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tolexy007:
Branding Sir, Majority wil prefer to go for Samsung than other Chinese fone, because of trust

Trust about what? Maybe the spying trash circulated by the USA

tolexy007:
if dey don't bully dem,China will over throw dem, U don't giv ur enemy a breathing space

Thank God you admitted that all the US does is bullying. Can't they devise another means of competition?

How can they block the road and start shooting sporadically?

Are you sure it's Hausa or Fulani?

One more thing...I bet that Mannabbgrills guy will surely be in this thread. I can bet my life savings on that

F*cking hypocrite

tolexy007:
Don't forget Forget Samsung has started producing cheap fone

Tell me what is so special in Samsung that can't be replicated by the Chinese.

tolexy007:
Lolz.....China already have their Social media eg Wechat, but people don't really embraced it, cos it not really accepted. my brother, For china to beat US in this game, It will require divine intervention

You Know what is holding China back? It's just the ENGLISH BARRIER. I know USA is the most powerful but if someone is pushed too much, extreme measures will be devised

post=78746691:
Bayelsa state : one of the most under developed state in Nigeria despite the Billions of dollars they get.

Suffering and smiling ogogoro master. the ineffectual buffon himself......thanks to Guardian International for the apt name!

U know why I dislike everything you do? It's because you're a staunch hypocrite. On normal threads you comment as if you're human and people rush to appreciate your words with stupid likes and shares. Anywhere I see ur comment when you're pretending to be normal I just see through your bleak character and it irritates me

Now I believe that news is a lie

tolexy007:
Yes I know we are not talking entertainment, What if China have thier own OS and America refuse to.let Facebook, Instagram, goggle, twitter work on it, do you think peolpp will buy it? How many people can do without Facebook, twitter Instagram, YouTube etc

Then they will watch people switch to the new social medias and China won't mind hiring English analysts and programmers as long as the apps work well to the detriment of the ones you listed above, after all things come and go.
The main issue will be that the Chinese will have an advantage due to having the larger market. Imagine combining the chinese, African, some parts of Asia and European markets. The thing is if the Chinese act appropriately.

tolexy007:
it will be so hard for China and Huawei, to convince People outside China to use thier OS or app, anything America is always accept or copy worldwide. tell me how many peolpp u know that is active on Wechat or other Chinese app? ask urself y is the that Hollywood movies are movies people watch most truout the world even those Islamic countries that hate america cannot do without it, it because America Is the central of the world. So China have a long battle to fight

We're talking about technology here not entertainment. Watching Indian movies doesn't stop a person from buying Chinese phones

Although I respect and love the USA I can only see this trade war acts as bullying. Imagine they accused the Japanese of the same information stealing and spying because they saw the prowess of the Japanese in the 1980's. They slammed Japan with sanction and tariff and successfully halted it's economic development all because of the fear of losing the top spot in the world.

Instead of them to find other productive means to tackle Asian tigers, they normally resort to bullying all because weak Western nations are all too ready to obey them anytime anyday hiding beneath the facade of economic friendship and treaties.

Like the article said...the Chinese is very different from the Japanese and will be ready to fight for their economic relevance. I thought developmental strides should be applaudes not bullied and the USA should review some of the actions it takes, even if there is no one bold enough to stand up to them.
Even if they succeed in crippling the Chinese economy, another Asian tiger will also rise and I will see how long the US will keep using this stunt

Oboy e get somethings wey pass coincidence o

He even molded his own too..and guess what happened..

Zoharariel:
You're fighting Iran, you're fighting Russia,

You're fighting North Korea, you're fighting Syria,

You're fighting Iraq, you're fighting Yemen,

You're fighting Libya, you're fighting Venezuela

You're fighting China, you're raping Nigeria

Are you the only Country in the World?

In a 2016 report, the International Criminal Court chief prosecutor Fatou Bensouda initiated an investigation into possible war crimes in Afghanistan involving the torture of 61 prisoners committed by the US Army and the torture and rape of 27 prisoners committed by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) at CIA prison sites in Poland, Romania and Lithuania.

In response to the ICC inquiry in 2018, John Bolton warned:

"We will ban its judges and prosecutors from entering the United States. We will sanction their funds in the US financial system, and we will prosecute them in the US criminal system. We will do the same for any company or state that assists an ICC investigation of Americans,”

After the Court responded that it would continue its investigation with “war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by foreign government forces in Afghanistan,”

True to his word, in early April 2019, Mike Pompeo revoked the visa for the ICC chief prosecutor - Fatou Bensoud.

In a devastating setback for the ICC, its "pre-trial chamber" recently refused to approve the investigation from moving forward citing a lack of "US cooperation".

My children; Is this the same bastard & abominable Country that is supposedly a beacon of hope & freedom?

WW3 - Please come kwickily! Russian Iskander-M, Topol-M, Bulava, RS-28 Sarmat & Zircon hypersonic - are crying for justice & vengeance.

They can try their poo with other countries but China no go gree for them lai lai. Us is busy bullying everybody because them they claim say them get allies

BlackfireX:
Trump I love you, but we are talking about Chinese here , people who are advanced in psychological warfare

We all love America but standing up to condemn some certain things shows our true love for em

Billy0naire:
It has always been bullying. They have just three strategies, bullying and overthrowing Governments and going to War.

The Chinese are their match. That is why the Chinese focused on building the military first and devaluing their currency, then the Manufacturing, Infrastructures, e-commerce and now they are ready for the next phase, which is pulling plug on US debts and FDIs.

US can not devalue the dollars now, cos if they do, the Chinese will devalue their Yuan and launch national cryptocurrency.

It is over for Uncle Sam. No more monopolar Earth, it is the Era of Multipolar world leadership.

China has 1.4B humans and America is 330M, even with AI soldiers, Chinese will beat the USA mercilessly at war.

You killed it bro..
US should know that the powers before them didn't resort to bullying else they wouldn't have become what they are today. They like thinking that they're so powerful because of weaponry and nuclear power that has been replicated by China sef

Billy0naire:
USA must know that the Chinese cannot be bullied. The chinese are way too advanced to make the mistakes that Japan made.

The Chinese FDI into the USA is almost in trillions now, and guess what? If they pull out of those deals then USA businesses will crumble.

I believe the Chinese are saving that as their last trump card after pulling plugs on the USA debt.

America can not even see what is coming.

Seriously the US is not trying at all. Even if it is trying to protect it's interest, when people peek into it's previous trade battles and discover that it is still the same baseless accusations, they'll have no choice than to conclude it as bullying.

Although I respect and love the USA I can only see this trade war acts as bullying. Imagine they accused the Japanese of the same information stealing and spying because they saw the prowess of the Japanese in the 1980's. They slammed Japan with sanction and tariff and successfully halted it's economic development all because of the fear of losing the top spot in the world.

Instead of them to find other productive means to tackle Asian tigers, they normally resort to bullying all because weak Western nations are all too ready to obey them anytime anyday hiding beneath the facade of economic friendship and treaties.

Like the article said...the Chinese is very different from the Japanese and will be ready to fight for their economic relevance. I thought developmental strides should be applaudes not bullied and the USA should review some of the actions it takes, even if there is no one bold enough to stand up to them.
Even if they succeed in crippling the Chinese economy, another Asian tiger will also rise and I will see how long the US will keep using this stunt

Techvenge:
You may be right. But remember that Huawei already sell smartphones in China without Android OS because they are banned there.

The major issue now is how Huawei is going to beat Android at its own market in the west, Europe and Africa. Already they dominate the China market but that's simply not enough. Also, it will take serious miracle to convince developers to move their OS.

More like how do you convince people to leave Facebook and move to another platform, something Google tried with G+ and failed.

Or how do you tell people to abandon Google search and move to your search engine. You see the problem there?

This current move will hit them negatively and their hope of becoming the best selling smartphones in the world by 2020 has been pushed back to an unforeseeable future.

It's simple. Most phone companies in Africa are Chinese. If it is regulated or if the new OS turns out to be better, most companies will switch to it and then leave Android grappling for smaller markets in Europe

Hong Kong(CNN Business) As President Donald Trump lands in Japan Saturday amid a worsening trade war with China, he could well be thinking back to a previous economic spat between Washington and an Asian economic powerhouse.

In the 1980s, Japan was the big bad. Its economy was booming — the second largest in the world — and many in the United States feared they were about to be overtaken.

Articles were published warning of the "Japanning of America" or an "economic Pearl Harbor," as Japanese businesses bought US companies and landmarks. Lawmakers and commentators warned of a growing trade deficit between the two countries, and complained of Japanese firms stealing US intellectual property and taking advantage of unfair trade deals.


In an interview with the "Morton Downey Jr. Show" in 1989, Trump himself complained that Japan had "systematically sucked the blood out of America — sucked the blood out!"

"It's a huge problem, and it's a problem that's going to get worse," Trump said of the US-Japan trade balance. "And they're laughing at us."

By then, however, change was already happening. And far from overtaking the United States, Japan was about to fall far behind.


Trade war
After President Ronald Reagan took office in 1981, the United States started pressuring Japan to open its market up to American companies and reduce the trade imbalance between the countries.

While Japan agreed to measures including a limit on the number of cars it exported to the United States, panic over Japanese trade power grew — and lawmakers on both sides demanded action.

In approving a bill calling for tough trade reprisals against Japan, Robert Packwood, then Republican head of the Senate's finance committee, promised to give Tokyo "an eye for an eye ... that is all they understand."

During a 1985 finance committee hearing, Democratic Sen. Max Baucus said that: "Reagan predicted 'a future in which commerce will be king, the eagle will soar, and America will be the mightiest trading nation on Earth.' Well, commerce may be king. And eagles may be soaring. But they're not American eagles. America's trade performance has never been worse."

That year, five countries — the United States, West Germany, France, the United Kingdom and Japan — signed the Plaza Accord, devaluing the US dollar against the Japanese yen (and the German Deutsche Mark). This was a boon for the United States, leading to an increase in exports and a lowering of its trade deficit with many Western European countries.

Yet the Plaza Accord wasn't the end of US action against Japan. In 1987, Washington imposed 100% tariffs on $300 million worth of Japanese imports, effectively blocking them from the American market.

Things quickly turned sour for Tokyo. As the yen increased in value, Japanese products became more and more expensive, and countries turned away from the one-time export powerhouse. Efforts by the country's central bank to keep the yen's value low sparked a stock price bubble, the collapse of which helped push the country into recession and a "lost decade."

"Japan's export and GDP growth essentially halted in the first half of 1986," economists Joshua Felman and Daniel Leigh wrote in a report for the International Monetary Fund. They concluded that while the Plaza Accord did not cause Japan's economic downturn by itself, it did trigger a series of events — compounded by poor decisions in Tokyo — which led to the collapse.


Competing lessons
Some of Trump's first forays into politics involved railing against Japan during the 1980s and early 1990s. During that time, he started calling for the use of tariffs as a trade weapon.

While he has not referenced the historical US-Japan relationship during the recent China conflict, Washington's success against Tokyo could influence his thinking on how to handle Beijing. One of his key advisers on trade, Robert Lighthizer, also took part in Japan negotiations in the 1980s.

In 2011, as Trump flirted with a presidential run, Lighthizer praised his "skepticism toward pure free-trade dogma."

"The icon of modern conservatism, Ronald Reagan, imposed quotas on imported steel, protected Harley-Davidson from Japanese competition, restrained imports of semiconductors and automobiles, and took myriad similar steps to keep American industry strong," he wrote.

Yet while Lighthizer and Trump may take positive lessons from the 1980s trade war, Beijing is also paying attention — and China's leaders have no intention of copying Japan's mistakes.

In an editorial last year, China's Xinhua state news agency warned that "Japan was seriously hurt by its improper response" to the Plaza Accord and US trade pressure.

It blamed the US for scapegoating Japan for problems in the domestic economy, adding a "strong protectionist sentiment was the direct driving force behind the Plaza Accord."

This has been a common theme in state media coverage of the trade war -- that the US is seeking to blame Beijing for matters outside its control.

Donald Trump in 1989. At that time, he was inveighing against Japan for taking advantage of the US on trade.
Donald Trump in 1989. At that time, he was inveighing against Japan for taking advantage of the US on trade.
Repeating history
Of course 2019 is not 1985, and China is not Japan. Beijing is far stronger both economically and politically than Tokyo was in the 1980s, with Japan dependent on the United States for national security and less willing to risk Washington's ire.

"Japan was an easy target for US bashing. After the second world war, Japan has been both politically and economically dependent on the US, resulting in limited bargaining power to counteract the US," analysts Alicia Garcia-Herrero and Kohei Iwahara wrote last week. "China is in a better position to resist US pressure."

The risk in this instance isn't of a failure to learn from history, but that both parties could take the wrong lessons.

Trump and Lighthizer, having cut their teeth in the battles against Tokyo, could assume that a similarly aggressive policy will prompt Beijing to bend to their demands. Chinese negotiators have already learned what happens when you push back against Trump, with trade talks collapsing this month after Beijing reportedly attempted to alter the deal at the last minute.

The failure of those talks led to an immediate escalation in tensions, with new tariffs imposed by both sides. This could be blamed on Beijing's late changes, but equally on Washington's unwillingness to negotiate.

At the same time, China's interpretation of the 1980s could also lead it to make missteps.

On Thursday, Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Kang said any "mutually beneficial deal must be based on mutual respect, equality and win-win outcomes." But as many observers have noted, what China's leaders regard as "win-win" often means a win on its terms, and a desire to avoid repeating Japan's mistakes could result in Beijing refusing to take a minor loss that could ultimately lead to a better overall agreement.

Japan is currently celebrating the beginning of the Reiwa era, under a new emperor, a time to wipe the slate clean and start again. US and Chinese trade negotiators might be better off copying that lesson than those of the 1980s.

https://www.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/24/business/us-china-trade-war-japan-intl/index.html

barackodam:
It's a pity everyone really thinks China is the enemy and US is the savior.

In case you forgot, china is the most populated country on earth, 1.3b people, they would very much cope without US. They would market their things and use. Then, there's the African market, including Asian market too. Since Buhari got there, he's been romancing China abi unA don forget too?


It's china here, they will develop their own App Store, OS, everything themselves and rest of the World would Patronise them. After all, only UK and US have complied thus far.


Make una wait till Russia sides with China

Am telling you bro...
The implications will only have a temporary effect because the Chinese will soon launch their own OS and what will become of Android if China's large market plus the African and Asian markets decides to patronize it?

Not one thread on FP today that Supreme Court declares PDP the winner..

Nairaland why?

Tarrh ma hear word..

Give PDP a state and award APC the country..
I can't fall for dis cheap gimmick

advocate666:
These people and suicide.

Anyway, sniper is cheaper than education.

Francisayo:
Sell your android phone

Just imagine Nigerians. Someone is in need and the best advice you can profer is this. Your types are the ones that will be d first insulting the person if he commits suicide.

If you can't help, you either ignore or don't reply at all. Don't bring your home trainings to the public!

If this is true, the weight and powerof these appointments matter.

If u want me to believe this lie, y don't u appoint southerners to key positions?

Before the war of tribalism begins, it was noted that the guy spoke fluent English at first, and then requested the safety briefing to be translated to Igbo and was even offered to interpretation by some passengers which he clearly refused.

He wanted everything to be spoken loud in Igbo making it obvious he was there to cause trouble.

So the conclusion is that Mr Anaigboso was at clearly at fault.

RandomGuy48:
I do not know what this "Book of Common Era" is, but it demonstrates no grasp of history. In the second century, Christianity was a minority religion and in no position to persecute anyone.

Me sef I wonder o

OtemAtum:
Have you heard of 27 people who drank Jik given to them inside the church and died? Have you read about how innocent children were named witches and killed in the name of Christianity? What about several mumu mumu things being done presently in the name of Christianity?

What are you talking about self?
When did Christianity even develop?

OtemAtum:
You need to do a background check on Christianity. Find out how many people have been killed by Constantine and his likes. Check how many the popes have killed too. Yes, Islam now surpasses Christianity in violence and murder, but Christianity takes the forefront in the past.

Excuse me? Pls tell me you are not serious

OtemAtum:
Did you read the topic before commenting? It was talking about Christianity in the 2nd Century not in the 21st Century. Nowadays, Christians don't go all out to kill physically, rather they kill intelligence and good mentality. You can confirm that from news every now and then.

Ok..dat was then, people weren't much enlightened and that era was an era of wars and battles so every religion z guilty.
Now how does Christianity kill you mentally..that's so funny.
Christianity abides by normal human ethics and I haven't seen any religion as committed to development as Christianity.

[quote author=OtemAtum post=78183442]People think that it's only Islam that is violent and breeding terrorist. This is not true, Christianity has been more violent.


Placing Christianity side by side with Islam is a big disrespect to Christianity undecided

You know am a big fan of religious tolerance, I've been trying to justify some Islamic concepts but something in me keeps saying am in for a shocker and suprisingly enough Islam doesn't prove this wrong. I think the Islamic religion to be specific, needs to to reviewed and refined so as to do away with some contents that doesn't conform with human ethics.

Enough said

Christianity imbeddes in me a kind of restraints that is considered right in ordinary human ethics, so thinking Christianity is violent is the joke of the century