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datalossvictim1: No it is not the case of every unwanted pregnancy. There are women and men who make no mention of any precaution.

They just have careless sex. In contrast, there are men who make precaution but the woman fails to act thus being careless. Because a woman is foolish does not mean the man should suffer the child.

When dealing with human life there has to be that consideration that shows your human side. You cannot simply put a child in the bin because you did not want it. Surely in life there are situations that require us to sacrifice our wants.

pickabeau1: That was in the 50s or so bro
Let see how it goes...

I also want an all American final .. mind u

pickabeau1: Yet we potentially have 2 europeans in the semis

While i hope for a braxil v argentina final the odds of an european final is high


odds According to Infostrada
Brazil v Germany : 59% to 41% (very tight)

Holland vs Costa : 76% to 24%

Argentina vs Holland: : 59% to 41% (very tight)

Brazil vs Argentina: : 55% to 45%

As you can see the odds are also high on an all European final

Abbiewyse: I don't know how some guys use their brain. You shud knw the consequences of unprotected sex. Just stand up to ur responsibilities..Who knows what the child will become tomorrow.

pickabeau1: You miss the point... im saying that factor is not as powerful as it used to be
With water breaks, good stamina also by the european teams.. the gap is not as wide again

pro01: Oga, my methods would never fail me, so I can't even bring myself to hypothesize about such an utterly objectionable eventuality. Sorry o

Then again, in the context of Nigeria, I don't think any court can "force" any man to pay child support. Even where a court makes such a pronouncement, its implementation would almost always never happen. We'll only have to depend on the scruples, goodwill, and 'paternal instinct' of this your hypothetical man (not me o) to contribute to his (illegitimate) child's wellbeing.

Nonso23: .....words fail me.....
her predictions... our reality, unfortunately.

pickabeau1: @coogar that assertion only worked in the 50 - 70s when most players were still based in their continents
Noww the brazilians are even more european than most
Messi almost never played in Argentina thats why he called Estranger

In Brazil.. Neymar was coaxed to stay back as long as possible

Its almost all European teams playing

donnypool: Not everybody want to give away their child for adoption, because it doesnt guarantee good life for the child. using simple logic makes me understand that, women call the shot when it comes to child issues/parenting. so as a guy, use all birth control method including combining both withdrawal method plus wearing of protection method.

donnypool: well it is quit fair, if she cannot bear the pain for 9 months, well she cant. The law in todays society favors female more. If it was in the past generation, she wont be having sex like its an achievement

donnypool: well if i understood what you are saying, then i'll say if she doesn't want it and he wants it, then the problem is a bit complicated because she is the one who will carry the child for 9months. so if she doesn't want it, there can be a mutual agreement or she probably won't let him know about it. But in all, both are responsible for the child's care be it male or female.

pro01: My powerful 'chi' will always prevent me from meeting - let alone fcking - any woman with such sinister schemes. Na only nice girls looking to have a good time with a great guy I dey meet.

datalossvictim1: Ha!! When did children become chocolates that you might want or not want them You are dealing with a human life here. Extra caution needs to be taken by both male and female partners when it comes to sexual intercourse. Pregnancies occur for different reasons. If a pregnancy resulted from the carelessness of both parties then both parties would have to take full responsibility for that child. Abortion would be highly frowned upon in this circumstance. In another instance, if the pregnancy resulted from the woman's carelessness then It can be understandable if the man refuses to care for the child.

However this is not to excuse the notion being upheld by the op. Refusing to support your child simply because you didn't want it is totally selfish and not religious especially if we take Nigeria as a case study. I am very certain proponents and opponents of the ops assertion are Christians. I don't want to become biased or judgemental but you cannot go to your house of worship and scream and then come to the corner and ask for abortion. In fact the question of why were you having sex in the first place would be asked.

Let us move away from the religious perspective. It is morally wrong to exclaim abortion simply because you took precautionary steps. A society that functions under such principles might be damaging itself. As humans, we should be able to protect ourselves and to encourage human life. A human error should not be corrected by simply killing another potential human. Some have argued that life begins at conception. So this means that you are not just killing a foetus but an actual human being. Therefore the man advocating an abortion for his unborn child is simply a murderer.

It is also interesting to note that there is no contraception that offers 100% proof. The highest is 99 and that one percent matters a lot.

To finish my epistle, a man should be willing to help his child regardless of the circumstances that brought about the child. The only ridiculousness would be when the woman requests for an exorbitant amount of child support.

Ema prince: Coooger the mouthy one!!!...

damiso: Cooooogarrr we missed your trouble making welcome back

I agree with you I think a south american country will win it.But he thinks Germany (and maybe Holland with brother Oscar nominee arjen robben ) have shown some great spirit because at the end of the day he thinks the world cup is worn by that team that is able to dig in deep and go all the way.

Yesterday God forgive me I thought Neymar was exaggerating the pain.The boy(in short the whole brazilian team and their river niger tears) just like melodrama.Feel so sorry for him.Must be such a horrible feeling having to miss the last (or maybe 2) games of such a wonderful and iconic world cup.

pro01: I personally dispose my used condom by flushing it down the toilet immediately - by myself. No story o.

pro01: Yimu. All this one na story. I trust my withdrawal method, and it has never failed me in my long 'career'. I always withdraw at the point of no return - even with a condom firmly in place. No chance of any yeye pregnancy. No time for stories that touch.

You can't foist an unwanted pregnancy on me; that was not part of the bargain when we had consensual sex.

damiso: Who do you think owns this World Cup?

Hubby thinks Germany I think Brazil( he thinks Brazil is crap and they have lost neymar) but I just think they will fumble and wobble to to the final.But this Argentina team that is playing now is giving me second thoughts.

donnypool: yes he should, because the sperm is his and not mine.

donnypool: If the guy doesnt want a child, he shouldn't get a girl pregnant or probably shouldn't be having unprotected sex. If a guy is wanting a girl to take the risk of having an abortion, he too should be bold enough to detach his manhood from his body.

shoefreak: Wow! Okay this is a very tricky one. But in all honesty, if the guy said he didn't want a child then she shouldn't expect him to pay any child support. It shouldn't be made into his responsibility but he should not be a sourpuss and get all defensive. Hian! It doesn't have to be money, he can pay fees directly to school and all that.

taiwoti: My point is sex doesn't only benefit the man, both parties agreed and choose to enjoy every bit of the pleasure, the bible even say can two people walk unless they agree, when the issue of pregnancy kicks in its the fault of both parties because they choose to let it happen, because both parties can choose to use condom and can equally prevent it from happening, so when the lady gets pregnant eventually, I feel its her sole choice to be pregnant, and hence she should bear the brunt, because the guy has expressly made his intention know of nt keeping the baby, so he shouldn't be forced to pay for any child support, this issue is really far from RESPONSIBILITY in the part of the man. Its her sole choice, just that she didn't pick the right option to avoid the pregnancy.

naijababe: Freaking ace! High 5 jo!

@ Post, if we decide to have sex consensually, then we must agree how we are going deal with the fallout.

pickabeau1: Hehehhehehe
This is an interesting angle but is contradictory to the principles of choice which female activists hold dear

Is it possible for a feminist to be aversive to abortion.

pickabeau1: LOL....
some Ladies... Logic... the two words start with L.. but thats where the similarity ends.. alas

To advocate abortion in exceptional circumstances seems reasonable but that is not politically correct in this age

I get where u are coming from..
They cant choose what they want

You wanted free sex without conseqences yet want to lump the effects on the men however i believe society suffers overall

lots of illegitimate kids, overburdened single parents etc

we need a better way
Close your legs until you are in a committed relationship
That has been my stance

pickabeau1: Getting dodgy research to support abortion was the greatest mistake ever made
But thats not the point of this thread

Im suprised our feminist warriors are anti abortion...abortion was touted by them as the magic bullet. Why are dey against it now
Have sex with no consequences.. if it fails abort it.. that was their mantra...

pickabeau1: Ewuro
U r blaming the wrong person.. njoku is just statin d facts

It is your fellow female activists whpo campaigned for this issue

They say a foetus is not a human

face the pro choicers... make dem no chop u raw ooo

Guykhena: As of now that battle didn't exist,its a mere folk tale now.
So it will do you more good to accept his call out,....

Iceskidd: i ain't an oldie here, but i've read almost battle held here, so that may be true. But u've got to agree he's a vet though.

Iceskidd: rematches are for dj5naira, since the inception of brutal clash the dude has won only two matches. And they where rematch series, against airmark and evilchapterz

pickabeau1: When i said baby daddies.. i did not mean men in marriage.. Traditionally if a fathered a child, you were expected to marry the woman
With time n marraiges not being forced, governments did not want to be burdened with the cost of childcare and consequences of peoples sexxual liaisons, they just lumped it on the baby daddy

that led to where we are now

pickabeau1: As i said earlier...im interested in the societal good
You have great points and it was formed from the injustice meted upon men by women who got the laws too from abandonment by baby daddies

See chain reaction upon reaction
we need to look at a better way.. a middle way that benefits everyone

WOMEN CLOSE YOUR LEGS AND OPEN IT IN A RELATIONSHIP GOING SOMEWHERE
THE CONSEUQENCES OF SEXXUAL INDISCRETIONS ARE NOT EQUAL FOR MEN N WOMEN

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Weak nigga . . you lacking limbs thats strong/
99% of ya fans are having wigs and thongs/
. . Cos ya lines are like a hawk . . they only carry chicks along!/

What I'm texting is hard/ my raps are deeper than the well in his yard/
. . I taught this nigga to be fly . . cos I put him in the wings . . like hes Eden Hazard!/
You ll get buried in sand/ everything you sending is bland/
. . if this nigga is seen where ddopeheads are seated . . we ll tell him to stand!/

My names rings a bell cos I'm no. 1 vet in the land/
. . but if his rings . . then it means hes having a bell in his hand/

His rap style is devilish and damned/ they ll never get crested as grand/
. . My style's rated over C's . . like they got ferried to Jand!/

I gain entrance into his room and sleep with his wife/
Still making noise 'bout beating me . . like its hes greatest achievement in life/

I'm breaking his soul/ while I'm playing ma role/
. . put a card inside his bride's ppussy . . to prove I got an 'ace in the hole'!/

Hes now pulling his muscle/ cos he made me lose in a tussle?/
let him accept our rematch!
. . if this nigga escapes my 'APPLE of discord' . . my IPAD ll put him in trouble!/

pickabeau1: ok....u talk as if abortion is just akin to a bandaid on a cut. No problem though... i dont blame u ..na all this pro choice army that have likened it as such

Im looking at it from the angle at what is best for society. im surprised its the so called feminists arguing against abortion however