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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:22pm On Aug 08, 2014
elampiro, stop disgracing man utd fans with your facebook immaturity. grow up & learn from your masters.

SUAREZ: WHY I AM HAPPY WITH DANIEL
Luis Suarez today outlined why he is savouring being part of one of the world's most prolific partnerships with Daniel Sturridge, and offered his insight into why they’re so deadly when combining for Liverpool.


The duo have formed a devastating strike force for the Reds since Sturridge arrived at the club in January, plundering 17 goals and countless assists between them.

The pair were at it again against Newcastle last weekend, with Suarez teeing up his fellow forward for Liverpool's equaliser at St James' Park, and the Uruguayan is thrilled with their link-up.

The No.7 told Liverpoolfc.com: "I am so happy because when you have a very good striker, and a very good partner, for defenders it is difficult because they have to give their attention to two players - not just one.

"If maybe two defenders come towards me, this creates space for Danny. This is important not just for me, but for the team and our confidence.

"He is a very good player. He had difficult moments at Chelsea and City, but this is a good time for him and I am so happy with him."

In a recent interview about working in tandem with Suarez, Sturridge described the partnership as a 'beautiful thing'.


Liverpool's Salto-born forward believes there is more to come from the pair - and insists it's something they're working tirelessly on to achieve.

Nonetheless, Suarez is eager to point out there is much more to the attacking vigour of Brendan Rodgers' side than just the front pairing.

"We are trying for progression," he said. "He is 24 and I am 26, so we are trying our best to progress for the future of the club.

"We know in the last few seasons, Liverpool have been not been in the Champions League and we know we can help the team challenge for the top four."

Suarez added: "We will try our best [to improve], but Liverpool is not only Suarez and Sturridge - it's the whole team.

"When I was banned, Iago was playing, Philippe has been playing and although now he is injured, he will come back and help the team. We've also had other players come back, like Johnson, and this is important for us."

Sturridge's goal at Newcastle was his 20th for Liverpool in just 26 appearances, making him the fastest player in Liverpool's history to reach the milestone since Fred Pagnam in 1915.

Asked if the presence of another goal-getter in the team changed his mentality when stepping out onto the pitch, Suarez joked: "Yes, because the responsibility is with him now - not me!

"Whether Danny scores, I score, or Stevie or another player scores, I am so happy and so are the team.

"When you have one man in the area, it's more important. I am not a real No.9 in the area, but Daniel is more so and that's important for me and the team."

Between them, the duo have managed 36 shots on goal so far in the Barclays Premier League this season.

Suarez feels he and Sturridge are on the same wavelength when it comes to getting efforts in on goal inside the box.

"For a striker, it's more difficult [to look for a teammate]," he explained. "In the area, you're concentrating on yourself and shooting at goal.

"If he shoots or if I shoot, we are both strikers and we understand. We can discuss it on the pitch, but we work really well together."

Suarez has previous experience of attacking in tandem for his team - the former Ajax star struck up a prolific understanding with Klaas-Jan Huntelaar during their time together at the Dutch club.

He's confident, however, 'the SAS', as they've been dubbed by fans, have what it takes to surpass his double-act efforts in Amsterdam.

"Three or four years or more ago, when I played with Klaas-Jan Huntelaar at Ajax, he had a very good partnership with me," said Suarez.

"Now, with Daniel we are trying our best and we can improve. Maybe in a few years I will be able to say my best partnership was with Daniel Sturridge, especially if we can continue to progress."

So...would Suarez ever contemplate swapping celebrations?

"No, never!" he laughed. "After he scores, he dances and I like that because I also have a celebration. When a striker scores, it makes him so happy."
if bleacherreport & opta lied about suarez's starting position, did suarez also lie about himself? grin cheesy

elampawa is a disgrace to football punditry.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:00pm On Aug 08, 2014
elampiro: Tortoise, you are a disgrace. Is bleecher report better than what you saw your self?
no, how can they be? it's run by hypocritical twäts that trained you on facebook forum so they shouldn't be taken serious.

you are by far the most weak-minded human being this forum has ever produced. your IQ has been stuck on a single-digit since you were born. someone needs to go to alaba market & get a signal booster to power your IQ.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:52pm On Aug 08, 2014
elampiro: Tortoise, Suarez was a CF. I have proven you wrong over and over again that your opta is shyte when it comes to formation.
My argument was that Suarez scored his goals from strikers position. Chikena!!!
you are a plonker!
given that 80% of all football players score their goals around the penalty area, it then makes them strikers. every time vidic has scored for man utd in the box, it means he's a striker.

you are a disgrace to the people that contributed the sex cells that made your conception possible. from coutinho/sterling aren't regular to suarez scoring all his goals in a striker position.....what idiocy is left for you to display?

You are worst liar ever since creation. Illiterate. If you were taken into prehistory era, you would still be an ignoramus. What a pity. Mr Tortoise, you are irredeemable in your crooked ways.
says the man that told us lampard dusted scholes in a simple statistic presented. in the gathering of people accursed with down syndrome, you would be the life president.

explain to us when coutinho/sterling were irregular. cheesy grin


bleacher report: Even if Liverpool don't go on to win the league or that trident is broken up, this season will live on in the collective memory because this is a side that attacks with such verve that to witness it is to feel a visceral thrill.

Yet perhaps the most intriguing aspect of the front three is the fact that Brendan Rodgers can deploy them in varying configurations.

The basic line-up is for Sturridge to be central, Suarez to float off him to one side and Sterling take up a wide position on the other, but there are options, and that's what makes Liverpool so devastating.

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1998440-analysing-the-genius-of-liverpools-suarez-sturridge-sterling-combination
elampawa is a disgrace!
on a more serious sports forum where trolls are prohibited, elampawa would have been weeded off with a life ban.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:37pm On Aug 08, 2014
elampiro: * I want to believe you are not an illiterate. Can you see that was a conditional statement? 'When Suarez, Coutinho and Sterling became regulars'. I never said Strurridge didn't play with them.
you are the stark illiterate.....
what is the meaning of coutinho & sterling becoming regular? when have they ever been irregular? are you out of your mind?

* Suarez was a CF. It became fluid only when one was played out wide, and it didn't happen many times.
so when suarez was the CF, where was sturridge? a midfielder? opta said sturrudge appeared 26 times & played 26 times as a CF. look at the image i posted & stop lying to us.


You are just a tortoise. Just give up the argument. You lost already. Lie lie Coogar- Suarez was a winger. Lol. Liar from conception.

Ukwu!!!
i have shown opta formation that placed suarez wide with sturridge in the centre. those were some of their big games last season - against spurs & arsenal.

at least show us one evidence that sturridge was a winger like you lied to us. high concentration of lies must have coagulated the semën that made you. that was how you lied last night too in the face of clear stats that lampard was better than scholes.

i don't even know whether to call you a pathological liar or a raving stark illiterate. stats you cannot read. cognitive reasoning - you lack it. from one side of your lips, it's a fluid 3. from another side, suarez was the CF.

almost 3 years of posting on NL & your deductive reasoning continues to decline. you are now worse than when you first emerged from the wilderness called facebook sports page. i suggest you go back there again for a comprehensive brain reset.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 8:57pm On Aug 08, 2014
raumdeuter: Kroos anyday. even though I hate him for leaving.

In Madrid Yaya would be useless since he cant take Penalties and Freekicks. He wont be allowed to bomb forward senselessly

As a manager of Madrid, I would rather buy Chiek Tiote rather than Yaya at least I know what I'm getting instead of a jack of all trade master of none
someone check afrodoc & nihilist - i hope they haven't been placed on a suicide watch after reading this comment from dayo. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 8:52pm On Aug 08, 2014
raumdeuter: Yaya Toure is overrated

This same Yaya and City midfield has been sodomised by everyone in the CL from Kroos, Schweini, Bender, Gundogan, Hamsik, Ghokhan Inler even Ajax babies and Eriksen took turns on him
yaya toure or kroos?
who would you rather buy if you are a manager of madrid?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 8:34pm On Aug 08, 2014
chrisley024: From his stats, I hope he is not regressing?

Just saying.
difficult to say if he's regressing. the number of minutes played is unknown in those seasons. that might have affected his opta rating.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 7:55pm On Aug 08, 2014
afrodoc: I was comparing the leagues not the clubs. Man City has been poor in Europe but they have lost 17 matches in the EPL in that period but in that period Juve has lost only 7 matches including an unbeaten season. only in a fecal league( or at least a putrid one) can this Juve side go unbeaten
for a whole season.
nah!
you were comparing their european campaign! you made mention of how they usually struggle to make it to the last 16. city have fared worse in europe if we analyse based on the cost of their monster squad.

P.S if Vidal is fit and his knee is fine he would be a great addition and i would be happy with it but don't go making it like he is the 2nd coming of Jack Bauer.
fit or unfit - we should just sign him now that vermaelen has slipped to barcelona. not signing vidal would have a demoralising effect on our fans & perhaps the players. this is about making a statement that we can get the best talents if we want to.

ExtraP.S Coogar was it not you that said with fellaini and anderson and cleverley we would win the league this season and that it would be foolhardy for us to spend any money on midfielders? cheesy
we have proven in the past we don't need world class central midfielders to win the league. a substandard united midfield have won more league titles in the last 8 seasons than any other team in england - how did anderson & cleverley achieve that? chelsea with world class midfielders have only won 1 league title in 8 seasons.

06/07 - united
07/08 - united
08/09 - united
09/10 - chelsea
10/11 - united
11/12 - man city
12/13 - united
13/14 - man city
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 7:26pm On Aug 08, 2014
afrodoc: Thats to show you the yeyerity of the league. How many matches has Juve lost in the league last 3 years? This same Juve team that struggles almost yearly to reach knock out stages of UCL.
same as man city!
toure has been at man city for how many seasons now - where has he taken city to in europe? they have been beaten bluish blackish by nearly all the teams they have faced in europe. they have finished at the bottom of the group about twice....

vidal is the truth!
this is exactly what we need in our midfield, a raging bulldog who would kill off the opposition while scoring or assisting via his killer passes.

[img]http://164.177.157.12/img/blog/2014%2f7%2fVidal2Header.jpg[/img]

see how busy this player gets in the middle of the pack. rooney wouldn't even need to track back again.

[img]http://164.177.157.12/img/blog/2014%2f7%2fVidal2.jpg[/img]

he has scored 28 goals in serie a. the highest of any midfielder since he moved to italy. who does this guy remind you of? he tackles more than tiote & scores as many as ramsey.....this is the new keane!

van gaal would be stüpid not to pay £50m for this lad.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 7:06pm On Aug 08, 2014
afrodoc: That does not explain his being dribbled almost 2 times per match and committing 2.3 fouls per match( Toure's stats were 1.2 and 1.1 respectively). That is the definition of defensive liability.
If you add the fact that Vidal turned the ball over 41 times compared to Toure's 28 and Vidal was also dispossessed 44 times compared to Toure's 31 ALL THESE while starting 7 matches less than Toure then we can have a better idea of who the liability is
toure is the liability.
vidal is combative. he destroys as much as he creates. only roy keane had such attributes & scholes to some extent. scholes can't tackle to save a life & yet he's no liability.

this is how vidal measures to toni kroos who many would choose over toure when push comes to a shove.

https://u.goal.com/437400/437415_heroa.jpg

in the statistics that matter again, vidal beats kroos to a pulp.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 6:50pm On Aug 08, 2014
afrodoc: Yaya Toure is not a defensive liability, he has played CM,CDM and even CB with distinction in the past.
no he hasn't.....
in fergie's final days - i saw tom cleverley reenacting the barbaric act of slavery against yaya toure at the etihad. which distinction? what was toure's contribution to the barcelona team that won 2009 champions league? if barca had yobo in toure's position on the night, they would still have won the cup.

Vidal played less matches than Toure yet he committed more fouls 74 fouls to Yaya Toure's 39 and Vidal was dribbled 54 times to Toure's 43.
because vidal is an all-action midfielder. he tackles as many times as he creates chances. he's the latino roy keane. toure's ašs is covered by fernandinho & gareth barry(penultimate season).

These stats alone show that Vidal is more of a defensive liability than you think and is a potential yellow card machine in the faster paced EPL.
that's a very shaky way to analyse statistics. the italian league is very combative. vidal was the anchor of the juventus midfield that won 33 league games, losing only 2 games.

on the attacking side of things, vidal created more & assisted more pro rata. so what does toure have over vidal apart from being a cry baby that wants to flee cos he wasn't wished a happy birthday?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 6:01pm On Aug 08, 2014
Nihilist: Didi Hamman is not even qualified to talk about Yaya Toure.

Yaya Toure has 6 league winners medals in 4 countries and has won African best 3 times...

Didi should go away and reflect on his less illustrious career.
yaya toure was fighting dengue fever in abidjan when hamann was destroying the mighty ac milan in 2005 final of the champions league.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 5:50pm On Aug 08, 2014
Nihilist: The very website you reference give Toure the overall gong by a country mile. What else do I need to provide?

Anyway why stop at removing Toure's setpiece goals, why don't we remove all his goals completely? grin
because a midfielder that gets to take penalties regularly will outscore the one that doesn't. it's simple logic. it means toure could play shyte all day & score a hatrick. all he has to do is score from 12 yards with only the goalie to beat.


dietmar hamann
"yaya toure is a defensive liability"
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 5:37pm On Aug 08, 2014
Nihilist: Why wasn't he given the opportunity?
different teams with different philosophies. what suits man city may not suit juventus.

Has Vidal shown us any reason to believe he can tidy set pieces with the required consistency?
why not?
if pirlo was a city player, toure won't come near the freekicks or penalty kicks.

The fact that he had license to go forward does not make him an AM btw, which is what I was pointing out to pkasso there...
toure has played that AM role several times. it's an opportunity for city to use an extra defensive midfielder. toure sits at the tip of the pivot!

Sadly the user behind the handle is more Dali than than Pablo...he's canvass seems quite empty at the minute...
i have ample evidence to prove vidal was the better player last season. where's your own evidence that toure is better. let's edit out the set-piece goals....:what does toure have?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 5:31pm On Aug 08, 2014
ritchboy: Nowadays everyone thinks labeling people who say EPL Player X is better than La Liga/Serie A Player Y "EPL fanboys" makes them look enlightened... This moronic train of thought needs to be addressed ASAP.

Yaya Toure > Arturo Vidal
bitchboy, don't just tell us toure is better than vidal. show us proof why you think toure is better than vidal.

this is not a beer parlour or a herbalist oracle. we need empirical evidence or scientific proof to take your word for it. today's friday & it's not unusual for you to be pissy-drunk before writing the piffle above.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 5:24pm On Aug 08, 2014
Nihilist: I'm sure when you composed this post in your mind, you had some hidden gem of perspicacity to share. I regret to inform you that you have sadly omitted it.

Toure and Ramsey played the same position last year. Silva/Nasri were the creative forces for City last season.

Infact during the 1st leg of Barca game, I remember Dahdemola expressing his appreciation of Silva's control of City's attacking movement from a position on the left flank.

The Chelsea game saw Toure paired with freaking Demichelis in the middle of the park. How was he expected to perform in tandem with that Whale? I remember Coogar was delighted when he saw the teamsheet and correctly predicted that Luiz-Matic-Ramires combo would destroy the city midfield

Abeg come correct with your arguments or go home. I'm all for explosive debates, but your submissions lack substance... undecided
except that toure gets the license to bomb forward and cause mayhem for the opposition. that's actually city's go-to method when they want to close shop. garcia will join fernandinho & toure would play directly behind a centre forward.

on top of all that, toure had the bonus of 6 penalty kicks & 4 awoof free-kicks. are you saying vidal wouldn't have scored 6 penalty kicks if given the opportunity? if he had, do you know how many goals he would have had?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar:
elampiro: * You are a rogue, liar. When did I tell you that sturridge never featured with Coutinho and Sterling? Pls pay attention to details.
who wrote this?
https://www.nairaland.com/871307/official-manchester-united-fan-thread/838#25320519
elampiro: Stop lying, you didn't follow Liverpool games.
*Suarez did not start the season. Liverpool played Sturridge.
* Sturridge did not play games when Courtingo, Sterling and Suarez became regular.
* Suarez was Liverpool striker, and not a winger.
you are a bloody liar.
if i earn a pesewa for each time slippery lies have fallen outta your mouth, i would be twice as rich as bill gates.


* I maintain my stance, Suarez played in the centre forward. In most of the matches it was even Sturridge drifting wide to try his tricks. Again do you realize Suarez didn't even start the season? He missed 5 matches. That mean Suarez could possibly have played maximum of 21 matches together with Suarez. Yet you want to make us believe. Suarez played in the wing. Thank God for whoscored.
sturridge played as a centre forward each time he started. injury kept sturridge out of the squad each time he didn't start. stop lying to us here.

after telling us the forward line is fluid, you are now saying suarez was the centre forward. if the front 3 is fluid, how does that make suarez the composite centre forward? grin cheesy

elampiro, lying to the public since 1856


Nihilist: You make it seem like taking pens is the easiest thing in the world. If it was, then teams won't have dedicated penalty takers.
Penalties are difficult, ask Van Gaal whose players blatantly refused to take pens against Argentina
Freekicks are even harder, yet you lot keep trying to discount them. How many free kick specialists are even in the EPL at the moment?
so who's more likely to score more goals in this scenario:

player A that has 80% assurance of scoring any penalty kick but he's not the number one penalty taker for his club.

player B that has 80% assurance of scoring penalty kick and he's the number one penalty taker for his club.

answers on a postcard, please......
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Nairaland Fantasy Premier League 2014/2015 by coogar: 4:21pm On Aug 08, 2014
azpekuliar: Come back and woo us when you've won either the Monthly or the Overall prize. cheesy
if you miss this ish, you would regret it. this is how FPL should be. you can replace non-performing players during game week fixtures - remove a useless player on saturday & let the one playing on sunday replace him.

there are loan deals, captain armbands can be switched in case you have rooney picking 1 point when you expected him to cop 15 points. all these perks with a monthly prize of £1,000 if you strike luck......

what's not to like about UFPL? wink
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 4:03pm On Aug 08, 2014
Nihilist: Oh really?

Post the full squawka comparison matrix including the overall scores


Vidal's overall performance rating from Sqwaka(The website Coogar referenced above) is 540

Toure's is 1380

Abegiiiiiiii
like i said, toure's stat got boosted by 6 goals scored from penalty & 4 from free-kicks.

what if aguero was fit all season, would toure get a free-pass to kick penalties? come on now, toure's stats was an anomaly.

the fact that vidal created more chances & more key passes tell me he's better than toure. he had less minutes on the pitch as well.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Nairaland Fantasy Premier League 2014/2015 by coogar: 3:56pm On Aug 08, 2014
ritchboy: The format of UFPL favors less skilful managers, has stricter management times pre/post KO, and is generally less fun, no thanks...

However, i still find the prospect of taking all NL FPL managers' money enjoyable... Na GOD save una last season #puss[color=#000000]ie[/color]s tongue
just confess you don't have £5 needed to register into UFPL. this is actually more fun. you have 23 squad players with £160m to spend.

it's more fun when there's money in it. there are monthly cash payments to managers of the month & a grand prize for the overall winner. how could this be less fun to FPL?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 3:52pm On Aug 08, 2014
Nihilist: Vidal was dribbled more times than Toure.
That is a statistical fact.

And Set Piece taking is a very important skill. Why is Vidal not taking freekicks?
perhaps because vidal has pirlo. if pirlo were to be in man city, toure would take the back seat.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1609634_image_jpeg9f360c5ab7736510df54c882e9dbf188


vidal took toure to the cleaners in the stats that matter.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 3:35pm On Aug 08, 2014
Nihilist: WTF am I even reading?
Attacking wise, Toure outperformed Vidal last season boasting more goals, a significantly higher pass completion rate, and a significantly higher take on rate.
the goals that was boosted by 65% set-piece taking? grin cheesy

Defensively, Vidal committed more fouls and was dribbled more than Toure. If you then compare the fact that Vidal had double the amount of yellows that Toure had, then you can understand who the real boss in midfield is.
committing more fouls doesn't necessarily mean vidal was more dribbled, vidal could be covering for a mistake made by a team-mate. it might mean vidal is busier. there are loads of possibilities here.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 3:05pm On Aug 08, 2014
Nihilist: How on this earth is Vidal better than Yaya Toure?

On what basis?
he's better in all departments - this is why united are after arturo. how do you want the comparison? attacking or defensive stats?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 2:36pm On Aug 08, 2014
elampiro: Coogar, I have told you before. Opta chart is hardly accurate. We saw this when Arsenal played Bayerm Munic and many more. Ozil would be assume to be in the hole whereas he played on the right.


Bye jor. I lost so much time. May be tomorrow we continue. This is too time consuming sef.
you are a consummate rogue!
sturridge appeared 26 times & played 26 league games in the CF position.

didn't you also tell us sturridge never featured with coutinho & sterling on the pitch? you lie every hour of the day. what are you?

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 1:21pm On Aug 08, 2014
elampiro: * What stopped our CMs from scoring from open play? Toure still beat their collective goals with his open play stat.
blame moyes for that.....if we had a penalty taking midfielder, scoring goals is no biggie.

elampiro, caught lying again......

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1609267_image_jpeg9f360c5ab7736510df54c882e9dbf188

elampiro: Suarez was a striker. So if you are able to pull out one or two charts Rooney played in the wing in 2012/13, it will mean he was a winger that season?
Moreover, whbat you produced was a fluid 3. You didn't watch those matches.
from the same lying lips that told us sturridge was always on the bench whenever coutinho & sterling started. you disgrace yourself when you lie bold-faced on this forum.

how come all the big games of liverpool that featured suarez & sturridge always shafted suarez to the side with sturridge in the centre forward position? how come sturridge started games that also featured coutinho & sterling in the starting line up?

elampiro, cover your face in shame.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 1:15pm On Aug 08, 2014
elampiro: Stop lying, you didn't follow Liverpool games.

*Suarez did not start the season. Liverpool played Sturridge.

* Sturridge did not play games when Courtingo, Sterling and Suarez became regular.

* Suarez was Liverpool striker, and not a winger.
elampiro caught lying again for the 17,6745th time. grin cheesy grin

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 1:09pm On Aug 08, 2014
elampiro: All our midfielders participate in corner kicks. How many people goals did they score collectively?
how many of our midfielders got the opportunity to score 6 league goals from the penalty spot. toure's goal haul last season was an anomaly.

ramsey clearly bested him & he didn't add awoof goals to his goal haul.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 1:03pm On Aug 08, 2014
Keky: Coogar and Elampiro, Ramsey scored 16goals from open play and made 10assists despite being out for 3months. Surely he's better than yaya yh?
obviously - ramsey was the better midfielder last season. if you add the awoof penalties toure got to pile his stats, ramsey would have 22 goals as a central midfielder.

StarBoard: Yeah true.
Abidal was suspended for that final.
But that stint in CB in rome opened the door for Busquets and Yaya never was a first 11 player in Barcelona again.
busquets had chased toure out of the starting xi before that final. guardiola promoted busquets & pedro once he got the job & we all thought racism........until i saw what guardiola must have seen.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:55pm On Aug 08, 2014
elampiro: I saw the games. Sturridge was number 9 until Suarez returned from suspension. Sturridge even soon went on injury. At the tail end of the season, Sturridge was being used from bench or rotated with Coutinho. Surez and Sterling were the regulars.
stop lying to us...
sturridge appeared 29 times in the league(same as wayne rooney) and he was a centre forward for liverpool in all those games.

29/38 is not rotation.


StarBoard: I believe Toure started at CB vs United in Rome.
Just asking.
that was because puyol had to play as a RB in the final. the regular guy there got a controversial suspension and barca were fighting to get him back just like we wanted fletcher back too. until then, busquets had reduced toure to a molue passenger on the bench.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:50pm On Aug 08, 2014
elampiro: * Toure played without his regular midfield partner and he wasn't even fit. Why did Matic not save Chelsea when they met in the cup fixture.
so toure needs his partner to function? that clearly shows toure is overrated. matic mauled toure.

* Excuse, excuse. How many goals did our midfielders add the previous seasons?
which of carrick, cleverley, anderson, scholes, etc have played the number-10 role for us in the league? which of them have scored 6 goals from the penalty spot?

* How many midfielders have 20 goals and 9 assists, world all over?
how many midfielders get the opportunity to score 13 goals from set plays?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:38pm On Aug 08, 2014
StarBoard: Until it happens, I will adopt the doubting Thomas position: seeing is believing.
All these rumours appear driven by the agent to force United into buying the guy at a rate commensurate to our desperation.
vidal himself wants to leave juventus. if we meet the asking price, we would get him.

I still don't have a valid lead to believe that anything concrete is in the offing. And all these rag websites reporting that the deal is done are doing this just to drive the trafic on their sites. But what is your assessment on his price?
the price is £42m & £182k per week.
i think it's a fair price - everyone knows we need his type of services the most in our midfield. we are almost desperate to have someone of his kind & that is the reason his price was set high.

interesting because a decision would have to be made before august 31 on the afore-mentioned names.
That doesn't spare anyone of them from the impending cull.
he won't sell them until he assesses them. that much is clear. he has stated he would give everyone a try.....so i expect to see ando & fellaini completing 90 mins against valencia in the friendlies.


elampiro: I saw many Liverpool games last season. Suarez played the number 9 more than Sturridge. Sometimes when both starts, they play as two strikers as they did to us in OT. Some other times, they play fluid forward. But Suarez play the number 9 mostly, particularly the period Sturridge went back to the bench for Coutinho.
no, you didn't see many liverpool games - you are just twisting the facts to suit your argument. this was the same elampiro that told us suarez drops deep to the midfield to get the ball when you were defending rooney's lack of positional discipline last season.

sturridge has always been the furthest liverpool player from their goalie, not suarez. sturridge is the number-9, not suarez. when coutinho is on the pitch, he sits behind suarez & sturridge in a double-pronged attack.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:27pm On Aug 08, 2014
elampiro: * Ronaldo was anonymous in the final. When has Ronaldo ever have to rely on supplies?
ronaldo wasn't anonymous in the final....he played very well

* So who plays top 9 for Liverpool? I know Suarez as a striker, not 10 or a winger.
sturridge!!!
suarez plays on the left side of the attack & sterling plays on the right hand side.

elampiro: Until we see the stat.
I know Toure has probably the most beautiful assist last season when he ran ring around an opposition defence.
toure is overrated!
he was undressêd by matic last season at the etihad in the biggest game of the season.


According to your stat, Toure has about 10 goals from open play and corner kicks. What prevented our 6 CMs from scoring 10 goals collectively from all competitions last season?
•the stupidity of moyes
•no primary set-piece taker in the midfield
•mata came too late to the party
•kagawa was sidelined.
•toure often plays as a number-10

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