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rhowly: You see the law only makes you an accuser. Because people believe paying tithe isn't right doesn't make them less givers. Their giving might embarrass you. I make it a point of duty to give more than tithe. So hold your horses we are brethren. At least I still think so

I second you bro.

Bidam: @ ALL, The kingdom of God is not about brighter English grammar,neither it is in talks, meat and drinks.

The Kingdom of God is about the way God does HIS THINGS.

If there where no laws to be obeyed,God would never have given Adam an instruction/law or command from the beginning.It simply goes against HIS NATURE and that was why the LAST ADAM(JESUS) was obedient by HIS death on the cross.

The LAWS/INSTRUCTIONS are even higher in the dispensation of GRACE since they flow from the HOLY Spirit resident in the hearts of believers.

Antinomians fail to see these things really,like i said earlier a christian blessed because he is reedemed can be oppressed by the devil. WHY?

Because he lacks knowledge in the WAYS OF THE SPIRIT.The HOLY SPIRIT DOES NOT GO CONTRARY TO THE WORD OF GOD FOR SCRIPTURES CANNOT BE BROKEN.

God's grace does not gives us license to be disobedient to His instructions,rather it empowers us to keep them because we LOVE HIM.

The new covenant made it more clearer that the Law/instructions/commands are NOT The 10 COMMANDMENTS neither are they the mosaic Laws. The Laws/instructions or commands defines our expected behaviour IN CHRIST and God's grace provides forgiveness when we don't live up to God's standard.

That is why when you give your life to Christ newly,you discover later that things tend to be DIFFICULT as you grow in the Faith.
God want you to know the WAY OF HIS SPIRIT which do not go contrary to HIS WORD.GOD'S WORD are HIS instructions.

I know of Christians who later backslided simply because they couldn't follow instructions and hold on to the end.Goshen teachings is one of those poisons that makes it look as if Christianity is everyday christmas as usual,no sacrifice,no sufferings because CHRIST has paid it all.You are in for a shocker folks.

Clearly those who think they can be part of God's people without obedience to His laws are deceived.

I think you are getting it wrong again. The new covenant has made the law easy, thanks to our Lord jesus christ. As a christian the law is very simple: Love (including Love of God and fellow man), second is Faith: have faith in your maker.
If you love your God it is obvious that you will not worship money, it is simple that you will not have other God than him.
If you love your fellow man it is clear that you will not do any thing to harm they including robbery and conversion of their wife and property.
If you have faith in your maker it is obvious that you don't not need material things to please him.
What I am trying to say is the law was a burden to the people of God and Jesus christ took that burden away from us. And that includes the tithe to individuals who now see them self as gods.

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Luke 11:37-48
English Standard Version (ESV)
Woes to the Pharisees and Lawyers

37 While Jesus[a] was speaking, a Pharisee asked him to dine with him, so he went in and reclined at table. 38 The Pharisee was astonished to see that he did not first wash before dinner. 39 And the Lord said to him, “Now you Pharisees cleanse the outside of the cup and of the dish, but inside you are full of greed and wickedness. 40 You fools! Did not he who made the outside make the inside also? 41 But give as alms those things that are within, and behold, everything is clean for you.

42 “But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and every herb, and neglect justice and the love of God. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others. 43 Woe to you Pharisees! For you love the best seat in the synagogues and greetings in the marketplaces. 44 Woe to you! For you are like unmarked graves, and people walk over them without knowing it.”

45 One of the lawyers answered him, “Teacher, in saying these things you insult us also.” 46 And he said, “Woe to you lawyers also! For you load people with burdens hard to bear, and you yourselves do not touch the burdens with one of your fingers. 47 Woe to you! For you build the tombs of the prophets whom your fathers killed. 48 So you are witnesses and you consent to the deeds of your fathers, for they killed them, and you build their tombs.

Was this asking for money or teaching that money is not faith?

I have gathered 41 verses in the bible that these greedy pastors use to extort money from the people of GOD. Having read them critically, it is now obvious that these verses was not referring to the current form of tithes pastors in nigeria collect. However, I have seen a systemic omissions that allow them to deceive their members. All they do is pick just a verse and use it to preach rather than looking at verses before them and after that will all their members to put it in context and get better understanding.

To avoid name calling and insults I will not be making any personal statments but I will post the exact bible verse to allow every body to read and decided for them self. I will bold the verse the is often referred to in such teachings.

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2 Corinthians 9:1-15
English Standard Version (ESV)

9 Now it is superfluous for me to write to you about the ministry for the saints, 2 for I know your readiness, of which I boast about you to the people of Macedonia, saying that Achaia has been ready since last year. And your zeal has stirred up most of them. 3 But I am sending[a] the brothers so that our boasting about you may not prove empty in this matter, so that you may be ready, as I said you would be. 4 Otherwise, if some Macedonians come with me and find that you are not ready, we would be humiliated—to say nothing of you—for being so confident. 5 So I thought it necessary to urge the brothers to go on ahead to you and arrange in advance for the gift[b] you have promised, so that it may be ready as a willing gift, not as an exaction.[c]

6 The point is this: whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows bountifully[d] will also reap bountifully. 7 Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that having all sufficiency[e] in all things at all times, you may abound in every good work. 9 As it is written,

“He has distributed freely, he has given to the poor;
    his righteousness endures forever.”
10 He who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will supply and multiply your seed for sowing and increase the harvest of your righteousness. 11 You will be enriched in every way to be generous in every way, which through us will produce thanksgiving to God. 12 For the ministry of this service is not only supplying the needs of the saints but is also overflowing in many thanksgivings to God. 13 By their approval of this service, they[f] will glorify God because of your submission that comes from your confession of the gospel of Christ, and the generosity of your contribution for them and for all others, 14 while they long for you and pray for you, because of the surpassing grace of God upon you. 15 Thanks be to God for his inexpressible gift!:

Was it referring to current form of tithe or was it referring to people of God helping each other?

@ Goshen360 you have done justice to this topic, it is now left for the people who has ear to hear. God will continually bless you and all his people that do not deviate from the gospel of truth.

Elliotwiz1: the levites where the said PASTORS and PROPHETS of old....that was when Jesus had not made the access to God open for everyone...in those days the pastors where the levites , now the pastors and ministers you see are the representatives or the SUBSTITUTES of the levites....dont get it twisted.

Are you not contradicting your self, you just said "jesus had made the access to God open, in other words we Christians are all pastors, the question then is why are we not giving to that poor member in the rather to a pastor that will use it to live luxurious life. Just thinking

Elliotwiz1: jesus christ did not pay tithe, yes because tithe is to be paid to someone who you consider a spiritual father and no one was about Jesus when he was on earth, hence no need to pay tithe.

Are sure of what you are saying, does it mean that john the baptist, whom Jesus went to for baptism was higher than him. I don't think that is the case

Candour: you'll be shocked you just uttered an untrue statement.

Not all Churches in Nigeria collect tithes

He did not say any lie, or the church's preach money and wealth with tithe on top of it

bomsilaga: I appreciate this thread cos my personal testimony about tithing is one of God's grace and love. as a young Christian, I was taught all the benefits of tithing and as it's put; I tithed faithfully.
my church later introduced serious prayers for tithe payers and that was my turning point. I went back to God for direction and was confident that God won't just destroy me for stopping tithing.

God's goodness ever since I stopped cannot be measured as I have moved from seeking daily bread to a provider of daily bread
tithing is no longer necessary just have a considerate heart and do good to all men.
thanks
haters will always hate and the blindness will only increase.

I can hear the holyspirit speaking through you. Remain blessed

Those of us that are bend to justifying the greed of their pastors and them self have rather decided to make reference to people who in reality are not christians. The new era, christianity and the new convenat all started after the death of Jesus christ, how they make reference to people and events that occurred years before the coming of Jesus christ as a justification for tithe and offerings in today's christianity is still alien to me.

The perfect lamb of God (John 1:29) "Behold! The lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world".
In the old testament (leviticus4 and 5, Exodus 12) accounted different offerings practiced by the people of God for the atonement of sins and God's blessing. However, the old testament has a lot of accounts that points to the works and coming of Jesus christ that will mark a new beginning.
Jesus christ is the perfect sacrificial offering, he suffered as a sign of his full obedience to the will of God. Why then should we decide to stick to the past and our greed even when he has made a new and easy path for us to follow.

It is through his death on the cross of God's perfect sacrifice for sin and His resurrection three days later that we can now have eternal life if we believe in Him. The fact that God himself has provided the offering (Jesus christ the lamb of God ) is part of the glorious good news of the gospel that is so clearly declared in 1 peter 1:18:21 there is no need to dwell in the past and in the old when Jesus has made for us a better today and feature.
"for you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers, but with the precious blood of christ, a lamb without blemish or defect......continued.

Tithe and offering has no place in the life of a christian that believes and have faith in the death Jesus christ

baiem: Pro & anti Tithe: Please Did Jesus Christ, Peter & other Apostles, Paul and early Christians pay tithe?

No they did not

[quote author=rezzy]Praise the Lord, my testimony goes like this, You anti tithe Christians have not been able to confuse me. I still pay my tithe. Praise Master Jesus. Halleluyah[/]
Just hope, only hoping we can learn and say no to this sinful acts called tithe and offering
The greedy pastors and their corhot have created a centerpiece of worship that violated Jesus Christ as much as possible, while deceiving the people into thinking that they were honoring Him.  They have set up a service that could be repeated daily that would "strike" Jesus again and again, putting Him back on that cross daily.  You see, the Apostle Paul clearly told us that the Messiah was to be only struck once, and that the reason Moses got into such trouble with God was that he struck the rock the second time, rather than speaking to it the second time.  Jesus was that Rock [1 Corinthians 10:4], and so when Moses struck the rock the second time to get water, he not only disobeyed God who told him to speak to the rock, he struck Messiah twice. 
 
All the way through the Book to the Hebrews, the author speaks of the "once and for all" sacrifice of Jesus Christ.  Jesus died only once on the cross, and then went to the right hand of the Father.  We see that the sacrifice was so excellent and so accepted by the Father, that it need never be repeated again. In fact, we are prohibited from ever repeating it again. The writer to the Hebrews boldly states, "... we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all." [10:10]

Therefore, these greedy pastors and church ministers wanted to violate God's mandate the most severely, they created a ceremony that sacrificed Jesus Christ again and again and again, that could be repeated daily all over the world, all the while deceiving the people into thinking they were glorifying Jesus Christ.  Of course, I am speaking of the tithes, the offerings, first fruit offering and etc, which does exactly this.

Then, if that were not enough damage done to the finished, once-for-all sacrifice on the cross, They, have preached the gospel of money, tithe, offering as condition for God's blessing that would keep Jesus on the cross permanently.  This preaching of higher offering for higher blessing will make the people continue thinking of buying blessing with money,hence, constantly keeping Jesus Christ on the Cross where they wanted Him to be, not at the Father's Right Hand in Glory...

They have just prevented Salvation from being possible , for anyone who practiced the tithe for blessing and offering for sin atonement. How is this impossible, you ask?  Listen to the writer to the Hebrews, speaking under the authority of the Holy Spirit. 

"If they then deviate from the faith ... it is impossible to bring them back to repentance ... as long as they nail up on the cross the Son of God afresh ... and are holding Him up to contempt and shame and public disgrace." [Hebrews 6:6, Parallel Bible, KJV/Amplified Bible Commentary]..

Holding Jesus Christ continuously up to contempt and public disgrace is exactly what the tithe and offerings accomplishes.  In fact, their members are encouraged to pay price for the blessing and sin daily. 

They have attacked the all-perfect sacrifice for sins which Jesus' death accomplished.  Even though Jesus' last words on the cross were, "It is finished" [a Greek commercial word, "teleo" which means "Paid in Full"]. They lie that, while Jesus' sacrifice opened the way for mankind to ultimately reach Heaven, it did not remove all the stain of man's sin.  Men and women must remove as much of this sin stain as possible throughout their lives by paying tithe, giving offering and even paying more money.  Thus, they made Salvation in the Church a matter of Faith plus tithe and offerings, a matter against which the Apostle Paul struggled mightily in the early Christian Church.  As Paul said succinctly, "For it is by Grace ye are saved, not by works ..." [Ephesians 2:8].

They are all anti-Christ's leading people to sin. Those who has ear should hear tithe and offering are not, I repeat are not eternal principles.

Continued from my last comment. Just hope, only hoping we can learn and say no to this sinful acts called tithe and offering
The greedy pastors and their corhot have created a centerpiece of worship that violated Jesus Christ as much as possible, while deceiving the people into thinking that they were honoring Him.  They have set up a service that could be repeated daily that would "strike" Jesus again and again, putting Him back on that cross daily.  You see, the Apostle Paul clearly told us that the Messiah was to be only struck once, and that the reason Moses got into such trouble with God was that he struck the rock the second time, rather than speaking to it the second time.  Jesus was that Rock [1 Corinthians 10:4], and so when Moses struck the rock the second time to get water, he not only disobeyed God who told him to speak to the rock, he struck Messiah twice. 
 
All the way through the Book to the Hebrews, the author speaks of the "once and for all" sacrifice of Jesus Christ.  Jesus died only once on the cross, and then went to the right hand of the Father.  We see that the sacrifice was so excellent and so accepted by the Father, that it need never be repeated again. In fact, we are prohibited from ever repeating it again. The writer to the Hebrews boldly states, "... we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all." [10:10]

Therefore, these greedy pastors and church ministers wanted to violate God's mandate the most severely, they created a ceremony that sacrificed Jesus Christ again and again and again, that could be repeated daily all over the world, all the while deceiving the people into thinking they were glorifying Jesus Christ.  Of course, I am speaking of the tithes, the offerings, first fruit offering and etc, which does exactly this.

Then, if that were not enough damage done to the finished, once-for-all sacrifice on the cross, They, have preached the gospel of money, tithe, offering as condition for God's blessing that would keep Jesus on the cross permanently.  This preaching of higher offering for higher blessing will make the people continue thinking of buying blessing with money,hence, constantly keeping Jesus Christ on the Cross where they wanted Him to be, not at the Father's Right Hand in Glory...

They have just prevented Salvation from being possible , for anyone who practiced the tithe for blessing and offering for sin atonement. How is this impossible, you ask?  Listen to the writer to the Hebrews, speaking under the authority of the Holy Spirit. 

"If they then deviate from the faith ... it is impossible to bring them back to repentance ... as long as they nail up on the cross the Son of God afresh ... and are holding Him up to contempt and shame and public disgrace." [Hebrews 6:6, Parallel Bible, KJV/Amplified Bible Commentary]..

Holding Jesus Christ continuously up to contempt and public disgrace is exactly what the tithe and offerings accomplishes.  In fact, their members are encouraged to pay price for the blessing and sin daily. 

They have attacked the all-perfect sacrifice for sins which Jesus' death accomplished.  Even though Jesus' last words on the cross were, "It is finished" [a Greek commercial word, "teleo" which means "Paid in Full"]. They lie that, while Jesus' sacrifice opened the way for mankind to ultimately reach Heaven, it did not remove all the stain of man's sin.  Men and women must remove as much of this sin stain as possible throughout their lives by paying tithe, giving offering and even paying more money.  Thus, they made Salvation in the Church a matter of Faith plus tithe and offerings, a matter against which the Apostle Paul struggled mightily in the early Christian Church.  As Paul said succinctly, "For it is by Grace ye are saved, not by works ..." [Ephesians 2:8].

They all anti-Christ's leading people to sin. Those who has earshould hear tithe and offering are not, I repeat are not eternal principles.

The thread was suppose to look at tithe as an eternal principle in the life's of today christian, but those of us that are bend to justifying the greed of their pastors and them self have rather decided to make reference to people who in reality are not christians. The new era, christianity and the new convenat all started after the death of Jesus christ, how they make reference to people and events that occurred years before the coming of Jesus christ as a justification for tithe and offerings in today's christianity is still alien to me.

The perfect lamb of God (John 1:29) "Behold! The lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world".
In the old testament (leviticus4 and 5, Exodus 12) accounted different offerings practiced by the people of God for the atonement of sins and God's blessing. However, the old testament has a lot of accounts that points to the works and coming of Jesus christ that will mark a new beginning.
Jesus christ is the perfect sacrificial offering, he suffered as a sign of his full obedience to the will of God. Why then should we decide to stick to the past and our greed even when he has made a new and easy path for us to follow.

It is through his death on the cross of God's perfect sacrifice for sin and His resurrection three days later that we can now have eternal life if we believe in Him. The fact that God himself has provided the offering (Jesus christ the lamb of God ) is part of the glorious good news of the gospel that is so clearly declared in 1 peter 1:18:21 there is no need to dwell in the past and in the old when Jesus has made for us a better today and feature.
"for you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers, but with the precious blood of christ, a lamb without blemish or defect......continued.

Tithe and offering is not an eternal principle, that's the bottom line.

My final samon, don't worry I will not ask you for tithe.
not all that call me master will enter the kingdom and not all who call them selfess prophet of GOD do so with divine power of GOD.
Some times i wonder where the powers and on who's authority some of these Nigerian pastors do there work of GOD.
Not only did they forget how to teach the way of Jesus christ to the people of God, they have also made laws for them selfless against the will of God, they have also adapted foreign gods and things that the Lord our God has set his people free from in the new convenat, the convenat we made with the the lamb of God, Jesus christ.
Giving condition for God's blessing to his people,(money and name of church). No wonder they all own 2-4 private jets. the last time i checked my bible Jesus christ has made us all priests and sons of God most high, hence we can not be giving tithes to any body because we are priests ourselves, rather show love to your fellow man.
Beloved remember you have the right to question you leader in any christian gathering else you be lead to everlasting agony by a so called man of GOD, people think, read the bible your self don't wait for the super man the pastor to read and explain for you. cry cry cry cry I cry for christianity in Nigeria. Imagine what a pastors could saying tithe (money) is eternal principle, how did we get so bad, taking the name of God for a laugh stock, money is unclean and has no place in the house of GOD and God asks for noting from his priests not a single penny Jesus christ has paid the price all of it, I mean all of it. Next time you pastor tries to weigh your blessing with the amount of money you gave, say unto him I am a christian and Jesus our master has paid the price, ask the pastor if he is a Christian or is there something he is not telling the church members.
My you be blessed for accepting Jesus as your personal seviour because he has paid the price all of it. Amen.
If you still tithe it is obvious that you have not accepted Jesus christ, he paid the price for every bodies sins,blessings and happiness.

christemmbassey: ah, Bidam's own is worst o, he is into prophetic(fortune telling/soccery) their own, na pay b4 service. God v mercy!

I thouth as much from his tone on this thread

This thread is getting more interesting, I hope all the pastors on the thread do not runaway

idnoble135: ^
Why not then single out the church rather than lashing out on other churches?

I did not do that because I have narrated my experiences to other people of different church's and a very significant percentage of them agrees and has their own story, while the rest agrees too though with no personal experience to back it up. The truth is a very alarming percentage of religious groups do it every sunday, it just comes in different tones and organization to allow a proper brain wash of their members.

idnoble135: Whatever you say bro. But one thing, rather than staying in a corner of the internet, why not pursue it big if you are convinced that's God's desire for you.
But all i've posted is what i see from the whole picture.

Thanks brother. The truths I am a medical scientists and have no intentions in religious issue. However, it makes me cry how people suffer and even not provide basic education to their children back in Nigeria just because the pastors told them to give all they have in the name of tithe.

Also about your early comment about tithe preaching every day in church, I want to tell you that I went to winners chapel here in manchester and for a good two months the preaching was about giving money, the only different thing was different Nigerian pastors and different tones. However if they stopped when I stopped going after the two months I do not know. Before I moved to England I have also experienced sure in church's in rivers state. So I will say they do preach about money every Sundays, maybe not in all churches.

idnoble135: I'm even tired of this argument. The way we are so caught up in this is alarming. How come this is all where some folks energy is channelled to? There are other pressing issues of similar importance, and these are not being addressed. Like speaking in tongues, walking in purity in a sin dominated world, the acceptance of the five fold ministries, strategic evangelism etc.
What seems to pain some folks is that some "MOG" are rich. The candid truth is most of them do not get it via tithes. You go and do your research. Most of them get it through personal giving which are tokens from those who feel they have been so blessed by the minister.
We can preach tithe and it stops but that will not stop the people from giving to ministers who have been a tremendous blessing to them.
That's just the bare truth. I am in a dilemna. I meet a minister who by divine help provides me with a guidance. I follow it and blessings pour in. It's only natural for me to give the Lord out of it and give the minister PERSONALLY.
Other highly sensitive issues abound that also seek our attention. Let's beware lest we chase mice while lions devour the land.
Shalom.

I am sure if you open that thread and put the link here many will discuss about it. I will also say I agree with in the above comment

If all the funds these religious groups are taking from people in the name of tithe are used to help people, I wonder, I just wonder how many people will have food on their table, how many children will go to school, how many children will be served from early death. I just hope people will understand that our money are better of providing for care to our neighbors than buy private jets and living luxurious life by pastor, just if only we understand.

I have a felling some of the posters in this thread are pastors, just reading their comments makes me wonder how much they are willing to do in other to extort money from the helpless poor. May GOD have mercy on us all.

I have a felling some of the posters in this thread are pastors, just reading their comments makes me wonder how they are willing to do in other to extort money from the helpless poor. May GOD have mercy on us all.

Bidam: And where is it written in your bible that God's tithe is a sin You see it is this kind of extreme hatred for God i am talking about.You and the other poster are actually guilty of adding to God's word

I did not add anything to God's word (it is in the bible that no unclean thing can be in his presence, I now ask is money clean). It is in the bible that only him can decide, i now ask how come the pastors are telling their members that the Higher the tithe the Higher the blessing.

If unclean/earthly materials can not be in his presence, how come bringing money into his house not a sin, how come using his house as business venture not a sin, how come all the samon every other Sundays about paying tax in the name of tithe not a sin.

@ theoctopus you have earned my respect sir. When I read your posts on this issue I get the happiness that with time people will no the truth about bible and stop being slaves of their pastors

OLAADEGBU: Rather, Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar = Tax

Give to God what belongs to God = Tithes.

Fixed.

Who's name is or the bank note ? (bank or GOD)
What head is or the bank notes ? (humans or GOD)
Do you really think GOD needs those bank notes you call tithes?
Do you really think you can bribe GOD towards blessing you?
GOD knows what is best for you and will give it when you need it, is him can decide when you need it.
I believe GOD has noting to do with earthly materials and will never ask you for any pay,gift or ransom to bless you. All he wants is for you to love him as your creator.

Bidam: Hahahaha..the most funniest post i have read in such a long time..If you see my post as sounding bitter then i am sorry that we are not on the same page,it's like communication seems to be a problem with me and you.My post is actually devoid of all the allegation you leveled against me.You better be careful since this forum is anonymous like i said earlier.You are actually committing a grave error by calling me ungodly and you are in no position to chastise me since you are not the great Apostle Paul.Leave that work to the Holy Spirit.And what gave you the impression you are right and i am wrong. Do you know how many denominations we have today in the Christendom? It is all this i am right and others are wrong mentality that is the problem.If you don't tithe give glory to God.Allow others who want to tithe do it to the glory of God..abeg. Don't condemn them.cheers.

Tithing is a sin stop sending false information to people. Give to Cesar what belongs to Cesar and to GOD what belongs to GOD. Wait, I mean give to the bank what belongs to the bank (money) and to GOD your self (righteousness, love, faith and repentance)

My personal experience with winners chapel and Elshideir in England.
I went to same winners chapel for complete two months, in each occasion the samon, bible reading and teaching were same issues, that is paying tithes and giving offerings just in different tune by different pastors. A particular pastor had to cut the bible reading shot because the information on the next verse was about helping the poor. Guess what, they are all Nigerian pastors, not until we break our self out of this slavery called religion, these greedy pastors of nigeria will continue to enrich them self in the name of Christianity.

rabzy: As long as the church exists in its present form, tithing will never cease because it caters to the greed and desires of the taker and the giver.
The pastors wants to continue their ostentatious larger-than-life and celebrity lifestyle so tithing and continous offering will never cease, the givers wants ten fold of what they give, so while you give one-ten to God they want ten times of that back. That is why they always want to sow, sow into their pastors life.
Will you keep giving even if God does not give u back.

The poor widow was a giver and she kept on giving even when she was not getting the money back from God. Of course she has Gods blessings but evidence shows it was not in cash.

I agree with you mate. Jesus christ paid all the price and their is no need to give some greedy pastor anything to get the blessing of God.

If one sees tithes and church offering as good thing to do and do it with faith, that is absolutely fine. However, pastors that try to impose it on their members are wrong.

Having said the above, I am wondering what could be a bigger sin, than knowing that some of the church members can not afford food for their family and that person next to you needs food yet you ignore them and give your offering and tithe to the pastors.

Of what need is it to add one cup of water to the ocean (pastors pocket) then use it to care for 100 people at a time?
Are the pastors the God we are worshiping?

I will give my offering and tithe to that person next to me that is in need, after all that person sitting next to me is the God I can see.

Mr president sir, why can't we have a death sentence for wasting of public funds and damaging of public infrastructure