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Family › Re: The Family Section Fun Room!! by coogar: 1:57pm On Dec 31, 2013
see ajepakx everywhere, where are my eton college alumni at? who is jf odunjo? is she a stripper? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 1:53pm On Dec 31, 2013
n0m0705: This is too bad for a suppossed top player, why is everyone making noise about suarez? However, I will like to give him till the end of the season before passing my verdict.
Coogar baba! Why are you trying hard to make us believe that berbatov is as good as rooney? We all know you are not a fan of Rooney , comparing berba to rooney? Pleeaaase!
when berba was trusted to lead the attack, he delivered the league title & a golden boot just like ruud did in 02/03 or van persie in 12/13.

the two times rooney was trusted to lead our attack, he failed to land us a title in 09/10 & 11/12 and he could only come second on the scorer's charts.
Family › Re: How To Control Incest In The Family? by coogar: 1:45pm On Dec 31, 2013
byvan: Parents should desist from such careless touch and no she isn't looking for anything,she is making her child giggle and am not comfortable with her choice of body part.Her intention is not to abuse but to amuse the child. Looking after a child and performing medical exam on a child are two different act.
your perception of her action is what is dirty, the woman is just looking after her son. byvan, you have a dirty mind.
Family › Re: Open Challenge! Show Me One Recent Notable Feminist Who Had A Great Marriage by coogar: 1:40pm On Dec 31, 2013
jadoremoid: Joke Sylvia I believe qualifies, this is a woman who refused to change her surname when she married Olu Jacobs till today and she even stated in an article how she doesn't do the cooking or cleaning yet they've been married for decades. Ultimately it depends on the man and woman in question. The success of every marriage depends on getting a spouse who understands you and can deal with what others may perceive as your flaws. I remember how many people were making noise about how can she say she does cook or wash her husbands clothes and how can she not change her surname yet time and time again Olu Jacobs has said he wasn't look for cleaning or cooking in a wife and he had no problem with her keeping her name. We all want different things, so just find someone who fits you and stay out of other's relationship or marriages.
don't distort the facts......
she's mrs joke jacobs at home & joke silva as her stage name. olu jacobs stated clearly he met joke silva as an actress & he wasn't interested in changing her stage name & denying her fans just because she was getting married to him. abeg, find another example. this is a public forum, don't misinform the public.
Family › Re: How To Control Incest In The Family? by coogar: 1:30pm On Dec 31, 2013
byvan: @ Coogar, the lady is a family friend and completely incapable of performing any medical exam.
how is she incapable of looking after her own son? maybe she's looking for lice eggs, boils, insect bites, etc. was she föndling him to get herself wet? would she do such in your presence if she was sëxually abusing him?

there has to be a limit as to how we interpret these things. yes, some parents are sick but not all of them are perverts. the other day a father got dog abuses in the social media for being in a bathtub with his daughter. that's just rank idiocy. would a woman in a bathtub with her son receive the same level of criticism?
Family › Re: Advice Needed! by coogar: 1:26pm On Dec 31, 2013
ellamines: The girl is 28 the guy is 10 years older. That means he is 38 but the girl earns more...
what's the problem there? the boy is happy, the girl is happy. if they are in love, why not? so because the guy doesn't earn as much as the girl, they shouldn't marry?
Family › Re: How To Control Incest In The Family? by coogar: 1:14pm On Dec 31, 2013
byvan: Some kids have been molested out of ignorance,i once saw a mum playing with her little boy's JT. She insisted that there is nothing wrong with a mum doing that,i rested my case.
how do you know she was playing with it for pleasure? she could be doing medical examination - looking for growths, mumps, insect bites, etc. not all body contacts are perverse.
Family › Re: Why Are Children, Aged 0-6yrs (gurls) Sexually Harassed? by coogar: 12:58pm On Dec 31, 2013
Nancia Kay: A gurl of 4yrs, that i know was penetrated by her elder cousin, in the family house, where she lived with her gran ma.
The surprising thing, was that she was dis-virgined without blood stains(according to her) and non of her family members, suspected any thing.
She told the story, to her parent wen she was 12yrs old.
So am asking, when will all this cases, STOP?!
little boys get harassed too by older females. however, biology will not show any signs on the boys as males don't have hymens or any tissue that can get damaged like females. your topic is one-sided. remove the (girls) in your title & let's discuss why children generally get sëxually abused by older males/females.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:39pm On Dec 31, 2013
elampiro: This is for 2011/12.
and rooney copped 2,810 mins with 27 goals & 7 league assists that season. rooney's 7 assists simply tell us the story that he was a top striker in 2011/12. we all know what rooney is capable of when he is a 10.....and it's not 7 miserable assists in 2,800 minutes.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:03pm On Dec 31, 2013
elampiro: 1. Whether 82% or whatever, Rooney was among the top 10 creators in the opta chart. Berba and co were not even on the list. So how did you win the argument? He Hagreaves argument was about his role in our UCL success in 2007/2008. All other things were accessories. Everything revolved around having a 'hatchet man' in the team. I pointed to you Hagreaves role throughout the campaign.
how can berba be a top creator when he had only 5 league starts in 11/12 season? are you this rëtarded? hargreaves was not a hatchet man in those 2 champions league games. he was a full back against barcelona & he was on the right hand side of the midfield against chelsea to stop ashley cole. carrick was the DM against chelsea in the moscow final.

2. In 2010/11 argument. Hahahaha how funny you want to shift goal post again.
Infact in all remaining argument you are now only struggling. No need sef.
what's the meaning of this gibberish?

[quote author=tess_1]You need to go and get your facts right. Rooney scored 27 goals in that season in EPL. In those matches he scored those goals, Berba didn't start those matches with Rooney. Chicha only started 3 matches with him in those games Rooney scored those goals. How can you now be saying he played the No 10 role. I know you are so obsessed about Rooney but don't cook up what is not right in order to win an argument.[/quote]hahahahaha
see a newbie giving elampiro flying kicks already. berba/chicha had limited roles that season. 11/12 that rooney had only 5 assists in 30+ league games & he was a 10? grin cheesy grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:42am On Dec 31, 2013
elampiro: 1. There was no such argument as open pay and se play percentage. The argument was about Rooney's goals, assists and chances created vs RVP, Berba, Welbeck and Chicha. And I won it hands down. That chart about percentage was that showing that Rooney was among the top creators. The error on percentage had nothing to do with the facts of the argument.
this boy can lie.....
you told us rooney created 82 key passes whereas it was 82% of his key passes. you cannot read statistics & you lost that argument. i remember people begging me then not to beat you any further.

The other argument was on what role Owen had to play. Owen was to help in defensive duties from his right midfield role in the UCL final. He didn't play as an out and out winger as Ronaldo did on the left. When Owen went back, Rooney dropped to the right of the midfield as Owen help our the centre midfield and right back. Then Owen went to the central midfield completely in the extra time. I saw this match again 2 days ago.
you lost this argument too...i just remembered now. this was when you told us hargo clipped messi's left foot when it was clear as daylight that the duel was evra versus messi. we asked you to show videos or commentary where hargo tackled messi in that game, you resorted to speaking eshan language & you never produced any evidence.


Recently you said Berba and Chicha played the major role to 2010/11 season. You claimed Rooney was scarcely involved because he went to America. I proved with facts to you that Rooney was even more involved despite returning late from injury. I proved to you that we went to the top of the league when Rooney returned and had a run of games. I proved so much. You can go a few pages back.
yes, rooney was scarcely involved in the first half of that season. rooney scored his first goal from open play in jan 2011. the goals of chicha & berba took us to the top. you came back with an idiotic claim that rooney's presence took us to the top. i fail to see how the presence of a player who neither created goals nor score goals can take us to the top.

2. Rooney black in 14 matches in about 32 start? Great record!!!
18 blanks out of 32 if we remove penalty kicks. berba did not take any penalty in 10/11 to win a golden boot. why should we count rooney's penalty?


3. Rooney regularly miss from open net? Rooney is the most likely player to score from a tap in position. This season, RVP with fewer matches has missed two tap ins, one from almost the goal line. Even the great two alien miss tap in.
rooney has the worst conversion rate of all the strikers in the EPL. he missed an open net against cardiff. open net against leverkusen, open net against everton after kagawa's cross and plenty of other chances.

4. In 2009/10 Rooney 26 league goals. 6 penalties. He won some of them.
2011/2012 Rooney 27 league goals. 5 penalties. That's 22 clean league goals. I expect someone to look for a freekick to deduct. Only legends score free kicks frequently.
berbatov is an expert freekick taker. he was scoring freekicks for spurs ever before rooney perfected his art in it. if he's not allowed to take them, how is he expected to score as many as those who do?

5. 23% 0 league goal against top 4 teams. How many % of playing time against top 4 team did it ake Owen to score a goal? You are dodging and struggling.
he's the only united player to have scored a hatrick against liverpool. as far as difficult games are concerned, a united match against liverpool is more difficult to win than against arsenal who perennially finish in the top four.

rooney has had 10 seasons against liverpool, where's his hatrick? grin cheesy

[quote author=tess_1]That is not correct. Rooney played as the top 9 in 2011/12 and not as number 10.[/quote]rooney was a 9 in 09/10 & 11/12.
every man & his dog know that but elampiro would argue otherwise. in 11/12 season, berbatov had 5 starts or so.
Family › Re: The Best Role Models For Your Kids In The New Year(pix) by coogar: 10:59am On Dec 31, 2013
Foster cat: How will you react when you come in and find your kids in this form?
wash them up, call handymen to do the cleaning. kids would be kids....parents should keep such containers away from their kids. beating them won't undo their actions. i naturally love naughty kids though so this is no biggie.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:41am On Dec 31, 2013
elampiro: 1. Coogar, I have never lost an argument with you. Never!
hahahaha - there are numerous arguments you have lost. the one that included you seeing roy keane in the champions league final of 99 & your inability to read rooney's statistics of open play/set play percentages.


2. Rooney is a natural number 10. That's what the world knows him for. Rooney fired blank in only 14 matches out of may be 32. Massive record.
rooney is a natural 9.....he's effective as a 9 just like he is as a 10. blank in 14 matches....blank in 18 matches if you discount penalties he scored that season.

3. Even In 2009/10 Rooney won penalties. So stop talking about penalties. They have to be won and scored.
who cares about who won the penalties? rooney who regularly misses an empty net wouldn't have scored from those penalties. he's missed loads of penalties with only a keeper to beat so how are you so sure he would have scored if he wasn't fouled?

4. How many league matches has Rooney played as arrow head this season? I know he has played as arrow head vs Leverkusen, and may be one or two league games. In 2009/10, did he play as the arrow head in all the matches?
in 09/10, rooney was the arrowhead in all the games. berbatov was the 10 creating goals & feeding valencia with through balls to cross the ball into rooney's path.

5. Did you just say Rooney scored 6 league penalties in 2009/10. I need to check that out now.
you must be blind!
you referenced rooney's 26 goals in 11/12, i said rooney scored 6 league penalties in 11/12. how you concluded i meant 09/10 must be alluded to your lack of vitamins A. you need yeast in your food.


6. Berba got this plenty of time? But how much time did Owen get to have scored?
128/540 is plenty of time? 23% match involvement against top teams is plenty of time? elampiro, are you sure you went to school? so 23% = plenty in your dictionary?
Family › Re: Open Challenge! Show Me One Recent Notable Feminist Who Had A Great Marriage by coogar: 10:16am On Dec 31, 2013
Dantedasz: Ileobatojo,
I thought you said I am the same person as the OP, a while ago? Suddenly I am one of his backers.LOL!
The gibberish you posted made no sense to me that is why I am requesting you put it in English.
The OPs request is simple enough but alas eight pages of cyberspace latter non of you paper weight fake feminists have been able to answer him properly.
Posters like sisi kill and bukatyne have even made an intellectual effort even if flawed to explain their points logically.
On the other hand you Ileobatojo have spent this thread as usual throwing insults like a coward and showing how much an intellectual Liliputian you are.
I suggest you read up on the subject of feminism properly and stop misrepresenting the movement.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar:
elampiro: Me lost this argument? Ukwu!!!
you have never won an argument in this section. false information & fact distortion is your modus operandi.

Have I ever lost any argument with you?
Anyway, only one last direct response to you. Rooney won some penalties in 2009/10. If he wasn't fouled he should have scored. So he should still be above 20 goals. Mind you, Rooney is not a natural 9. And the man knows how to spread his goals. Rooney did not just stop at those goals, he scored a good number in the UCL and others.
rooney is a natural 9, played as a natural 9 throughout that season. he was the arrowhead throughout the season & he fired blanks in 14 league games. if he wasn't the penalty taker, he would have fired blanks in 18 league games.

Then in 2011/12 Rooney scored 26 (not confirmed actual figure) league goals from the number 10 position. Remove his penalties, you will end up with about 22-23 league goals. Then he scored some in Europe, etc.
even this season, rooney played as an arrow head in many of the games. rooney scored about 6 penalties in the league that season. 26-6 is 20 goals. if we subtract direct freekicks(2 against arsenal, 1 against west ham) then the number is even lower than 17.

so what's the biggie?

elampiro: So 128mins out of 540 is not some playing time? Ukwu!!!
So how much playing time did Owen get to score a winning goals against Man City? I guess 540 mins. Lol
Ayagayagayagayo hei, ayagayagayagayo
it's not some playing time....
berba was on the bench against arsenal at old trafford & he got only 16 mins at the emirates.

berba got only 22 mins against chelsea at stamford bridge & was on the bench against them at old trafford.

berba got 76 mins against city at the etihad and only 23 mins at old trafford. he doesn't take penalties or freekicks, how's he expected to score from 1 start in 6 big games?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:43am On Dec 31, 2013
elampiro: Berbatov got some playing time against the top 4 on 2010/11 what did he do? When Man United went to Europa what did he do? But Suarez has great goals in Europa.
liar liar, pants on fire....
berba started only one game out of 6 games against top four clubs that season. in raw stats, he played only 128 mins out of 540 available.


Suarez is a big match player. Berba is just a small match shinner.
0 goals against man city
0 goals against arsenal
0 goals against chelsea

hell, 0 goals against a very weak man utd team in the carling cup. big match player indeed & yet 16 of his 19 goals are against teams in the bottom 7. grin cheesy cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:37am On Dec 31, 2013
RuuDie: Is that the basis for determing if a striker will score against top teams!? You choose to assume he wouldn't score if fielded, we choose to assume he would score if fielded - 50/50, goalless draw. Now contrast that to a certain Luis Suarez who gets fielded all the time, whether against top or small team, but only chooses to come to the party when a Rudy, Hennessey or Hilario is in the opposition goal!
excellent post.......
16 goals against bottom 7 teams
only 3 goals against top 13 teams

if we go by afrodoc's criteria in choosing the top teams, suarez has 0% as he has not scored yet against arsenal, man city and chelsea. yet, these drunkards don't want to admit suarez is a FTB. these negroes are too inconsistent!!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:32am On Dec 31, 2013
elampiro: Berbatov 2starts FA cup matches in 2010/2011, 0 goals.

Who will entrust him with crucial matches?
Berba FA cup record for Man United.
Start 5, sub 2. Goals 1.

Carling cup
Start 5, sub 0. Goals 1.

Berbatov (a lead striker) local cup matches overall. Started 10, substituted 2. ........ Goals 2.

Is with with 2 goals we can win local cups?
you know elampiro has lost an argument when he brings up UCL stats to defend berbatov's golden boot in 10/11. the league is our main concern, not cup competitions.

elampiro: ^^^
He was 29 years old when he couldn't score a single goal.
at 29 yrs old, berbatov won a golden boot!

How old is RVP, Rooney firing heavily in the UCL? Rooney transfer price at 18 we know. Berba at 18..... Ekwe sample.
rooney/RVP has never fired in the UCL. none of them has won a golden boot in the champions league. rooney is an english player - his transfer fee gets cooked up naturally

What will be Rooney's and RVP transfer price at the end of this year? £4m?
it depends on how much years they have left on their current contract. if rooney runs down his contract, he would leave for £0, same as RVP. as old as you are, you don't even know how transfer fee works.

I have delivered a super volcano and a 9 point earthqauke.
the only earthquake here is rooney(minus penalties) was blank in 18 league games in 2009/10 when he was the lead striker at man utd. that's a crying shame!!!!!
Family › Re: Open Challenge! Show Me One Recent Notable Feminist Who Had A Great Marriage by coogar: 1:39am On Dec 31, 2013
ypepe: Topic.
Biolabee- sitting on d fence.
Coogar-claiming male chauvanist.
Sagamite- woman hater
Dinachi-running away from his past
Dante.....- looking for opportunity to dice
Women
TV- traditionalist to d core

All of u guys hv one thing in common.
U were dissapointed by women in ur lives either as a child or an adult.
U all need psychological evaluation.
Word r powerful. It bares our heart without our permission.
Stop fighting women. Go and fight d demons tormenting u guys. (Oya, d bullets should start coming. By d time I log in again, I expect this to reach page 20. Happy bulleting kiss)
buhahahaha.....
disappointed in the women in our lives indeed. how can? you have to understand there are plenty of women who don't share in these feminist ideals.

yes, they want women to be educated, take good jobs, work as many hours as they please, etc. however, when it comes to feminists fighting for the interest of women at the expense of the men then this group of sane women scream blue murder.

so contrary to what you think, the women in my lives understand their roles while i understand mine with a mutual respect for each other. i am too blessed to shack up with a lethargic devilish feminazi. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar:
elampiro: 1. Is Rangers an EPL team? Stop these lies.
your middle name should be tomfool....
fulham, west ham(home), west ham(away), arsenal & blackburn. isn't that 5 different games or you have lost your ability to reason?

2. You are yet to answer how scoring in 11 EPL games should have amounted to 20 EPL games. Ayagayagayagayo. Probably one of those 3 penalties was in one of the 11 matches he already scored. I haven't those data link on my phone. Tomorrow you go hear am.
berbatov didn't score against fulham, arsenal, blackburn, etc

3. Torres, Drogba, Lampard, Cole, Yorke, Heskey, etc have all spent so much time in EPL. Let's see their average per season even if its 8 seasons. Rooney is king to have outlived many forwards in a massive club as Man United.
torres 6 seasons, drogba 8 seasons, cole & yorke weren't in a top team for 10 years. lampard is a midfielder, he's not a striker. as you can see, you are struggling to name a striker that has spent 10 years in a team that has never finished below the 3rd position in the premier league. the answer is - none!!!!

4. Rooney has won Premier League player of the year. He has won many titles. Nisterooy has no UCL. He was shipped out for being an Hyena. Golden book is rubbish.
ruud won 3 golden boots in the UCL. the only champions league rooney won, he was anonymous. anderson, nani & carrick had more meaningful contribution to that victory than rooney.

5. Berba scored only in 11 matches, get it. Berba had a high playing time on the minutes. For get those shameful excuse you are trying to use to cover your lies from the pit of hell.
he started only 24 games, rooney started 28. that's the key. no player gets substituted in the first half debarring injuries so starting gives any player at least 45 mins to craft a goal.

6. Berba was blank in 13 out of 24 starts. Shameful. Big man stating only 24 times out of 38. Rooney went to America and return to have more time.
in 09/10, rooney was blank in 14 league games, scored awoof penalties in 4 of those games. it simply means rooney was blank in a whooping 18 games in 09/10(if we discount his penalties) what a shame!!!!

Berbaove, a £4m striker. 5 UCL goals in 4 years. Only prolific against bottom 6 teams. He had many games against upper teams but was clueless.
at 32 years of age, he's not going to command a high transfer fee. funny how a striker in his 30s can win a golden boot & rooney in his 10 seasons at united couldn't....rooney's genes are too fat to win the most coveted individual trophy for a striker.

as per his £4m price tag, berbatov is still the most expensive player in the history of man utd. berba's value at 27 was higher than rooney(the hottest teenage player in europe as at 2004). it seems fergie placed a higher value on an ageing berbatov than rooney.

you have taken another L, elampiro! rest in peace.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar:
elampiro: 1. Rooney 5 penalties? List them.
blackburn, west ham(twice) rangers & he missed against arsenal.

2. Man United scored only 3 penalties against West Ham and Blackburn, how does this help Berba to goals in 20 matches?
berbatov scored 21 league goals that season. with his perfect hit rate from the pen spot, he would have scored all the kicks we had that season. he's not missed yet for fulham & he has had about a dozen for them in all competitions.

3. 14 league goal per season? Which EPL player has been so consistent since history of EPL. Perhaps only Henry, a top 9. EPL is not Ligue 1 or a moimoi league. Ronaldo and Messi are playing against Shyte opponents 90% of the time in Laliga.
no striker has spent 10 years in a top club like rooney has done. ruud, cole/yorke, drogba, torres, etc are nowhere near 10 years so the statistics is meaningless.

4. In the UCL where legends are known, Rooney is top there.
.........but with no golden boot to show for it. ruud won 3 of those boots for united, same as cristiano. rooney is top but nothing to show for it. rooney epitomises abject failure!


elampiro: You are a big liar. Stop telling lies and cooking up figures to try and win argument.
So Rangers is one of those teams that should have helped Berba to score in 20 EPL matches?
you are a baboon!
i said had berba been our penalty taker with the same number of league appearances as rooney, he would have scored in more games. he started in 24 league games & was able to score in 11 of those games. if he had scored 5 penalties(fulham, blackburn, west ham, west ham, arsenal) that would be 16. if he had appeared in as many games as rooney(28 starts) that should have taken him to 18-20 games like i claimed.

You have to prove to us how Berba would have scored against 20 EPL matches from 11.
You are even lucky I am on my phone, I would have punctured many things you exaggerated. I burst your balloon.
you are a fool....
i am typing from a phone & it has not stopped me from replying all your stüpid claims & lies. see how you froze when it was pointed to you rooney failed to find the net in 14 league games in 09/10. grin cheesy

berba scored against 11 teams from only 24 starts. if he had taken 5 penalties, that would be him scoring in 16 different games. if he then had as many starts as rooney(28 starts), he would have at least scored 2-4 goals in those 4 extra starts which takes him to scoring against 18-20 teams
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:17am On Dec 31, 2013
elampiro: How many penalty did United have in 2010/11. Against which teams? How many were scored? Berba missed against Everton and sent us out of Carling cup.
rooney had 5 pens in total....one in the UCL against rangers(rooney's first goal that season). one against blackburn, 2 against west ham at upton park & 1 at old trafford & rooney missed a pen against arsenal at old trafford after JS park gave us the lead.

berba's miss didn't cost us against everton - only soccer illiterate united fans run with this lie. tim cahill took the first pen for everton & missed, berba took his own & missed too. as at the time berba missed, the score was 0-0.

no one remembers rio's miss cost us that tie. if everton could recover from cahill's miss, why didn't united recover from berba's miss. you people should shut up about that miss already & stop looking for a scapegoat in a game we failed to win over 120 mins.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:09am On Dec 31, 2013
elampiro: 1. What is the ratio of maches Rooney scored in 2009/10 in the total matches he started? Then what is Berba's ratio? Or even percentage?
it seems statistics confuse you - rooney had 5 penalties that season in 4 different games. that has already condemned rooney to the pits.

2. How do you mean Rooney has 20 EPL penalties?
i said he has about 20......he scored one against spurs this season. he has about 17 before this season. let's even assume he's got only 10, that's 14 league goals per season - hardly a world class material.

3. Even if Rooney has 150 league goals over many seasons. He is a number 10. We have Drogbna, Torres, etc who are top 9. How many goals have they scored over several seasons?
ronaldo & messi are not top 9......i don't see barca/madrid fans trumping out excuses for them. rooney earns the same wages as these guys & yet his contribution is zero in comparison to them.

4. Rooney currently has the best UCL stat in knockout stages among all EPL players. I guess one of the best three in Europe. Only great men have this.
this is an irrelevant statistic - a team has to play in those KO stages before they can even be reckoned with. rooney's united has played mostly in those games than his peers & he's been doing it for 10 years - logic dictates he should have more....
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:51pm On Dec 30, 2013
dademola: always wanting to bring rooney into d mix by all means!! grin grin. This isnt about rooney bro!! U say toress started 34 league games in 07/08, hw many games did toress play in total in that seaon??
why won't i bring rooney in the mix? rooney was an arrowhead in 09/10. he failed to find the net in 14 league games & yet he was the chief penalty taker. he got 5 awoof goals via penalty that season. in 11/12, rooney bagged a hatrick of setpieces against arsenal in the 8-2 win. those are the extra advantages he gets to rack up his stats.

they said rooney has scored 150 league goals for man utd but this is his 10th season. it means rooney scores about 15 league goals per season on average. if we remove around 20 league penalties from that haul, rooney's average is about 13....so why is he world class & a golden boot winner isn't?

elampiro: Coogar this is a big lie.
berba has a near-perfect penalty hit-rate. how many penalties did united take in 10/11. take one out of it & add to his goal-haul that season & you will get his projected total haul of goals if he was a setpiece taker.

as at april 2013, this was the penalty stats....berba had scored 6 in 6 for fulham as at then.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/19/article-2311613-1962B63A000005DC-870_634x490.jpg
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar:
dademola: ha!! So berba was on a goals drought for a whopping 12 matches?? Odikwa serious matter oo!!
in 09/10, rooney didn't score in 14 league games. in 11/12, rooney didn't score in 17 league games in spite of scoring 5 penalties in 09/10 & 8 penalties in 11/12. how many times do you think strikers score in a 38-league season?

U keep talking about penalty kicks- with berba taking arguably d laziest pk in d history of man utd( pls, show us d gif, and let d whole world see d supposed "paneka" u claim it to be), how on earth could he hav been our chief pk taker?? Dunno why u decided to bring up this pk ish again when we thrashed it out d last time!
https://lh4.ggpht.com/-2RH4qwE8m0U/UqR7xkbN3TI/AAAAAAAAA8Y/hbHpKYVyjng/s0/pen.gif

it seems you dunno that's the only penalty berbatov has missed since 2008. he later scored 2/2 for united in 11/12 season and he has scored 12/12 since he joined fulham. berbatov is the deadliest penalty taker in england. no comparison should be made.

https://mufclatest.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Rooney-missed-pen-v-West-Ham-1-0.gif

If i may ask;
When el nino was pumping in goals with ease at liverpool, hw many penalties or free kicks did he take, not to talk of scoring from them??
07/08 was torres most productive season for liverpool. he started 34 league games. berbatov started only 24 league games in 10/11. it means torres only scored 3 more goals in the extra 10 league games he had over berbatov.

you are not good with numbers.....

Cooger, u sef reason am na; berba scoring 8 of his 21 goals in meaningless 5-0 and 7-1 wins at oldtrafford is tantamount to ronaldo scoring 19 of his 50 goals in maybe 9-0 and 14-0 wins against elche and sporting gijon at the bernabau!!!! Cooger... Dimitar berbatov was a fat track bully!!
the day he hit 5 against blackburn was the day we consolidated our position at the top of the table. during that period, a fat scouser was busy shïtting up the whole joint looking for a way to squeeze our finances.

the analogy with ronaldo is flawed. no player can score 19 goals against 2 teams. football does not necessarily follow a linear or proportionate pattern. fact remains whatever made berbatov a flat track bully in 10/11 is the same yard stick that should make suarez a flat track bully.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:34pm On Dec 30, 2013
dademola: since i've agreed that berba hardly played against the big teams, let's ignore that aspect! I also acknowledge d fact that a free-scoring striker would alws score more goals against d lowly teams, buh when 38% of the goals are concentrated in meaningless 7-1 and 5-0 victories at home, wahala dey oo!! The season in question sef, berba didnt score in a considerable number of games he played in- can u help us wif d exact number??
berbatov started only 24 league games that season & he scored in 11 of them. this is a player who didn't score a single penalty kick or a freekick that season. these are the areas aguero, rooney, RVP, suarez get to add extra to their goal stats.

if berba was our chief penalty taker in 10/11, you can bet he would have scored in about 18-20 games that season. rooney or RVP or aguero/soldado can have a terrible game & get the opportunity to score from a penalty, berbatov didn't have such luxury.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:13pm On Dec 30, 2013
dademola: i'm not disputing d fact that berba was mostly on d bench against the big teams, buh imagine d ronaldo u brought into equation scoring 50 league goals, and 38% of d goals where scored at the bernabau against valladolid and recreativo- it wld mean ronaldo scored a whopping 19 goals against d 2 teams combined in those 2 matches!!. grin grin grin
that's logic.....
if a player scores against all the teams in the premier league. his percentage against the big clubs would be 3/19. in berba's case, he wasn't even given the chance to show his skills against the so called big clubs, can a player score while sitting on the bench?

in 10/11, berbatov started only 1 match out of the 6 league matches available to him against big clubs....then he started 5 matches out of 6 league matches against the bottom clubs. even a kid of 5 knows berba would score a bigger percentage of his goals against
the smaller teams than the bigger ones.

the ronaldo example is flawed - he plays against big & small teams, same as suarez, rooney, aguero, etc. this is why i plucked out the suarez example. he's only missed the league game against united & he's fired blanks against arsenal, chelsea & man city.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:53pm On Dec 30, 2013
dademola: cooger, suarez has struggled on d big games this season- agreed buh remember berba scored 5 goals against blackburn and 3 goals against birmingham in d season he was HGS(he scored 21 goals in total, isnt it?)! From simple arithmetic, it means berba scored 38% of his goals in just 2 matches against relegation candidates at oldtrafford that season!! Haba!!
but he only played 128 mins out of the 540 league minutes available against the big teams which is less than 25%. i ask again, how's he supposed to score against them when he's mostly on the bench? why didn't rooney score in our league game against liverpool?


afrodoc: I do not live on Nairaland and neither do i live to win arguments on Nairaland. And once arguments get toooo extended i just log off and go on with my life offline.
So the fact that i did not respond to you should not give you the delusion that i ran away..... i was just busy doing something else that benefited me.
the irony....
you live on NL. matter of fact, most of your posts concerning this particular argument in october were in the early hours of the morning. after you got plummeted with facts, you backed out.

Berbatov is a flat track bully. His record with Spurs where he played more minutes support this fact. In Europe most of his goals are against Eastern European teams that still use monkey post and use charcoal to write on their score board grin
lies, lies & more lies.
berbatov scored 23 goals in every season at spurs. he won a PFA spot in his debut season at spurs & he had scored against united, chelsea, liverpool & arsenal before arriving at old trafford.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 7:43pm On Dec 30, 2013
afrodoc: Suarez scored 6 goals against the top 6 teams last season. He scored 4 goals(17 % of all his goals) against the top 4 teams in the league that season
He scored against all the teams above Liverpool except United.

When you consider that Berbatov scored ONLY 6 goals ( IN SEVEN SEASONS) against a team good enough to finish in the top 4 and Suarez has scored a top 4 team the same 6 goals in 3 seasons then you can decide for yourself who is flat track wink
where was your reply when i destroyed your argument with this post in october? you ran away timidly with your tail stuck between your legs.....


afrodoc: yet you the master of stats has not been able to show stats to back up your claim.
u mentioned ronaldo and messi and RVP
i showed you 29 of ronaldo's 34 league goals were scored against shyte teams. that should be an indictment against him as a flat track bully.

WELL show us with facts and figures which of them has capitalized on bottom feeder relegated teams to score 30 percent of his league goals like Berbatov?
if we break it down to facts & figures, you would lose. like i told you earlier, berbatov did not play a large chunk of the so-called big games. the accusation of him being a flat track bully is utterly misplaced....

by your logic, (chelsea + city + arsenal) were the top teams in 2010/11. berbatov started only 1 game out of the 6 league games available to him against these top teams. in raw stats, berbatov played only 128 league minutes in 540 mins against top teams in the season he was the top scorer in england.

against the bottom sides(blackpool + birmingham + west ham), berbatov started 5 out of the 6 league games available - in raw stats, dimitar copped 450 mins out of the 540 league minutes available. he scored 8 league goals against these teams but that was because he was in the starting line up 5 times against them.

my deductive reasoning tells me, for a striker to score goals in any game(tough or easy fixture), he must be played first & foremost. this is why people like you should stay away from interpreting statistics. it requires an astronomical level of intelligence quotient.

similarly, in 11/12....(city + arsenal + spurs) were the top teams in the premier league according to your logic. berbatov did not even kick a ball against any of these teams. that's 0 minutes in the 540 league minutes available. surely, only a disillusioned & a deluded fan like yourself would expect him to score like his counterparts while his bütt was planted on the bench by SAF.

The fact remains that compared to top strikers for big teams he scores a disproportionately high percentage of his goals against the yeye defences of relegation bound teams.
Thats why he is a flat track bully cheesy
the fact remains - berbatov plays an atrocious low number of minutes against top teams than his peers in the premier league. only a complete tool would then expect berbatov to match the scoring records of rooney, RVP, suarez, etc when statistics showed he copped only 128 minutes in 1080 league minutes(12% match-minute appearance) available to him against top sides in 10/11 & 11/12.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 7:22pm On Dec 30, 2013
afrodoc: meanwhile last season Suarez scored against Man City, Everton, Chlesea(twice) , Arsenal, Spurs.......not sure u can call him flat track
and berba has never scored against man utd, liverpool, chelsea, arsenal, spurs?? grin cheesy the facts are out now & afrodoc is shaking like a lily-leaf. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 7:15pm On Dec 30, 2013
RuuDie: If Berba was a FTB... so also is Suarez for now. Simple!
may God bless you abundantly. grin nothing makes me respect people more than when they are consistent in their principles.

afrodoc: grin
You are a recidivist, i won't indulge you
this is a cop-out, surely!
16 league goals against the bottom 7 teams. even when suarez played against a very weakened united side in the carling cup, he failed to score. is suarez a flat track bully or not?
Family › Re: Open Challenge! Show Me One Recent Notable Feminist Who Had A Great Marriage by coogar: 7:10pm On Dec 30, 2013
[quote author=Sisi_Kill]How does one compose the next great song if they know nothing about the basics of DO RE MI?

Can one write a novel without learning ABC?

No and No.

So how then can we discuss feminism when many have no effing clue what it is all about?

It's no big secret that there has been a very calculated effort to ascribe the bastardize definition to Feminism (I.e women hating men and wanting to have their balls as squeeze toys) in order to rubbish it.

No woman who has brothers, uncles, sons, father etc will hate ALL men. Some may hate a certain type of man, which is only natural after all people can't like everything under the sun. To now say because they do, they are man haters is quite frankly an extremely idiotic conclusion. I don't like oranges, does that make me anti fruit?

Any woman who thinks women should be treated like a human being with a fully functioning brain is a feminist and that friends is the simplest definition of Feminism. All these women want is to be given the chance to make their choices and stop being treated like an inferior being.

Anyone (man AND woman)'who has a problem with this......has serious issues and it is of their own making not Feminism's, so stop blaming the movement and go seek the psychological help you desperately need. (I'd start with the How to Build my self esteem, believe in my own worth and stop feeling threatened self help books if I were one of y' all)[/quote]you are correct in a way but there are other issues you didn't address. feminism is in 2 parts. you have addressed the first part but there's a second part that clearly states feminism as an organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interests.

the second definition is the real issue - the interests of women would not necessarily coincide with that of the men & this is why there's a big ambiguity in feminism. fighting for the rights of one side does not necessarily entail fighting for things that bring equality to both sides.

feminism fights only for the interest of women - it then means if a man singlehandedly gets a mortgage, he marries a woman & she commits adultery that leads to their separation & divorce, feminism dictates the house owner(the man) should vacate his own house to protect the woman.

how is this equality?

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