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Education / Re: 2013/2014 Obafemi Awolowo University ::ASPIRANTS:: by cimetidine: 6:12am On Dec 11, 2013
PROFLOVY: GREAT IFE ASPIRANTS OR SHOULD I SAY FRESHERS.I HAIL OO..I GOT A QUESTION TO ASK..IS IT POSSIBLE TO BE GIVEN TWO ADMISSION IN A SCHOOL LIKE OAU IN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS? MICROBIOLOGY AND MEDICINE TO BE SPECIFIC..WHICH ADMISSION LETTER WILL JAMB ISSUE?
NO, but they might make mistakes, who knows?

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Education / Re: 2013/2014 Obafemi Awolowo University ::ASPIRANTS:: by cimetidine: 6:10am On Dec 11, 2013
ikecinho: Please anyone here knows if I can apply for admission on theatre art wit my waec result,which I had my maths canceled?
Go to oauife.edu.ng cuz I doubt any1 is conversant with that course here. And by the way, OAU do call it Dramatic Arts while UI named it Theatre Arts. Tz all d same. However for most Art courses esp Law 'ENGLISH nd Maths are compulsory'...Yhu cn obtain a Waec form or Neco so as to combine nd put awaiting in ur Jamb. Afterall, b4 yhu cn resume nd do clearance, 2017 ma pe thanks toAsuu.
Education / Re: 2013/2014 Obafemi Awolowo University ::ASPIRANTS:: by cimetidine: 6:06am On Dec 11, 2013
Olastep: OAU accepts WAEC+ NECO, WAEC + WAEC, NECO + NECO or NECO + WAEC
Ok sir. I'v never seen any1 dat even combined.Are yhu in skul? Are lectures going on?
Education / Re: 2013/2014 Obafemi Awolowo University ::ASPIRANTS:: by cimetidine: 8:32pm On Dec 10, 2013
Shegz94: Pls, pple wit d experience or dat know of dis shuld kindly help 2 answer d question. Can NECO result b combined wit WAEC result? It is urgent, pls.
Shegz94: Pls, pple wit d experience or dat know of dis shuld kindly help 2 answer d question. Can NECO result b combined wit WAEC result? It is urgent, pls.
Shegz94: Pls, pple wit d experience or dat know of dis shuld kindly help 2 answer d question. Can NECO result b combined wit WAEC result? It is urgent, pls.
No, only waec nd waec, neco nd neco. OOU accepts Waec nd Neco doh bt OAU, no
Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by cimetidine: 6:45pm On Dec 07, 2013
Hmmmmmmm, could have prefered to lose in order for Chelsea to win. Anyways, Funnab, what's the scores?
Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by cimetidine: 4:12pm On Dec 07, 2013
pseudonomer:

My opponent stance is NYSC posting should limited to their zone. They can actually avoid the few states that is less than 6, and still keep the posting into other regions.
You'v agreed that Corp members don't need to go to d North? Those 6states?
Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by cimetidine: 4:09pm On Dec 07, 2013
pseudonomer:

No, Damex33 has some challenges. He couldn't make the debate.

And I will never agree the post corpers should be limited to their zones. It makes the essence of the NYSC void, or maybe you are trying to ask me if NYSC Programme should be eliminated?
read what you'v missed, we'v settled that.
Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by cimetidine: 4:07pm On Dec 07, 2013
laryom1: but u ppl proposal might mAke it worse.
how?
Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by cimetidine: 4:03pm On Dec 07, 2013
laryom1: bt d hatred is wot govmnt wnt to eliminate tru NYSC postin... I sighted dat example cuz u were only talkin abt d north with total exclusion of oda zones
and has the NYSC posting worked? That's our argument.
Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by cimetidine: 3:57pm On Dec 07, 2013
laryom1: ok.. So now if a southerner is posted to south now and got his/her hand chopped again, isn't dat anoda tin?
the hatred for other ethnics is the cause of any subsequent chopping of hand, but you don't hate your brother, I think
Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by cimetidine: 3:55pm On Dec 07, 2013
laryom1: ok.. So now if a southerner is posted to south now and got his/her hand chopped again, isn't dat anoda tin?
You'v been dancing on the same spot sir even when we'v answered your questions accurately. We'v settled all these things you are bringing up.
Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by cimetidine: 3:52pm On Dec 07, 2013
In view of all the above arguments, I'm so sure that FUNAAB and everyone is convinced that posting of NYSC members should be limited to their zones. Especially Damex333 who failed to argue nor deny our assertions. Thanks

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Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by cimetidine: 3:44pm On Dec 07, 2013
laryom1: @OAU.....You made mention that NYSC was established with d motive of unification of tribes.. Now, you are saying corps members shud serve in his or her respective geo-political zone.. Do you think letting them do so will still promote dat unity in d country? If yes, how?
there was nothing like social networks then. Also, tentatively and because of the nation's state, since it won't hamper peace nd unity, the feature of posting shld be put on hold.
Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by cimetidine: 3:39pm On Dec 07, 2013
laryom1: @ OAU's...Hmmm... Talking about a southerner or a westerner shudnt serve in the north is kinda confusing.. Saying a northerner should serve in d north a southerner shud serve in d south, cuz of insufficient security in d region. Does dat means a hausa corps member shud face all d dangers in d north? Or his own life isn't worth saving by askin dem to serve there?
At least, it is their zone. They have been living there even since when they were in the university. That's not a problem for them, they know how they have been dealing with it.
Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by cimetidine: 3:34pm On Dec 07, 2013
Omolola1:

Sir,
The AAUA example she gave was still during the electoral crisis. You've still not answered my question.
I need a Yes or No.
Murder is the attempt or threat and not the act itself. There were cases of threat and attempts even after the election. I believe that is enough to scare young corp members. It is a bomb itself.
Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by cimetidine: 3:21pm On Dec 07, 2013
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Good. Let's believe then that the 'benefits' of the NYSC is not worth the 'risk'. Right?
No sir, but the benefit of the 'geo-political zone posting'
Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by cimetidine: 3:18pm On Dec 07, 2013
Omolola1:

Thanks for pointing that out.

This question goes to oluwatola and cimetidine.

The killing of corp members was paramount and went haywire during the time of the elections/crisis. Ever since then, has there been any report of corp members been killed AFTER the crisis of the elections? If yes, kindly provide the reference
Madam, not that corp members only are targeted, but they are under the risk of falling victim. However, I may not be able to provide an accurate reference, but it is common knowledge that corp members are redeploying from violent states. Oluwatola gave an example of AAUA where a corp member was killed and AAUA vexed up because he was their product.
Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by cimetidine: 3:06pm On Dec 07, 2013
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@Cimetidine: Your argument is observed. However, you insisted that the NYSC is not achieving its aim. Aside from the 'probable' safety of their lives, what other purpose will limiting the Corpers to their Geo Pol Zone serve?
I mean the aim is to unite ethnic groups as argued by my opponents, however incessant cases of riot still lingers despite the geo-political zone posting.
Also sir, the cost of travelling is so far too much to afford talkless of travel risks. Thanks sir.

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Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by cimetidine: 2:44pm On Dec 07, 2013
pseudonomer:

Are you trying to say the fight for one Nigeria doesn't worth it?
it worths it, but we fight it with wrong ammunition. Pity the young corp members, dude

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Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by cimetidine: 2:38pm On Dec 07, 2013
pseudonomer:

A lot of great men and women (Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King Jnr, and so on) lost their lives; some were jailed in a fight against race, tribe and gender discrimination.
I insist that Mandela didn't lose his life because of anything, he died a natural death. Yay, he was jailed, but if our young corp members are jailed, we call that patriotsm, but alas, they are being slaughtered.

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Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by cimetidine: 2:34pm On Dec 07, 2013
pseudonomer:

Good things are infectious, same goes with bad things. What I meant is that, "For examples, most corp members posted to the educational less developed states (EDLS) engaged in academics (teaching), which tend to improve the standard of education there, and increase the level of literacy."
Sir, they have teachers, and why can't you make it willingly and not compulsory. Why forcing our young Daniels to preach in lions' den?

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Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by cimetidine: 2:22pm On Dec 07, 2013
Damex, I must point out that you failed to categorically spell out your stance at the end of your essay.

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Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by cimetidine: 2:18pm On Dec 07, 2013
@pseudonomer, Mandela just died sir and others you pointed out did not die the death of martyrs. They were jailed rather, there is a fine linen between Jails and death. After Mandela was jailed, he became South African's president. Can our slaughtered youths mount any challenge?
Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by cimetidine: 2:14pm On Dec 07, 2013
pseudonomer:

If we choose to neglect those areas, and will allow them to continue in their folly ways, do you think very soon, we are going to regret that decision? In one of Asa's song title "Fire on the mountain" there's a line that says" ....One day, the river will over flow, and we'll run, run, wishing we had quenched the fire" I believe beheading someone that has headache is not the solution to the pain, in the real sense, it worsen it. Those poor souls(the "Boko-Harams"wink needs education, and the corp members posted there are doing a great job to increase the level of literacy there. What I will suggest is adequate security.
You mean the Boko boys that clearly detest Western Education needs Education? Or don't you know their main reason for their violence is what you just mentioned? And can you give me an instance where a corp member walked up to a boko haram member(as if we can identify them) to educate him and what is the result sir? Will adequate security ease the fear and tension already created in people? Will adequate security ease the transport fares when corp members are paid meagre sums? Brother, admit the fact that corp members should be posted to their home zones, and I will appreciate and respect you.
Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by cimetidine: 2:07pm On Dec 07, 2013
@damex333, your last point about corp members sleeping on fields is not clear, can you please shed light on it? @pseudonomer, your brother you gave as an instance is not the real and correct instance you should have given because the difference between Ekiti and Kwara is not so spelt, admit the fact that your brother could have cried had it been he was posted to Borno state, is it the danger in the travelling? The acclimitation? Ekitis do drink kunu and I don't think his marriage to a Kwara indigene is so special as such chance could have been available if he schooled at OAU, afterall, OAU do admit oda indigenes. Brother, I even have the feelings that your brother redeployed. However, the advantages you even mentioned when weighed on a balance lacks weight in comparison to the mass killing of our young and fragile corps members in the North.

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Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by cimetidine: 1:54pm On Dec 07, 2013
@pseudonomer, you clearly pointed out that we should sacrifice because of unity to reign, don't you feel the lives of precious souls and future giants being butchered in the north is too much a sacrifice? Don't you feel for the parents of such corp members? Don't you think there are alternatives to posting corp members to dreary areas. If you insist, i however suggest that anybody bent on learning the culture of other tribes can decide to school in such places i.e an Osun indigene can school at UNIMAID for his or her undergraduate or postgraduate, another alternative is to employ the service of search engines like google to get the idea of such cultures. What do you think sir?

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Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by cimetidine: 1:06pm On Dec 07, 2013
POSTING OF NATIONAL YOUTH SERVICE CORPS (NYSC) SHOULD BE LIMITED TO THEIR GEO-POLITICAL ZONES
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> “Posting of National Youth Service Corps (NYSC) should be limited to their geo-political zones”.



Good afternoon panel of judges, the co-ordinators, co-debaters and my wonderful audience. Representing the Great OAU is Cimetidine and I speak in the affirmative.


However, we cannot just dabble and delve into the main issue of geo-political posting of NYSC members. It is pertinent to briefly explore the history of the scheme. After all, ‘the cart must come before the horse’



About six decades ago, some Nigerian students abroad garnered the idea of NYSC from their foreign counterparts, precisely Kwame Nkrumah’s ‘YOUNG PIONEERS’ in Ghana. One year later, after the meeting held at the University of Montreal, Canada on 28th July, 1966, the conference of Nigerian Students in the Americas, unanimously adopted a resolution, calling on the Military Government of Nigeria to establish a NYSC programme for Nigerian graduates.


Truly, the unfortunate antecedents in our National history gave impetus to the institution of the NYSC by decree no 24 of 22nd May, 1973 which was later repealed by decree 51 of 16th June, 1993 pronounced by General Ibrahim Babangida.


Yeah, posting of NYSC members in other geo-political zones other than their home-zones is a major feature of the scheme. Nevertheless, as integral as this feature was, it has outlived its useful.


It is a truth which no one can negate that “when the purpose of a thing is not known, its abuse is definitely, inevitable”. Without gainsaying or irrelevant equivocation, the purpose/aim behind the NYSC scheme is arguable National Integration. This facially and superficially appears and poses to amount to be a laudable action, but the fact is that “no matter what fine linen a snake is clothed; it doesn’t lose its venom nor cease to be poisonous”



The NYSC posting procedure which posts our fresh graduates to geo-political zones outside their home zones is a time bomb already exploded which ought to be detonated now. The opposing side may proffer a somewhat intelligent argument that the scheme enables Nigerians to rekindle the flame of friendship, brotherhood and unity, but I dare say that intelligent though this argument may appear, it is neither logical nor reasonable. The fatality of this action has been vividly illustrated in the precious futures of our shining stars which have been extinguished. Popular hip-hop artiste (Shakirat) once sang “Hips don’t lie”. She was right and succinct, but it is not only hips that do not lie, numbers and figures also do not lie and no matter how my opponents choose to close their eyes or remain blind to the figures of agony, it still pierces our eyes with its blinding rays.



According to the Punch newspaper of the 28th March, 2012, more than a thousand lives of our youth Corps members have been lost in the crisis-prone Northern Zone alone. The sheer implication of this, which may prove to be a bitter pill for the opposing side to swallow, is that, countless destinies have been truncated, visions have been dimmed and hopes killed on the altar of unity-clothed NYSC. The question which begs for answer and which I readily pause to ask is this; “Do we because of friendship continually offer our children to a hungry lion?” Is it not arrant folly or complete madness to keep chasing a cow that has you by the horns?



The truth I admit and which majority of Nigerians approve is that the scheme may have been borne out of true motives and sheer patriotism but as Benjamin Disraeli once famously remarked, “the time is never right to do justice in was-time” which implies that Nigeria is currently braving the storms of insecurity that threatens to blow our ship off the coast and no fragile mast of NYSC can withstand its onslaught. My point, lucidly and clearly stated here is that our country cannot afford to turn deaf ears to the blood of our butchered innocent Corps members, crying for mercy, and the anguish and distress calls of the serving ones calling for succor. Quoting the words of Mother Theresa “If we continue to fight and quarrel, it is because we do not know that we belong to one another”. Nigeria is one, and until this moral detergent is used to wash the dusty brains of our people and true orientation takes place, the posting remains a failed experiment and a mere scholarly adventure. We send our youths to blood-thirsty criminals, with little or meager sums and insufficient combat experience.


Posting a fresh graduate with a blossoming future and great dreams to anywhere outside his home-zone is like leaving the world’s greatest swimmer (Michael Phelps) in the Sahara desert with nothing but his swimming trunks.



The panel of judges, my fellow co-debaters and the viewing audience, our fathers do say that “when a drum is sounding harsh and tough, it is nearing its end” and the Swahili of Kenya will also say that “no wise one keeps drinking cow-milk if it makes him sick every time”, the inferences and relevance of these proverbial sayings is the conclusion that the current posting has been an ill wind which blows nobody any good, a crop which makes the farmer sick and should therefore be uprooted without further delay. A serious malady, they say, needs a drastic remedy. Now is the time to save the future leaders of our nation, this is the period to salvage the visions of tomorrow.
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> To crown it all, if this evil genius snuffing out the light of our tomorrow is murdered, I am of the utmost, full and total confidence that we will be delivered from unnecessary fears, avoidable tears and irrelevant anxiety. The NYSC scheme is a lovely scheme, but like a good man with a bad wife, the posting scheme must be stopped.



I therefore conclude with the words of Martin Luther King Jr. who wisely stated that “If everyman would sweep his own compound, then the whole world would be clean”. Let Nigerians sweep this bad menace calling ‘Geo-political posting’ out now.

Thank you.



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> REFERENCES-
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1. www.onlinenigeria.com/link s/NYSCadv.asp?blub=401/

2. www.nysc.gov.ng/>
2. www.punchng.com/news /corps-members-protest- in-kaduna-over-allowances/> 3. Encarta: Benjamin Disreali
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4. Punch Newspaper of the 28th March, 2012

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Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate. :::Planning Thread by cimetidine: 1:01pm On Dec 07, 2013
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Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate. :::Planning Thread by cimetidine: 9:18am On Dec 07, 2013
NAME: CIMETIDINE
SCHOOL: O.A.U
SPEAKER: SUPPORTING SPEAKER
TOPIC: POSTING OF NATIONAL YOUTH SERVICE CORPS (NYSC) MEMBERS SHOULD BE LIMITED TO THEIR GEO-POLITICAL ZONES
STANCE: SUPPORTING
Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate. :::Planning Thread by cimetidine: 3:19pm On Dec 03, 2013
Fynestboi: yes its... undecided
well, repeat dis on saturday. Won't quote u again. Watch out
Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate. :::Planning Thread by cimetidine: 2:49pm On Dec 03, 2013
Fynestboi: @cimetdine be careful you might loose your priviledge of representing your school for an attempt of deception, am sure you understand what am saying better.... angry angry angry
privilege? I smh

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Education / Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate. :::Planning Thread by cimetidine: 10:59am On Dec 03, 2013
Damex333: guy you funny gan o, that combo do scatter person brain abi?
he funny gidi na. He's never crious. He?'s a comedian. I love him

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