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odizeey:
is Rooney not just 30,he is down but not out.

SIRcumalot:
I no sabi business but won't you still be on the hook for the rest of his contract length ?
Or pay some huge money to keep said manager up.

When age finally starts to catch up to ronaldo and he is still on this huge contract while not scoring as much as he used too
will you say he isn't worthy of his contract then?

airmark:
Depay was n't a fraud for psv but he is a big fraud with man utd.

Just accept it. He has come to epl to flex nothing more. He can do that later not now. A new player in a team should be hungry, depay is only hungry to get private swimming pool, cinema room and 6 bedroom apartment. He has got that number 7 jersey and thought the world has ended. At a point in that cska match i could nt differentiate rooney's touches from depay's. It was that bad. Well i wish both continue to decline in form especially in epl.

odizeey:
this is d problem with nigerians, we forget quickly our hereos,.
When Rooney was banging goals he was good o,when he was giving scholars like crosses he was good,but now that he is facing a though career time,he's a fraud. Make we encourage this guy. I will never forget our 3:2 win against ac milan

airmark:
Merefish deyplay is at present man utd biggest fraud. That boy should not be collecting more than 10 grand per month. Rooney is playing rubbish now, but had helped man utd to win titles in the past, when he wanted to join chelsea you refused, let him continue collecting his pension. It serves you well.

funlord:


Nna men try pity the dude biko! Tomorrow na him birthday oh? Fraud to harsh! Always try to remember those days of his combo With" rudd van goals, saha, Cr7 and 2010"!

He was on "elitist tins" dat time na! Wazza don give us many good times oh? NEVER 4GET! Altho small scam dey inside the dopemu contract sha......a pay cut will help us forgive his transgressions!

SIRcumalot:
You probably know this already but saying 300K makes for a better story.
Rooney salary is still the same £250K SAF agreed to,he just has control over his image rights and stuff I don't really understand.

Falcao did,does that mean we aren't going to honour the contract we agreed too ?
If its makes any difference am sure rooney's current form his costing him money am talking goal bonuses etc.

SIRcumalot:
You never get what you deserve;
only what you have the leverage to negotiate.

Aside from maybe 4 or 5 players most player are either overpayed or underpayed.

codedguy1: I do not subscribe to Rooney being a fraud, but his recent form makes it hard for me to dispute that.

Rooney being a fraud should have absolutely nothing to do with his efforts and contributions to United before his recent decline since around 2012.

funlord: As for your point regarding coogar and elampiros argument in relation to rooney! I don't personally feel he is a fraud but a once great player that has now declined badly! Whose fault? His own! 100%

nyabinghi:
Coogar, use these values to judge. Henry 284 in 581 games, even he played in a shitty MLS league, Rooney 236 in 492 , zlatan 270 in 459, Alan Shearer 283 in 559 yet Rooney is labeled a fraud. Please do the conversions. Rooney is the only member of the mentioned names who played less as the arrow head of the team's attack. How is Rooney a fraud.

nyabinghi: rooney has a very good goals record for a player who has played behind ruud, saha,chicharito how many trophies did shearer lift for club and country

nyabinghi:
shearer scored 30 in 63 for England, Rooney scored 50 in 107, how is Shearer's return better, if Rooney had played as a centre forward all his years, he would have been United all time scorer since.

nyabinghi:
Rooney has declined every one knows that but to label him a fraud, is a fraud itself. He has scored 6 goals for United this season even in his shitty state. Depay should be carrying the team since Rooney has been faltering but Depay has defrauded United with this shitty displays.

elampiro:
Zero over zero.

elampiro:
Zero over Zero.

As for the record. It doesn't matter when Rooney breaks shearer's record. Or whether he even breaks it. What the stats says is that Rooney at 30 did what others could not do at that age. Goals and assists.

freecocoa:
Nah, I actually only wear my birthday suit these days.

You is not nice.

elampiro:
Big Bele Coogar I don't have your time.
Look at what you bolded (highlighted) and compare it with your response and see how you goofed already.
Once Henry was made a striker, he was allowed to develop there. Ronaldo developed as a winger.

elampiro:

What is happening to Martial now is what happened to Rooney when he came to United. He was sacrificed for other players. He was pushed to the wing and number 10 for other players. That affected his natural ability to play as an out and out striker.

When Nistelrooy left, Rooney should have been made a permanent striker or a permanent number 10 so he could developed well. Even in 2009/10 he scored 27 goals, we still went to buy Hernadez.

I think SAF needed him more in the deep. Since he has played more in the deep, I think he should just end it there.

darefestus:
Pundits alike, Coogs.
The other day Scholes was saying how the system deprives Rooney of Chances and he was sure if he had Chances he would easily put them away like he did at Goodison, i sat there startled, like did Scholesy just watch the same game i did?

We had a striker that was doing his best to avoid the ball, misjudging headers and only had to be pressured a little before he gave the ball to the CSKA midfielders. Even the game against Everton, a decent striker would not only have scored two, but maybe even three goals, but he kept positioning himself behind their defenders whenever the ball was to be played to him.

Honestly, i dread what'd have happened had we not gotten in Martial and persisted with say, hernandez.

AdeLaNa1:
Fact is, this is Rooney's last chance to at least try to get close to Shearer and Bobby Charlton's records in league and club respectively.
I dont think any sane coach ll play him as a CF any longer after all the hogwash we've seen from him so far this season..

SailorXY: If there's a "must-play" clause in Rooney's contract why can't it be renegotiated? If he's unwilling, Woodward can just pay him tha _fuck off! He can't be dragging us back like this, na him papa get the club?

elampiro:
Penalty
Giroud penalty = 0
Aguero =5
Kane = 2

Kane was very prolific too in Europe and cup games.

Coogar help with the rest stats on set play.

dopeJemi:
Na una get time to dey answer that bros

dopeJemi:
Are you guys babies? What's with the I backed him first, I praised him first, I did this and that first, damn! Cut the Crap

elampiro:
I can still checkmate you on this. But it will take time. We had a similar argument in time past when Kagawa was rated low in Madrid and I brought out other ratings to nullify this your time excuse.

May be tomorrow I will bring this scenario where a player who scored was subbed and rated higher than another who also scored but was not subbed.

elampiro:
I don checkmate you. I can still checkmate you further. Let me leave that for now.

In your opinion, someone who played 90 mins should rate far higher than another who played just 23 minutes. Now I checkmated you, you fall back on performance, no longer time spent on the field.

Ayagayagayagayo hei Ayagayagayagayo.

elampiro:
Vs PSV

Luke Shaw played 23 minuets in the first half.
Darmian 90 minuets
Mata 90 minutes
Martial 90 minutes.

Yet Shaw was rated higher. I can show more examples but that will be too time consuming today.

elampiro:
I am not blaming Schweinsteiger. You changed the argument. I said his rating ought to be above Lingard and Rooney but for some marginal points. So marginal points are inconsequential.

You cannot compare Valencia who rated 8.1 to Lingard who rated 6.0.

In my opinion 5.6 to 6.9 are in the same rage. But 8.1 is in a high performer rate, yet those kids said Lingard did better than Valencia. That was shocking for even mamaput to hear.

As for the rating, playing first half or full game has nothing to do. It's your activity.

Schweinsteiger had a negative rating and that is it. I have seen Rafael, Jones, Fletcher left after 20 minutes of play and were rated above 6.0, 6.4 etc .[/b]

elampiro:
6.0 is the kick off/start off for any player.
See Memphis that played for just 11 minutes has 6.2. Blind 28 minutes 6.19

It's not by length of play but by activities. Someone can play for 20 minutes and score 8.0. Someone else can play for 90 minutes and score 5.7

Score a goal = +1.0
Assist a goal about 0.5
Have an error leading to a goal 0.5-1.0 negative.

Dispossessed = negative.
missed a chance = negative.

elampiro:
You are a big liar.

5.9 is a negative Marking.

So till now you don't know how it works? If you play 1 minute you are expected to score 6.0 rating.

elampiro:

I stand my my words and they are the truth.

1. I was the first to announce we were buying Martial.

2. I was the first to put him along such big names as Suarez and Arguero. I also said he has dribbling ability of Sterling.

So how come I was accused I didn't want him to come because of Rooney. I endorsed him even before he played along side Rooney.

SAMBARRY:
i said fk off.dont you hear word.just go,leave,vamoose.

and if you dont have anything doing,you can come and help me wash my pants and make sure you wash it clean when you are done washing them let me know,i will give you instructions on where to spread them

elampiro:
Coogar.

Schweinsteiger had a negative rating. Which means his first half contribution was negative. He had the lowest rating.

Whoscored set everyone at 6.0 at kick off, as the opta data hitting the chart lives, the ratings keep fluctuating based on a players performance on the pitch.

But was Schweinsteiger really the worst player? I think not so. Lingard the worst followed by Rooney.

Whoscored rating experience:

6.0 or less =poor and even with critical errors.
6.0-6.9 =Average or poor
7.0-8.0= above average/good game
8.0-8.9= had a very good game.
9.0 - 10= Near excellent or excellent.

However, there might be marginal points between rages.

elampiro:
All these don't make sense at all. You brought posts when we were still analysing the guy. UniqueGem was not sure, he only wanted someone who could strike other than Rooney.

But once video was out, I stamped Martial and that was the beginning for everyone else.

SAMBARRY:
are you done ranting ?now take your own advise and fk off and please leave my M O N I C A out of your convo.stupid boy

darefestus:
Wait, are people really digging through old posts to prove Elampiro is a lying midget?

Seriously? You only need to have been here one week and you'd know he is falsehood through and through.

SAMBARRY:
IS EVERYTHING OK WITH YOU MENTALLY,PSYCHOLOGICALLY AND EMOTIONALLY?

SAMBARRY:
WHAT IS MY NAME MONICA FOR IN YOUR CONVO

elampiro:
All these are lies.

UniqueGem was only concern about whoever could shoot at goal even if it were Mane. He didn't declare Martial world class.

You also lied, you never knew Martial's game. You said the only elite striker available was Lacazette.

GUARDIAN SPORTS: .......The untested part may raise some eyebrows as it is clear that United need a goal source now, and for half the reported price could possibly pick up someone from the domestic market, who is highly likely to do a decent job and get eight to 10 goals a season.

Or for a similar huge sum, if you are looking at Ligue 1 forwards, there is Alexandre Lacazette. A product of Lyon’s youth system, as was Martial, though four years older, he is a senior French international and Ligue 1’s top scorer last season with 27 goals. Rated by Lyon at a minimum €50m (£37m), he has already been linked to Manchester United as well as Arsenal and Chelsea over the past year and would have been more of the finished article and more of a guarantee of goals. It would be interesting to know whether United first tried to sign him and, if so, at what point they pulled out, given the fee they are paying for Martial.

One can only assume that what made them go for Martial, rather than testing Lyon to their limit for Lacazette, is down to potential. Arguably Martial is more of a naturally talented footballer and possibly a more complete forward than the out-and-out goalscorer Lacazette. Rather than the safer option now, they are being more adventurous – paying more money for a diamond that could shine occasionally from day one but, with some more polishing, rate even higher than the Lyon man in a year or two.

I was the first to put Martial in the category of the elites like Suarez, Arguero and Sterling.

adeyemi2015:
If the Lad (Martial) isn't gonna prove his football (art) talent, I think Man United wouldn't be stupid to sanction the deal!
Kanu was 18 when he proved himself at Ajax and won the Champions League under the tutelage of LVG!
I'm not saying LVG philosophy is anything to write home about, but who knows; the Lad might eventually be a hit!

*let me quickly watch the lad's skills in YouTube*


Modified: based on the Clip I just watched, the Lad is a machine; he can play CF, ST, RW and LW. Moreover he seems clinical with goals!

My last post. I haven't time for all these.

elampiro:
The problem is that he is a teenager. 19 years.

elampiro:
So you just spend £36 million on anybody? You are not being logical.

UniqueGem:
I don't know but i feel there's something about Anthony Martial that warrants a £36M bid, if we eventually sign him, i expect him to start and hit the ground running, i won't tolerate it if LVG signs a 36Mil bench warmer. He must be a starter ahead of Rooney and he must hit the ground running. Most importantly, he must shoot when he's clear, even try his luck when the angle is against him. Thats what 36mil brings.

elampiro:

Hope we have not bought someone that would make us regret selling Welbeck?

He scored 9 League goals in 1828 minutes last season.

I read we put in for him when Monaco went out of the UCL. Wenger first wanted him after Monaco beat Arsenal last season. Arsenal were looking to sign him just a little above what Monaco paid to sign him.

In the summer, Tottenham were reported to have bid £18 million. The last rumour was that Barca joined in the race among several EPL teams.

elampiro:
It looks to me we still need one huge signing in attack. This one looks like a project for the future. Even Messi wasn't a boss at 19.