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Fickle:
As a mother of 2, I am really dissappointed at the comments ladies here are making. I have shifted away from confrontation but I think the ladies here need to be flogged in the head. Is every story that a man puts up here enough to jump at their defense all the time. As cuddles stated, goldie also agreed what happened to solidarity amongnst women. It is this same attitude that is shown in our daily lives that why women are constantly rendered useless in the society. If all ladies agree that majority of women depend on men for money then it means majority of nairaland ladies are gold diggers no wonder most of you are always online all the time, this is where you make your living off innocent & spotless men with no sin. Which thread has been created to address men and their love for the female reproductive organ or all the heart breaks they have caused. Most ladies are under the shackles of men, I pity you all better wake up and smell the coffee. Fine these things happen but why can't the men take their time to associate with responsible girls or wife material. You can keep blaming ladies because you over stepped your boundaries with high profile ladies.

All of the ladies chanting, I am married. Just pray your uterance does not affect your future, when men see that ladies are testifying that naija ladies are like that, they would flee from you all rendering all of you single for life. Keep scaring your gender. Men have nothing to loose with all their wickerdness. Ladies and their stupidity, God help us all.

As for that precious egg that said naija babes that stay abroad are more decent or have better orientation, you are a big dunce. Most of you can't even wash your stinking pants as washing machine & coins has spoilt your lives. Some of you can't cook, don't have respect for elders and move around like bolos. I had to train my niece how to cook because we want her married out, she could not even boil water. So shut up, decency has nothing to do with location but your own self. keep jonzing. keep washing your dirty gutter to foreigners that read Nland and get a wrong impression about the ladies, making the men look like saints. omo ti o ba gbo oro ni ile, wa ko ni ta. Awon omo ti wan fe jasi, ki ni awon omode yi mo. jeje laye

Jackieugo:
Let them generalize then like they always do on NL. It's just hypocritical that some of these same guys that come on here to complain about our girls will continue to spend money on them in real life. Atleast there are still women with sense and values that won't fall for some sleazy guy throwing money at them.

waladis:
(clear throat) Are you sure it's not the other way round?.

Jackieugo:
Why wouldn't they demand it if they weren't first used to expecting money thrown at them because of their previous guys? Are you trying to say naija girls are brought up to always demand money or what?

Jackieugo:
I completely agree with you OP and I'm glad that you didn't generalize all naija girls. However, I believe some men are just as responsible for creating the current situation that's going on. You've probably seen many threads on here already looking down at independent women and saying we're not "wifey material" just because we choose to be successful. Or threads about rich aristos & married men throwing money at gals all the time, spoiling them completely. . . you get the point  

folahann:
I hope wetin happen to Man utd no go happen here o.

temiade:
@OP. I am a girl, and I absolutely agree with you.
I have just returned into the country myself, and the girls have been
absolutely ridiculous.
I dont understand why these girls have no class and dignity.
It is ok to expect things from a guy who claims to love you but it is classless
to actually demand it. Let the guy show you he cares and do this on his own
terms.

Ibime:
If ninjas wanna be honest, Jones was most culpable last night.

Donbrig:
@OP, you're right, naija babes are the most materialistic in the world. I just returned from naija, my own experience with naija babes was horrible,  One visited me in my hotel and asked me for 85k to buy a hand-bag without any sense of how difficult it is to get 85k in naija. I initially had the intention to marry back home, but I have seen things from naija girls that made me change my mind. I pity Nigerians abroad who goes home to marry or marry one and dump her in Nigeria with kids,  Many guys abroad are not even responsible for those kids naija babes are carrying for them. More than half of  naija babes are already a waste product that can never be re-circled.

dayokanu:
Ok So we didnt beat man Utd we played a draw and guess who progressed?

dayokanu:
That you are demented is an open secret.
When Bayern beat Man Utd in April 2010 were you brain dead at that time?

dayokanu:
If only you pay more attention to football you wont be goofing all over the www. How many times do I have to correct you in a week.

How can someone who has been following footie for as long as you claim say City is our fifth game?

The return leg of the second group matches are usually played last since time IMMEMORIAL. You can stake any amount on this cos I am tired of spoonfeeding you on European football  

Bayern has lost at the Allianz this season yet EPL joint table toppers couldnt get a decent shot at goal, What a shame to the entire EPL.

Do they need to play any top team to be current table topers? The same team that is scaring every EPL team shitless and even scored 2 vs Manure? couldnt break down Van Buyten?

I thought you and other EPL analysts said our clean sheet record would be dented vs Man City?

dayokanu:
We have done our own part by whooping comprehensively EPL top team, If they dont qualify is not our problem.
By the time we go to Etihad stadium we could be on 15 points.

The Allianz was too hot for the EPL table toppers that the captain refused to be part of the embarrasment.
Seriously, How did that City manage it to the top of the EPL

Where were the Aguero, Dzeko, Nasri, Silva, Kolo, Yaya that was screwing all defences in England.
How could a team that has scored Gazillion numbers of goals vs EPL teams not manage a decent attempt on Neuers goal

Another clean sheet vs EPLs finest even with Van Buyten in defence. That is a phocking disgrace

chamotex:
Valencia - I cant even remember anything he did right.
Fabio - he was light-weight throughout.

Defensively, we didn't perform.
We mustn't defend like that against Norwich.

dayokanu:
return leg in the group stage would mean the last match by that time Bayern would have qualified and sit comfortably on the top of the group

Hence we can afford to send in Alaba, petersen, Usami and our teenage boyz to do the damage .

You mean it was expected for EPL table toppers to be that pathetic? That has to be bayerns easiest game this season

chamotex:
One average performance and people are already pointing fingers and laying blames

Why are people attacking Ando and Rio for last nights game?
So cos Rio was the most experienced defender on duty, he should take all the blame? Common now guys.
Yes, we threw the game away and we are all disappointed but I dont buy this unfair criticism labelled at the wrong guys mostly.

Rio was actually our best defender last night . . . or which other defender had a better game than Rio?

And I'm still scratching my head on what Ando did wrong in the match also . . . was it his fault Fergie didn't sign a decent CM.
Or what other option do we have? . . . . maybe we should bring Gibson back then or the inexperienced Pogba maybe y'all will be happy.

The team got complacent . . . . simple! And I dare say that result and the way things happened was a one-off. (Going 2 nil up and conceding 3).
The most important lesson is for the players to buckle up and learn from it.
Putting the blame on Rio and Ando is actually unfair.

dayokanu:
Mario Gomez silences another English club

This is the EPL table toppers? I am shocked

dayokanu:
This is embarassing.  How can anyone evaluate pass completion rate without knowing the total number of passes made and The number of succesful ones
There is no way you can evaluate pass completion rate without knowing the total number of passes
Pass completion rate = (Succesful passes/ Total Passes)%
which Arithmetic model can you use to evaluate the number of percentage of white books in a shelf without knowing the total number of books?

The stats provided shows that Drogba has more assists than Torres which means he makes better decisions with the ball than Torres

dayokanu:
Could be anyone.

But definitely not teammates positioned to score. Could be Dirk Kuyt on the corner flag or Lucas leiva who isnt positioned to score

While Drogba looks for the best positioned guy to pass to.

dayokanu:
The succesful pass are just too dodgy to measure a player with.

Terry and Ivanovic exchange 5 passes in between them thats a succesful pass,

I bet Denilson and Mikel would be tops in amount of succesfull passes yet they are the worst players in their respective teams.

Succesful passes: Can we have stats for Denilson vs Fabregas and Song? or Mikel vs Essien and Lampard

debosky:
@ Nateevs

I think you've moved away from your original proposition. . . .as I understood it, you were arguing that Torres does more for the team. The stats don't bear this out when we look beyond overall passing. As cases like Denilson have shown, the sheer volume of completed passes may not be a good measure of a player's team contribution.

Yes Torres has scored more goals than Drog, but is much poorer when it comes to assists.
If Drogba is creating more goals (i.e. assists) than Torres, then he is a more productive team player than Torres.

If we take into consideration your argument about Torres playing for a lesser side compared to DD, we may be able to determine who is a better team player provided statistics about chance creation are available.
Do you know if such stats are available  - i.e. chances created by both players to facilitate a comparison?

debosky:
Torres' upbringing better than Drogba's

nateevs:
In the 09/10 season, Drogba made 763 passes. - Suc 430, Unsuc 333. . . . 43% unsuccessful pass rate.
In the 09/10 season, Torres made 416 passes. - Suc 272, Unsuc 144. . . . . . . 34% unsuccessful pass rate.

dayokanu:
What are succesful passes? Someone has more assist and you are still on this succesful Denilson-Mikel passes?

Can you tell us how many penalties Drogba took? ARe you also forgetting that Torres played more games in those 4 yrs than Drogba?

debosky:
And Eboue has now become a world class RB, playing at the dizzying heights in Turkey.

He was disgraced so much he had to foul Kuyt in the box in the 95th minute to show us all he learned his lesson.

Honestly 4uller. . . .you deserve a GCON award for this discovery.

nateevs:
Dude. I will not go on arguing like you do. I will concede to Drogba having more assists than Torres.
That said, it is the only thing Drogba has on Torres. Only thing. Assists sometimes can be overrated.

Torres makes more successful passes than Drogba and Torres has outscored Drogba in the league 58 to 53 goals.
All Torres' goals come from open play. No penalties and no free kicks. Torres is a pure striker. Not saying that Drogba isn't.
Therefore I can conclude that potentially Torres is a better team player than Drogba.

What next?

dayokanu:
How many games did Lampard get substituted and how many penaties did Drogba score for Chelsea

Ibime:
I've said many times that Alonso and Mascherano is as good as anything in their position. This is during Gerrard vs Lampard debates. Liverpool midfield was equivalent to Chelsea midfield jor!

Now the excuse is that Torres wasn't playing with assist King (Lampard). Well Torres is now playing with assist King and does not like the kind of chances Lamps creates. Mind you regardless of Lamps poor form, he was still top of chances created with 14 before last weekend (Ashley Young second with 11). That means maybe Torres would not have scored even with assist King.

Nwaanyi muta ite ofe mmiri mmiri, di ya amuta ipi utara aka were suru ofe
(If a woman decides to make the soup watery, the husband will learn to dent the fufu before dipping it into the soup).

Torres could not dent his fufu to eat Lampard's soup so I don't think he would have done better than DD even if he was at Chelsea.

dayokanu:
The figures I gave you were strictly from EPL games not Carling, not FA cup and not Champions league. So any other point?

Goals + assist Drogba is miles ahead of Torres.

You can deduct Dtogbas penalties if you have the figures. I am still certain he would bag more points cos Lampard is the 1st choice penalty taker for Chelsea

dayokanu:
Torres had a more priviledged background

Torres grew up in an academy and his parents introduced him to football at the age of 5 in a proper academy

Drogba probably saw a proper football field at the age of 15. I read that he actually started off as a defender.

At the same age of 15 Torres was already representing Spain

We can say that if Drogba has the proper environment Torres had he would have been wayyy better despite the bad background he is still better than Torres.

Between age 23- 27 actually within 2 yrs Drogba went from an $80,000 striker to a $24m Striker and the best striker in the whole of Europe in 2004.

Anyone who followed marseille in 2004 like I did would know that.

dayokanu:
DIDIER DROGBA GOALS + ASSIST 2007/2008 till date (53 + 38 =91)  Appearances 114

DIMITAR BERBATOV GOALS + ASSIST 2007/2008 till date (56 + 32 = 88) Apperances 135

WAYNE ROONEY  GOALS + ASSIST 2007/2008 till date (52 + 37 = 89) Appearances 120

FERNANDO TORRES GOALS + ASSIST 2007/2008 till date (66 + 18 = 84) Appearances 122

http://www.premierleague.com

Drogba that doesnt contribute to team play has 38 assists in 4 seasons while Torres that contribute to team play has less than half.

Trash talk comes in different way and I think nateevs has carved a niche for himself in senseless argument

Not minding the fact that Drogba is 4-5yrs older than Torres and his performance would only decline from now.

The period in consideration Drogba was between age 29-33 (When attacking players are in decline) and Torres was 23-27yrs (The age where strikers are at their peak)

Drogba goals + assists per game ratio is 0.8 While that of Torres is 0.7.

dayokanu:
Show me one top class striker who has never been top striker in any league for almost a decade of pro soccer.

Show me a striker who has to be stuck to the bench for his team to win the World cup

Only example is Fernando Torres
How can one play ahead of Xavi and Iniesta and still turn in such horrible numbers

El Guapo:
[color=#0066ff]Disagreed! Primarily the role of a CF is to score goals not get involved in teamwork though that doesnt mean he should turn to be a shyte statue on the pitch.

Torres has always been a great striker right frm his days at Calderon, recked defenses on his coming to Anfield {Ask Vidic more on this}, so putting up a comparison of any sort of him n DD doesnt to me make any sense!

DD just like everyother african has got the energy to put up team workrate that could be found missing in El nino but on a good day he aint Skillful and Clinical as ma Madrid bruva![/color]