₦airaland Forum

forgiveness:
Alakori re wa. This one just dey expose himself. If I talk, you go shame.

forgiveness:
Who are the "we"? I can see you think your tribe is better than others in football. SMH

So, only those delivered for the country, abi?

I don't need to waste my time with this.

lovewins:
This is proof again you've missed the point and quite frankly grasping at straws. First, of the names you listed, only Godfrey Oboabona meets the mark. Uche never kicked a ball for Udinese, and Greece and Scotland aren't top 10 leagues in Europe, but that's even besides the point. The overarching point is that the talent pool in the NPFL had so largely depleted there was very little movement of players from the league to top leagues in Europe compared to what was apparent 2 decades plus ago. Citing exceptions (liie you attempted to do without success) wouldn't change this fact even if you could name 4 names.

Why limit the timeline to 12 years?

1. Because I was comparing 2 different periods of the NPFL. I thought that was obvious.

2. More importantly, this covers the period where making the group stage of the champions League became almost impossible. In 12 years we made the group stage just twice.

It makes sense to limit the timeline to this period since the conversation was about drawing parallels between our shoddy performance on the continent and how the talent pool In the NPFL contributes to that.

lloydtruth:
Falconets 1:4 Canada 17
TribaIism and nep0tism don finish this country football kpatakpata.

Spainever:
Gloomy Sunday
Remo walloped by 5 goals to 1 in Abeokuta
Canada walloped our female under 17 by 4 goals to 1. Our football is deteriorating..
It is not the scoreline that bothers me but the way our teams continue to play kick and follow football . The two coaches appear clueless

lovewins:
What exactly isn't true? You're reading to respond bro and not comprehend. Where did I indicate or infer that academies weren't in existence at the time? The point is it wasn't the primary conduit for players to move from Nigeria to Europe like it is today. Can you name any 3 players that has moved directly from the NPFL to Europe's top 10 league in the last 12 years? Isn't that indicative of the absence of top level talent in the system compared to 20+ years ago?

lovewins:
What exactly isn't true? You're reading to respond bro and not comprehend. Where did I indicate or infer that academies weren't in existence at the time? The point is it wasn't the primary conduit for players to move from Nigeria to Europe like it is today. Can you name any 3 players that has moved directly from the NPFL to Europe's top 10 league in the last 12 years? Isn't that indicative of the absence of top level talent in the system compared to 20+ years ago?

Cocony:
Not true. Academies have been in existence side by side the Nigerian League. So countering for the sake of pointing at academies is not tenable here.Whilst someone like Obafemi Martins made it from FC Ebedei to Europe directly,An Obinna Nwaneri made it to the Swiss League from Enyimba as well.
Talent scouting is not age restricted as oneight be spotted at 24 away from the youth cadre limits and still establish themselves in the National Team and there are sufficient examples.

lovewins:
The problem isn't talent discovery, I'll even argue we have better tools at discovering talent today than we did 20 years ago. What has changed really is the business of football on Nigeria which sadly doesn't favour the Nigerian league.

2 decades ago, the pipeline for talented players from Nigeria to realize their dreams to play in Europe was primarily through the Nigerian league so it makes sense for that to reflect on the quality displayed at the continent as the best we have to offer often featured in the league. Vincent Enyeama, Obonna Nsofor, Christian Obodo, Ozaze Odewinge, Yakubu Aiyegbeni, Taiye Taiwo, Echiejile, Brown Ideye are a few examples of players who got scouted from the NPFL.

That sadly isn't the case today as the business model is tilted significantly to academies. The vast majority of talents not go through academies to Europe. In the last decade, Stephen Odey is the only name that comes to mind as someone who moved from the NPFL to Europe's top 10 league. There is no incentive for player agents to leverage the league for their player's visibility anymore. The next cadre of talent who aren't necessarily top but could compete on the continent also have no incentive to stay when they can earn 3-5k US dollars in Tanzania, Iraq, Cyprus etc.

The players you have currently playing in the NPFL are the bottom end of the talent pool. They sadly can't compete with the rest of Africa.

9JAMac10:
As at this moment please we don’t need any home based players in the squad right now. Please let go beg all the diaspora born Nigerians to come play for the national team because our league is beyond tatters . 5-1 Loss at home hahaha

UncleHaba22:
Nigeria league is way too poor

Who's watching the mamelodi sundowns Vs remo game

Remo can't even put up a fight

Remo stars might be good oo
But the quality of the league will affect them

Nigeria premier football league is on a very big decline

Amedino99:
A pathetic, miserable, annoying display of football by a supposed football club team. The gulf in quality is so freaking wide my God!!!

9JAMac10:
Watching the Nigerian league champions get rattled and bamboozled on home soil. Since the days of Enyimba no Nigerian team has done well in the champions league

Ragingthunder:
still injured

123jamessmith:
We have still not gotten good deputy for Victor oshimen. Paul onuachu is doing very well in turkey, he should be one of our strikers as we move forward.

semid4lyfe:
Excellent. How about Bright Osayi and Fisayo Dele Bashiru?

Sugarboyy:
Remember, Ajibade won the MVP recently and Oshola can be said to be the greatest Nigeria female footballer, even though personally I would rate Mercy Akhide ahead of him.
Also, thankfully, Osimhen, Ikpeba and Ighalo are from Edo State. Chukwueze shouldn't be in this list

Cocony:
We can reel out our Gold,Silver and Bronze winning teams in male and female football and it resonates that names that sound like Victor Osimhen, Odion Ighalo, Chukwueze, Esther Okoronkwo, Perpetual Nkwocha, Kanu Nwankwo, Victor Ikpeba etc are mostly the ones delivering the goods for the country in football.

comodo:
My bro, the unseen rule in Yeking era was always pass to Yeking. If you fail to pass to him, you will be dropped. Ask Siaone. If lookman and Simon had existed in that era. They will be permanent bench warmers or may not be in the team at all. If the era of the 2 players were to be switched, Yekini will suffer in this era. QED. Yekini was a cock and shoot with precision player. Pls don't make it look like he scores 4 goals like water. He only achieved it once and that's against Burkinafaso. And guess who was giving him the assists.

ChrisKels:
Onuachu is outscoring Osimhen in the same league and no one is moved. Even MkpuOgaliga(Idenna) isn't complaining.

Imagine, if the name wasn't Onuachu but Awoniyi, one tribal bigot would have been here displaying his madness.

brain54:
Because SE play at the playoffs...?

This is a mediocre performance at best.

The nff should stop justifying mediocrity!

realpoacher:
Use this table as guide when discussing the performance of Nigeria and other African teams at the world cup

ChrisKels:
Onuachu is outscoring Osimhen in the same league and no one is moved. Even MkpuOgaliga(Idenna) isn't complaining.

Imagine, if the name wasn't Onuachu but Awoniyi, one tribal bigot would have been here displaying his madness.

Mujtahida:
No African team performs consistently.
Nigeria blazed in 94 and got to the second round and since then has been stuck on the second floor.

Cameroon, Senegal, Ghana and recently Morocco have reached the Semi finals one time each.

But I do believe that we will perform very well this time around.

forgiveness:
Are you objective?

Don't deceive yourself.

9JAMac10:
Oga club soccer is different from international duty. Since that hat trick what has he done that’s exemplary. Lookman is not indispensable but Osimhen is.

forgiveness:
Dey deceive yourself.

elyte89:
Bro let’s be realistic when. Making some points ,we re not Brazil 🇧🇷 or Argentina 🇦🇷 where we can boldly say we av superstars dt can replace each oda easily in the team

Will u have a lookman (African best in ur team) and bench him as a coach ? Let’s be sincere .i am not saying chelle is perfect ,but in dt Nigerian 🇳🇬 team two players are practically untouchable even when not match fit ..wc is osimhen and lookman