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rinora: and what do u mean by that,silly post like shes not qualified

BlackPikiN: Ohh Please shut up you pr1ck!

manchy7531: Like i will always say,i dont hate yoruba people but i hate their leaders because they speak with double mouth.these are the same leaders that where threating that boko haram will split the country,OPC went on the street to protest boko haram,they even threatened retaliation when some yoruba professors were killed in a bomb attack in north,not to talk of d number of yoruba churchs, men,women,youth and children that have been killed and destroyed in the same north.what am trying to put here is the fact that, why will the SW be alligning with the North to bring down a South.am not a Jonathan fan, please dont get me wrong but, for me i believe aside the problem of PDP/Jonathan,the North is a bigger time bomb.this is the time the whole South and Middlebelt is to unite to be able to face this monster called North.Actions being taken by SW leaders is what makes other southern regions not trust the SW and also call them betrayers cos at every point in time they always betray the south.like my boss (a yoruba man) once said,that the actiöns Awo took during biafra by not allowing biafra go and the long dominance of the north,is what has slowed down the growth of a progressive south and also stunt nigeria's growth but we pretend like its not so.he based his arguement on the fact that the south is the pillar with which nigeria rest upon and if any action in favour or against the south determines our future because the north contributes nothing to nigeria,so it has nothing to loose neither those it have any interest in nigeria expect power grab and resource.in veiw of all that,what stops an ACN/APGA/DPP/LP merger and then CPC can join if they want but they should be made to be a minority in the decision making process of the merger?there the interest of south will be protected first.if things continue the way its going,as we are not sure if nigeria will out live 2015,i see the biafran situation where the battle will be between the SE/SS/MD against the SW/NE/NW and the battle ground will be the west.cos they will have to pay for their continous sellout of the south to the islamic north.am not a jonathan fan but i will say it anywhere that jonathan/PDP is not our problem rather the north because other parties have not shown that they are a better alternative to PDP and dont forget,most of the opposition party leaders were once PDP members or have had deals with PDP or were once public office holder with nothing to show and were corrupt too in the likes of Tinubu,Bisi Akande,El Rufai,Ribadu,Peter Obi dont forget Rochas was once a PDP presidential candidate,Mimiko is silent eating his own money in ondo.All these oppositiön crooks are only angry because they have been shut out of the national cake.Finally if it is by party can somebody tell me how an Aregeshola,Agimobi,Fayemi and the rest of ACN governors asides Fashola better than TA orji or Uduaghan or george akume or babangida aliyu.0r are they better than PDP's Amaechi,Chime,Akpabio or LP's Mimiko or APGA's Rochas.like a poster earlier said,it is all about power grab and not service to the people.the only solutiön is division

warrior01: God have mercy. Is this what bakare meant by saying 'darkness will envelope the nation by october. So, south western part of the country should be ready to welcome boko haram bombings by october and make the country totally ungovernable? It is now crystal clear that all these rhetorics about Gej is just about power grab and never :-Xabout good governance

buzugee: AMEN but you know nairaland will be boring if we dont toy with loquacious heathens like this cleverly fellow. personally i think he should change his name to dumberly

davidylan: this thread did not warrant that many responses. Obviously mr cleverly had made up his mind and was simply fishing around for excuses.

buzugee: you doubt the authenticity of 'christianity' because ye are of ya father the devil and the lusts of ye father ye will do ( john 8 vs 44 )

buzugee: coherent reason ? what are ya smoking that angel dust again ? i couldnt be more coherent. the guy is in the grip of seducing spirits. they got their claws in deep.

Beaf: All false prophets will go to hell.

Demdem: My bro, i have nothing to gain in lying. am not beaf. is there for all to confirm

logicboy01: lol...so you and buzugee have given up on your evangelism

tbaba1234: Indeed, you are correct,

1. The universe is indeed vast and far greater than mankind like the Quran says

The creation of the heavens and earth is greater by far than the creation of mankind, though most people do not know it. (Quran 40:57)

Sometimes, we are too absorbed in ourselves to realise that we are insignificant in the universe. Everything in the universe follows certain rules , what we call the laws of nature... You see as muslims we believe that this balance is maintained by a creator who has not only a will but the power to actualise His will. This is manifested in the creation.

So why would God be concerned about humans? We are just a spec in a spec in a spec really.... God states in the Quran

Can man not see that We created him from a drop of fluid? Yet– lo and behold!– he disputes openly, producing arguments against Us, forgetting his own creation. He says, ‘Who can give life back to bones after they have decayed?’

Say, ‘He who created them in the first place will give them life again: He has full knowledge of every act of creation. (Quran 36: 77-79)

So not only does he create, he has full knowledge of every creation, including the spec that is mankind and things even smaller.



2. What we know scientifically about human is very limited... Science still can't tell us why we sleep for instance. An article from national geographic: http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2009/08/26/why_we_sleep_is_a_mystery/

You see, if there is a creator, there must be evidence for him. That evidence must transcend what the human mind is able to provide and fill up some of the holes in our scientific knowledge. A muslim would present the Quran as something that goes beyond what human can produce and would provide the evidence for it. Kindly check this thread https://www.nairaland.com/972776/amazing-quran-pre-ramadan-study-interactive



As muslims, we do not believe in original sin first of all..

Man was created for the earth and would have come to the earth anyways..

[Prophet], when your Lord told the angels, ‘I am putting a successor on earth,’ they said, ‘How can You put someone there who will cause damage and bloodshed, when we celebrate Your praise and proclaim Your holiness?’ but He said, ‘I know things you do not.’ (Quran 2:30)

He was in the garden for a brief period, they were told to not approach a tree, he did.... He disobeyed while making an independent choice... The Quran calls it a slip not the biggest sin in the history of mankind...

But Satan made them slip, and removed them from the state they were in. (Quran 2:36)

But they sought forgiveness and were duely forgiven,,,

Then Adam received some words from his Lord and He accepted his repentance: He is the Ever Relenting, the Most Merciful (Quran 2:37)



Do you believe that God is a spec in a spec in a spec?... The verse below summarizes our belief of Jesus:

People of the Book (Jews and christians), do not go to excess in your religion, and do not say anything about God except the truth: the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was nothing more than a messenger of God, His word, directed to Mary, a spirit from Him. So believe in God and His messengers and do not speak of a ‘Trinity’– stop [this], that is better for you– God is only one God, He is far above having a son, everything in the heavens and earth belongs to Him and He is the best one to trust. (Quran 4:171)

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I understand....

Stressy: I hate people who take undue advantage of others..can one tell me where was this pastor Tunde Bakare during Sani Abachas regime

buzugee: why dont you go ahead and do whats on your mind already. you dont need to be convinced. sounds like you already made up your mind. grow some balls and do whats on your mind and stop wasting peoples time. are you scared ni ?

Piyke: @cleverly you can never understand God by human logic so stop trying, that why even the disciples of Jesus at most times couldn't understand what He was saying because the Spirit had not yet come. You have to come in childlike faith and with time you will get some of the answers to your questions. I use to remember when I asked such. Meanwhile there are also things you will only understand when you get to heaven, this is what Paul meant when he said we know in part and prophesy in part in 1cor 13:9