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chic2pimp:
Swear down? .
What's your definition of a "Win" or "Loss" btw? So we are clear, when I say win, I am not talking about the individual that has the longest staying power or has it is called the "I no go carry last" Nigerian mentality.

win as in clear win!
like i slaughtered the dude that claimed sanchez scored only 8 goals in his debut season @ barca!

win as in providing empirical evidence that destroys myths that have existed for 4,000 years. i have never lost an argument in my entire life. i can tell you bill gates is from ekiti & i would have proof to support it.

elampiro:
Is it not this stuff that made you put Fabregas and Silva over Hazard? It's misleading you people. You now believe these abstract characters than what you watch. Mourinho confirmed my opinion that Hazard is his best player and the best in the EPL.

silva & cesc are better than hazard, abeg. what do you expect mourinho to say? would he back another player over the player he manages? isn't it the same mourinho that declared ibra better than ronaldo & messi in 2009 when was still at inter? if mourinho is managing us, he would say fellaini is the best player in the world. who takes what mourinho says seriously?

I don't need it. That FIFA 15 that over gave Kagawa marks? Now, stats telling us Young has been shyte while we have actually been praising him.

young has been absolutely brilliant - the most improved player in england. even FIFA acknowledged his improvement with 2 upgrades. something di maria couldn't manage. you also forget the little detail that young was mostly a wingback/full back all season. since he's been playing as a LW, he has been terrific!

elampiro:
We were not in May when we compared Hazard, Silva, Fabregas in CHANCES CREATED earlier in the season. Same thing happened last year at this time when we were comparing Rooney and Mata.

we compared hazard & silva last season. we compared them since hazard arrived & silva always trumps hazard every season. it's no longer worthy a debate. silva shytes on hazard every day of the week.

Okay, Di Maria is better this season? Noted.
This doesn't matter when looking at things over a period. Berba packed his stats in a few matches and won golden boot.

berbatov was brilliant throughout.
even in the games he failed to score, he blessed us with mesmerising skills that no other player has been capable of in the last 10 years.

RVP didnt deserve it. Period. If Suarez weren't suspended, he would have won it followed by Bale. The guys were doing solo runs and dribblings enroute scoring their goals, not just give me chop goals RVP scored.

RVP deserved it 1 billion times....
he has the greatest achievement of any striker in the last 10 seasons in 12/13. if you can score away from home at etihad, stamford bridge, emirates, white hart lane & anfield in one season then you are a demi-god! forget suarez - he was a flat track bully that season scoring against shyte teams of the league & padding up the stats!

So you can now talk stories where there are stats? Interesting!

there's no story
RVP won the golden boot that year - making it a back to back achievement. he justified his price tag. what's the story?

Let's just leave. I think I have made my point on why I brought this topic up.

you have made no point my friend.
RVP did the impossible in one season. for years to come, he would be talked about @ man utd as the man that got sir alex his last & final league title. history will not forget that achievement for decades to come.

elampiro: Moreover, I think that is the problem of many in this thread. That is why there is a mismatch between these guys and I. Most of their arguments are from the experience they get about these players in computer games (FIFA 15, playstations) and statistics. So when we discuss football, there is a conflict between they accepting someone telling about reality and what their observation is of these players in their abstract characters as used in computer games, stats, etc.

your football intelligence would actually quadruple when you play these games. the game is as close to real life than BBC sports. FIFA15 & FIFPRO are in partnership so all the details shared are as accurate as it can be.

what happens in the real world get computed into the game. if a player does well for club this week, he gets an upgrade. the game is not static. it moves with the time, even players with outstanding performance do get MOTM upgrades.

so save up, buy a console as advised & you won't have to rely on goal.com to form your opinion.

chic2pimp:
Are you sure? ..... Undefeated? Really?. Tell another lie abeg

mention one footie argument that i lost since my birth on this forum. just one! if you can find one, i would change my username to serieaisthebest

elampiro:
Is anyone forbidden from making this proper mufc analysis?

don't mind them.....
all they do everyday is moan & whinge about elampiro. as if a supernatural force holds their hands from discussing whatever they want to talk about. 20 different topics can be going on in the threads. nobody here is handcuffed to type what they feel like. i am sick & tired of grown men griping over what people discuss.

it actually sounds homoerötic to me!

elampiro:
* When has period ever being a factor in your previous argument? Season is between August and May. This has always been our basis for assessment.

but we aren't even in may yet, why are you twitching?

* No matter the period you use, I dont even see how Young can be the best this season. Di Maria will still beat him.

where did i say young is the best? i said Young has been the most consistent. he's not had a below average performance since LVG took over in the preseason & that is why he's benching di maria.

di maria has had several highs & many lows. you never know the di maria that would turn up. i can't even reminder the last time he scored a league goal for us.

* Costa scored his goals very early. Harry Kane is scoring late. At the end, no one would ask what time any one of them scored. Whoever scores the highest is the winner. Your point about Di Maria is nil.

it matters when it bores down to opinion.
the only reason van persie didn't win the POTY in 12/13 was because of his little drought he had when he injured himself - he went dry for about 6-7 games & it coincided with the period professional players were voting for PFA awards. you have to pick the moment when you shine through & that has been di maria's problem this season.

he's yet to make FIFA's team of the week this season. fellaini, herrera, mata, rooney, smalling, carrick & de gea have all made it. i think young has even made it twice this season. di maria failed to click when it mattered most but he was so much productive in the first half of the season.

elampiro:
1. Di Maria 48 chances created in 1565 minutes = 32.6 mins per CC

2. Mata 38 chances created 1901 minutes = 50.02 mins per CC

3. Young 25 chances created in 1649 minutes = 65.96 mins per CC.


Coogar, these are the figures. 'Remember stats are facts'. Are you arguing with stats now? Your so much beloved CC?

this means nothing.....
the bulk of di maria's stats are at the start of the season. he has produced very little in recent times.

read my assessment again
i said di maria started so well but he has tailed off since the burglary incident. young & mata have started off where di maria stopped.

crackhaus:
What is there to be adjourned? These judges just like unnecessary work.

Grant the woman her divorce request and let her get to stepping.

So sorry Mr. John, but you can't keep a 21st century woman to yourself if you can't keep it up longer than one-minute.

the hubby said she sleeps around & she's caught her with sassy texts on her phone. perhaps this is why he doesn't want to have sex with her.

the wife is obviously lying. she doesn't even know the difference between premature ejäculation and low spêrm count. she just wanted to tarnish the manhood of her hubby to get her way.

i agree with you though, the best way is for them to go their separate ways. they were never meant to be & it's good for them there are no kids involved in the marriage......it's a clean break for both parties!

raumdeuter:
See you all after the game

Mia san Mia

congrats!
the first 36 mins of this game is like the afghan war. attack after attack after attack.....

4-0?
game is now done & dusted!

Phema:
More like a VJ.

sister phema!
a born again christian that also speaks in tongue like you? i am astounded.

elampiro:
You are a hypocrite. Stats say otherwise. The same stat you used to put Silva over Hazard says Di Maria is the best among the three. Young is the worst this season.

which stat?
if it's whoscored.com, forget it! they factor all sorts of nonsense in their stats including height & skin colour. ashley young has been the most consistent player this season. in terms of who has the most talent, mata is heads & shoulders above everyone in our squad.

di maria has regressed badly since december.

he killed 7 gambians yesterday and he will kill 14 more today. i don't believe any word coming out of his mouth. he is just an attention seeker.

Alcatraz001:
I used to think you were more matured and all, I can't believe you typed this post in response to the OP's Post. How Old are you Sir?

you are a consummate rêtard!
used to think i am mature? do i even know where a scumbag like you crawled out from? you have the intelligence quotient of a pubïc louse.

elampiro:
Pay attention to details. See my original post. Players comparison this season in terms of performance.

mata is the best player in our squad. young has been the best performer this season. di maria started so well but tailed off since his house got broken into.

elampiro:
Di Maria
Young
Mata.


I mentioned them since.
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You are just coming now. I wan sleep o. See you tomorrow. You should know on the other topic, power in 'pace and power' means energy, effort. Not about muscle or bulkiness. I remember I used to mention about pace and power of Edgar David.

Good night.

your question makes no sense.
arrange these players in terms of what? strength? speed? aerial ability or what?

are you a villager?

elampiro:
Good you I have pushed you to accepting that other attributes are of physical. We are getting somewhere.

pushing who?
who did you push? after lying to us balance is what makes robben the most powerful player in the world.

If you knew football, you would know Robben is the most powerful from his movement ability. He has no iota of laziness in his movements. The stats are brought are not my original stat. My original stats says Robben has the highest sprint speed ever recorded in football. At that speed, he is the most powerful footballer.

sprint speed is pace. pace is not power!
that's my problem with you. you still haven't learnt the difference between pace & power.

When Robben beat Ramos he ran at 37km/hr. If he were to do that over 100 meter, he would make 10.28 secs- some professional sprinter have recorded worse time. Robben ran on the field with his boot. You can't do that without having so much power (energy).

pace is not power!
are you a bush man? what has robben's 300mph gotta do with power?

Why is it not being said that Ozil, Pirlo, Zidane, Carrick have pace and power? You wont even hear such about Sturridge, Dzeko, Giroud, Carzola, Kaka, Deco, Berbatov, etc. But for Robben it's almost every article. Robben has the most power in football. CR7 and Messi who took growth drugs for years are at about same region of power.

they are not in the same region.
messi leads robben considerably. it's a land slide victory.

why raumdeuter= you are stylishly inviting him to come help you out here. kpele

have i ever needed anyone's help to destroy you here? my thumb alone is too much for you, never mind calling another poster. i remain the undefeated spartan in this section.

You keep supporting my argument that power is not about physical built or bulkiness or muscle. Azpilicueta looks like someone who gathered his energy running in the hills and along the beach while Jones just went to gym. The former will gather more natural power.

elampiro, you are a dullard. pace is not power.

Robben, Messi, Ronaldo and Tevez should normally have little plus or minus in their stats, but they are in same region of power. Robben is their oga.

there's no little plus here. messi & ronaldo are miles powerful than robben.

robben - 663
ronaldo - 693

30 massive points and you are saying plus or minus?

You don't have sense. We are supposed to be comparing brain power with physical power based on your yeye logic. I brought the best of brain power vs the best of physical power. Even if you brought a first class student of 21 years old to face me on reaction to that requires movement, I will react 1000 time faster.

you are a dullard!
you should compare 2 professional football players, not a professor and an athlete. is that how to do analogy?

That's the problem. Valencia played as a defender, so they used a defender's stats to rate him in the forward position. You need to understand the way it works. It's even worse if he was analysed as a club player because he plays mostly as a right back for Man United.

valencia did not play as a defender.
he was rated as a striker. the software program of FIFA15 was written before october last year. that was long before LVG started using valencia as a defender. his card says RM, not RB.

Azpilicueta is more powerful than Jones na. Is it by muscle? You obviously did not do sports when you were growing up. Have you seen the size of marathon runners? Do you know how much power they have? Also the builders, always looking thin, but go try them.

never thought i would see the day elampawa would agree azpili is more powerful than jones. just because you want to defend a non-existing concept? hahahaha - i shall bookmark this.

Why do you think The Understaker is more powerful than Great Khali, Mark Henry and Kane? You have so much to learn about power.

we are talking football power, not fighting power. don't digress! football power is different from fighting power.

Yet stamina and strength put Blind above Akinfenwa. And you argue Akinfenwa is the most powerful footballer. Ukwu!!!

akinfenwa is the strongest player in the world. he was officially named by FIFA. strongest is quite different from powerful. don't distort the fact!

Stamina and strength are just two of the eight components of a football player's physicality.

they are the most important.

Even the other rating you presented, Suarez is ahead of Akinfenwa. The two criterias you brought, Akinfenwa is not near the most physical. Yet you keep believing muscles and pgysical build is what make a player having football power. I tire for you sef.

akinfenwa is the strongest player on FIFA.

elampiro:
QUESTION? Arrange the following player according to best, better and good based on this season. Who has performed most?

Is this hard to answer? Coogar wan pis for pant.

arrange which following player? what kinda idiotic question is this? where are the players you want me to arrange?

dyabman:
Ibime shouldn't have change his moniker, nevertheless, dayo and his dark agents should leave this thread pls..

Anyway,

Drogba injured , time for Solanke to get the nudge..I can't wait..

he's a man of his words.....unlike you!

you promised to post that famous picture of yours and you never owned up. dyabman, you are a ninny.

elampiro:
Who is talking about power. I am talking about how stats can be misleading.

you are the one being misled - FIFA didn't ask you to add a + b + c to determine who is more powerful.

agborodun:
The post is not meant for anybody to believe but for people to advise me. This happened to me personally.
This is not about weakness. I don't beat my wife and will never do that. Thanks all for your contributions

mechi onu there!
your wife opened her filthy mouth to curse you & you are saying you are not a weak man. how did things degenerate to this? what were you doing all the while things went from verbal abuse to a herbalist kinda incantation?

men like you are the reason real men get disrespected. if other women see how your wife disrespects you, they would want to try it on their husbands. you need to buy a spinal cord. you are the weakest nigerian man i have ever met!

elampiro:
Coogar, stats are facts. Why then should Young and Mata start before Di Maria?

because young & mata understand the philosophy better than di maria. so you think it's about power? if it's about power then di maria is the most powerful according to FIFA & rooney should drop to the bench.

elampiro:
When you said stamina is the other thing that has to do with power, you didnt know what you were going into because you thought stamina was about muscle.

i said strength & stamina are the 2 most important factors when determining power. other attributes on that list would carry less weights when the whole algorithm is computed.

I have not deviated from my stance that Robben has the most power in terms of football playing. I only decided to argue using these computer stats because someone brought it up.

according to whose stats? yours or FIFA?
the stats you brought up did not hold any relevance. so where did you learn robben has the most power in football. tevez is more powerful than robben & i can list over 1000 players in the world with more power than robben.

You obviously is the one who doesn't know what makes up power. When commentators keep repeating that Robben has blistering pace and power, you unknown pundit is arguing otherwise.

they say the same about rooney, ronaldo, sanchez & tevez. it is different altogether from the lies you are trying to feed us. robben has pace & power is different from robben is the most powerful player in the world.

even raumdeuter would slap you for such claims.

FIFA also came up with 8 physical items as a guide, yet you keep arguing otherwise.
So FIFA has no clue what attributes are physical or skillful or mental?

i put all this into consideration and robben comes short to messi, ronaldo & tevez. di maria got ahead of rooney & azpilicueta was ahead of pawaful jones. as you can see, your explanation makes no sense.

Between an old professor/Bill Gate/Wole Soyinka on one hand, and an athlete/Usian Bolt/Mike Tyson, who would react faster to physical threat?

so which of the players here is old as soyinka or a geek like bill gates? sometimes, it's better for you to shut up when you have nothing of value to say. we are comparing professional players whose everyday living is spent in the gym & training pitches and you are talking wole soyinka.

Where does Valencia play for country? Wing? In the world cup he was more of a defensive midfielder. He hardly crossed the centre line. Defenders are scored far less in speed, and acceleration. Generally defenders score less. Valencia is scored 87 in speed by FIFA 15 while some other players we know havent speed are scored more.

valencia wasn't rated as a defender on FIFA. he's a winger or RM. pay attention to details. valencia was analysed as a club player, not as an ecuadorian player. his card says RM, not RB.

Position has so much to do with it. Go and check and you will see that players who play in defence score less marks. Even Ramos.

score less marks in what?
is that why you think azpili is more powerful than jones? elampawa, this is 2015.....repent from your lying ways.

Logic should tell therefore that defenders should be compared with defenders.
I told you from day one of this argument that Rooney doesnt have power as people would think.

azpilicueta is a defender just like phil jones. how's azpili more powerful than jones? how's koscielny more powerful than john terry?

Although, if he played in Laliga last season, a less physical league his stats would be better. You have much to learn about this power. You needed to see Di Maria in world cup to know what power is about. He is new in EPL and he has not adjusted. This computer rating is also just a guide, it can't be 100% perfect.
The fact.

di maria has no power.
your conclusion is flawed. never ever compare pace with power. they are 2 different things. what would indicate power is the strength/stamina analysis.

if you look closely at the numbers generated by FIFA, strength & stamina rightly put everyone in their deserved place.

rooney.......stamina 89, strength 85
di maria......stamina 79, strength 64

the above automatically tells me rooney is the more powerful player. however, if we go by the dodgy formula you want us to apply, di maria suddenly becomes the more powerful player.

logic dictates my own formula is the right one while yours need deliverance from TB Joshua. only a complete lunatic would think di maria or even robben is more powerful than rooney. wazza might not have pace but he is blessed with power.

raumdeuter:
Pick your best 3, Send them to training camp preferably Papendal, Be feeding them with steroid and football knowledge

Cos by the time I pounce on them like the black beast(Bestia Negra) they wont know what fell on them

i don't even need any support - but just letting you know that if you post what is not palatable on that thread, united fans would eat your head for dinner. what is bestia negra to a red devil? the devil created the black beast.

raumdeuter:
Wait for your turn, Not necessarily today. And it would be on your thread

Dont be in a hurry to be beheaded. See as Ibime don be now. That was how he walked into a left hook.

Since I have beheaded the greatest Chelsea fans, I am now plundering their city/stadium and taking their women as captives

Where is Torres2 and sephia oya I am your new owner.

Nitlad I would sacrifice on the altar of Odin, Bimfo to Sango and Tval to Zeus

you didn't behead ibime......
just because you were able to call his bluff has no bearing on the argument. shey na only goal margin to determine which league is better?

what about the number of champions league/european cup won by the 2 leagues? the popularity? the transfer market? etc? if you carry this argument come my thread, you better buy a coffin for yourself.

you know my folks over there don't mess about.......

raumdeuter, you have 10 mins to present your argument that your league is better - please, don't go quoting what bayern has achieved. bayern is just one club out of 18 teams that make up bundesliga.

when we say league - we mean the overall strength of all the teams in the league. this is going to be short & easy for me. don't waste my time. just reel out the facts you have got & lemme put a sword to your neck.

agborodun:
She stood face to face with me reeling out my loads of sin to her,being d reason why she has refused to forgive me and she said if am not careful,I may never make it in life.
This was my experience with my wife when my pastor sent for her when He prayed for me after I lost my job and virtually everything I have laboured for in life.
Part of my "sins" are
1. Giving too much attention to our children more than her
2. Not setting up a buziness for her
3. Not allowing her family members to be living with us
4. Always correcting her when she go astray
5. Always teaching her in a hard way
6. Not always allowing her to have her way.

She promised to make my life miserable if I don't change.

What do I need to do?

i would laugh in her face if i were you. you are letting the empty threat of a sociopathic woman give you sleepless nights. you need to grow a spinal cord.

coogar is here....
the one & only undefeated spartan on NL. the premier league is better than bundesliga by a country mile. i dare dayokanu 20 times to present any argument he deems logical enough to subdue mine.

elampiro:
1. See the pictures below, you said the first man, marathon runner has power. The second men, a sprinters have no power. Yet you said physically built people have power while small people don't have power. What a contradiction? Ukwu!!!

where did i have this discussion of marathon runners with you? instead of you to address the points i laid down, you are busy running helter skelter imagining things you managed to scoop out of your wet dreams.

Marathon runner have the highest stamina in the world. Yet they are small. For the fact that Messi, Ronaldo, etc have high speed, stamina to match with other physical attributes, means they are powerful.

which power?
did you not lie to us here robben has the most power? i have given you 3 different players more powerful than robben using your retardêd formula. the formula also proves di maria is more powerful than rooney.

it's high time you accept you have no clue on what makes a player powerful. your mgbeke formula or all the lies you have told previously have been destroyed. first off, you said it was balance only. after that, you then you went on & said one must add all the attributes under physical to determine power.

you keep running from pillar to post.

Physical attributes are different from skillful attributes. Sprinting, jumping, acceleration, stamina, strength, agility, etc are all physical attributes. Even walking is a physical attribute. You see fat men walking lazily.

you have no clue!

Ball control, Dribbling, heading, shooting, chesting, curving, crossing, finishing, marking,volley etc are all skillful attributes.

yet more irrelevant points....

Mental attributes are interceptions, positioning, vision.

so why then is reaction under physical attributes? is reaction not a mental attribute? reaction time is how quickly an athlete reacts to danger or a pass to intercept or to position himself. how is reaction a physical attribute?

2. In the Kagawa vs Valencia rating, and Di maria vs Phil Jones, you have to know that these stuff are being monitored by computers based on the players performance on the field. How do you expect Valencia and Phil Jones who play in the defence for club and country to play at top speed, top acceleration, to boost their ratings?

valencia play in the defence for country?
when someone gets caught out, they begin to spew nonsense from their arsë. it was from this same position valencia became the fastest player in man utd.

what has position gotta do with it?
in which position in a team is a player not allowed to run or show physical attributes. kagawa is more powerful than jones according to your logic. that ends this argument without a doubt - you are clueless with stats.

Compare forwards with forwards and defenders with defenders. Kagawa even plays in Asia competitions where physical batter is less. He is mostly unlikely to get bullied off the ball there.

comparing forwards?
di maria is more powerful than rooney.....

Apples and Oranges. Compare defenders with defenders and forwards with forwards.
Coogar, you don't know football.

di maria is more powerful than rooney.
azpilicueta is more powerful than jones
koscielny is more powerful than john terry

according to your logic......

homesteady:
the 1st site I went to said 11!

the first site you went to said 11? so why did you lie it was 8 league goals sanchez scored in his debut season in la liga?

homesteady: During Sanchez 1st season in la liga, he only scored 8 league goals! Now compare with his 1st season in EPL!

Damnn, he is even among the top contenders for PFA player of the year, something he wouldn't have dreamt of in la liga!

you are confessing here you saw 11 but you wrote it as 8 to pull wool over our eyes?
you are a doddering simpleton!

And only a baboon that won't put into consideration that he played for a far better team, where he gets better service than he gets now!...........Actually, I remember him going goalless for about 7 games in that season! !

you are a fraud.
you went to a dodgy site....as if that wasn't bad enough, you deliberately changed the stats from 11 to 8. what kind of human being does that......trying to misinform the public because of your stüpid opinion that la liga is better?

One of the main argument of hazard fanboys for him not scoring many goals is that he plays as an attacking midfielder.....bla bla bla....... he trys to create goals.... bla bla bla...... And Sanchez is also doing the same thing at arsenal! At Barcelona, he had people to do all that for him!

what has this gotta do with the fact that it's been more difficult for sanchez to score in EPL? you should cover your head in shame for trying to distort the facts. if you have any iota of decency left in your diseased body, you should deactivate.