₦airaland Forum

Can’t believe I’m agreeing with Carlson, Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor. Now my question is; since they know they have been working with a propaganda machine, why did they keep silent the whole time it was working in their favor?

They let fox brainwash their grandmas and grandpas into supporting Trump-who is now one of the reasons why we are about to engage in another unnecessary war. None of them had the common sense to predict that shredding Obama’s deal with Iran could result in something like this? I hate when people almost get the point, then they swerve hard and miss it.

They sat on Fox News day after day spreading anti Obama sentiments and supporting brainless Trump for views and ratings. Now the chickens have come home to roost. I really wish they would shut up. Useless people.

"If Israel wants to wage this war, it has every right to do so. It is a sovereign country, and it can do as it pleases,” Carlson wrote, according to Jewish Insider. “But not with America’s backing.”

Israel launched its attack to forestall Iran’s development of a nuclear weapon and perhaps pressure Tehran into giving up that goal. Trump has been trying to construct a new version of an Obama-era nuclear deal that he shredded during his first term

“We’ve watched propaganda news for decades. I’ll call out Fox News and the New York Post. They’re known to be the neocon network news,” Greene told former Florida GOP lawmaker Matt Gaetz on his show on One America News Network.

“We have propaganda news on our side, just like the left does, and the American people have been brainwashed into believing that America has to engage in these foreign wars in order for us to survive, and it’s absolutely not true,” Greene continued.

Greene’s comments came a week after Israel launched attacks aimed at a nuclear and military site in Iran, killing some of the country’s top generals. In response, Iran launched missiles at Israel.

Ibime:
There is nothing like start overnight.

Precisely. I said it didn’t start overnight

Why did Iran rain 200 ballistic missiles on Israel in October 2024 to avenge the killing of Nasrallah, the Head of Hezbollah, a Lebanese Citizen?

If we want to go by rules of engagement, why did one state bomb another state for the killing of a non state actor who is not their citizen?

Iran has been attacking Israel since 2023 and last weeks bombing is the continuation and response to 2 years of Iranian aggression and daily bombardment of Israel from North, South and West. Israel has not bombed anybody first. You do anyhow, you see anyhow.

There’s a reason why I don’t argue for or against a particular country when it comes to wars. Because sometimes it’s way more protracted than who’s right or wrong, since the issues usually span decades.

But at the moment we are looking at who’s instigating new violence and who’s standing in the way of a path to peace and it’s Isreal. What’s a preemptive strike if not a first strike? In this new wave of hostilities, Isreal is the aggressor. They admitted as much.

What I want to know is if we are in support of gra gra “do anyhow see anyhow” tactics, at whose expense is it going to be? Americans?

What’s the material and human cost of a nuclear war if it comes to that? Are you prepared to die today in a nuclear blast? Prepared to suffer the effects of a nuclear fallout?

There’s a reason why the whole world agreed to no more new nuclear weapons. Isreal broke that treaty thereby prompting their neighbors Iran included to start nuclear activities too. If no one in the Middle East can have nuclear weapons then Isreal should follow same rule. If Isreal can’t abide by world rules, why do they expect others to?

Everything points back to them. And they always want to manipulate USA into joining their wars.

Meanwhile they have universal healthcare and subsidized college while American money is funding their wars. Americans can’t even go to college without hundreds of thousands of dollars in college debt

GloriousGbola:
I believe nethenyahu allowed October 7 to happen so the fallout would poison the well for Biden. Because Trump is easy to manipulate. The man thinks he is a movie president where there are clearly defined good guys and bad guys.

And where he can throw tough guy sound bites

I’m not one for conspiracies either but there’s a large school of thought that says 9/11 was an inside job to force US hand in the Middle East. I had a political science professor who was bold about it too. I was like “sir you itching to get fired saying stuff like that on American soil?” Oh well.

But observing Netanyahu’s antics-now that I’m finally paying attention, it’s easy to see why someone would believe that.

Ibime:
Nope he didn't bomb them first. Iran attacked Israel on October 7th 2023 and has been attacking daily ever since from Hezbollah and Houthis. You can tell yourself whatever you want or twist facts on it's head, fact remains fact

I’m not making up facts. In fact I’m not on Iran’s side. I’m on the side of Isreal should carry their wahala and face their issues with Iran without dragging the US into it.

I’m aware that just like Isreal conflict with Palestine, it didn’t start overnight. But they were in the middle of a negotiation and Israel launches a strike against them. Can’t say that’s not fact and that’s not the action of someone who actually doesn’t want peace.

GloriousGbola:
I believe nethenyahu allowed October 7 to happen so the fallout would poison the well for Biden. Because Trump is easy to manipulate. The man thinks he is a movie president where there are clearly defined good guys and bad guys.

And where he can throw tough guy sound bites

He already released a statement stating how Trump is a strong man who wasn’t going to go soft on their enemies like the previous administrations. The manipulation was so obvious and so pathetic to watch. He knows a little ego boost to Trump is all it will take.

Let’s ask ourselves why Trump backed out of the Obama deal that was keeping the peace (as imperfect as it was)? When they knew it would only trigger Iran to continue their nuclear activities? And Now why did Isreal strike Iran first while they are still in the middle of negotiations? What kind of obvious trouble making is that one?

All points to Netanyahu’s slimy fingers pulling the strings from behind because he’s a blood thirsty little demon who is no different from the people he’s telling us are on the verge of attacking us any day now. I’ve been hearing it since I was 3 years old. Literally.

Their propaganda reached my village church when I was a toddler. We used to fast and pray against “3 days of darkness” that Isreal told us was going to happen when Iran and co bombed the world. If they were so afraid and believed this to be true, they should’ve kept the peace that was already negotiated instead of preemptively striking a country they know will retaliate.

We are tired of going into the labor room to push out babies they only plan to send to war and working our fingers to the bones so they can fund more fancy military equipment

I want to believe this too but I don’t. I’m 100% certain nothing will satisfy Netanyahu until Palestinians are wiped off the surface of the earth. That’s also genocidal intent. And to them, Isreal is also a terrorist.

We seemed to agree on no new wars. I saw that as something reds and blues agreed on. UNTIL blood thirsty Netanyahu preemptively strikes Iran. What did he think was going to happen when he bombed them first? If he knew how dangerous they were, what exactly was he hoping to achieve by bombing them if not war? A war he fully expects U.S to jump into and start losing funds and lives over? Like we exist to pay taxes for his wars and raise our young men to go and die for his political ambition.

Ibime:
And I believe a solution for the Palestinians will be worked out with a period of peace for Israel and not having to fight off genocidal wars and attacks every few years.

Iran has been “on the verge of a nuclear bomb” for 30+ years. At least according to Satanyahu. Every few years he comes and drums up congress into funding another war for him because so and so are a few days or months away from developing nuclear weapons.

Netanyahu keeps pushing US into wars to force regime changes in the Middle East. Maybe he’s the one who needs to stop leading Israel make we see something first. Wonder what a different leadership in Israel could look like for the Middle East and the rest of the world.

I used to not pay attention to those issues because I believed if they came to the agreement to go to war to protect American interests, then it must be for good reason. Or so I thought. The happenings in recent years has demystified all of them . Now that I know they weak, emotional and easily manipulated men, I can’t help but wonder how long we all folded our arms and let them kill innocent people to “protect” American interests.

Since everyone agrees that Iran is a terrorist country that shouldn’t own nuclear weapons why is it hard for them to understand Israel is no different? Isreal has been committing terrorism that I can see with my own eyes. Does the definition change based on who the victim is?

IjeBos:
Huh?
This is a wholesale revision of how we got into the Iraq War.
We fought the Iraq war because of Israel. Period. Full Stop.
Netanyahu was the chief instigator of that policy.
There are literally reams of footage of him saying Sadam must be stopped before he got a Nuclear bomb just like he is now with Iran.
You can't have a credible take on what is happening now if you don't know what happened with Iraq.

This was his Congressional Testimony after 9/11 in the runup to the war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AkcI-ncUpE

nateevs:
Oh the Irony of you siding with and voting alongside Evangelical radicals in the US who want to own women's bodies and send them back into the kitchen .

It's like religious fanatism only gets airtime with you guys when it's Islam. All the whole, you are bonafide card-carrying members of the Hand Made Tale gang.

Biggest fattest irony of the century.

They want to “protect” women so much their strategy is to rip women’s freedom and bodily autonomy from them.

If this scenario repeats itself in the future, he’ll 100% vote for another version of Trump. He’s talking not because his employees AKA his business is affected. Terminal selfishness is what they are all suffering from.

Can’t cure hate.

Catch teach empathy.

nateevs:
You fvck around, you find out. Simple. I cannot feel a single bit sorry for people who voted for others to feel pain. The best reaction is to laugh out really loud at the irony of it all.

I boat por Danuld. They are not singing anymore now are they?

Here's another fool below. This one even acknowledging that he was warned. But he argued. This one, a business owner.

https://youtube.com/shorts/GcKPZkh31mM?si=j6Lc7b3cG6Svymu-

IMAliyu2:
This is why I don't think this will ever end without them being brought to trial and forced to face accountability, the entirety of the GOP as a party, their sponsors, and their media & propaganda heads.

They need to feel how post-1930s nazis felt or it won’t end. Until then it’s like pouring water on a smooth stone

EnlightenedUFO:
don't you feel shame?

None whatsoever. That’s the first requirement to be a present day republican. That much is clear.

In the year 2025? What an embarrassing reason.

Maeve7:
The guy voted for Trump hoping Trump would legalize polygamy.

IjeBos:
I do think a lot of Trump's support is some men feeling displaced in a world with woman who have more equality..

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And they want to mask as it as something else

This guy looked viewers in the face for years and lied and lied. For years on end. Now he wants talk about how they were a propaganda channel; when most of the elderly who have been conned into maga were directly as a result of his actions.

They don’t even care about being obvious ghouls. Like if you turned on the TV and a had an ounce of discernment, you could literally feel the sickening ghoulishness dripping off of him. I used to feel nauseous looking at or listening to him talk. Because it was obvious that he knew what he was saying were malicious lies with the clear intention of being duplicitous towards mentally weaker members of society. To be clear they all know what they are doing.

We really lack decency in America. That’s why people can do stuff like this. They’re not afraid of any real consequences. A decent society would ostracize anyone who intentionally behaves this way.

Carlson then made a screeching noise, and said of his former network, “What they are doing is what they always do, which is just turning up the propaganda hose, to full blast, and just trying to knock elderly Fox viewers off their feet

IjeBos:
2 thing I find insane about your posts.

1.) That you woke up to lie and spread disinformation about the assassination of 2 political leaders and near assassination of many others.
2.) That you are probably the least crazy conservative here. That says a lot.

The crazy attempts to rewrite facts before our eyes. This shit is insane.

Trump supporter whose father was an undocumented immigrant (voted for Trump obviously) now her dad is in ICE custody with a terminal illness. Most likely going to die in detention if nothing changes.

Now she’s online crying for help and saying she doesn’t know this is what she voted for. When Trump was rallying on “mass deportations”, she probably held a sign supporting mass deportations as well. Who did she think was going to get deported? It only clicked in her micro brain after it hit her personally.

Now she wants community, connection and humanity. According to her, “No one deserves to be separated from their family at a time like this”. She never gave a thought to the children being separated from their families. The 2 year old and other children who died in ICE custody. She was probably online then arguing like these trolls are doing here in favor of a demented despot. She clapped when they said empathy is a sin and said “yes that’s my party”.

There’s a special hell for people who can’t empathize with any situation unless it personally affects them.
I might have some sympathy for the sick old dude but zero for her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNvDe-6ZlUE?si=JVquoBo-SAeQUxGE

Despite the actions of the terrorist Trump supporter who sought to instill fear in the hearts of Minnesotans, they still showed up in great numbers against Trump.

He got carried away and forgot no one actually likes him

IjeBos:
It was bad.
Like my boys and I walking down the street on a Sat afternoon.
Trump has to be fuming now.

The lack of any planning and competence in anything they do embarrasses the US again.

No Kings Day San Francisco.

Americans loathe him. When Elon is no longer afraid of consequences for his part in this farce foisted on us, he will confess what actually happened.

1899Milan:
You cannot be celebrating such significant milestone and just come nonchalant....give onlookers something to remember, something to mull.

Strongest military wey no fit cover all grounds...

They did not care nor did they ask for this. This was all Trump

IjeBos:
Yup, he'll pretend as if he never posted it.
And then Basilico will spend a week trying to rehabilitate the lie.

Worse. He will attempt to keep up the lie after this all dies down. Months from now he will be back to say a democrat killed that lawmaker and her husband.

The same way he is still keeping up the lie that trumps attempted “assassination” was by a democrat.

He has no shame about such bold faced lies.

That’s why sometimes ignoring them is not the solution. They spread lies without compunction and someone had to challenge them otherwise their fellow ignoramuses take the lies for fact. It is exhausting though, challenging lie after lie.

IjeBos:
That picture of the Trump parade doesn't do justice to how terrible it really was.

I feel like the soldiers marching out of tune was their own way of protesting since they had no choice but to be there. It’s was truly pathetic

EnlightenedUFO:
I cant stop laughing at that meme 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂🤣🤣😭🤣🤣

Got me crying. This is just the tyrant's version of his USA, I damn well believe this not the true America. And I think basil and his ilks think it too.

The tyrant's version of America is not his ideal! This was week.

5000 people at his parade and 4900 of them were the soldiers. What a magnificent use of tax payer dollars. No fraud or waste to be seen

Every other president would have called a national emergency in lieu of political assassinations and direct the focus to humanity.

But with this tyrant? Nope!

and miss out on a glazing session?

No Kings Day in LA and all over the country. We might have created a public holiday with Trump’s help. Ask not what you can do to massage his ego but what can his ego do for you ?

EnlightenedUFO:
What they ordered on temu vs what they got 😂🤣😭😂

Temu version of North Korean parade.
I don’t know what he thought this was. A dictatorship?

Turns out being led by a weak draft dodging bloat doesn’t inspire confidence.

EnlightenedUFO:
And just like the worm he is, he'll slither away and pretend he didn't try to spread misinformation

Apt

If you don’t fact check these things, they keep pushing them until people start accepting them as facts.

That’s why they have a HUGE problem with fact checking; citing freedom of speech infringement. Freedom of speech that they conveniently forget about when they want to shoot at or arrest reporters/lawmakers for speaking out against their orange deity.

A true worm-like behavior

Chicago against Trump. And it was like this is in other cities as well.

And not only that, the Trump assassination attempt was by a registered republican. But let’s not allow truth get in the way of nairaland argument.

He’s such a disgusting person I’m glad I blocked him.

EnlightenedUFO:
It also shows to me his knowledge of liberal politics is non existent.

Democrats have always been known for bridging the party gap and employing republicans as staff, anyone should know that. They do it better than republicans.

So for him to just say the shooter is liberal because he was appointed by a Democrat Governor is low knowledge of what really works and a serious lack of mental capacity to deduce situations.

This man does nothing but help and he gets conspiracy theories in return. If he wanted to depopulate you guys so badly, why is your population still teeming and bursting at the seams?

Instead y’all praise Elon that would gladly take the food from your mouth so he can become the first ever trillionaire. People really get the lives they deserve is what I’m seeing