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r231:
But thats what I said earlier. . . .

He knows how to market his brand

Ermmmm what miracle did he do doh cus i didn't see non

Odunnu:
This is the very last time i'll warn you Mr Dayo. The next time you'll call or refer to my President, His Excellency, by those stvpid 'slangs' of yours, I wouldnt take it lightly with you.

Sweetnecta:
@Frosbel: « #166 on: Today at 07:05:43 PM »The rule of the game changes when you die. Enjoyment is heightened if you receive the Mercy of God. Punish will be heightened for those who are in difficulty of fire [the worst kind of life on earth is really paradise compared to the lives of the people in Hell].

Imagine what comfort and security were to a baby in mother's tummy until he comes out and see how vast, the collage of worldly beauty is; the sight and sound, whereas mother's tummy is just what it is; water world.

Paradise is better than earth, if the best of earth is made to take the basic quality of mother's tummy. You can see why the best is yet to come for Muslims.

afam4eva:
Did you notice how the spell checker underlined neighbour but not neighbor? That's a proof.

afam4eva:
We're still no there yet. But you can't deny that we're getting there.

frosbel:
Then how do you explain the 72 wives in the afterlife  

deols:
@ coogar,
wat else qualifies as furnication and is dat d biblical interpretation of it or your personal view?

u are justifying your stereotypical attitude ??  

you are getting it wrong again. DOnt ever think Islam is all about popular opinion.

Wearing the hijab gets me reward from God. it doesnt make me feel more pious than people who dont. It only means they are missing out on that reward and d other benefits of being covered up such as it being your identification as a Muslimah.

Nothing in Islam says u av to get to a particular level of faith before u can wear hijab. if all Muslims were supposed to just be pious on d basis of the mode of dressing or just because they are muslims, d'u think w'd b avn corporal punishments in Islam

afam4eva:
There's a deviation from standard English to American english the world over. Though it's still not used in Academics.

Odunnu:
Nigerians may have made a mistake in Obj but right now, its past tense.
We have GEJ now, how do we collectively and individually help to move this scam of a country called Nigeria forward?

r231:
How, , , , ,

Pls explain further

deols:
its a matter of choice. Nothing at all would make me go for a married man- dat is my choice. some1 else might think differently though

deols:
he didnt copy and paste ds time around

you did not get the point. I know many of you dont know of how Muslims live. U probably are unaware that many Muslims put their wives in different homes. that is what I mean. It is not the separation of leaving matrimony. Living away from them is just to avoid all the possible complications. From the people I know, women who live apart respect each other more.

you can not call dat jeopardy and rather than conclude, u cld av asked how that works. Even a nonMuslim knows anything can happen in marriage. What makes u go into it in the first place is the trust u av in your partner. I dont av one yet, but when I do, it would be with someone of good conscience. someone who wld keep to his words. One of the xteristics of an hypocrite according to Islam is that they keep promises without fulfilling them. A good Muslim wldnt fall into that category and if I would be marrying one, then I av nothing to worry about.

GenBuhari:
The "leader"  is Obasanjo 

He also managed to give away valuable Nigerian land ( Bakassi)

wiped out villages in Odi and in central Nigeria:

Obasanjo devalue Naira from N22=$1  to  a worthless : N135=$1 this is a wreckless 500% devaluation.
This is at a time when we had record high oil prices.

His presidency was a wasted opportunity for the country

deols:
i read some statistics that are making me question dat too

Every one who wants to have s3x, have children(if not adopting) should be married. matter of factly, its d reason many pple are gettn married if they are Godly.

some do really and that is very bad.

frosbel:
I have no intention of becoming a Pastor  

deols:
-No
-No
-Tolerating them would be a last resort. I'll try my feminine manipulative powers to  keep him to myself and if those fail I'll accept and will live separately from the other women.

But u need to know also that You are allowed in Islam to discuss certain things with the man u'r going to marry before undergoing it and pre nuptials are allowed. You can include what you wouldnt take in such a pre nuptial. Many people are ignorant of it though.

IbroSaunks:
jazak,
@coogar, u said 'must everyone marry'? what about someone that wants to? what does she do if she doesn't get to be someones first?what if marriage brings her happiness?

the truth is, no lady wants to b seconded. i heard this in a lecture (really didn't want to bring religion into this again but, ): two Muslim women, one was new and the other had been practicing a while, the latter told  the first that if she didn't find a husband (she was single) before the end of the year, she was willing to share hers. the first is touched, she eventually found.
now one can't say the latter wanted a second. but some people r mature enough to push their personal feelings aside for greater good.

ok here's an advantage. what happens when a monogamous mans wife is really ill and can't help as normal, and say the guy is very busy, the second wife fills in if he had one, else na to go buy tomato and wash him wife cloth!

frosbel:
Let us look at God's standards.

Genesis 2:23,24 [/b]says that “a man is to leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife.” God did NOT say that man was to be joined to his “wives.”  He said that man was to be joined to his “wife.” That is one and only one!

[b]Paul compares the husband and wife to Christ and the church:  “For the husband is the head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church, ”  (Ephesian 5:23).  In Ephesians 1:22,23 we are told that the church is the body of Christ.  There is only one body (Ephesians 4:4) so there is only one church.  A man can have as many wives as Christ has churches.  Christ has only one church so a man can have only one wife.  Nowhere does the Bible speak of a man (one) being over wives (many) and that being right with God.

Matthew 19:3-9 speaks about divorce.  Jesus Christ shows that God never wanted man (or woman) to divorce.  The same is true with polygamy.  God does NOT want a man to have more than one wife.  Jesus said that “a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.”  Jesus spoke of one man and one woman marrying.  He said that marriage is made up of one man and one woman.  The two make one flesh.  When a man has more than one wife he is sinning.  God hates sin.

In 1 Timothy 3:2 we are told that an elder MUST be the husband of ONE WIFE.   Why not two or more?  If it is a good practice, then why should not a church leader be a polygamist?  The reason is that God does NOT want that kind of a marriage.  Those who practice polygamy are sinning in God’s eyes.  They cannot be church leaders nor church members.

Let us notice some problems with polygamy in the Bible. First, it causes strife and jealousy.   We  see it in the lives of those who practice it today.  Joseph was sold into Egyptian slavery by his brothers because of jealousy from a polygamist marriage.  Second, no man can be a proper husband by being a polygamist.  Third, he can’t be a proper father as God intended.  If a man has many children how can he be a father who brings them up “in the training and admonition of the Lord”  (Ephesians 6:4)?  Fourth, polygamy causes a man to go away from God rather than closer to God.  We should do nothing that causes us to go away from God.  Fifth, it makes man master over woman.  God never intended that in marriage.   Man is to be the head of the wife and family.  God said that a man is to love his wife as Christ loved the church (Ephesians 5).  Christ died for the church.   A man must be willing to die for his wife.  Is  a polygamist going do that?  I doubt it.  His main concern is himself.  He wants to be the “big” man.  He thinks that by having many wives he is that “big” man.

What must a polygamist do if he wants to become a Christian?  First, he must realize that he is a lost sinner.  He then must BELIEVE in Jesus Christ as the Son of God (Mark 16:16).  Following his belief in Christ, he must REPENT  (Acts 2:38).   That means he must get rid of all sin in his life.  In his marriage, he must get rid of all his “wives” but the first one.  After repenting, he must CONFESS his faith in Christ as the Son of God (Romans 10:10).  He is now ready for BAPTISM.  This baptism is a burial in water (Romans 6:3,4).  It is for the forgiveness of sins (Acts 2:38).  This is what everyone has to do to become a Christian.  Have you done these things?   If not, you are not a Christian.  If we can help you to become a Christian, please write and let us know.

manny4life:
I know right, @Paniki is right, I couldn't agree more with him. I do think American English is restricted to the neighboring North America and that's it. Nigerians don't speak American English; no Nigerian will say pants when it's meant trouser,

deols:
I find that hilarious too and I hate to call any1 d.umb! Lol

IbroSaunks:
@coogar, i thought 'i shake my head in Hebrew' was enough to show it was a joke but its cool, wuda inserted a smiley but that was gettin stale
but i get, seriously. i don't even want to bring religion into this. i hate bringing religion and that wasn't my initial standpoint. the fact remains that we need to open our minds sometimes, look at things from different perspectives, the mind is like a parachute, works well only when its open,

thameamead:
The man who opened a shopping mall and invited the pastor, he told the reporter "when he speaks something happens, when he prophetises something happens. LOL

The part where one of the fake wannabe Pastor said " Pastor Fireman picked me up from the gutter, within 5 months, i had 3 cars, desighner clothes, it like Magic" that was sooooo funny.

The woman that the Pastor cast demons out of, turned out to be his receptionist, it was funny when the reporter asked her if she had recovered, she siad she could not remember.

I really enjoyed the documentary, despite the fact it lasted for 30ominutes but i have to say 98% of Pastors in Nigeria would not have allowed a film crew to follow their every move, the reporter asked to speak to some of them but they declined, so a big thank you to Pastor Fireman and Chris for at least trying to show viewers how they con their congregation.

IbroSaunks:
@coogar, so your too big or knowledgable to be enlightened by me? i shake my head in Hebrew!!

maclatunji:
Nobody is saying Polygamy is easy or perfect but we are saying it is better than the false lives that many Christian women live. Their husbands have 2nd or even 3rd wives in reality and they are burying their heads in the sand like Ostriches thinking:"As long as I don't see them or know the other Children, I and my children will be okay." The man passes and on the day of burial the reality dawns on them with the other concubines/wives turning up at the funeral with kids that look like copies of their late husband, claiming all their "entitlements." Isn't that just silly?

deols:
there are many options. What if they live in different houses??

you are educated bro. What statistics are u talking about. there are about 1.5 billion Muslims in d world. Stop judging by Nigerian Muslims. Thats like Using Nigeria as the yardstick for development in the world. Generally, Nigerians have the tendency to either over do or under do things. .hope u get my point. Arab Muslims do not practice it as much as Nigerians do. It is something rooted in our culture. How do u think Yorubas see a man who has many women, culturally.

Again, they may not live together. and conflict dont only come from such quarters. You can have an in-law giving u wahala or a neighbour and there are always ways to avoid them. U'll need to be wise and again its a test. Letsee how tolerant u can be. The more u take her attitude and have patience with her, the more your reward. Think about the ultimate goal, man. It is not easy but possible.

IbroSaunks:
@coogar i no be son ohh, the thing is, the belief system of a Muslim is a tad different from other religions, maybe someday when i don't have a final year project ill enlighten ya!

dyabman:
I'm loving it now because i believe is learning how its been played, AVB will still take us places

We are waiting on Essien or someone like him in the transfer window aside that nothing is wrong with the team ,

GenBuhari:
This leader presided as several Northern States adopted Sharia Law

deols:
This is what happens when pple are always thinking of this life. A muslim's aim is to attain paradise. You can live a happy life wv another woman married to your husband. I believe that- not because I want a polygamous home But am prepared to make myself a happy woman no matter what life presents.

It is a very big misconception thinking polygamy favors men. A man who doesnt treat his wives equally would be raised half paralyzed. Muslims who truly fear Allah keep away as much as they can, knowing so well it is not an easy task.

Everything is a test and polygamy is one, both to the man and the women involved. A woman can become a kafir in the process of trying to hold on to her man and another woman might attain blessings by treating her co wives and their children well.

IbroSaunks:
@coogar, u don't understand , and to make u do that there's too much explaining to do. lets just leave it as it is matey , :-)

ifyalways:
@Coogar,You'd have to assure me that you can perfrom better than DK before i would consider your application.

afam4eva:
There's been a gradual and steady shift from the conventional English which is Britich by Origin to the modern American English. I think it's getting it's toll on me cos i now spell "Color" instead of "Colour".

Do you guys think American English is taking over?

ifyalways:
Polygamy has been with us Africans and was accepted as a norm till Christianity and Islam was introduced to us.Suddenly,Polygamy became bad,evil and a strange thing.

I have no problem with women that chose to share their men though i can't help but wonder how they cope.

Personally,I can't deal with it so for me,it's Monogamy.

IbroSaunks:
well i hadn't even said anything, but its not all about happiness, some discipline and appropriate-ness is involved too, and if by local u mean basic human nature, i guess ill stay "local"!!!
but still, i don't want to derail the thread, i won't say anything  :-)

IbroSaunks:
must everyone marry are u kidding me? i can't discuss with u again, our beliefs are fundamentally different. sorry

deols:
oh I havent. No, they dont want you to think anything. You assume they do.

I said it once on this forum of the stereotype people have concerning Muslims. Some people wouldnt even have a conversation with you cos your hijab makes them see u as probably dumb or uneducated. I have wowed many people on different occassions and am proud of that. Still, I dont want you to think nothing beyond that am a Muslim- hope u gerrit.

Now, what gives some1 who has himself committed fornication the chance to judge others. You have, does that make it a christian value? that is my point. Never judge Islam by the actions of some Muslims.

mbatuku2:
I kind of like muslim women. They are very generous with the d1ck. So sharing and loving set of humans.

deols:
and just like dat, many of dem lived in the north. Just to prove d hausas wrong they invent lies. Do u care to tell us the brothel u were visiting? and again, can u honestly compare the rate with the one you see in the south??

Point is, the rate is still very less anywhere Islam is practiced. can you honestly tell us you have never committed fornication? and you would be representing christianity by your statement.