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Tiopii:
The separatist were backed by Russia, Russia don't even deny anymore, most of the separatists involved were also Russian veterans, and where did you think they got weapons from?? They had heavy equipments too. Ukraine wasn't prepared to battle Russia, not the Donbas separatists at that point.

Do you think civilians would go against the military and win?

Most of the training Ukraine got, they got in during this Russia vs Ukraine war.

Yes, they were supported by Russia but it was more or less the determination of the people to defend their land. They didn't have helicopters or fighter jets or ships. Ukraine had all of that plus a very large military complex producing all they needed. Yet, they couldn't overthrow an army of less than 28k people that were mostly not even professional soldiers. Did you read about Givi? He was one of the main commanders of the donbass. He was smallish in stature, had previously applied to join the Ukrainian army and was rejected based on his frame. When the battle for donbass began, he planned and led most of the operations that helped them to push Ukraine out of the donbass towns and cities. Givi couldn't be defeated in battle. He was later assassinated by the Ukrainian army in his office with the help of a parcel bomb or a missile strike to the building(i can't really remember that part of the story).

Tiopii:
They don't have the strongest, they have the highest number of combat active troops at the moment, not top 10 strongest in Europe.

They barely were trained with NATO up to 6 months, others nations has been in NATO and training with the weapon for years. They have NATO weapons not the experience or expertise.

No. You don't know the history. They have been trained and armed by NATO since 2014/15. They have been preparing for this conflict for a long time.

Tiopii:
How Ukraine the poorest country in Europe have the strongest army?

Before the invasion, Ukraine only used Russia/Soviet weapons, and only started getting NATO weapons after the recaptured Kherson and Kharkiv. You don't need to lie. Poland is by far stronger than Ukraine in all indices..

How would Ukraine be stronger than Germany? are you a clown?

Ukraine had the largest army in Europe in terms of manpower. Yes the Germans and the French had more technology but in terms of ground troops, they had the strongest military trained according to their so called NATO standard.

Minsk24:
Guy you are a big brainwash fellow,
Russia rolled tru and annexed Crimea because the Ukraine military was so weak...
The civil war in the donbass would have been successful if not that NATO started sending weapons to Ukraine..

When an idiot starts talking, it's always obvious. It's you who is the brainwashed fellow here. What was the size of the donbass militia? How many of them were professional soldiers compared to the entire army of Ukraine? Ukraine hard active military personnel of over 200k as at 2018. That's excluding the reserves of more than 500-700k. The donbass militia made up of regular everyday people were less than 28k. Ukraine produces ammunition, jets, helicopters, drones, ships and almost all military equipment. Yet they were held by a not professional army of less than 28k people and you are talking about what again? I don't know how you guys manage to convince yourselves that you make sense when you talk on this site. Yes NATO came in and trained the Ukrainian army but the training and arming wasn't for the fight against the donbass militia, but to use them to fight Russia which is currently happening now. Know the difference between the things you say.

Emmyxclusive:
Haba, Ukraine was the strongest and largest military in Europe? What happened to France the European military super power?

I'm talking as regards to manpower.

Emmyxclusive:
fingers crossed, I like constructive argument.by the way militarily, Poland is strongerthan Ukraine.And I seriously doubt Putin want anything do with NATO. I have watched slot of his speeches

You guys lack adequate information. Before the start of the war, Ukraine was the strongest and largest military in Europe, trained according to NATO standard. Not even Germany, would have dared get into a war with Ukraine, not to talk of Poland. As at today, Ukraine admits to losses of personnel in the range of over 350k but independent sources are saying it stands at over 700k and if you consider the no of mobilization they have carried out, and how they hunt for young men to forcefully conscript into the army, you will see some truth in that. They are currently mobilizing females, old people and disabled people to the army.

Yes of course. If buhari couldn't make me a poor man, it's not tinubu that would make me one. If dem like, make dem sell am 1k, I go still get money buy am, on fuel.

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