Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by Chuksiesmom: 1:58pm On Dec 24, 2021 |
Congrats.....What a christmas present. Lol Perseverer: PPR alert, guys!
September 4th applicant.
I got PPR this morning. I'm so happy.
Docs submitted
SOP Land ownership documents (Gift deed) Flat ownership documents (Gift deed) Personal bank statement (MBS) Sponsors' bank statement (MBS) Acceptance letter Tuition fee receipt Enrolment letter Sponsors' affidavits of support IELTS
Applied on September 4, and got decision on December 24.
I just concluded Fall semester online.
Glory be to God!
May God favour you too.
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Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by Chuksiesmom: 5:12pm On Dec 23, 2021 |
Congrats Adwoa816. More wins for all those waiting for PPRs....
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Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by Chuksiesmom: 7:59am On Dec 20, 2021 |
Congratulations. I tap into this blessing. blueyuchay: PPR Alert!!!!!!
October 11th Applicant. Biometrics done October 20th Upfront Medicals done October 18th and updated To pass October 25th. Eligibility started Nov 24 Correspondence letter and PPR December 18th
First time Applicant
Docs submitted Letter of Admission All IMM forms
Financial proof merged together was: My contract of employment Work ID My 6months payslips My first semester tuition receipt My dom account bank statement with just $2000 dollars paid in like 2 days before submitting application. My car papers ( I gave a value for my car in my SOP) My Sponsor’s 6 months bank statement (Mother in law) with 8 million naira closing balance. She transferred 5 million that day of submission from her savings account to her current account which I used. I did not explain that lump sum in my SOP. Sponsor’s landed property docs valued at 14million Sponsor’s employment letter and promotion letter Sponsor’s expired intl passport showing US visa Sponsorship letter Affidavit of Sponsorship Marriage Cert Spouse’s birth cert Pictures of Sponsor and me and family Spouse’s employment letter Spouse’s CAC docs
Client information Table of Content SOP Marriage cert Daughter birth cert First degree cert WES transcript Original transcript WAEC cert More pictures Covid 19 vaccine card with one dose of vaccine
Webforms Upfront medical Updated Covid 19 vaccine card with the final dose updated and screenshot of the my vaccine e-cert on NPHDA website Clearer statement of account of sponsor (I noticed the initial one I sent was not so clear so I resent it weeks later. A post I saw here made me resend) I think it was just after resending that my eligibility started.
I mean it when I say na God do am for me. He go do am for you too. Have faith.
Thank you to everyone that posted their application story here which really helped me because I did the application myself even though I already paid an agent.
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Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by Chuksiesmom: 7:56am On Dec 20, 2021 |
It will end in praise my sis. Which university are you attending. Adwoa816: Good evening my good people. After my study permit was granted,I made an application for my 6 year old son whiles in Ghana. I want to share the documents I submitted and the current status of his study permit application. Perhaps it might be useful for others in a similar situation Documents IMM1294e(study permit forms) Passport details My admission letter , trv page, passport biodata page My sponsorship letter Husby bank statement,4 months payslips My bank statement, 4months payslip Son's terminal report Consent letter from husby Son's birth certificate IMM 5257 IMM 5645 Husby passport biodata page,marriage certificate
Timeline: Submitted-July 18,2021 Request letter( To submit another consent letter from husby and another ID)-October 28th,2021 Requested documents submitted -November 9th,2021 Medical Request-November 13th,2021 Medical done-November 24th,2021 Medicals Updated-December 2nd,2021
Still praying for PPR |
Travel / Re: Living In Saskatchewan, Canada by Chuksiesmom: 11:20pm On Dec 08, 2021 |
Hello family. Hope the weather is treating everyone well. For those living in Regina, Saskatchewan, please advise me on the best community for a family to settle in. Having low crime rates and good elementary and high schools.
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Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by Chuksiesmom: 11:17pm On Dec 08, 2021 |
Hello family. Hope the weather is treating everyone well. For those living in Regina, Saskatchewan, please advise me on the best community for a family to settle in. Having low crime rates and good elementary and high schools.
Thank you |
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by Chuksiesmom: 9:42am On Nov 12, 2021 |
Congrats..... nairagrounds: My good people of this platform, God, has done it oooooooo: PPR has landed.
Both emails came in at 6:35 and 6:38 AM, respectively. I never knew it could be that early.
WHAT GOD CANNOT DO DOESN'T EXIST.
I'll return to share my experience as I am still very much overwhelmed with Joy right now. |
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by Chuksiesmom: 8:07pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
My spouse is. ik123: Please Who is going to University of Regina for fall 2022 term, kindly send me a pm |
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by Chuksiesmom: 11:02pm On Nov 03, 2021 |
Congrats to you and your family. Im so happy to read about lots of pprs for today. May God grant you favour in Canada. Thanks for all your contributions on this platform. God is good..... viviangogos: The lord has visited me and my household with the good news of study permit approval. Join me to thank the Lord of Lords, the King of Kings, for what he has done for me, to HIM we give all the glory.
PS: it’s a long read…
APPLICATION TIMELINE
FIRST APPLICATION
School LOA received- 21st April 2021
Confirmation of online submission – 23rd April, 2021
Upfront Medicals– 21st April, 2021
Biometrics: 26th April, 2021
Medical Passed: 21st May, 2021
DELAY- June 17th 2021.
GCMS Notes requested: 23rd June 2021
GCMS Notes Received: 27th July 2021
SECOND APPLICATION: Submitted – 4th August, 2021
Medical Request: 30th September, 2021
BVL and PPR – November 3rd, 2021.
DOCUMENTS SUBMITTED:
PROOF OF FINANCIAL MEANS SECTION:
Ticket MybankStatement Naira Account
Ticket Mybankstatement USD Bank
One year Salary Payslips
Fidelity Net Benefits SOA (Stock)
Pension statement of account
Tax Clearance Certificates
Tuition Deposits receipts- Paid 10K CAD
CLIENT INFORMATION SECTION:
Letter of Explanation to address my initial refusal grounds – 2 pages
Detailed statement of purpose/ study plan- 3 pages
EMPLOYMENT DOCUMENTS
Employer confirmation of employment/job roles
Employment offer letter and offer confirmation
Promotion letters and focal point
Training certificates (The unsigned certificates are online trainings and printed from my company login portal)
QUALIFICATION
Neco Certificate (Post-Secondary)
Degree Certificate and Transcript
WES transcript evaluation report ( I used this to counter initial refusal point that claimed I had a higher degree than proposed program)
Curriculum Vitae
IELTS Result – General
RECOMMENDATIONS
Reference Letter from prospective employer
FAMILY INFORMATION
Birth attestation from National Population Commission
Consent letter from Spouse
Spouse International Passport / travel history
Marriage Certificate
Change of name documents
My children birth certificates
Family Picture
OTHERS
Email trail for intent declaration for US Baby Delivery
US delivery receipts
REFUSAL GROUND:
The generic reason was Purpose of visit.
The GCMS note buttressed it:
1) Applicant has a higher degree than proposed study in Canada.
2) Proposed study in Canada does not relate to Career and previous study.
Note my proposed study is PGC in Project Management.
I did a detailed LOE to address the note.
For 1) I have a Bsc in Geology and going for PGC hence my proposed study is definitely higher. That was an error on their part. I submitted my Wes evaluation report which I did for EE just to show what my current level of degree is.
2) I studied Geology and I am a Well completions Engr. I explained how my course of study was a pre requisite to gain employment as a trainee engineer in my firm. worked for some years and transitioned from core technical roles to business development and management of projects in my department. I extensively explained why I needed the study to progress further in my career since I already have on the job trainings in my career, hence imperative to back up my skills with the right certifications. I provided my promotion letters to buttress that and also submitted a confirmation of employment letter from my organization (on company letter head paper signed by the HR) that outlined all my job roles from joining the company at my different designations, this letter also showed my annual salary.
Then I backed it up with fervent prayers, fasting, seed sowing, kingdom evangelism, midnight prayers and praises to God. My major bible verses were Obadiah 1: 17, Mark 11:23, Zechariah 4: 7.
That is pretty much the little I did and God did the greatest and perfected this imperfect application to success.
Note:
After the refusal on the 17th of June, my spouse and I decided to go ahead and activate our plan B which is the UK. I immediately started my application for Msc Project management. I got admissions and decided to go with one of the schools, paid the tuition deposit, family went for TB test and it was on the day I was picking up my TB test certificates that I received my GCMS notes. I immediately told my husband that I will have to re-apply to Canada since the VO concerns did not hold water and maybe they did not review the employment documents I submitted. It was not easy to convince him but ....
Do not give up on this journey. The wait can be daunting but you have to be steadfast. While preparing for application submission, it’s important to plan the POF part right in time, (it is a major refusal grounds), read / research as much as possible.
Thanks to everyone that is contributing to our numerous questions here. I must say I learnt so much from this platform and that was a major boost for my DIY. If you can do it yourself, please go for it but if you do not have the confidence or maybe do not have all the time, please use a licensed agent and possibly a guru in this field.
I wish everyone all the best on this journey. God will perfect it for everyone awaiting PPR in Jesus name, Amen.
You are next in line for this awesome testimony.
Unto the next!!!
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Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by Chuksiesmom: 10:07am On Oct 29, 2021 |
Congrats......May Canada favour you. Freshestc: CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!
My HEBREWS 11:1 GOD has come through! I testified that this month, my Hallelujah will be louuuuuuuuuuuuuuuddddddd! The wait has been longggggggggg, but on Saturday, the Lord reminded me to hold onto HEBREWS 11:1 and to be anxious for nothing ‘cos my approval is coming this week. I started classes in September and Oluwaaaa, it’s been difficult! Omoooo, Master’s no easy o!!!!
I am in my late 30s with previous travel history, completed undergrad in the UK almost 18 years ago, education gap is like 12 years, half of my siblings are abroad. As a first time applicant, I used an awesome agent, but looking back at my SOP and the wealth of information you all freely give on here, it certainly wasn’t perfect but my EVER FAITHFUL GOD perfected it all!!!!! Thank you to every single one of you that selflessly shares credible information on here and to those who are simply silently reading, may God arm you with the wealth of knowledge that will enable you giveback and help others. The ideas I was blessed with from this platform: completing upfront medicals, using webform, how to bombard IRCC with emails to appeal to them and info from landing gists. Ohhhh, lest I forget, GCMS notes, too - never applied sha.
My wait was for three months, and I know there are scores of applicants whose application has been pending for even a year - my charge to you (irrespective of your religion) is to meditate on HEBREWS 11. I promise you, even when I was a Muslim, this scripture ALWAYS comes through for me.
Who am I, o Lord that you are mindful of meeeeeeee ??
I am aware of the tradition of posting timelines, so I won’t violate it. Allow me break the good news to my family first and do my thanksgiving azonto. I will locate every document I submitted and share. See ehnnnnnn, I have been crying tears of joy and shaking like a leaf! What God cannot do does not exist!!! Tell your neighbors!!!!
Best breakfast ever!!!!!!!
British Columbia, here I come!!!
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Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by Chuksiesmom: 5:59pm On Oct 25, 2021 |
Hello. A good number of schools use Waec as their benchmark in giving an admission. The waec year should not be a problem once the university will be able to verify the results. For the study gap, you just have to give a good reason or justification for the gap and attach a cv if possible. All the best. ModelLook: Hello everyone. How possible is it for someone to get Bachelors Degree Admission in Canada?
What steps should the person take?
The person has good WAEC Results (2009).
The person has not worked in any company. The person has been doing business coupled with being Self Employed all this while.
Will it be possible for the person to do this?
What are the basic requirements? Thanks. |
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by Chuksiesmom: 12:10pm On Oct 23, 2021 |
Amen. Wishing you same. Keep us posted on accomodation in Regina and the school your children will be attending. May Canada favour you and your family. Residentourist: Glad to know youfound some helpful information in the pile of "rubbish" wishing you unprecedented favor in your processing and of course looking forward to seeing you here next year.
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Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by Chuksiesmom: 11:48pm On Oct 22, 2021 |
Hello there. Kindly make time and go thru all the pages. There are lots of information on this platform which can guide you to put in a good application. If after reading you have specific questions, the gurus here will gladly assist. Fchi: Please I will love to see a full breakdown of all the documents required to process my student visa. I just got admission to Seneca college. So I really want to know what the visa process entails so I don’t make mistakes |
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by Chuksiesmom: 11:42pm On Oct 22, 2021 |
Thanks. Mine is 8yrs. Your landing gist has been helpful. Husby will be attending U of R next fall. Hope to meet up once we get thru. Residentourist: They are 9 and 7 years old respectively.
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Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by Chuksiesmom: 11:37pm On Oct 22, 2021 |
Thank God for travelling mercies. How old are your kids? I have always wondered how US passport holders get a study permit at the POE. Husby has admission to U of R for fall 2022. Hope to meet up with you in the near future. Residentourist: Landing gist 1 Travelled on Wednesday 20th October, 2021 to Regina via Lufthansa airline Flight was slated for 10:55pm. Arrived airport at 6:30pm in time for check in. My family was let in without any fuss ( they probably assumed we were all travelling together)
We were told the scanning machine at the entrance wasn't working so they had to check the bag manually. I dropped small change (please don't judge me. I will repent � it took days to pack the bags and I couldn't imagine having to rearrange it)
Got to the queue and the lady to check our documents was confused on how I was travelling with my 2 kids as they don't have a visa. I tried explaining to her that US citizens do not require one. She was being unreasonable but luckily her supervisor came and sorted things out. Took their passports and copies of birth certificates as well as the ArriveCAN receipt which included their details to go make some "confirmations" He came back and gave the all clear. Covid result was checked. I printed out the Lagos State results but was told the acceptable one is the one issued by the lab. I had downloaded the soft copies of that and the officer was gracious enough to scan it from my phone.I cellowrapped our bags at 1k each. We got our boarding passes and I hung out with my family for a while before proceeding to immigration clearance and all.
Flight was on time. (I don't know who told Lufthansa I am a vegetarian �) They served vegetarian pasta. It was quite tasty and my kids who are picky eaters enjoyed it. The flight wasn't fully booked. We were in the middle aisle that seats 4 but luckily no one was assigned the 4th seat.
We arrived Frankfurt and went through immigration. Not much activity here other than waiting for 6hours plus for our connecting flight. Visited McDonald's with my little humans. My Naira Mastercard from Gtbank didn't disappoint. ����
Flight to Toronto was next. Pleasant (we got a window seat yay!!!) Arrived at Toronto and attempted to do the self scanning and filling before proceeding to the officer at the qiosk but I kept getting an error message (the camera refused to snap my black face) I proceeded to the officer in the kiosk. He was very polite, ( everyone who attended to us from flight attendants, immigration officers etc were very polite and helpful)I was directed to another room where we stayed on an incredibly long queue. When it got to our turn, the officer collected my passport and those of my kids, asked for my admission letter and also asked if I had my spouse's consent to have the kids stay with me for the entire duration of my studies. I answered in the affirmative and showed him a consent letter my husband had written plus copies of their birth certificates and his passport data page. We were asked to seat and shortly after called forward to pick up my permit and visitor records for my kids. He said the visitor's record makes it possible for them to attend school. Next I had to pass the maze for those who have items to declare (foodstuff) I told them my bags would be going directly to Regina (that was what I was told in Lagos) the yellow sheet was collected from me. When I got to the baggage claim area it was confirmed the bags had been checked in directly. We proceeded to the gate for our connecting flight to Regina via Air Canada. The flight was on time. The plane was the smallest I have ever been on (so narrow) with two seats on each side hand, hand luggage couldn't fit into overhead locker so I put it underneath the chairs in front. Flight wasn't full and the seat beside me was empty so we got 2 window seats. Arrived Regina safely at 10:04pm Regina Time which is 5:04am Naija time and since our flight was so late our bags were part of the last in the baggage claim area. The cello wrap I put on them were still intact and no one bothered me. Got a trolley (at no cost) to push them. My friend picked us up from the airport. It was cold!!!
To be continued...
I pray for all those who are hopeful...your expectations will not be cut short I Jesus name. AMEN!!!
A big thank you to my amazing ladies @lianna2020 abi na @ lianna2020 and @EverGrateful. These ladies can ginger for Africa. God bless you immensely!!!
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Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by Chuksiesmom: 1:53pm On Oct 22, 2021 |
Congrats to you and your family. It is only God who can do this. I tap into this blessing. Leyemoshood:
First of all, i give glory to almighty God for the salvation of my soul and i thank only him for the approval of this application for my family and I at this very first attempt.
School Admission - 10th June 2020 Family's Upfront Medical - 28th June 2020 Application submitted - 30th August 2020 Biometrics for me - 31st August 2020 Wife's Biometrics - 2nd September 2020 Medical Passed - 8th September 2020 BVL & PPR all of us - 22nd October 2020
PS: I only logged in to my portal 2/3 times, i always tell my wife that if there's an important update, IRCC would message ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png)
Documents submitted:
Main applicant (Myself): All ircc forms Passport photograph Data page with Dubai Visa page IELTS Police clearance certificate Bsc Certificate only Detailed SOP - 5 pages CAC Documents NYSC Certificate Reference Letter from my former place of work Reference Letter from my NYSC PPA boss All Employment letters and promotion letters Car ownership doc Tenancy agreement letter
Wife's document:
Dubai Visa Page IELTS certificate Her CAC documents Police Clearance Certificate (PCC) I omitted submitting either her IELTS or PCC, it was after i submitted i remembered i didnt upload 1 of them.
Proof of marriage: Marriage certificate Family pictures Wedding pictures Wedding Anniversary pictures Baby's 1 year birthday pictures Family Vacation pictures in Dubai
Daughter's Documents
International Passport Birth Certificate
Proof of funds
My business account with 30K CAD (MBS) Salary Account (Can't remember how much i had as of the time i submitted again - MBS) Piggy Vest Statement of Account: 1.650M Naira
Let me run a quick background here, i didnt even know we'll be applying to relocate to Canada till Monday June 7 this year, we have always wanted to move to Canada but the plan has been via Express Entry. Due to age constraint, we decided we should go via school and then we had the UK option too but the plan was to leave Nigeria by December 2022 at worst case scenario. Left for me, the process would probably start around June next year lol but my wife was much into the relocation plan. The funny thing is that i am "agent" and i worked with one of the leading agencies in Nigeria even heading Abuja's branch, students are always asking, bro when you go comot Naija, you wey dey help us, you no wan comot abi..or students asking have you been to all these countries before? lol me wey be say na only Dubai i don go, for some i say yes i don go (i lied), some i tell them the truth that i'm not ready yet.
Fast forward, i applied to school and admission came 2 days after. Deposit was made and we went for upfront medicals, did IELTS and Police Character. We gathered documents and finally submitted August 30, it is pertinent to state that this application was God's grace. I told my wife we should fast and pray every Tuesday till we get approval and our prayers points were specific:
1. God should perfect all the imperfections of the our application in the eyes of the Visa Officers 2. God should not allow our application be delayed for too long. 3. God should have mercy and compassion on our application. 4. I had a dream the 2nd week after i submitted the application that i was approved, so i started praying that God should make the dream a reality and let us get approval as a family.
My church has been about having testimonies in the month of October but 2 things happened that stood out for me. 1st, when i saw Jay316 approval last week Friday Oct 15, i noticed on his timeline that he submitted a week before us, immediately, i keyed into his testimony and approval that God should please let us have our PPR this week. In church this Sunday, Oct 17 we sang raise me up and tapped into Jehovah God raising my family to Canada. Pastor also said someone in the service would testify next week, I also tapped into it as I expect our Canada visa approval this new week in Jesus name. Then this morning around 7:30, NSSPD Pastor Jerry said someone will get the email they have been expecting in 1 hour time and good news before 6pm. Lo and behold, i got 2 emails from IRCC at exactly 8:10am, without checking who sent the mail, i started saying this is IRCC, this is IRCC and when i opend my mail it was IRCC oo, thats how i started dancing and praising God before opening my portal declaring that yes the word of God have to come pass that its going to be approval and when i logged in, i went straight to the bottom and i saw the golden messages CORRESPONDENCE LETTER & ORIGINAL PASSPORT REQUEST, while checking my own, the mail for my daughter came in and 2-3 minutes later, the mail for my wife dropped too. Na baba God do am ooooo, people help me should 3 powerful Hallelujah.
As someone who has been in the study abroad industry for a while, i can boldly say that i got lotta information from this travel thread, thanks to all the gurus that share important information. I didnt do anything anything special but God is his infinite mercy gave us the approval, he made an ordinary application extra ordinary. The only thing i would say to prospective applicants is to take their time to study the thread well and be detailed in their SOP/LOE.
Who did it guys? JESUS...Oh My God...Woowwwwwwwwwwwww What God cannot do does not exist!!!
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Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by Chuksiesmom: 11:40pm On Oct 14, 2021 |
The child is 8years now. Thanks SweetJJ:
How old is the child? I heard they can study with visitor's visa if they are below a certain age ( I think 13years, I can't remember exactly) |
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by Chuksiesmom: 8:22pm On Oct 14, 2021 |
Yes they have automatic entry. My worry is on how to get the study permit on arrival. Thanks TheGbemisola:
I think a US citizen has automatic entry into canada too. Not sure correct me if I’m wrong |
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by Chuksiesmom: 8:17pm On Oct 14, 2021 |
Thanks so much @viviangogos. Your response is so helpful. I will be waiting for other gurus to assist on how to get a study permit on arrival. U rock�♂️
quote author=viviangogos post=106737589]Hello Chuksies, I made an enquiry from someone that travelled to Canada sometime this year with her two kids who are American citizens as I have same situation. Please see the below questions from me and her answers inserted...I hope it helps answer yours..
Hello @XXXXX My inquiry is as regards travelling with your children. 1) Did you tick yes that they would accompany you in the family form during your SP application. Moniker- NOPE 2) If you ticked no, did you inform IRCC before your travel that you would be travelling with your kids that are US citizens? Moniker- YES BUT NEVER GOT A RESPONSE SO TOOK THE CHANCE AND WENT WITH THEM WITHOUT HASSLE 3) Did you do medicals for them since they would be spending the timeline you would be in Canada with you. Moniker- NOPE Thanks as I wait your feedback.
Note- Please also do let me know if you find any further info as regards this.
All the best
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Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by Chuksiesmom: 5:07pm On Oct 14, 2021 |
Congrats to all PPR recipients. It looks like my message went missing with all the PPR showers. Please help me address this Chuksiesmom: Hello NL family. I am new here and struggling to figure out how to create or reply to a message. Pardon me if my message isnt in line. I am prepping my documents to put in my application. The plan is to apply with my first 2 children and use the last 2 and my spouse as support for home ties. My 3rd child holds a US passport and i might consider going with him too if my permit is approved. Will it be a problem, if i indicate on the form that im not travelling with him but later end up doing that? How do we apply for a study permit at the POE for a US citizen. Gurus here, please come to my aid so I dont start my application with any mistakes. @makano @frankobn please assist. Thank you |
Travel / Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by Chuksiesmom: 11:40pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
Hello NL family. I am new here and struggling to figure out how to create or reply to a message. Pardon me if my message isnt in line. I am prepping my documents to put in my application. The plan is to apply with my first 2 children and use the last 2 and my spouse as support for home ties. My 3rd child holds a US passport and i might consider going with him too if my permit is approved. Will it be a problem, if i indicate on the form that im not travelling with him but later end up doing that? How do we apply for a study permit at the POE for a US citizen. Gurus here, please come to my aid so I dont start my application with any mistakes. @makano @frankobn please assist. Thank you |