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afrodoc: your regular homoerotic sentiments are quite worrying. But that aside your analogy is quite flawed. any yeoman footballer can then claim that if he had iniesta and xavi in midifeld he too could outscore Messi...thats really weak.

it's a valid claim!
we all saw ronaldo's laboured performances for portugal at the world cup. the world best player couldn't get out of his group. the moment he wore the white shirt last night, he was back to his winning & scoring ways....

coincidence??

Cleverley should show signs he is up to it first.
If cleverley moves to real (LOL) all that will be thrice obvious is that he does not belong in that rarefied air.....same way Valencia was better with fellow otu players in Wigan

cleverley showed that sign when he gave yaya toure & gareth barry the beating of their lives some 3 seasons ago when we had a team. his form continued till he got injured.

chrisley024: Cleverly is the worst midfield we've now.
Other midfielders are known for atleast one quality including Anderson, who's known for constant attack play irrespective of the opponent, but Cleverly?! Players would wish more of his likes as their opponent.

Cluelessness is an understatement. He is in the team cos of the state of our midfield.

cleverley is one of our best midfielders - he's the best one touch passer in the team. he rarely loses possession. he always makes himself available to receive a pass & he gives it back while he quickly moves into space. his off the ball movement is the best in the history of man utd midfield.

it's a shame we don't have mobile midfielders who think intelligently like he does. go & watch all our games. i stopped counting at the 1000th occasion when cleverley passes the ball, runs into space to receive the pass & never got the ball because the player he passed to decided to dïck around & lose the ball.

afrodoc: ok...u stumbled with English there....u should have said "how" not "why".
thank me later

it's the same....
the other part of the paragraph should have told you what i was talking about. since kroos wouldn't have improved our final position last season if he was playing instead of cleverley, why do you then think cleverley is poor?

afrodoc: oh so u agree that cleverley is poor? then why are we having this debate? bar man! serve that coogar one Gulder

logic faileth thee once again!
why is cleverley poor - according to your flawed logic? read between the lines

afrodoc: who said anything about us winning the league? you like arguing with yourself sha.
well if cleverley is as good or better than kroos,gotze and alcantara to you.....that na for your mind.

so why is cleverley poor then?
since kroos wouldn't have improved our position if he was playing instead of cleverley, how is he then better than cleverley? logic faileth thee once again.

are you saying cleverley wouldn't look thrice as good if he was playing in real madrid or the bayern team of last season? we have all watched boateng - a defender less talented than blackett looked like a world class player in the german team.

bring boateng back to stoke or everton & watch him get exposed again & again. you should stop rating a player with the sum of a team's output. muller has outclassed messi & ronaldo in the last 2 world cups cos he plays in a better team than the messi/ronaldo.

if we were to judge them based on world cup games alone then muller is 20 times better than the duo but is that the case in reality? you have your answer, afrodoc. kroos is a very good midfielder but he doesn't pull the trees on his own. bayern would still be what they are with or without kroos!

afrodoc: [/b]
tell that to van gaal, oh ye that knows football

if this is your reply to my well-laid out logic then you have no business analysing football matters on these pages. go & sit on van gaal's lap and hear grandpapa stories from him.

if the support doesn't matter, why has muller outclassed messi/ronaldo in the last 2 world cups?

afrodoc: for your mind bro, for your mind.

you guys know nothing about football. so we would have won the premier league last season if we had kroos in place of cleverley?

why not go further & say west ham would have made the top 4 if they had kroos in their midfield last season? how can you talk about kroos & not talk about the wonderful support around him?

rooney isn't muller. carrick isn't schweinsteiger. fellaini isn't lahm. ribery/robben aren't valencia/janujaz. even world class players struggle in a team of mediocre players & this is why ronaldo/messi may never win the world cup.

afrodoc: well i think u should pass on ur tips to the old trafford admin because your manager Van Gaal believes there is no world class winger in the squad

of course, no winger is performing to the required standard as of now because their confidence was eroded by moyes who crashed the defending champions into the 7th position last season.

as for not having a world class winger in the team, that's nonsense. nani is twice better than di maria. i would even have a very fit ashley young before di maria. form is temporary, class is permanent.

afrodoc: [/b]
Cleverley as good as Kroos,Thiago and Gotze in terms of creativity? Comparing him to Thiago and Gotze in that respect is blasphemous.
As per Kroos: if you took away composure,incisive passing and ambidexterous mid to long range shooting from Kroos you would get Cleverley.

cleverley is as good if not better than the aforementioned players & i stand by it. if we had kroos in place of cleverley last season, our position would still have remained 7th or perhaps 8th.

why does kroos shine for his team? he had a muller instead of fat rooney, he had schweini instead of the lethargic carrick last season & he had robben/ribery on the wings instead of a useless one-footed valencia & an unproven featherweight janujaz.

afrodoc: I already told you Valencia should not be footballer. Go talk Valencia with your twin Elampawa.
Last week you said a wing back does the same thing as a full back, this week you are saying a wing back does the same thing as a winger.
If you can't see the contradiction in that then i can't help you

no...
don't confuse yourself. last week, i said there's nothing young is doing now that he wasn't doing in the previous seasons. all premier league wingers defend & cover for their full backs. i cited baines, coleman, rafael & evra. they are full-back/winger rolled into one.

afrodoc: I suspect you are very good at reading, i never mentioned injuries.Using injuries as an excuse is just that, an excuse. U neglect the fact that he is playing a different role. I said Young is playing well now. He just might make a decent wing back but as winger he is still mediocre. Only last week Van Gaal was saying we have NO WORLD CLASS WINGER . The best talent we have on the wings is Nani but he is never consistent. Valencia should not even be a footballer.

this is a very cheap attempt at scraping the barrel. ashley young's role hasn't changed - don't make it look like a change in position improved his performance so you can have a leg to stand on. valencia is also playing in a "different position" according to your logic, why hasn't valencia improved too? young provides the width - point blank period!

young played in a 4-man midfield under fergie/moyes in a 4-4-2 formation young is playing in a 4-man midfield under van gaal in 3-4-1-2 formation. in both cases, the 4-man midfield contains 2 central midfielders, so what has changed? instead of you to admit your prognosis on young was flawed, you are looking for lame excuses.

afrodoc: I never said we had made bids for those 3 though. Just that if we are interested in them i don't think all 3 will come. Maybe 2 of them.
Young is playing well no doubt, long may it continue.

so you admit young is playing well & the last 2 seasons performance were poor because of his injuries? why then were you guys saying he lacks the talent to play for united? if young is poor what then would you say about valencia?

But Fellaini and especially Anderson should be sold.......why won't he cop a calf injury when the tiny legs are carrying his big tummy?

so from food-related injury claim, it has now turned to big tummy over tiny legs? if i may ask, was carrick also injured cos of big tummy/tiny legs? perhaps rafael too?

I never advocated Cleverley being sold, i have always believed he should be kept as a SQUAD player. However i am not one of those that have compared him to Kroos,Gotze,Thiago etc

he's as good as those ones as far as creativity is concerned. cleverley is a gem - moyes ruined him with his pre-historic tactical nous. compare his performance under van gaal to moyes & it's clear enough.....

afrodoc: Di Maria is pretty expensive and PSG were in poll position to sign him until recently. The major problem with our deals appears to be Woodward.....he is as clueless in transfer deals as he is accomplished in sponsorship deals. There is something amateurish about the way we have gone about our deals. Lets hope the Manchester United brand and Van Gaal's reputation bridges the gap

you are making plenty assumptions here. firstly, majority of these media-reported targets are mere speculations. there's no evidence united tendered an official bid for di maria or the ones being touted by the media.

secondly, united are not really in a strong position to bring top talents to the club. we aren't in europe - no top talent wants to play for a club that won't be in europe so blaming woodward here is misplaced.

afrodoc: How can u get injured doing nothing more than stretching your hand across the table asking for more food like Oliver Twist?
I can bet that he has a food related injury not a field related one.
The guy has gotten paid far too long for doing nothing......he should be sold already!

be ready to lose your money then cos he had a calf/shin injury & there's no return date yet on his injury.

if anderson comes back, he would naturally partner herrera. all the sidelined players under moyes would be the best performers under louis van gaal.

•young
•fellaini
•cleverley
•kagawa

we are waiting for anderson to prove his worth when he gets back playing. my predictions remain one player for completion. all the anti-young crew are into hiding now. young has shut their mouths with consistent top performance.

SailorXY: how benzema still manages to start is beyond me tho

because madrid are useless.
benzema is not better than welbeck. they should get rid of him & sign falcao. that's the missing link in that madrid attack now. tevez or even aguero would do a better job for them in the attack. benzema lacks a football brain.

Nihilist: There is absolutely no need to panic.
Judging by preseason, United have a squad good enough to challenge for a top 4 finish.
With Van Gaal's extra sengemenge on the table in addition to relatively easy opening fixtures, united should be fast out the blocks and in the front of the pack early, and who knows what could happen from there?
I don't see what all the concern is about tbh, afterall most of these guys are multiple title winners who last won the league less than 2 years ago.

all our players are injury prone....
although, van gaal ordered for the pitch on the carrington complex to be ripped off & we won't have european commitment, i still want us to have 2 good players per position. rooney is one injury away & that applies to the defenders & at least half of the midfield.

all4naija: You are a loser. How does that relate to create Ebola virus? It is cleaar you have no valid point the reason you posted Tuskegee syphilis study. I don't think you even read the link before making noise. You are dumb indeed! I am ashamed of you.

you are a product of a polyandrous marriage.
this is why your head is so far up your arsë. i dunno why you people are so dumb you think the american government & big pharmaceutical companies are angels. now that you have seen tuskegee experiment and how black people were lured to take part with just $50, what do you have to say now, you moròn?

did GSK not plead guilty to felony 2 years ago and was asked to pay $3 billion fine for falsifying & unlawfully promoting a prescription drug they want to sell? are they not part of the companies looking for the ebola cure? you are in a loop, a stüpidity loop if i may add if you cannot see the conspiracy in this issue.

StarBoard: Coogar is not gonna be happy.
Fella is on the bench while Anderson is nowhere near the pitch.
His boys are being sidelined.
Shaw might not last under van Gaal. Evans might have been given time off. I dunno

fellaini started from the bench & got the winner. minus his goal, he was outstanding. anderson is injured......he won't be back till end of august.

bushdoc9919: No they did not. Unless you have proof.

use your head, they created it!
what were the US biowar researchers doing in the ebola zone in the first place?

And Ebola is a poor weapon. For a really good virus disease that killed 50 million people worldwide....of every race BTW....you need to lookback to the 1918 Flu viral epidemic.

we are talking about the recent epidermic in west africa. where did it suddenly come from? you mean somebody in liberia just woke up & developed the ebola symptoms out of nowhere?

Ebola is also bad because it is not airborne, and can only be spread via repeated contact with an infected person.We suffer a lot from Ebola...because we are paying the price for poor investment in preventive public health....indeed in healthcare as a whole. Healthcare in Africa is under-resourced and under-staffed...because you people prefer looters to developers in power.

africa suffered a lot from ebola this year because this recent outbreak was artificially created to sell drugs - that's my point.

Viral diseases have been with us for centuries....maybe longer than that.Science has only been able to classify them in the last 60 years. Plus....viruses easily get mutated...especially in the course of transmission.(That's why they get dangerous sometimes).

stop making your own argument - where did the outbreak in liberia come from? the atmosphere couldn't have just released Ebola virus in the air. what was the source?

Oh and sorry....MOST viral diseases have no cure...including the common cold, the polio virus and the diarrhoea causing rota virus.
False accusation.

irrelevant to the discussion. stop lecturing me about virus. that's not the argument.

They have been doing research since the virus was discovered in 1976.....and the therapies are the fruit of the research. Plus.....this isn't the first serious Ebola outbreak....Uganda 2000 was bad....as Gabon. 1996. Research from the Gabon 1996 outbreak was essential in developing the vaccine by Tekmira....as well as the serum

virus was discovered or virus was let loose on the african soil so that they can monitor it's symptoms on humans? you are behind the curve.

Infact, thinking behind the serum development is not new...a similar process is used to make anti-tetanus serum for example. Also,an early treatment for measles involved something similar.

your thinking is anti-clockwise.
horrible researches give birth to these diseases in the first place. in order to gain knowledge & advancement, they let loose on poor africans as control experiment so they can study symptoms & ultimately get the cure. africans are being used as lab rats.

Thing is....it is still going to take at least fifteen years before we are sure Tekmira's vaccine works.(It is a vaccine....not a drug). As for drug therapies....Fospanivir is being looked at as a possible cure.

it works & that's the purpose of killing 1,000 people in the first place. create a scare, let the WHO declare an international health emergency & then find a vaccine that most countries in africa would demand.

http://m.naturalnews.com/news/046416_Ebola_vaccine_Tekmira_pandemic_outbreak.html

Plus.....Western companies hardly make profits from anti-virals in Africa(OR indeed for any drugs in Africa)....see the HIV drugs as an example...where profits fell thanks to WHO forcing them to subsidise the drugs....even making them free.

and yet the share price took a massive rise in the last few weeks. you are behind the curve in these matters, you have been vigorously manipulated. drug companies are serial rogues.

all4naija: You are an uneducated and primitive African. Your case is worse than the ignorant. You need help for your backward life! However, only those with the brain of a mouse would side with your view.
This is laughable. Americans are now planning to sell poor Africans Ebola anti-viral drugs to make money. You are r e t a r d e d!

you are a consummate simpleton!
look at this homoerötic peasant - what do you know about what works in the real world? you should donate your brain to lower animals like white mice cos it's of no use to you.

america is not innocent when it comes to issues like this. read up on tuskegee experiment, you obdurate wankër! read up on how they injected syphilis into black people. the problem with indolent twits like yourself is that your IQ at various phases in your life are in single digits.

http://m.naturalnews.com/news/045923_tuskegee_medical_experiments_government.html

what's up, textcees?

bushdoc9919: 1,How do you know the Americans created ebola?

2.Do you know anything about viruses?

3.Ebola is not an effective weapon....it is not airborne, and washing your hand can protect you from it.

4.Uganda recently had an outbreak of Ebola. Simple preventive methods meant that very few Ugandans died..



5,You are a Christian....stop lying.

6.Ebola can be prevented!

Source of quote:http://scienceblogs.com/aetiology/2014/08/07/a-historical-perspective-on-ebola-response-and-prevention/

they created it, you retärd!

just like they created SARS, bird flu, anthrax & swine flu. go and check the share price of mapp & tekmira since the outbreak of this disease in west africa.

INTERPOL should investigate anyone in the last 12 months that bought ridiculous number of shares in these 2 pharamaceutical companies. those people created the recent ebola disease in west africa.

africa is the only place they could do that & get away with it. we bury our dead within 24 hours without autopsy. they created the scare - made sure more than 1,000 people killed. they made sure WHO declared ebola as an international health emergency & all of a sudden, they found a secret-serum.

you can imagine when this drug hit nigerian stores, people would buy it & hoard it in millions - cos no one wants to die. that's the plan from the outset: create a problem from nowhere and make africans pay through their noses to buy them. dollar would get stronger & naira would continue to crash as we all seek the cure of an artificial disease.

YoungDaNaval: Oga Long Time....prolly a Rectangular Clock.

Na u ah find come here oh!

wassup?
how you dey? i will visit you guys this evening.

StarBoard: http://www.bbc.com/sport/live/28624989

dayo should come & tell us how reliable bild is. we need an experienced defender in our back 3. hummels would be a perfect fit.

america's collateral damage!

may the priest R.I.P. but african leaders are supposed to be asking questions. only a fool would not see this ebola matter is a big conspiracy created by america. somebody somewhere made money with this scam after claiming about 1,000 african lives.

StarBoard: Please tell all our people here o, make dem here word.

it's a deadline transfer. if it's going to happen, it would be around 31st of august.

Blind has said he would love to play for van Gaal, so i see no reason why that transfer hasn't happened yet. He wouldn't even cost too much sef, given van Gaal's affiliations with Ajax.

then woodward should pull his finger out already.

On a side note,
I hear Rafael is being told he can leave Old Trafford. that would be a shocker, if true.

don't believe that dailymail nonsense. read the article itself & see there's no truth in it. just a useless journalist trying to drive traffic. everything he said there was his own opinion.

It looks like he still hasn't learned from the fiasco of last summer.
Which is a shame because it makes you wonder how he got that job at a club like United.

But David levy of Spurs is the devil-come-to-life of all CEOs on earth.
That fellow can negotiate a 10 million fee for a corpse as long as it has a contract with Spurs.

levy & that chairman in lyon are the daddies of all CEOs.

Our saving grace.
Otherwise we are in deep shyte the way we've been so far this preseason.
Our defence is my primary headache. We do not have any veteran leading the line there. I kind of wonder why we didn't offer Smalling in exchange for Vermaelen given that he (Smalling) is a terrible passer of the ball and needs to have his confidence sky high all the time to function at decent levels.

all the central defenders we could have offered are home grown. we need to keep that quota up.

I personally do not think he is available. I think it's the media running the show on this one as well.
One coach I've learnt to take seriously is Juergen Klopp. He doesn't rant just like every other coach in Europe. If he says Hummels is staying I think I'd rather believe him.
As usual no contact with Dortmund has been established. Even if we were to tyr to prise him away from them. So i'm thinking you might get your petrol and firewood ready to start that riot.

we should just sell shaw back to city & cop hummels if he's available. they got slaughtered by liverpool at anfield yesterday although klopp fielded mostly reserve players & the youth team.

StarBoard: what ive been telling peeps here.
Someone whose fitness is questionable deserves every bit of caution before signing.No matter whom it is.
Vidal needs to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he can add to us. its no point paying £45 million or there about for someone who will be spending more time in the treating room than on the pitch. As much as we need someone like him, I don't see the need to gamble with someone who is yet to prove his fitness.

tear of the lateral meniscus is a very bad injury to have. if we are not careful, this is owen hargreaves all over again. this is the kinda injury that screwed the career of ledley king. every time he tried running with his knee, it kept getting inflamed & that was because he didn't let it heal the first time.

van gaal's patience is justified - vidal didn't start in their friendly against an australian team. i am guessing this would be a deadline transfer if it's going to happen at all. vidal must be given time to play before we sign the dotted lines.

Not sure what we need now is Cuedrado.
Blind may be ok for ball handling but I prefer Vlaar to him from the Dutch side to Brazil.
Even at that there is no enquiry made for him by us so far.

those kinda transfers are dead-on!
let's take care of the difficult ones first. blind & his club cannot turn our offer down if it comes. blind would love to play for van gaal again & again.

Woodward is a dunce.
I thought the way he was rushing back to the UK and running his mouth we would be unveiling a plethora of signings.

he rushed back the same way last season & he failed at it. he's a posh boy, he cannot get his hands dirty & get things done like that crook at spurs or david dein of arsenal.

However this situation is a partly caused by van Gaal not having the full summer to evaluate United and identify signings due to his participation in Brazil. Though not his fault entirely, I just believe we would have had an idea as to what our side would look like if he wasnt in Brazil.

thank feck we have easy fixtures in our first 8 league games. i expect nothing less than 22 points in those fixtures. we can afford to wait till the 31st to see what woodward has in store for us. if it's true hummels is available @ £25m and we fail to buy him, i will start a riot.

Keky: Ramsey > Yaya Toure

based on 45 mins?
nah - toure is so much better than this. he's clearly unfit. the coming season would tell us more.

capricornian: I do not think we can sell Valenncia for 20M... Who willl buy Carrick for 15M??

any of everton, swansea, spurs, west brom, stoke, etc would bite carrick off our hands.

At the moment as starting to be worried about these whole Transfer saga. I thought by now unwanted players would have been released ad needed players bought to have more time to solidify the team play and understanding. I think there are lots of things we fans are not aware of and I strongly doubt LVG would reject Hummels without having a better option.

I hope some movements are made to happen this week else.......

it's far trickier than that.
vidal has dodgy knees - we wouldn't want hargreaves situation all over again. vidal was rushed back to play the world cup after having knee surgery. he didn't let the knee heal before going to brazil - there's a very high tendency he might have aggravated the knee and that would be bad market for us.

van gaal wants to be sure everything is right before splashing £45m on arturo. nothing will happen until juventus return back to italy. there are rumours his agent is ready to tender our bid to their club so let's keep our fingers crossed. moving on......we should have tied up
cudrado & blind by now. i dunno what that mumu woodward is doing. since he returned back from america, he has not done a single deal.

allycat: All the autistic children I have come across were born to young women all below the age of 35. It's Down's syndrome that is age related but actually occurs quite frequently in younger mothers in this part of the world.

then reduce the age to 30.....
autism is age related as well. the maternal age is very important. the older the mother, the higher the risk of autism.

[img]http://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/newsroom/images/Autism_Rate_per_1000_births.jpg[/img]

if it's true hummels is available @ £25m and woodward is reluctant to pay, then he's a bastärd. how can we pay £28m for an unproven, untested & overrated featherweight like luke shaw & miss out on hummels?

we need these 4 players asap....
buy
vidal(£45m)
hummels(£25m)
cudrado(£20m)
moses simon - the nigerian ronaldo(£2m)



sell:
valencia(£20m)
carrick(£15m)

tbaba1234: Not really, recently a colleague of dad found out that his child had the condition.

The future for such kids is much bleaker in Africa.

I guess it is just empathy.

it's pretty simple.....
we cannot continue to discuss autism without looking at the causes. women older than 40 years of age should stop giving birth.

if any woman feels her career is going to delay childbirth, she should remove & freeze her eggs till when she's ready. the older a mother is when she gives birth, the higher her child's risk of autism.

this is the kind of awareness the NGOs in nigeria should be dishing out, but they would rather organise a street dance with the shepopotamus @ aso rock! autism should be as much awareness as the sickle-cell especially in a judgemental society like nigeria.

@tbaba,

tell your dad's colleague to take his autistic child to the bar beach. the child should be put on a horse. it's not a cure, but it improves the condition of the child.

elampiro: That disjointed interview? Where they had to refer to another interview perhaps conducted by another journalist? Perhaps Suarez poor English? Looks to me he was trying to say Sturridge is a natural number 9. Not really that he has been playing 9. It could also mean that he referred to a just finished match.

You compare that with verifiable records?

you are a disgrace to all the people of edo state. why is it so difficult for you to admit you are clueless? he wasn't saying sturrudge is the natural-9, he said sturridge is the number-9 in their set up & how it's important for him to always be in the box.

suarez is the hard worker that drops deep & dribbles everything in his way into the opponents box. sturridge mostly sits on the shoulder of the last defender. that's what suarez is explaining & he even said he felt less pressure whenever he was about to start a match cos sturrudge now carries the responsibility to score the goals!

elampiro: I have produced his data from two credible sources.

but they can never know better than suarez. find us an interview where sturridge says suarez is number-9 or where sturridge said he's number-10. shikena!

elampiro: I have published almost all Liverpool matches with top 6 or 7 teams. Including two lower teams. Where has Suarez even played in the wing. Yet they want us to think he scored 30+ goals from the wing.


I beg I have things to do with my precious time and life. This isn't funny anymore. This is a bad habit.

you lost when suarez himself said he isn't the number 9. ZM cannot know better than the striker himself. go home, tell your wife to apply balm to the body blows you received tonight.

unless you can find any sturridge interview where he said suarez is the number 9, just shut it & go to bed. even liverpool fans were discussing it in the link below when an article suggested sturridge is more of the big game player & suarez is a flat-track bully.

http://forums.liverpoolfc.com/threads/356691-Who-is-the-big-game-player-Sturridge-or-Suarez-Check-this-out

liverpool fans all agreed sturridge was usually the player furthest on the pitch. suarez would drop deep, dribble his way to the front & feed his strike partner the ball.

elampiro: Look at the man who told us few days ago that the press quote what they like.

Coogar, why art thou so confused? You have tortoise and tortoise so tayyyyyyyyyyyy you tortoised your own sense.

are you an idiöt?
suarez was quoted clearly - he said "i am not the real number-9". that's present continuos tense. you said he was referring to the last 2 games. if he was, then his answer would have been "i was not the real number-9."

the use of english has exposed your illiteracy yet again. woe betide oshiomole & igbinedion for denying you your rights to quality education. you are so poor in spirit, your dreams are in black & white.

* I have given you facts upon facts. I gave you a link to Suarez 31 starts from CF. I have given you evidence that he played as a CF. But you maradonad yourself to think he was a right winger. Self delusionnnn!!!

and when suarez started as CF, where was sturridge? suarez himself confessed he is not the real 9 & you cannot have 2 players in the same exact position. sturridge was the furthest player to mignolet. suarez darted deep & wide.

elampiro - one suarez interview has exposed you as a fraud, a pathological liar & a scumbag!

Nihilist: So you guys haven't noticed that you are both right?

The Sturridge-Suarez-Sterling combo was so fluid that they played and interchanged across the frontline.

You guys are like Batman and the Joker. You need each other

the fluidity is not the debate here but the positions the duo took during games. football is forever fluid. was ronaldo a striker when he scored 42 goals for man utd?

that's elampawa's argument - since ronaldo scored that much - it must mean he stood as a centre forward on the shoulders of the last defender of the opposing team.

elampiro: ^^

Suarez even played higher.

Ukwu!!!

he played higher when he confessed himself he wasn't the real number-9 in the area. so who's the real-9 for liverpool then, was it emenike?


elampawa - you are a fücking disgrace.
in your stüpid images you stole from ZM, sturridge wasn't on the pitch when suarez was in the centre forward position, how does that connect to the argument?

the question is - where did suarez play when sturridge was on the pitch?

elampiro: See evidence up there and stop talking. Suarez may have said that after one or two matches of shuffling. I have gi en you countless concrete proof.

shut the fück up, you homoerötic lunatic....he might have said that after 1 or 2 matches my foot! his english is as clear as daylight. suarez said himself he is not the real number-9 for liverpool. he just gets the license to roam when sturridge drifts wide according to the pattern the game dictates.