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[quote author=BABE!]I don't know why we can't just all eat out cakes and have it. Can't person just fucck without pikin matter? Abi na by force? Nawa.[/quote]with these women, na by force. they are ultra-desperate. hitting them means they must be part of a man's life till the end of time. even though God hasn't joined them together, they are ready to overrule Him and stick to men that don't want them like a tick on a dog.

Mondisweets: how is it premeditated when you were taught right from primary school (if you did go to one) that the best solution is abstinence, thats if you don't want children outside marriage!

it's premeditated because they carefully choose their victim & entrap him into their world of shyte. women have told lies about their birth control pills.....women have lied about allergy to condoms.....women have rummaged the bin to inseminate themselves with a man's seeds while he's washing off in the bathroom. so biology doesn't cut it with unscrupulous women!

It cant be premeditated if you already know the possible consequences of your actions. Stop playing victim!

it's premeditated when she gets rid of the child of a poor partner but refuses to abort the baby of a rich partner.

why should women be the only ones who bear the side effects of birth controls, if you also have an option stop sticking your diiiick in any vagina you see because you were unfortunate enough to be given a diiiiiick! Recreation or procreation, fact still remains a woman can still fall pregnant if you have sex with her. You clearly missed all your biology lessons right from grade 5, kindly go back and learn a thing or 2.

and it's expected of her to get rid of it if her partner wants no child. failure to do this is gross irresponsibility on her part.

i already said if u give consent to a particular action, you would have automatically given consent to the consequences that result from such an action!

that doesn't answer the question.
can a man stop a woman that is not interested in having a child when the man genuinely wants one?

[quote author=BABE!]This is the sentimental BS we're taking about. A 15 year old boy fuccking is "matured" enough to be a father? A 15 year old female fuccking is matured enough to be a mum? Some 30 year olds aren't even ready to be parents. How can you equate the readiness of being a parent to the ability to cop an erecction?

I cannot.[/quote]he just finished drinking shekpe - don't blame him. i wonder how these women are not asking child support when they go to spërm banks to refill their radiators. who knows - they might start demanding that in a couple of years.

Mondisweets: this is absolute rubbish if a man can prove that the mother is in a better financial position than him, the the court may decide to put more financial obligations on her instead!

Like i said this is the kind of ignorance i hate, you think that child will breastfeed herself? Will she change her own diapers? Will she to go doctors appointments by herself? Will she whether learn how to talk and walk by herself?

If you don't want to take care of the financial responsibilities why don't u grow breasts and breastfeed her! Change the diapers! Change the diapers! Stay up all night with her! Teach her how to walk and talk. Take care of her until she is old enough to take care of herself instead!
You think a child can survive on money alone without someone else rearing her?

cry me a river & build the golden gate bridge and get over it. who forced this woman to carry the baby to term? she didn't know that babies will wear diapers and will need breastmïlk?

Anacksunamun: The funny and hypocritical thing about the embolden is that, you can never hear a woman that wants to get rid of a pregnancy was powerless about it. It's then they will EFFECTIVELY kill off the spérm cells after few minutes, but if they want to keep the baby, they'll whip up a thousand reasons as to why "it's the responsibility of the man". Nonsense!! Makes me wonder how 'próstitutes' effectively never keep babies they don't want even though they engage in séx all the time.

maybe pröstitutes have supernatural powers that ordinary women don't have. the moment they sense the man has got a potential or he's ready-made then the babies are immune to abortion. see how they are all over 2face like a rash. irresponsible lots with no shame or decorum. half of the nigerian ladies have no problems getting pregnant for 2face - his celebrity status turns them on.

Mondisweets: why are u still making noise? I already told you that if you think the system of this world is unfair towards men, go get a vasectomy and sleep around. See if anyone will make a support a child u did not create.
Or better yet buy a blow up doll like suggested by naijababe, Bleep it until you die and see if anyone will bother you

this advice is actually for you.....
you are the one that can get pregnant, not me. since you are claiming the actions are premeditated then it goes to follow women can be very daft in the choices you make.

why should i get vasectomy when you can also get tubal ligation? it goes both ways. there's no point forcing parenthood on any man because you are lucky to own a vagîna. your vägina doesn't necessarily make you suitable enough to be the mother of a man's kids. recreation is different from procreation - go and learn the difference!

Anacksunamun: Yeah right. So what of when the man wants to keep the baby, and the woman doesn't want to birth the child or doesn't want to get pregnant and uses contraceptives to kill off the spérm cells? So the man's opinion shouldn't count also? So the decision to keep a baby should be one sided but the decision to have séx should be two-sided/consensual? I want to see your take in this question I asked.

i have been asking that question since page one, none of them has an answer to it. they have no problem with a woman deciding solely to have an abortion but they are claiming two people consented to make a child!

bunch of fraudulent gits!

carefreewannabe: Evidence, please. Anyone can claim anything.

what evidence do you need? you mean you don't know single mothers are poorer then their male counterparts?

Like I said, no need to sleep with people you don't know or don't trust.

and we are saying trust is not enough! talk to your fellow women to stop getting pregnant deliberately to trap men into their world

You don't know me so you better stop comparing yourself to me but one thing is sure, I do not live in a match-box.

i don't need to know you very well. your cost of living anywhere else in europe would be 10%,of anyone staying around west london.

WHO SAYS SO ?
So everyone who is against abortion is against contraceptives?
Where do you get your information from?

if she's not against it, how was she able to carry the baby to term? you mean all the known contraceptives she should have taken before & after the deed failed her?

Pre-marital sex is not the same as abortion. Abortion CAN be considered murder.

but it's not considered murder in the developed countries where the laws are forcing men to pay for the kids they never wanted. that's the twist. if abortion was illegal in the UK/US then you may have a point, but it isn't.

If you get a woman pregnant the child is YOURS whether you want it or not and whether you call it a "bastard" or not.

just because a woman possesses a vägina does not necessarily qualify her as a mother of my child.

Did I say so? Where?
Are you again pulling "facts" out of the blue?

that's what you are implying. she can do whatever she pleases with her body but she has a right to question what a man does with his money. that's just bunkum!

This is your opinion, thank God the Western legislation does not act on your maxim.

this point has been overused.
western legislation once backed slavery - does that make it right? do i need to start listing what legislators backed in the past that are now very illegal?

[quote author=baby_123]It's your baby, it's a product of the gift you left behind. Men also trap successful women. I don't see women crying about that. They own up and have the baby most times. The man may end up getting paid to take care of the baby. Or he runs away leaving the woman to do it all. So it goes both ways. If you are not ready for your babies to start coming, use a condom and use it well. Stop using expired condom or having sex upside down without checking if it's still in place. Smh[/quote]how can a man trap successful woman with a baby? if he puts the hole in the condom & he puts the seed inside her, you mean the woman is powerless to do something to a baby she doesn't want? what a spin!

a woman would only give birth to a child if she wants to. there's no accidental baby. she has about 9 months after the sex to do something if she doesn't want the baby - an option no man has got and yet you are comparing both sexes? surely, you are reaching.....

Mondisweets: when our black men keep displaying this kind of ignorance and stupidity, why won't other races think so lowly of us as a whole?
Then you complain when other races mistreat you abroad because of the colour of your skin when all you bring to their countries is your shallow-mindedness!

stop lumping it on race. white men have been complaining for aeons as well. they hate the fact that they are paying for children they never wanted. go and check google & see fathers killing their own children & themselves just because they are tired of getting screwed by unscrupulous women.

Please have u ever been forced to take care of a child that does not have a DNA before? Stop being an idi.ot, if that child has your genes he is your child, you accept it or not.

are you a dreamer?
haven't we cited cases where non-biological fathers were forced to pay child support just because the mother claimed the child has come to adopt the man as his father & it would be unfair on the child to be told otherwise? why are you arguing absent common sense?

If sex outside marriage is not for procreation, how are these unmarried women falling pregnant!

these unmarried women are getting pregnant deliberately because they possess poop for brains! they are selfish, irresponsible, priggish, irresponsible with no gift of foresight. they would rather keep the vicious cycle of poverty & raising a child without a father figure than doing the simple deed of getting rid of the embryo before the period is missed!

[quote author=Mr_TA]Its not so much that it worked, i was more impressed by the balls and the preparation to do it as i read Krul hasnt really got an impressive penalty saving record. 2/20 apparently for Newcastle.

I still dont think theyll win the world cup but either way LvG will lift the club like crazy now because he is obviously a top manager who is vastly experienced and has massive balls. [/quote]to be honest, whether they win it or not at this stage matters no more. LVG is the only manager left in the competition that has won every world cup game. that places him far and above the others as we speak. he's managed to transform a very average dutch team to a an excellent one amidst criticism from his own countrymen. this current side isn't 10% as good as the 1998 team that reached the semis and yet they have achieved the same feat!

LvG is god!

carefreewannabe: Ok, fact is STILL that forty-three percent of all single parents in GB are nearly poor or poor.

and that's because they don't make the right choices. they would be poorer if they weren't parents.

It does NOT protect them from unwanted pregnancies or STDs. If a man chooses to sleep around with women he does not know then it should be at HIS own risk.

and that would be because some women are deceitful lethargic devils, right?

I was talking about two rooms. TWO rooms with hubby and baby in the West ? I used to have two rooms as a student.

who is talking 2 rooms? i mean 2-bedroom flat complete with a living room, kitchen, bathroom, storage, etc. look at you - you think single women are given just adjoining rooms without a living room & their kitchen in the UK?

I was talking about rooms, not bedrooms but my standards are higher than yours, obviously. I wouldn't pay a fortune for match-box

as usual, you have managed to create your own argument out of nowhere. i didn't mention rooms, i said 2-bedroom flat and that means a flat that has 2 bedrooms plus a living room, kitchen, storage, etc. they are very expensive on this isle. what i pay in my postcode a month should be about what you pay in a year.

Some people are against abortion.

and they are also against femidoms, IUD, pills, hormonal implants, etc. she's against every contraceptive measure but not against premarital sex?

If you don't want a child, don't have sex or at least make sure you don't get the lady pregnant. If you do, be a man and take responsibility.

sex is for recreation if i am not married. any woman who thinks i am ready to raise bastärds with her must be rëtarded. i don't need to spell it out to her. if i want a child by her, i must get married to her first & foremost. i trust the women i hang with anyways, they don't consider populating the planet with bastärds as a monumental achievement. if they take in, they would get rid without even letting me know..........

There is a solution. Don't ph... around. It is not that hard. Sorry for the choice of words.

that's not the solution - the solution is dön't fück desperate unambitious women. some women have common sense and they do the needful - credits to them. the issue at hand is focused on the unscrupulous lazy twits who see forcing parenthood on their men as a career.

Coogar, as we know him, double-standards without limits

the irony - you are the one applying double standards here. see your argument: if a man wants a baby & the woman isn't interested in a baby, she should get an abortion regardless of her partner's feelings.......but when the man doesn't want a baby & the woman wants it, she should keep it regardless of her partner's feelings. can you not see the fraud in your argument?

If you ph... around, you take responsibility. Very simple! If you don't like it, get a ticket back to rotten Nigeria.

irresponsibility is birthing a child one of the parents doesn't want. populating the planet with unwanted babies is the genesis of irresponsibility.

Mondisweets: so what will your child survive on, if you decide not take care of him/her. If u don't want your wallet to be taking care of your extra marital children, why don't you abstain from sex?
Why dont u get yourself a peanut butter and jelly sandwich every time you get hor.ny ?

a baby i don't want isn't my child. if i clearly told her to get rid and she refused then the child care is her sole responsibility.

why should i abstain from sex? sex between unmarried people = recreation. sex between married people = procreation. that a man wants to sleep with a woman doesn't qualify her as a mother of his child. he just wants to get off! women should get the memo. if some women are responsible at all, why would they want a child for a man that doesn't consider them good enough as a mother of his child?

na by force?

[quote author=baby_123]That's right. She didn't have a say in you not wearing a condom. It is a shared responsibility. She takes care of your baby, you pay for the care. It's called responsibility for your actions. A baby cannot be undone if the mother wants to keep it. So for your foolishness you have to pay. There is a price to pay for everything we do in this world. Your money in this case is just one of them. If you don't want a baby, protect yourself and your wallet. If you still go around doing without condom and expecting abortions, you will meet a real weyrey that will show you with that baby. In fact, frustration will be the least of your issues[/quote]what about the men who actually wore condom & it broke? what about the men that were trapped by pregnancy? she takes care of my baby? how is it my baby if i didn't want it?

i don't understand you women - either you are deliberately trolling or there's a difficulty in applying logic. if the man wants the baby and the woman wants to abort, can the man stop her from doing the abortion?

[quote author=baby_123]See people trying to tell a woman what to do with her body. How about you protect yourself and your future and stop looking for quick fixes like abortions. Who knows the woman's condition and if an abortion will not endanger her life. What of her beliefs. Stop having indiscriminate sex. The least of your worries should be pregnancy. Wear better rain coat.[/quote]i shouldn't have a say in what a woman does to her body. by the same token, she shouldn't have a say in what i do with my wallet. keep your body, i keep my wallet. don't force men to pay child support when women can't be forced to do an abortion.

it goes both ways!

carefreewannabe: Do not sleep with this sort of women, simple!
The child support given by the government does not make a woman well-off. Like I said, single parents on welfare are poor or almost poor.

they are poor when the kids are 1 or 2. anything more than 5 kids in the UK & she's swimming in unlimited funds with a very biig house to boot!

You should know the person you sleep with.

men don't need to. we just want sex, no emotions, no sentiments & in some cases no future plans. sex is a physical expression to men just like a handshake or a hi-5. a man can sleep with a woman without even knowing her name.

The child grows. Squeezing in in a two room aprtment with three people is not a good business opportunity in my world, neither do I know people who think this way, I have higher standards, so do my family members and friends.

so a couple with a newborn staying in a 2-bedroom house have no standards? you talk a lot of bullshït during the day. i think you need to lie down.

Like I said, the people I know who live in the UK have higher standards and other job opportunities. I don't surround myself with this kind of people.

lies!
man & wife and their newborn staying in a 2-bedroom house is the highest standard in the UK. stop telling us rubbish like you stay here to know what obtains. so how many bedroom house should this couple & their child be staying? 5-bedroom? in the UK? when the government is considering bedroom tax?

Men should know the women they sleep with instead of putting their joysticks into women they know nothing about. The blame is on them. This is what you get from sleeping around with strangers. No pity at all.

but women shouldn't know the man whose baby they would carry for 9 months? if he's not interested in her child, why carry it to term if she's not a selfish disgusting human being?

It takes two to tango.

in the case of an unwanted child, two didn't tango. one wants the child, the other didn't want the child. two did not tango!

And children should suffer for their parent mistakes, right?

why populate the planet with unwanted children. if they can't be taken care of, why have them? why bring innocent children into the world to suffer? absent dad, poverty stricken mother & a life of shyte. is that fair on the child?

These men should stop being promiscuous instead of whinning when the deed is done. The children are innocent and the adults need to take responsibility instead of complaining for what they themselves are responsible for.

no, women should stop being promiscuous. a man still gets to ask her for sex. the ultimate decision is with her. if she disagrees, no sex will take place. without sex, there can be no baby.

tatiana009: My own is any man who says he doesn't want the child and refuses to pay child support must back his actions by relinquishing all rights to the child. What happens a lot in Africa is that the man will say he doesn't want the child and he won't ever pay a dine towards the child's upbringing but then 10years down the line when he "needs" a male child or he can't have another child he will reappear and start demanding for the same child. You can't have it both ways

i agree with this!
if he states he doesn't want the baby, the woman should drag him to court to relinquish his rights towards that child. he wants no part of him and he should never ever return to claim what he is not his.

one can always count on tatiana to be reasonable.

@pickabeau, if you ever need to discuss feminism/female rights, tatiana009 is about the only one that will discuss without emotions or sentiments. the debate i had with her months ago is the best i have had in the history of this forum.

Mondisweets: and we are saying if you are a reasonable man, and you make a woman pregnant (and she does not terminate the pregnancy) , simply get ready to work 2 jobs if you have to, just to give that child a decent life

and i am saying if you are a reasonable woman who cannot terminate your pregnancy with a boyfriend, close your legs - get a dildò when hörny. if you then get knocked up with a man who is not interested in the baby, leave his wallet out of your selfish decision. he wants no part of it!

carefreewannabe: I only said that giving examples of celebrities does not make much sense as they are not representative of the majority.

celebrities aren't the only one targeted here. average joes are targeted by these unscrupulous women as well. the key is to have a child to use as a tool to either squeeze the government or the father that never wanted the child.

We are arguing the question here if a man is responsible for a child he did not want and as you can see there are different perspectives. I consider the question from a child's perspective. I don't care about fathers who sleep with mad, classless, umambitious women. It is not the child's fault.

neither is it the father's fault. someone's self-centred decision brought the child into the equation after she was told to get rid.

So living in a two room apartment with three people is good business?

very good business. extra £400 income is good business without having to sweat for it. a baby doesn't know which room he/she is entitled to.

If a man sleeps with women who think that living with three people in a two room apartment is a good business opportunity to earn four hundred pounds then it tells me a lot about the class of people he interacts with and the type he must be

£400 pcm is good business to anyone staying in the UK.

Any man who sleeps with such a woman is to blame and to take the responsibility for his carelessness.

nonsense talks! that's because women wear their housing arrangement on their heads for the men to see, shey?

How many women are like this? Majority?
Are these women reason enough not to consider the children a PRIORITY?

they aren't - the scheme has raised millions of bastards in abject poverty who then turn into crime & complete a vicious cycle.

Have you got a better solution then?

yes - stop rewarding unmarried women. only divorcees or widows should be rewarded with child support. any unmarried/single woman should be given the choice of abortion, adoption or take care of the child with her own money.

When people confront you with statistics, you ALWAYS say they are tosh but fail to provide your own. No need to use vulgar language.

2% of 66 million heads(UK population) is 1.3 million. if you think the welfare of 1 million people should not be looked into then you shouldn't be taken seriously on any issue.

Mondisweets: Lets make this easier for both of us. Before we all agree that men should not be forced to maintain a child he did not plan to have, kindly tick the points any mentally sound man doesn't know before engaging in sexual activity

1.) condoms aren't 100%
2.) condoms break
3.) a woman can get pregnant is she has sex
4.) contraceptives do not guarantee a 100% of a woman not falling pregnant
5.) a woman can still fall pregnant, whether you want to marry her or not
6.) babies only come after a man and a woman have sex.
7.) engaging in sexual activity with any woman may result in pregnancy or STIs

If a mentally sound male doesn't know all of this by the age of 12 then we can all say screw every woman's right to life, human integrity, bodily and psychological integrity that where created by which assshole who came up with International Human Rights. Every woman should abort, whether there is a possiblity of her dying from it or not, since all that matters is the fact that the father doesn't want to live up to his responsibilities

and we are saying even after your points 1-7, a sensible woman with a good head on her shoulders shouldn't have a child with a man that doesn't want her to be a mother. it's unfair to all the parties involved.

carefreewannabe: No, it is not fair but I am sure they know how to take care of themselves.

if it's not fair then why argue at all?

She gets an additional room because there is an additional person. The room is for the child.

except that she doesn't give the other room to her child in most cases. she rents it out and make extra income. that option is not available without the child. the average rent of such rooms per month is about £400.

It is all done in the child's best interest and there is nothing wrong with a society making children a priority. And now tell me how much child maintenance a mother gets from the tax payer weekly.

it depends on the number of children she's managed to have had with as many men. there is a woman making £40,000 per year on benefits alone but she has 9 kids. £40,000 per year is N10m & that puts her amongst the top 10% of the highest salary earners in the whole of britain.

Again! It is done for the child! A child should not suffer because MOTHER and FATHER are failures. You are so gender-biased and focused on women that you fail to consider what is best for CHILDREN who are INNOCENT.

and i am telling you women deliberately drag these innocent children into the equation to enjoy the perks government is dishing out like father christmas. in the UK, a lazy woman can get pregnant on purpose with a homeless man every year & start claiming benefits.

how is that not premeditated?

Proof!
No! This is Coogar logic. All single parents profit from being single parents.

i never said that - you are the master of twisting what people say. there are single mothers who don't even collect a dime from the father of their child but the system has a loophole that gluttonous women are taking advantage of!

At least I have logic.

no you don't!
that A can be B doesn't mean B can be A

I guess you have forgotten how you have misunderstood some of my comments

you are the one finding it hard to apply logic. all the £1m houses occupied by single mothers doesn't mean all single mothers stay in £1m houses.

I am the one who works with statistics and does not fail to prove her claims instead of referring to celebrities who make up 2% of the entire population.

your statistics are tosh!
even if it's one celebrity in the entire UK that is open to target by some unscrupulous slüt, he should be protected.

Tell us where you reside in London and we will take it from there.

ask around....

Mondisweets: you do know child support is paid according to the needs of the child that can actually be proven and not something that comes out of the ass of the person who has custody of the child, again i ask you show me where it says the word parent only refers to the father? Both parents have a legal duty to cater for the financial needs of a child. Never was it ever made the sole responsibility of the father (not even according to English law). So stop acting as if the word parent only applies to the father.

nah - child support is calculated based on the income of the man. if the child of a school teacher and the child of a millionaire have the same needs, they will not get the same child support income.

Then again maybe jobless grown assss women are your type that why u keep making it seem as if the man is the one who is solely responsible for child support.

why don't you find out the percentage of the custody battle won by women. 71% of the cases are given to women. that's more than 2 in every 3 so what's your point?

The percentage of lone parent households that are mother-headed in the UK is 91% [General Household Survey]. There are some 40,000 disputed custody cases every year which are decided by family court judges.

These judges will listen to recommendations from court welfare officers who visit the family and write 35,000 reports every year. The welfare officers work in the probation service which deals with mostly male criminals, this makes it difficult to see fathers in a positive light. The result is that family courts award mothers sole custody in 71% of cases and fathers sole custody in 7% of all cases, joint custody is awarded in the remaining 21% of cases.

Many fathers report giving up an expensive custody fight for their children after advice from lawyers who say they can't win. It is very common for mothers during custody battles to receive state funded legal aid. A custody battle is therefore a very unequal war of attrition.

Many fathers report that efforts to have contact with their children are blocked by mothers, and the courts will not enforce the right of children to have contact with their fathers.

need i say more?

Mondisweets: so show me where it said parent only refers to the father\man bits relevant because it can prevent a parent with custody of the child from claiming excess money as maintenance for a child duh!

you are doing yourself loads of harm!

did you even read the nonsense you posted? in a situation where the father does not disclose his true income to the child protection agency, then what you posted is the default he must pay.

while he's paying that, CPA will liase with government agencies to find out his true income. this might take months or even years and when it's calculated, he would be required to pay the deficit!

carefreewannabe: No, it is what you read into it. All I said was that they are not representative of ordinary people and of the majority which consists of ordinary people.

even if they make just 1% of the population of ordinary people, is it fair for them to be saddled with unwanted pregnancy? do a set of people have to count as the majority before they should be catered for?

What you are saying here does not make sense at all. A single mother who lives on the bredline would be worse off without a child? Like seriously?

yes, she is.
a single mother of one gets a 2-bedroom house or flat. if she's childless, she might be given a room. a single mother gets child maintenance every week from the tax payer. if she's single, there are no such perks & she gets no priority in housing. she waits on a long queue before she can get a roof over her head.

A single POOR mother gets the minimum from the baby father, around 200 pounds, I guess, FROM WHICH she has to feed and cloth the child and from which she also has to pay for school books, class trips etc so how would she be worse off without the 200 and without the child?

she gets free vouchers, maintenance fees, perks, etc lets just say the government rewards her promiscuity.

Sorry Coogar but this was one of the most illogical comments ever.
So the 43% of single parents whose children are poor live in 1m mansions?
Do your comments make sense to you?

i think you are bereft of logic.....
i said all the £1 million pound mansions funded by the taxpayers are occupied by single mothers. it's a different statement to "all single mothers stay in £1m mansions"

coogar: all boko haram terrorists are muslims
carefree: all muslims are boko haram terrorists!

your logic is baffling!

43 per cent of single parents are social housing tenants compared to 12 per cent of couples (20)

http://www.gingerbread.org.uk/content/365/Statistics. Get your facts right, please

i have addressed your lack of comprehension skills in the comment above.

Nobody forces you to.

you are the one complaining, you are the one that brought it up. surely, you are the one forced to mention a topic that has nothing to do with the discourse.

I stayed in London during my studies and lived with a couple who have a house It is possible.

the people staying in ajegunle would also claim they stayed in lagos. the same london where you have flats at £500 per month is where you will find flats at £10,000 per month. it's not about the size, it's the area.

Mondisweets: i dont like people who just like talking out of their backsides!

you are the one talking out of your backside scooping out an irrelevant piece of information. what is that nonsense you posted? you posted the default payment a man that refused to give the information of his real income to the CPS. how's that applicable to the subject we are discussing?

mikuz: .
Like Ibime rightly pointed out . .
Cooger aint got the answer to give/ he lacks the stamina to spar and compete/ he ll dash to the creek/ when I start packing the heat/
So I'ma keep it candid and brief/ with this radical snitch . .
. . that he best stay back and retreat/
Cos he doesn't need to be told . . that a rematch battle with Mik
. . will subject him . . to a massive defeat!/
I walk the walk, nigga I let my stamina speak/ with raps that put his fans on they feet/
But this pathetic thief/ . . who's known to only talk the talk . . should disembark and exit/
claiming a cannibal beast/ . . But rather than spitting lines on here for his fellow ffags to believe/
Hes using FFR as a platform to chit-chat and decieve!/

You get bamboozled with diss/
lying that ya raps are ruling the streets/
. . when you lack the talent to spit sick in FFR . . cos you clueless with frees/
And you 'll find that he bit mosta his lines . . if you google his scripts!!
Raving lunatic . . hes losing it please!
I leave Cooger in peace/ with nukes I dismiss/
While his weak aims at best . . are 'shooting the breeze'!/

I'm in a hotel room with his niece . .
I bet ya wife too ll give me some bbooby to squeeze/
I don't care if she's fat or she got a bbooty thats slim/
. . cos for long . . my ddick has been "going through thick and thin"!/

How can anyone be proud of this twerp?/
I'ma keep pounding the whelp/ till his head's plucked out from his neck/
You got nothing palatable for the crowd to digest/
No wonder you lack a single verse thats profound in the thread . .
. . So I might as well write you a terrible balance sheet . . since . . you ll never make a good account of ya self!/

I'm hailed in every block from the south to the west/
I ll make Cooger tire and flee/
I got the skills to put my mind in a free/ for this liar to see/ but he needs to apologise to his gee/
. . cos the last time he tried to put his mind in a free . . he got slapped for biting Jay Z!!/

Cooger is known for his blabbing/
I'm never moved by all the nonsense hes capping/
I pity peeps who've developed love for his rapping/
. . cos he lacks the talent to put HIS MIND IN A FREE . . that's why he always resort to chit chatting!/

I don't know why this man is suddenly . . /
. . claiming 'Prince of Persia' after he matched me luckily . . /
But I can bet hes a one hit wonder . . cos he can't regorgitate those kinda raps he brought to me/
. . Our rematch would be like Crouch tryna clash with Kompany . . . /
Cos what you brings to the fans is puppetry . .
Suspicious accounts everywhere . . you got so many wacks covering ya sshit . . Cooger should be named after a napkin company!/

coogar is on a killing spree....kicking bïtch-asś twits/someone tell this lout i don't do rëmatches/
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more snippets from our battle.....cheiii, i did you worse than a dentist fixing an appendix......

kim, can you remember these gems?

I'll ravish the bästard/
Mik is like Ernest Tubb, too old to be cutting the mustard/
You want my throne? You'd die chasing that dream like Patrice Lumumba/
Have your face sliced like garnished cucumber/
You don't have the heart for this game, you are Fabrice Muamba/

carefreewannabe: Hell no! Did I say so?

that's what you implied: he's a celebrity so it shouldn't matter.

You said single motherhood is a lucrative job and I showed you that the reality for many single mothers is very different. Women who have kids with very rich men are an exception not the rule.

yes, it is.....
her life would be much worse if she's just single without a child. single mothers get the highest priority. all the benefit scroungers living in £1m mansions funded by tax payers in the UK are all single mothers.

without their children, they would be in a one-bedroom council flats.

I don't see any reason to pay a huge amount of money for a match-box but to each their own.

that's the harsh realities of staying in london. you pay more!

If you were rich, you would be able to afford to pay for a villa in LONDON. As you are not, there is no reason for you to be worried about women making business from your sperm, right?

size is not value in london. stop using your mgbeke tinted lens to look at things. there is a parking space that can only contain one car in london that cost more than all the houses in your entire street wherever you stay.

it's about the area, not the size of the house.

Mondisweets: why would u want to stop paying child support for your own child?

because i am sure the payment isn't spent entirely on my child. it's called child support not mother/child support. the government & child protection services should enforce women to produce receipts before getting the next cheque.

the fraud case against her will only stop the mother from collecting excess money as maintainence for the child that's it!

fraud against her? when the female affair minister is campaigning that all female prisons should be closed as no women is dangerous enough to be locked behind bars? you are reaching......

There so many other options, you can pay the child's fees directly yourself. Buy the groceries and have them delivered to them (thanks to online shopping you can even do that for someone who is miles away) you can always buy clothes for the child yourself or take the child shopping when u visit him or her.

such options don't exist - it's a direct debit transaction. at a certain day of the month, the money leaves the account of the man to the woman. in some of the cases, the men don't even get to see the progress of the child they are spending the money on. the average price of raising a child into adulthood in the UK is £220,000. do the math!

Or you can file for full custody of the child and live with the child yourself!
There are so many remedies!

if that is so easy, 70% of custody battles won't be won by the women. unless a woman is a drug/alcohol addict or with a history of child abuse, there's no way a court would not give her the custody of the child.

carefreewannabe: Celebrities are humans with a very different life style from the rest and are therefore not representative of the majority so let us have a look at some statistics which are representative of the British population where you reside

and that makes it fair for a woman to saddle them with an unwanted baby?

Single parent families and poverty
Children in single parent families are twice as likely as children in couple families to live in relative poverty. Over four in every 10 (43 per cent)
http://www.gingerbread.org.uk/content/365/Statistics

we have already addressed this issue - they are poor because most of them cannot work full time. they are poor because most of them don't even have top of the range degree certificates. how's a single woman who works part time as a temp because she doesn't like math subjects is expected to compete with his male counterpart?

By the way, didn't you once say your apartment in London resembles a match-box?
In this case, you have nothing to be worried about, do you?

but the rent of that match-box flat is probably your annual rent in your mansion. it's not the size that matters but the value.

cococandy: here's why each case should be treated according to it's own merit. Did they explicitly have the 'I don't want a baby conversation' before sex? If yes,I'm on the side of the guy. But if they had sex and then dude remembers he doesn't want a child after the lady is already pregnant,then that's bullsh1t.

yes....in almost every case.
i don't see how a woman would generally assume a guy wants her to have their baby because he wants sex. if he wants a baby, marriage would be his first step, no?

what about the unfairness to the child he only remembered he didn't want after it was concieved? Here no one cares for mother and father but the welfare of the child in question

he didn't just remember - read the OP's post again. he had stated "no babies" before the sex. he's not ready for a baby and the woman still presses ahead to have a child. whose fault is that?

there's more to this than met the eye. I'd like to know more about it. Hmm

there are thousands of such cases on the internet.

I think I understand why men over there can't stand it. If it's continually used to cheat them,they are human and I understand. Maybe if I was there and think women are getting it fair already,I wouldn't be passionate about it.

so you can understand my grievances but you cannot understand pickaboo's grievance? at least, we are getting somewhere - you are admitting the system is unfair abroad but it's needed in africa.

But What I don't understand is why men here can't stand it. Is it the need to keep their women perpetually shackled?

because they don't want to be miserable like most men abroad. if there's an outbreak of rabies abroad, would you not take preventive measures before it spreads to nigeria? google the male suicide statistics abroad & you will understand the suffering of men.

Mondisweets: if you can prove that a woman is using the child support for her personal gain, why not institute an action of fraud against her? Again it only requires ordinary common sense!

fraud against who? even the glaring case of paternity fraud doesn't stop child support let alone proving she's using it for her personal gain. come to the UK and see women waiting on their child support check to get spa treatment and louis vuitton bags. some of them spend it on their boyfriends. the law does not even hold them accountable to produce the receipt of what they spend the money on.

another reason why you should get to know who you are with before sleeping with her, instead of going up and down london opening the legs of anything in a dress!

sex is for recreation, not for procreation. opening the legs of anything in a dress is a recreational activity. if she consents to it, what's your fuss about it?

so are her chances of dying during the abortion procedure and the chances of her womb being badly damaged!

14 women will die while birthing a child before one woman dies while having an abortion.

carefreewannabe: First of all, celebrities are NOT representative of the majority of people so I do NOT understand why NAIRALANDERS always choose celebrities to make a point.

we use celebrities because that's the people you and i both know. if i said it happened to my uncle, how would you verify my story? celebrities are humans too.

Secondly, how many celebrities do you know that have kids they did not want?

plenty of them - they use millions of dollars to hide their secret love-kids.

Thirdly, how many women have the opportunity to sleep with a celebrity?

10 times more than the women sleeping with the average jòes!

Fourthly, how many women have the opportunity to sleep with a celebrity during the fertile timespan?

with 2 pills of clomid, the time of the month rarely matters.

Now let us talk about ordinary people:
I do not want to reveal too much of my privacy but in the European country where I am located, single mothers are one of the few groups of people most likely to suffer from POVERTY or to be endangered by living on the breadline. This is the reality for single mothers so let us stick to reality.

it's not that they are the most likely, they are at the bottom rung of the poverty ladder. there's a reason for this - women want to be with their men for various reasons even when the men aren't interested. are you trying to be naive here that some women don't deliberately set men up with pregnancies or what are you driving at?

cococandy: no. If two people made a baby. Married or unmarried,they should bear the consequences together. they were both adults and knew what they were getting into

that is if they both agreed to have the baby from the outset. can a man apply for mortgage in his wife's name even when the wife isn't interested in it.....he still goes ahead with the application till it was approved...and then proceeded to use the court to force her to pay monthly payments?

why can't you see the unfairness here?

which is why it can be reviewed if you guys are serious about it

that's why it's called estoppel - it cannot be fought!

believe what you wish. As far as I'm concerned,it is needed here more than ever.

but you can understand why men can't stand it, right?

now you're making up stories

i kid you not! watch this video.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qodygTkTUYM

carefreewannabe: Coogar, tell us how much child support a woman gets for a child. You seem to be perfectly informed.

it's calculated based on the man's income. it then means a woman can premeditate a sex act during her ovulation to sleep with mïkel obi for the purpose of getting pregnant. she knows mikel earns £70,000 per week. of course, her child support income per week will not be less than £15,000 pcm

that's not premeditation?

Mondisweets: so if you know that there are psychotic women that premeditate it, why are you stupid enough to have sex with them?

psychosis isn't written on the forehead. both partners should be honest with each other. if the man clearly states he's not interested in having a child before the act, there's no reason the woman should open her legs for him if he cannot go through abortion or the 20 other birth control methods.

and she is likely to have mental, physical and psychological effects that will affect her wellbeing and health for the rest of her life, if she goes for the abortion.

then she should close her legs. unless she's räped, there's no excuse! women control who they have sex with and when they want sex. women also have the control of reproduction!

There is a chance that she might die during the abortion procedure itself.

this chance is 14 times magnified if she carries the baby to term.

cococandy: There's some merit to this POV
But what about the demerits?

Me I believe in fairness and if the whole scheme is scrapped,some innocent kids will suffer.

it should be scrapped!
if women know there's no money to be made from child support, they will make saner choices. of course, we are not talking about deadbeat dads who married & divorced and ran out of the marriage. we are talking about unmarried folks and in the extreme cases of paternity fraud.

I can't pretend to know the law in the west,but isn't there somewhere it states explicitly that the fathers should pay for their kids only? Or is there a big loophole that allows the judges to manipulate cases as they wish.

If that's so,my advice will be for the young men to be very careful and if possible fight that aspect of the law. Where are the legislators?
It's not only women that get to fight for their rights.

Like the case of that young man I just read now,if I was him I'll appeal that ruling.

appeal which ruling? feminism brought equitable doctrine of estoppel into the equation. that doctrine states the court may hold that because i acted like a parent and permitted the child to rely upon me even though i'm a "stranger" to the child, i have adopted the biological or "real" parent's duty.

in other words, if i befriend a babymama and i was playing a fatherly role throughout our relationship, i could be held to keep providing child support for the child since the little boy has been made to rely on me. a very brilliant law except that it doesn't get enforced when a woman befriends a babyfather.

feminism is about equality? of course it is.

If more young men paying for kids that aren't theirs stood up to fight it,it'll surely become unpopular and on it's way out.
Dating someone and being nice to her kids doesn't make you responsible for them.

fight for what?
whenever men gather to hold these meetings about the sufferings they are experiencing from their partners, feminists go there and disrupt the meetings.

Mondisweets: you really making it hard for me not to insult you with your nonsenscial posts! How is it leeching if the money will be used on the child! So the child is now leeching his/her father abi

you can start the insult if you wish - i am very versatile in that realm. it is leeching because majority of these women premeditate the sex act. it's not about the child, it's about the money from the child support they will be collecting from the men who are mostly very rich. it's a woman's get-out-of-poverty card.

please when your daughter gets pregnant and her bf wants her to put her life at risk simply because he doesn't want to buy diapers and baby milk, come back and say this rubbish you are saying now

that is if she tells me about it. in the country i reside, a teenager can get an abortion & the doctors cannot reveal the information to the parents unless the girl involved wish it so. it's called privacy. besides, birthing a child is 14 times riskier to cause death than abortion. you are the one arguing with an mgbeke-tinted lens here.

Unless you are telling me every man tells every woman that he sleeps with explicitly that she is only there for sexuaaal gratification and nothing else. Only then can he be excused from only consequences that result after those 2mins of pleasure!

what else is she there for? since they are unmarried yet then the sex is for recreation, not for procreation. any woman that doesn't know that is most likely a rêtard. if i want a baby by any woman, the first step for me is to marry her immediately. without marriage, sex is a recreational activity! if she doesn't agree, she should close her legs.