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[quote author=Mr_TA link=topic=716327.msg9281016#msg9281016 date=1317820885] De Gea

Jones        Rio         Evans         Evra


      Carrick             Anderson

 
   Nani                Giggs               Young

                      Rooney

Is another possibility. Unlikely Cleverley will be ready to play such a highly charged encounter and Fletcher is still suffering from AIDS/HIV virus.
Vidic also has no chance of playing this as his comeback game. We dont have a choice but to use Evans there depending how well Smalling is doing fitness wise. Anfield is not somewhere we play well recently so fingers crossed really.[/quote]there's everything wrong with that line up. cleverley/vidic/smalling have 2 weeks before we go to anfield. fergie would be silly to play evans and giggs in that high octane match. our strongest line-up for liverpool is. . . .

-----------------de gea-----------------
smalling----jones-----vidic-------evra
nani-----cleverley---anderson---young
--------chicharito------rooney-----------

in the absence of cleverley. . . . .

-----------back five-------------
------carrick-----anderson----
--------------js park-------------
nani--------rooney------young

musKeeto:
Hahaaa, about a billion songs?

Menh, you need to slow down on the Apple hype,

We're talking about PHONE capabilities not MUSIC PLAYER capabilities,

about a billion songs.
apple have a store in virtually every country now.
take a stroll on the stores from iraq to malaysia to australia to brazil to kenya.

musKeeto:
iphone's os and simplicity keeps it above the rest,

for those really interested in performance and 'freedom' on a machine (e.g transferring music through bluetooth, do android especially s2,

No phone compares right now,

Stop reading apple biased reviews,

not only the os!
apple's music store and the apps store keep their products above the rest.
with 1 billion apps and a billion songs in store - apple is number one!

debosky:
@ Sharon
In its simplest form, Diaby scores more goals per minute than Anderson - draw your conclusions accordingly.

just like i thought, you have displayed the mannerisms of a billy goat.
contribution per minute is goals + assists. diaby - 3284/15 = 219 per min.
anderson - 2022/10 = 202 per min.

anderson is more likely to contribute a goal than diaby!

As I also told you (without seeing the stats) Ando is clearly far above when it comes to shots off target.

same as cristiano ronaldo! he has the highest shots off target in the whole of europe!

In pass completion, goals per minute and shots on target, Diaby trumps Anderson - it's pretty clear who is the better player. Despite Ando playing for a better team Diaby outperforms him on almost all the measures.

most arsenal players have high pass completion - that is the way they play! meaningless 2-3 yard passes in their own half for 90 mins will always d[i]o[/i]pe up the possession stats. contribution per minute, anderson is far more effective. and we are talking about diaby who sometimes play on the flanks for arsenal to anderson who's been strictly played as a central midfielder.

debosky, give up - diaby cannot clean anderson's boot!

norrisman:
Please tell me you are joking! There are many native and market android apps that do the things you listed above and more! LWKMD

can you list those phones and what the apps are called?

tboy1:
Only thing i thought would be added was ability to use hdmi cables directly instead of using the Apple Digital AV Adapter. IMO Siri & the 1080p HD video recording are definitely the best features on the iPhone 4S

i am so excited and thrilled by siri!
maybe i should do the queue thing on the launch date on oxford circus.

montelik:
EA Sports Player Performance Index Brazilian Anderson has shown signs of fulfilling his promise, ranking sixth overall in the Index, completing 123 passes in his opponents’ half, which works out as one every four minutes 14 seconds. Demonstrating the all-round game the 22-year-old is now developing, Anderson has won 78 per cent of tackles he entered into and made five interceptions.

anderson - the soul of the united team!

debosky:
You're right  - Anderson is gold standard shyte.

he has started every league game for man utd this term. i doubt diaby would make man utd's bench.

Diaby has more tactical nous in his close cropped hair than in Ando's lice infested locks.

and yet he has won nothing.

I defer to you on stats so please provide them - I am reliably informed your middle name is opta_sharon .

diaby
8 goals, 7 assists, 41 key passes, 20 shots on target, 18 shots off target, 1886/2212 = 85% pass completion, 45 apps, 3284 mins

anderson
4 goals, 6 assists, 35 key passes, 13 shots on target, 16 shots off target, 1386/1690 = 82% pass completion, 39 apps, 2022 mins

now calculate their contribution per minute and get back to me!

debosky:
They both play in the midfield, are both supposed to be energetic CMs and both play in the EPL - why not compare them?

there's no basis for any comparison - anderson is gold, diaby is a donkey!

Diaby is miles better than Anderson - if not for his injuries (broken ankle) he would have made far more progress now. Besides, Ando's contributions to those title wins are so miniscule that if your one-legged grandma played for Utd in that period she'd have a better performance than Anderson.

which yeye injuries would have made diaby progress? diaby is a liability to his own parents and his football club. a donkey of a footballer.
no tactical nous, no football brains, nada. he's the worst player under wenger!

Besides, what measure of individual performance does Anderson trump Diaby in? Is it on goals scored? Tackles won? The only area Anderson trumps Diaby is on shots of target. . . .heck no one in the world of football trumps Anderson on that stat.

anderson has been miles better - the only issue is that diaby has copped more minutes on the pitch than ando but if we calculate what dey do per minute, it's a no brainer. if you are up to the challenge, print their stats and letz see who's the king!

debosky:
The midfielder at Arsenal most comparable to Anderson is Diaby - do you see Wenger trying to build his team around him? Arsene only tries to build his team around world class players like Henry or Cesc or the likes, not perennial wastepipes like Anderson whose main contribution to Utd is paying Sharon's school fees.

only a donkey-brain like yourself would compare anderson to diaby!

what's the similarity? a beanpole with no magnitude and no direction like diaby shouldn't even be a player - and you have the chutzpah to compare him to anderson who has won 3 league titles and featured in 2 champions league finals winning one of them?

deborah, is there something wrong with you upstairs?

donspony:
lol. Old tech.

Google voice already existed. Vlingo app also does same thing. I have it on my phone, Didn't blow my mind away.

You'll use it for a few days and never use it again. Trust me.

hehe. . . . .google voice me arse!

you mean samsung galaxy can also take dictation? convert words spoken into text messages?
you mean samsung galaxy can take orders like - tell donspony i am running late - and siri writes it in text and sends it to you?

come on - apple is god!

donspony:
Pfft. All I see there is better camera  and no more.

1080p recording - Check
Dual core - check
Every other gimmick - check
Look up the features for sgs2. The old Apple was about futuristic now they rehash new wine in old bottle and Apple crowds are dancing palongo.

Upcoming releases before Xmas includes quad core phones with some already with 3d features and hdmi outputs to tv.
Already to be released are phones to displace the iPhone's screen resolutions. So what is ground breaking with 4s even as Apple's shares are down 4% after the announcement.

sheer ignorance!

you probably haven't heard about the artificial intelligence in the iphone 4s called siri.

it will blow your mind away!
read and learn about it.

tell her to eff off - if she wants to leave, let her leave!
she wants to put a marker on you. . . .

but having said that, if you plan to marry her, then you can yield to her crazy demand!

donspony:
^^^ Out of this world??

Galaxy S2 anyone.

read this. . . . . . . http://www.t3.com/features/apple-iphone-4s-vs-samsung-galaxy-s2

let's even ignore the billions of apps in the app store for itunes!

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it's the iphone 4s.
no one knows whether iphone 5 would launch this month yet. i watched the launching and this new phone is just out of this world. it works with the same processor as the ipad! but the price is

i'm not sure yet if i am getting this in 10 days time when it's released in the shops.

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it's the iphone 4s.
no one knows whether iphone 5 would launch this month yet. i watched the launching and this new phone is just out of this world. it works with the same processor as the ipad! but the price is

i'm not sure yet if i am getting this in 10 days time when it's released in the shops.

claremont:
I wouldn't mind dating a lady that is "high maintenance", so long as she pays for her high tastes herself. No problem there, problem will only arise if/when she starts to bestow upon me a financial onus I don't have.

they are the easiest to deal with!

4llerbuntu:
ok. Nuff said.

i hope pple wont be scrambling to delete and modify posts before the end of this season. i will take screenies for posterity.
seems we have some "men who can see tomorrow" here who can tell u how far with next year.

no one here is saying united will win every league game this season - but to think united's form would rot so bad and leave them 15 points behind the league leaders like chelsea had last season is nothing but a pipe dream. i know arsenal fans pray fervently in silence for this to happen but y'all are just praying amiss!

Blazing88:
if a lady is highmaintaince with her money. Its all good. But when she hops from bed to bed in other to b high maintainace then she shld b ashamed of herself and also d gucci bags she carries. Life is more dan dat. God has given us beautiful hair,beautiful skin. Our fathers married our mothers cos of dr characters not looks! so ladies should breathe.!

there's nothing morally wrong when a woman is high maintenance!
her life - her choice. even when she's high maintenance with her money, some men would still complain. dating a woman with high maintenance still requires her man to buy luxury products for her. birthdays, christmas gifts, etc would come and the gnashing of teeth from her man will follow.

StarBoard:
It's the consolation the Arsenal people keep giving themselves after 7 points from 7 games.
When you can only boast of two victories after playing some rubbish teams along the way,you only look to encourage yourself by looking into the past.

Chelsea played Wigan,West Brom,Stoke City,Blackpool in their early games last season.Thier first obstacle was City and they lost
United have played and beaten Arsenal,Tottenham,Chelsea;three of the top5 finishers last season.Add Man City in the shield game and United have beaten all of the teams that finished at the top around them last season.Yet folks want to draw parallels between last season and last.
Some people need a reboot of their brain cells.

to be fair to the gaynners, the knowledgeable ones amongst them won't spew this utter tosh.
this is where you have to respect the kay-pumping, proudly9ja, dr.kit/hannie, eldee, etc. only muppets like dupe, 4llerbuntu and deborah expect united's season to fall apart after match 6.

StarBoard:
***Sigh***
Tell me you ain't making caveats for him already?
Why does it seem you're already making excuses for failure?
Aren't you confident of your boy's abilities?Why does he have to play with a certain type of player to be good?
Explain to me. . .

because football is a team-game especially in the most important area of the pitch where anderson operates: midfield!

this is the department that is responsible for the transition of the ball from the defence to the attack, at the same time - they attack and they must also defend. one player cannot do it alone in that area of the pitch. even roy keane needed scholes and united got destroyed when that partnership was disrupted by adding sebastian veron in the equation! does that make roy keane ordinary? does that make veron ordinary? they are both world class midfielders but the two of them couldn't function together!

4llerbuntu:
hmmn, what is really weird about this season is it could all go bosoms up for this nuccas coming to air their smelly mouths here.

UTD next set of matches are liverpool at anfield and Citeh. by the end of that run quite possibly the myth of the new "barca beating" Utd attack could have well been dispelled.

this time last year the press was lining up to give the trophy to the chavs.
all u opta guys should post the league table this time last year, chelsea was scoring for fun. Utd was drawing games like it was the vogue thing to do.

we all know how it ended. there is a long way to go. KEEP THE FAITH GUNNERS

this time last season, chelsea had:
P7 W6 D0 L1 F21 A2 PTS18 GD+19

chelsea had lost to man city, and arsenal were the only team of quality they thrashed in that run of 7 games.
in united's run of 7 games this season, they have beaten tottenham, arsenal, chelsea

anyone thinking united's season would tumble down like chelsea's last season must shoot the following people dead: fergie, rooney, nani, ashley young, chicharito, vidic, rio, jones, anderson and cleverley! in other words, it's not just going to happen!

StarBoard:
Yawn. . .
Please put your money where your mouth is. . .
If Anderson plays well in those two games,I will personally apologise to Manc fans on this thread.
I wish to heaven he disappoints me,but the signs are not encouraging. . .

this statement is a bit vague. if anderson plays well depends on who partners him in the midfield. a 2-man midfield of anderson and fletcher or anderson are carrick does not bring out his best cos carrick/fletcher are too immobile for a high-energy anderson who loves to pass it and buzz about the pitch. if cleverley gets a starting berth against those 2 teams, united will beat city and liverpool conveniently with anderson bossing gerrard and yaya toure!

Emperoh:
I am waiting to join those that will eat that humble pie. . . . hoping u will eat urs as well
Cleverly with a limited experience and not as much capability (pls stop hyping these English lads) and then Anderson that is switching on and off. . . . . close down Ando's space and u've got him.

experience is overrated! phil jones is english and he's 19!
he's played better than all the experienced non-english defenders at arsenal this season.

anderson switching off/on produces a pattern.
against city in wembley - anderson was subdued in the first half. then fergie substituted carrick for cleverley and the midfield came alive with smart incisive passes and the powerful midfield of city got literally destroyed. anderson needs a mobile partner to function completely. the static play of carrick/fletcher does not suit anderson's style of play in a 2-man midfield!

Emperoh:

Moreso, if both can't deliver the goods when set apart, then i have cause to worry.
We should rate individually as well as together. When playing together, they perform well but apart is another case.
I am yet to see enough games to convince me.

you don't need to worry - you just need a brilliant manager to work out which pair works great
carlos queiroz identified that in 07/08 - the pairing was always anderson/hargreaves for tough away matches. carrick/scholes for the other games!
why does fergie prefer rooney/chicharito partnership to rooney/owen? why does everyone prefer rio/vidic axis to rio/evans?

Emperoh:

However, i acknowledge their workmanship and talent but let's not over-hype the lads.
They've got a long way to go to make them great lads in the League!!

there's no overhype here. i have seen enough of this partnership to have full confidence in them.
they murdered barcelona, man city, arsenal, tottenham, etc. i see no reason why they won't murder city(again) and liverpool.

Orikinla:
A wise guy will date at the level he can afford.

a smart guy will operate in any level!

[quote author=kay_pumpin link=topic=743413.msg9272774#msg9272774 date=1317724100]^^^^
You know what would have happened IF we are leading the league right now?Better believe,all and sundry will be saying the title is not won in October.[/quote]and that would be justified! arsenal have no such precedence!

[quote author=Mr_TA link=topic=716327.msg9273537#msg9273537 date=1317730365]That remains to be seen. They have to prove it over the course of a season ( or most of it) not 2/3 games to be lauded as such really.[/quote]barcelona, man city, tottenham and arsenal! do i need any more proof?

mbulela:
I really did not want to get back ino this discussion (and probably won't still) but the phrase above is worrying.
Did you really type that?

i'm a stats man and the stats prove anderson is our 4th best performer this season and the best central midfielder.
only rooney, nani and ashley young are above him!

StarBoard:
Yawn. . .
Please let's not argue about this.
We're tired of this argument.

we would come back to this argument soon when anderson must have obliterated the midfield of liverpool and man city
y'all humble pies are being prepared - just be ready to heat them when served!

[quote author=Mr_TA link=topic=716327.msg9273148#msg9273148 date=1317727297]This is the lineup I would have gone with, but there is no chance of Baba going with this lineup. mainly because he'll believe we can stretch the Liverpool defense with either Hernandez or Welbeck playing with Rooney. Also Baba overrates our midfield and thinks we can win a midfield battle with anyone in the top 5 teams in the league. He will play 2 in midfield when the reality is that we have the worst central midfield in the top 5 teams.[/quote]not any more with the emergence of anderson/cleverley axis!
if we play those 2 in our midfield, united will beat every team in the division - home or away!

dayokanu:
Bolton played the top teams of the EPL and the probability of losing is higher than winning, Go and check their odds with bookies.

Bolton played man City, Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool in succesion. Their opponents in all these games were stronger on paper. So losing to them is expected

It is extreme case of stupidity to expect otherwise. Well since you have proven to be the most silly individual alive It should be no surprise

stop embarrassing yourself on a public forum.

stoke played 3 of these big boys and they did not lose a single point in those matches.
those teams are stronger on paper than stoke but stoke still held their own!

abeg, i am exhausted. going to bed with a wide grin on my face that dayo has been properly tutored!
goodnight, fellas!

dayokanu:
Nateevs, This is beyond pathetic, Did you read your responses before you post? or you just type away?
What about the part where the players decide to stop the rot and fight back from their many losses?

So in your conclusion since they lost their last 5 games they would be psychologically down and would continue losing , That was why they lost to Chelsea?
If you were a Psychologist by profession You would have been fired long ago.
Nateevs you are a phocking disgrace!!

so explain to us why arsenal players haven't decided yet to stop the rot and fight back from their many losses.
arsenal have only won 3 games in their last 16. arsenal lost against birmingham in the carling cup final and their results continue to get worse!

dayokanu, world's greatest psychologist - can you explain?
i mean, if you don't believe football is 50% psychology(mental strength) then you are the biggest ninny on the planet!

dayokanu:
That would have made sense if Chelsea had only played Stokes and Bolton all season long. Stokes is stronger than Boltom now means Bolton is the weakest in the league

bolton is the weakest chelsea have played (yet)!
how's that difficult to understand? look at the positions of the teams torres played against and spent more minutes on the pitch. . . . .
now compare it to the others where he spent less minutes on the pitch. can you not see a disparity between the two or are you colour blind?

Like the cartoon character superman abi  

silver surfer!

You mean Opta now distributes intelligence?. No be today I don dey school you European football on this pages.

opta produces stats. stats then become facts. facts then win arguments!
school who for european football? like telling me la liga is better than the premier league until i produced raw facts that the premier league is more competitive and have more quality fairly distributed?

The only thing i like about you is that you are a fast learner unlike some.

the only thing i admire about you is that when you lose in argument, you usually don't come back to post again.
but tonight, nateevs has really mopped the public toilet with your thick lips!

nateevs 8-2 dayokanu
nateevs 5-0 ibime!

i don't always agree with nateevs but the negroid is on point tonight.
he's in the best form of his life like mario gomez!

dayokanu:
Stoke got better results vs big teams means Bolton is the Worst team in the league?
This is extreme Brainlessness.

stoke got better results vs big teams means stoke are a tougher opposition than bolton. it simply means your moronic theory about torres' absence last night leading to chelsea doing very well is crass! that is the crux of the issue! chelsea played their softest opponent without torres - it's spastic to build a case around that result to flog torres!

But I am coming to you later, Let me put Nateevs in his place in the comity of muppets and we would take ours to manure thread anyday you are game.

nateevs has beaten you bluish blackish on this topic! what happened before now is not important!

You know I was on ceasefire with you to deal with GAYYners but since they are non issues again you can bring yours to Manure thread so we can continue where we left off in 2008/2009

2008/9? i don't think i remember ever battling you in those years!
but then - bring it! i am not the type to shy away from battles. i am armed, masked and dangerous. . . . .

thanks to opta, i now have all the relevant stats of all the german players in the bundesliga.
i shall nitpick every player you bring up and analyze their stats with a fine comb!

dayokanu:
You have indeed confirmed yourself as the greatest Mor0n on this forum,
When you were christened Omugo Akindindinrin Akindanidani, Little did people know it would have far reaching effect on your life.

dayokanu, you are embarrassing yourself!

Chelsea plays Man Utd, Man City, Liverpool and Arsenal pick 2 points from those games
Wigan play Swansea Liverpool Woves Everton Sunderland pick 3 points from those
Swansea plays Blackburn, Norwich, WBA and Wigan pick 5 points from those games that means

Means amongst those 3 teams Chelsea is the weakest? This is Grade 1 stupidity, I am sure your type would be wanted in all biological labs for studies on inherited and acquired stupid1ty

what is the meaning of the nonsense you typed above?
nateev's point - bolton have no excuses losing that many games against the big boys.
bolton got 0 point against chelsea, 0 against man utd, 0 against arsenal, 0 against liverpool
stoke got 1 point against chelsea, 1 point against man utd [/b]and [b]3 points against liverpool

can you see the common factors as opposed to the dross and brainless example you typed above?

So Stoke is better than Bolton means Bolton is the worst team in the league? a league of 20 teams?

on current form, bolton are the worst team in the league!
the league table never lies unless you believe arsenal are better than man utd and man city(this season)!!

Nateevs did you suddenly develop this stupidity or you have had it all along?
OMG This kind of stupidity cant be available anyhow, You are an endagered specie of how a human can function on negative IQ

i would let nateevs answer this himself.

nateevs:
Stu.pid goat. Have you seen anyone arguing that this is what Bolton performance will look like over the season? Maybe this is what you have at the back of your mind. Arindin!  

It does not matter what teams they played running up to when they played us, what matters is their form coming into the Chelsea game and they lost almost all except the first. Stoke have already played Chelsea, ManU and Liverpool. You know what they got off those games? 5pts. Bolton got Zilch and conceded 11 goals in the same games.
How can they not be the worst team? You like to think you are smarter than you are but you are laying your silly.ity bare in public.

i can actually say united and chelsea were lucky to get a point at the britannia sef!
stoke could have easily won those matches and yet dayokanu is ptyalizing heresy here because he has the backing of the charlatan-in-chief, corpulent ibime.