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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:53pm On May 25, 2015
elampiro:

Even a sheep knows that Van Persie played as a striker 100% throughout the season while Rooney was predominantly a central midfielder.

Again best scorer is not awarded on per minutes, but who scored most goals.
predominantly a central midfielder? from that central midfield, players like aaron ramsey & yaya toure scored 20+ goals per season.

of the 33 games rooney appeared, only 14 of them was in the central midfield. he had 19 games in the forward role & he produced nothing meaningful from that position.

admit it, rooney is wänk!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:43pm On May 25, 2015
sinizia:
Somethings are not worth arguing. Anyone that looks at Rooney's goals return, then compared to how much he's paid and the fact he hardly misses any match and doesn't find that dude as low grade striker, then the person is sentimentally dumb!! It took Rooney 4 seasons to reach the 20-goal mark, something that Lampard achieved with relative ease for many seasons. Something that Kane achieved in his first season, same as Costa. Rooney is over-hyped!! Elampiro is just grasping as straws.
even elampawa knows rooney is overhyped. he's the best england has for a long time, this is why the hype goes through the roof.

however, when you compare him to the elite players of other clubs, rooney falls short. at this stage, i would choose diouf, gomis, benteke & lukaku over rooney.

elampiro:
What is football brain when there is no pace and power/energy to complement it? Maradona had pace and power, Pele had pace and power.
but xavi has no pace & power and yet he's the best central midfielder in the last 8 seasons or thereabout. mention one top team xavi hasn't destroyed in the world.

sinizia:
LOL. He's confused. He keeps exposing himself and Rooney. Rooney will be here and Neymar will Ballon D'or courtesy of his goals. Rooney can't even win EPL top scorer for 10 seasons!! What a shame!!
from 04/05 to 14/15 is 11 seasons @man utd. 11 seasons for a top team and yet rooney cannot win the most coveted prize known to strikers.

while he was here..... RVP, ruud, tevez, berbatov, etc have all won it. rooney is a jack of all trade. he has an idea about everything on the pitch but he is not an expert at anything.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:35pm On May 25, 2015
elampiro:
Forget all these, Xavi came at a wrong time. If Zidane were here he wouldnt win. Messi and Ronaldo dont just score their general play is massive.
that's exactly the point.
xavi has the better football brain than messi & ronaldo put together but he gets ignored cos he doesn't score 300 goals in 280 games. if zidane, nedved, fat ronaldo, etc were around now they wouldn't get near ballon d'or.

football is about goalscoring - messi & ronaldo are the richest footballers in the world. you think it's because they dribble or because they have pace? hell no - it's because scoring hatricks for them is easier than slicing a loaf of bread.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:26pm On May 25, 2015
elampiro:
Goals scored is not a basis for determining how much a player earns or is worth. It has never been never. Izaghi was never a top earner as far as I know. Let Chicharito score above 20 goals every season, he will never be a top earner because of his little contribution to general play.
so why are messi/ronaldo the best players in the world. if they don't score goals, who would rate them? compare xavi who is 100 times better than zidane and yet he has no ballon d'or to his name because messi/ronaldo wouldn't let anyone near that trophy.

When we bought Rooney from Everton, he had just 15 goals in 67 appearances. Yet he was rated very high. Watch a player general play and his overall contribution. When a player like Wayne Rooney adds so much goals and assists, it's a big bonus.
that's the point.....
rooney was 18 then, he had just destroyed the toughest defences in euro 2004 back then & he was by far the most talented teen in europe as at june 2004.

his goal stats @everton didn't matter cos he had done it against some of his best teams in europe. if he didn't break his metatarsal during the competition, england would have gone all the way. he had scored 4 goals in 5 games for england already before his injury.

as a striker, if you are not scoring - you are worthless!

elampiro:
Coogar I am done with you. Go and sleep.
A player that is finished keep being our top scorer. Last season he was our top scorer, top Assists provider. He directly contributed to 27 goals last season.
This season, second in assists, top scorer. When the team starts to fly again, Rooney will score 30+ goals. cheesy
Good night.
he has played the most minutes in the squad, why wouldn't he be the top scorer? can players with less number of minutes outscore the one with gazillion minutes?

rooney
12 goals in 2872 mins
1 goal in every 239 mins

van persie
10 goals in 2111 mins
1 goal in every 211 mins.

van persie still has a better rate of scoring than rooney. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:19pm On May 25, 2015
elampiro:
What level are you referring to? Who makes this levels?
skill level!

So they said he was finished in early part of 2010/2011. From August to December 2010 Rooney scored only 2 goals (a worse record than whatever measure used this season). The whole world wrote him off, and I was one of the few who stood by him, same with Alex Ferguson.
you stood by rooney in 10/11? the dude doesn't even know you. he wasn't finished in 10/11 by the way......he had an injury the previous season that took the soul out of him.

the following season, he was played upfront with welbeck & he started scoring again. but then, he was only 26 then. now he's almost 30. rooney is finished as a number-9!

In the second half of the season, Rooney scored 14 goals including a goal in the UCL final vs Barca. The following season he went on to score 27 EPL goals and over 30 in all competitions.
14 goals in over 30 apps in the second half of that season is piss-poor. his mates are scoring more than the number of games they play.

Van Persie went 10 matches without scoring any goal in 2012/2013 season. Droughts do happen.
he still won the golden boot that season & he scored away goals @anfield, etihad, white hart lane, emirates & stamford bridge. you cannot ask for more.

rooney scored only 1 league goal away from home this season. you can dress it how you want, but that is a disgrace to rooney & his family. 4 goals in 14 apps as a striker is dog awful!

I see Rooney who is still very balanced on the ball and contributing very well. The goals will come next season if he doesn't get injured playing for England or preseason.
rooney is finished!
the sooner you accept this the better for you. he's no longer an elite forward in europe. if we decide to sell him now, we would be lucky to get £15m for him. @30, with no fitness & no technique, i see him retiring in the next 2 seasons at blackpool!
Family › Re: Free The Nip-ple Protest - Eye Candy or Groundbreaking by coogar: 2:36pm On May 25, 2015
pickabeau1: just got to seeing it

see the pervs

"its his knob",
"can I touch it",
"did you see he has long fingers...",
"it goes from here not there...",
"im gonna prod it, im tempted"
tempted to prod! grin
however, men are the monsters. cheesy
Gaming › Re: FIFA 15 Nigeria Fan Thread by coogar: 2:20pm On May 25, 2015
moonraker:
if your ready to loose alot of coins, then go ahead. I wouldnt advise it though. Ultimately, i would say look at the amount of coins your new

team would cost and try to match it up with the sales of your players...
i don't think it would reach.....
the market is so wide open now. i am even seeing people selling RB ronaldo at the minimum price. players are dirt-cheap now & EA will still tax me for selling my top players.

these are my top players....

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:54pm On May 25, 2015
elampiro:
Rooney will be here next season beating whoever is coming as the hired number 9. grin

Go and die for your jelosi of 300k/week.
while his credibility as a striker continues to sink. he's now about 5 levels below messi, ronaldo, costa. grin

elampiro:
Coogar see you at night. Logging out.
Continue your sleepless night and hatred. You dey vex say Falcao don go and Rooney still dey. Should it be like that next season, which I am sure will happen, Coogar go commit suicide oohhh.

Rooney will score 30 goals next season.
timaya has a better chance of winning multiple grammy awards. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:39pm On May 25, 2015
elampiro:
It seems you watch one match and jump into conclusion. Yesterday all our players couldn't control the ball. Di Maria, Young, Mata and Janujaz were the worst. I was wondering if they had commenced their holiday.
rooney has been shyte for 10 weeks!
that's the difference. a striker that has one away goal in the league all season is worthless. don't even try to colour this argument by bringing young & mata to the discourse. rooney is pure w@nk!

Rooney has been head and shoulder above Falcao, RVP, Wilson in ball control and build up play in the number 9. This season.
falcao did better than rooney as a #9 this season.

I know you are angry Rooney has outlived Falcao again. The Falcao you believed at this time last year will send Rooney to his grave even if were to play with injuries. every player out there has always been better than Rooney, now I guess it is Lewandosky. Should he come and go next season you will say Rooney should be dropped for Sturridge. oh I forget u aleady used sturridge and Sterling to rubbish Rooney last season. May be Balotelli. Oh that was in the past too. okay Harry Kane.
1 away goal per season?
the witches of edo state have withdrawn their support from rooney. rooney is a complete liability to himself, never mind man utd. his time is over. at his age, RVP delivered the title for us on a plate. rooney @29 is worse than drogba @37


sinizia:
I've been saying this for the past two seasons that Rooney is overhyped, but Man Utd fans keep shouting me down. Saying i hate Rooney. What's there to hate other than Rooney's overpaid wages which he doesn't merit? Man Utd fans can be sentimental when it comes to Rooney. Rooney can never almost single handedly lead Liverfool like Suarez and Torres did. He's been at Man Utd for over 7 years now and he's yet to match Charlton's goal tally, yet Ronaldo, a winger is soon gonna become Madrid's all time scorer after few seasons. Rooney is over paid and over hyped!!
only moröns are sentimental about rooney.
he has been consistently shyte since the last few weeks of 11/12 season. why do you think fergie went out of his way to purchase RVP?

please don't compare rooney to torres/suarez. he is not in their category at all. what has rooney achieved singlehandedly on his own? each time he's been trusted to lead the line, we have failed to win the league.

yet, they talk about his goal record nearing bobby charlton.....but they won't tell you he joined united @18 years of age and he would soon be 30. that's 12 good years of his youth @ united as a striker. it's a disgrace he hasn't broken that record.
Gaming › Re: FIFA 15 Nigeria Fan Thread by coogar: 12:34pm On May 25, 2015
moonraker:
I swear. i watched a lot of youtubers get multiple TOTS etc Then i run and open up 24k fifa points

and my best player was Jack Shiiiiiiite. What a pile of dump. I want my money back... lol

I have decided to stay far away from packs...
should i cash out on my team?
i am so tempted to sell everyone & build another team from the bundesliga TOTS. i am currently in division 2. what would you advise?
Family › Re: Free The Nip-ple Protest - Eye Candy or Groundbreaking by coogar: 11:47am On May 25, 2015
VictoriaBee:
Why not show your mosquito bite inside your boxer? grin
https://i.imgur.com/RI0sUi4.gif
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:13am On May 25, 2015
parrotibaba:
my point exactly, u don't pay a player €300k per week n he can't even score up to 16 goals per season, I blame Moyes for dis ,I was of d opinion dat we cashed in on him but not to Chelsea...
we are just throwing money into a furnace. rooney cannot 15 league goals as a striker again. it's over for him. he can no longer even do simple things like trapping the ball, passing accurately, completing a 1-2 ball or even shooting on target.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:58am On May 25, 2015
elampiro:
This is another lie from the pit of hell

Falcao celebrated with Rooney after he converted the penalty. After which he was taken off two minutes after Rooney scored. Read the emphasis.

Coogar do you even watch our matches? stats, opta and gif have affected your brain.
falcao didn't touch the ball again in that game till he was subbed off. rooney benefitted from a goal he knew nothing of.

falcao went off, rooney went to the CF role & he got another goal. fact still remains he scored only 1 away goal all season. it's an effing disgrace!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:29am On May 25, 2015
elampiro:
Anyone who doesn't know arithmetic can be pardoned. Yori Yori.
lies will not get you far.

rooney played & scored as a CF against...

•swansea
•QPR
•villa
•spurs

RVP started as the CF against arsenal @ the emirates & when he came off, di maria was our most advanced player with rooney tucking behind.

against sunderland, rooney was an AM/SS.

rooney fired blanks as a CF against.....

•sunderland(away)
•burnley(away)
•swansea(away)
•newcastle(away)

•liverpool(away)
•city(home)
•everton(away)
•crystal palace(away)
•hull(away)

it must also be noted that a striker that has only 1 away league goal all season is a worthless striker. even falcao & RVP scored more than 1 league goal away from home.

any more excuses? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:11am On May 25, 2015
elampiro:
Which kind true talk be this. He has 6 Epl goals as a Centre forward. 6 in 14 epl matches. I listed them and you discounted the penalty in your hatred and wayo plus lies.

in all he has 8 goals as a, cf in all competitions.

if u like keep distorting the facts and truth. you can never take his wages or change his club legend status.

bye.
who dash rooney 6 goals as a centre forward? he has 4!!! your holy-grail reported it as 4. the PL official site has it as 4. wetin remain again?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:05am On May 25, 2015
elampiro:
And look at the gif you brought, anything to rubbish Rooney. All these happen every day in football.

Rooney gave Di Mara a nice assist at Emirate, he missed. Another one he would have scored himself or given to RVP was wrongly ruled offside.

He gave Di Maria two more one vs one in other matches and he missed. RVP missed one too from Rooney fine set up.

Again Spurs what would have been his second goal was wrongly ruled offside. I remember another match he was called back wrongly.

So forget all your negative markings. Anything to rubbish Rooney.

We need a striker but not the way you are saying it.

Bye!
don't get emotional over rooney's inability to perform. he earns £300k/week & he performs like an enyimba forward. he wasn't under pressure at all, how did he let mata drift offside before releasing the ball. it was 2 united players versus one city defender.

a simple outside of the right foot contact with the ball to mata's path was all he needed to do. one touch! however, rooney needed 3 to control the ball & release to a team mate. how do we intend to win the CL with this brainless forward? grin

we need more than a striker....we need 2 strikers. lacazette would be cheap. if we can get lacazette & dybala......bring hernandez back and we are good to go. rooney is wasted now to lead us to the promised land.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:53pm On May 24, 2015
elampiro:
They started together upfront as too strikers. I watched it and the report abounds in the net.

Now you are even saying Rooney scored Within 10 minutes of moving to CF, if your report is to be followed how does this goal from number 10 even? You said he scored after going to number 9.

If we were to tow your fake line it is only one goal you can remove from Rooney goals. hahahahaha
and that is why he has 4 in 14. you said 5 in 12, but it's 4 in 14 apps. 1 minute on the pitch & 97 mins on the pitch = 1 appearance.

the PL website has settled this argument - what they have there is 4-2-3-1, not 4-4-2 as you claim.

any more excuses? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:42pm On May 24, 2015
elampiro:
ooney, 29, reverted to his more favoured role of playing in the striking position against Sunderland at the weekend.
The decision by Van Gaal to play the Man United skipper in the most advanced role was a wise call against Sunderland, as the England international produced two goals to send the Black Cats packing.

Read more at http://www.squawka.com/news/wayne-rooney-im-ready-to-play-up-front-for-man-united-again/316926#rAiqO50miBetkP5q.99
after falcao went off, rooney was moved to the most advanced role. it was the first time he would play there in the league this year. that was what the report was all about. it never said rooney started in the advanced role.

this is how the premier league official website saw the game. grin cheesy

elampawa, i think it's high time you change your statement. grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:28pm On May 24, 2015
elampiro:
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But the penalty incident gave United the chance to score and Rooney, playing in a forward role, made no mistake as he avoided going nine league games without scoring for the first time since joining from Everton in 2004.
falcao was taken off immediately after he won the penalty. that was when rooney went forward. i mean, if falcao wins a penalty & rooney scores from it......you are giving the credits to rooney's starting position?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:25pm On May 24, 2015
rooney isn't good enough to lead the line. apart from his lack of goals upfront, he has lost all his abilities to function properly as a top class centre-forward.

elampawa, take the mata goal assisted by rooney against city as a case study. mata was offside, on another day, that goal would have been disallowed but the question is, why did rooney delay the pass for so long that mata was offside?

https://oi61.tinypic.com/28tl0t5.jpg

daley blind pinged this slide-rule pass to rooney. rooney could see mata's run already. the priority here is one-touch. an intelligent forward would use the outside of his right foot to lay the ball to mata's path, but what did rooney do?

https://oi61.tinypic.com/281cu14.jpg

rooney controlled the ball with his left foot as his first touch. he then made the big titanic ship turn before using his right foot to slap the ball to mata. by the time rooney completed this process, mata was way offside.

https://oi60.tinypic.com/10pyr1j.jpg

if rooney cannot even apply simple technique to create simple assists then he should be demoted. this isn't a one off incident, we always see this big turn to change the ball to his stronger foot in every game these days.

this is the gif in real time....

https://giant.gfycat.com/ThornyUntimelyAdmiralbutterfly.gif
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:08pm On May 24, 2015
elampiro:
lies. we had this argument before. Rooney paired Falcao upfront, in striking position against Sunderland.
and it was a 4-2-3-1 formation.
i produced 30 different links that supported my stance while you disappeared when the heat got too much for you.

Rooney has been better than RVP, Falcao, Wilson in the number 9 in the last eight weeks.
he hasn't been better than them. he's the worst striker in the squad by a distance. there's no way RVP would be as fit as rooney was, get that many minutes upfront & not score plenty of goals.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:01pm On May 24, 2015
elampiro:
It's even 6 EPL goals as a centre forward. 2 FA cu goals as a centre forward. Rooney has 8 goals in 15 appearances in all competitions as a centre forward.

Man United 1 Swansea 2 1 goals
Man United 4 QPR 1 1 goal.
Man Utd 2 - 0 Sunderland 2 goals
Man Utd 1 - 2 Arsenal 1 goal
Man Utd 3 - 0 Tottenham goal 1
Man Utd 3 - 1 Aston Villa goal 1

FA Cup
1 GOAL VS PRESTON
1 GOAL VS ARSENAL
it's 4 in 14.
stop distorting the facts. rooney was in the hole against sunderland behind falcao. how is rooney a centre forward when falcao is on the pitch? where did falcao play? as a winger?


Today was a bad day for everyone except on centre defenders and goalkeeper. Falcao and RV have failed far more than Rooney in the new system. Rooney is more composed on the ball far more than the two.
rooney has been poor since the game against spurs. this is not just a one off performance. it's been a trend now in the last 8 weeks.

elampiro:
This was what you said a year ago. grin
Even early this season many of you called for Jones and Samlling to be sold. Evans, Vamelin and Rojo were supposed to do the job. (I be na Vaseline).
so tell us why jones' contract hasn't been renewed? if not for de gea's girlfriend, his contract woulda been signed. smalling has signed his contract. jones hasn't been offered any deal. all the 3 of them have the same expiry date on their contract.

can't you smell something fishy? grin

Now Jones is benching Rojo on his favourite position- LCB. Jones weakest position amongs all positions he could play. grin
there's no left footed defender available so rojo by rights would take the LB position cos he's left footed. when shaw returns, jones would be going to aston villa. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:51pm On May 24, 2015
elampiro:
Jones and Smalling had same playing time, but Jones is the one blamed for being too injured. Ukwu!!!
jones is going on loan next season. this is why his contract hasn't been signed yet. when otamendi comes, jones career is over. if i were you, i would send him a farewell card.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:46pm On May 24, 2015
elampiro:
That stat is wrong. I have just given you the games Rooney played as a lone striker. 5 goals in 12 games. Then as a centre forward, 6 goals in 13 games- plus the QPR game. He also has assists there to complement.
whoscored stat is wrong & you are right? grin
the stats show rooney bagged a miserable 4 goals in 14 games as a centre forward.


Again, Rooney played in the striking position when our midfield isolated the number 9. The other teams allowed United to do whatever they wanted with the ball in midfield as long as they wouldnt be allowed to find their free in the box. Our number 9 was caught between two centre backs all the time as teams parked the bus against us. This was why none of our strikers could score once we settled into our passing game. The number 9 is the victim of the system.
whenever rooney underperforms, he was isolated. when another striker doesn't score, it's the striker that is shyte. so parking the bus is the reason rooney can't pass accurately, apply a decent first touch, etc?

rooney is a liability.....
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:34pm On May 24, 2015
MrTA:
I do agree with that, I just dont think LvG will agree with you.
we have the money...we are back in europe! if LVG blows this opportunity to build a monster squad, it would cost him his own job. rooney can still do a job a-la-drogba for chelsea!

come on as a sub after the new striker must have completed the task required. he should be the 3rd choice striker at best. we need 2 world class strikers. goal scoring is one of our biggest problems, the defence didn't do badly although we have de gea to thank for that!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:29pm On May 24, 2015
MrTA:
LvG has made Rooney the captain. Do you think we'll have a new captain next season? I'm talking realistically here.
I absolutely do not want to see Rooney as a number 10 or in midfield. I'll be happy to be proved wrong but unless you're advocating Rooney being sold which isnt realistic and wont happen then I dont see how you want to play Rooney next season if you buy a new striker.
LVG demoted van bommel when he saw that he wasn't up to the required material again. if he could take penalty rights away from rooney then you can bet he would relegate him to the bench if he could.

rooney can never win anything for united as the main man. it will never happen. rooney of 6 years ago is so much different from the rooney of this season. he has become united's albatross - a monumental liability!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:24pm On May 24, 2015
raumdeuter:
Tell us which date you want us to count the Hanes from so I can prove to everyone that you're a liar.

Between December 1 or December 25 and resumption of champions League la liga top teams played more games than epl top teams the only exception was Madrid who went for club world cup
you don't have common sense.....
i said the break they had for 3 weeks is the deal breaker. that break is refreshing to their muscles, tissues & what not. the wounded spend much time with the physios & by the time the knockout stage of CL resumes, it's like september for these teams.

do you want me to bring up the injury stats of EPL players in comparison to the other leagues of europe so that your addled-brain can see things more clearly? how can you not see the benefit of a 3-week break for football players?

elampiro:
Lies.
Man Utd 2 - 0 Sunderland 2 goals
Newcastle 0 - 1 Man Utd
Man Utd 1 - 2 Arsenal 1 goal
Man Utd 3 - 0 Tottenham goal 1
Liverpool 1 - 2 Man Utd
Man Utd 3 - 1 Aston Villa goal 1
Man Utd 4 - 2 Man City
Chelsea 1 - 0 Man Utd
Everton 3 - 0 Man Utd
Man Utd 0 - 1 West Brom
C Palace 1 - 2 Man Utd
Hull 0 Man United 0
12 games 5 goals. This is much better than Van Persie who could only return 1 goal in at least 4 matches as a loan striker.
van persie scored 10 goals in 26 apps. rooney scored 4 goals in 14 apps as a centre forward. it's right there in the image.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:11pm On May 24, 2015
raumdeuter:
Which date do you want us to count from

I have shown you that la liga teams play more games than any of the epl teams this season
you are a foolish boy!
the number of games played overall isn't the issue.

team A plays 50 games with no break
team B plays 30 games, went on break for 3 weeks and then played another 30 games.

which of them would be more fatigued? team B is refreshed all over again. their 2nd 30 games would be like they haven't even played all season at all. they are very very fresh!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:05pm On May 24, 2015
raumdeuter:
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Between Xmas day and the day CL started this season

Barca played 13 games, Chelsea played 12, Arsenal 12, Atletico 12, City played 11,

Yet Barca mauled City home and away

MYTH BUSTED next excuse please[/size]
are you an idïot?
la liga closed shop before christmas day. you are a fraud. their last games were 18/20th. how can you count from christmas day when EPL teams were busy playing in the winter. how could barca have played more games when FA cup starts in january for EPL teams & chelsea had a double-legged carling cup semis in between?

you are a pathological liar!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:00pm On May 24, 2015
MrTA:
This is my rationale.
Ideally, I would like a new world class striker but that isnt going to happen because Rooney has to play ( according to LvG). I can only accept Rooney in the starting lineup as a number 9. I dont like it when he plays anywhere else.

For that to happen, RvP knows he must now accept a place on the bench as the sub for Rooney upfront. Wilson either on loan or enters the rotation with either.
standards have dropped!
you mean you still want to see rooney as a number-9 after watching his slow & laboured performance in the last 8 weeks? shocked shocked

LVG has to be a morön to even make any of RVP/rooney a lead striker next season. we won't win a spoon if we don't get a world class striker this summer.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:57pm On May 24, 2015
raumdeuter:
What concerns muller with la liga.
The topic was la liga vs epl and you're talking about muller
so you agree german teams get a free ride in europe with the ridiculous winter break of almost 7 weeks?

I've murdered you already with Stats that shows the winter rest is a myth as far as la liga vs epl teams

Next myth?
you murdered yourself with acute stüpidity
only a fool like you would count the number of games before christmas when it's obvious most of the top leagues run almost the same schedule.

my question is simple....
how many games more do english clubs play before the resumption of the KO stage of the champions league? if it's more than 5 - does common sense not dictate these extra 5 games would have caused fatigue for them unlike their counterparts who are well rested?

how did you graduate from college? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:44pm On May 24, 2015
SailorXY:
MrTA thinks we can win anything with Rooney & RvP leading next season. grin
rooney is finished!

we were told by some people here that had rooney played as the lone striker, we would have scored more goals.

today marked rooney's 14th appearance as a lone striker & he had only 4 league goals to show for it. LVG would have to do something about this situation otherwise rooney would be our gerrard!

he was a liability today. his touches were heavy & his passes were rubbish. even his die-hard fans on RC are all calling for him to be sold immediately to pave way for fresh blood in that attack.

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