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elampiro: I don't agree.
Where did he play against Leverkusen and Sociedad?

those are shyte teams - leverkusen that should have conceded 6 goals or sociedad that should have conceded 5 goals. abeg, this is the premier league where teams are well organised & defend like somalian militia....

afrodoc: It does not depend only on Rooney.
Moyes is the one that needs to pull his head out of his arse.

Rooney has to be more consistent no doubt but we also need better performances from Nani,Young,Fellaini and all our defenders.

If the rumor is true please Rooney should be offloaded to Monaco or Madrid.

if everyone plays where they should be during games, then we have nothing to worry about. there are still 29 games to go - enough time to haul ourselves back to the top where we belong.

had moyes showed more bottle against west brom & southampton, we would have won those games but instead, he went defensive instead of throwing more attacking options to kill the game.

hectorsector: What are our chances of winning the English title this season?

80% if rooney pulls his head out of his arsë. the rumour now is rooney wants £300k/week before he signs another 5-year contract.

*** Another issue. I concur to those who think Nani might never realised his dreams. After I saw him captain Portugal in their last match, I knew from the performance that he has a long way to go. He plays himself into tight corner every time, he likes to isolate himself too much. Some of his qualities that made him unique are not working well for him at the moment. I doubt if we will ever get him back to his best.

this is so wrong.....
smalling made nani so ineffective last night - he didn't overlap throughout when nani was ahead of him & nani had to deal with 2 different markers each time.

when valencia & janujaz came on, valencia as a RB was making decoy runs to cause problems for stoke & the attack generally got better from then on. rafael should be the first choice RB but i can understand why he didn't start against stoke - his height is a disadvantage against a team like stoke.

nani still provided the cross that led to our first goal. he wasted 2-3 attacking moves but that's because he's eager to make something happen instead of the tiki-taka nonsense the forwards were attempting at the edge of the box.

BinghiNya: Elampiro and Dademola our guy Rooney is keeping haters like coogar silent. Coogar where is the Rooney stats again

even a broken clock would be correct at least twice in one day. a swallow doesn't make a summer. rooney was good last night & i remember posting a comment about his good performance immediately after the game.

we are not asking him to give one good performance every 3-4 games. we are asking for consistency like suarez, giroud & aguero are doing for their respective clubs. rooney pinching £250k/week from our coffers simply needs to do more.

chaircover: Bellong what will they do? Infact how will they even say it?

Dear errrmmm there is something I need to tell you. . .

And realistically how many men will still go ahead and marry the woman? Will she keep on telling prospective suitors and they all run away for the rest of her life

The irony is that she didnt make herself pregnant and it was men that got her pregnant the 4 times, men sow their wild oats all over the place yet still want to marry untouched virgins. There are bound to be cockkups like this. Too many perpetrators and too many victims jare.

she made an ovum available to be fertilised. she should be held accountable for her action. men didn't get her pregnant the 4 times, was she räped or morning after pills weren't in existence in those years?

chamotex: Still not impressed with the quality of our play.
Seems like we are just smudging the cracks that will eventually split open very soon.
Anyways the 3 points was crucial.

I have no confidence in this team anymore

they were out of their depths in the final third for most parts. no pace & urgency till janujaz came on. nobody had the common sense to drill the crosses low to evade huth & shawcross.

there's still a lot of work to be done....

Purist: Gotta give DM some credit here. His subs were on point today. GGMU!

he got it right cos we were trailing - ordinarily, he wouldn't have gotten chicharito on the pitch.

the team that started was too good to have conceded goals & trail at home. my frustration was the sheer number of ineffective aerial incursions that stoke defenders were dealing with at ease.....

super-strong team - no complaints at all....
rafael dropped for smalling cos stoke have too many tall players.

sheniqua: No be nigerian men dey give mad women belle ?
But I think this is just someone trying to drive traffic to a blog by picking up pictures from the Internet and using it.
These people may even be from Papua New Guinea

that's not because of any sëxual gratification - it's cos of ritualistic purposes. 3 mins of humping a mad woman with the promise of N10m. poverty would force their hands to do it.

How many pregnant women in Nigeria wear stretch jeans. See her hair,no Brazilian weave

she's not pregnant - what you are seeing is accumulated fatty acids caused by nkwobi, gulder & amala mounds.

gothrones: Coogar, haba now. Why you dey talk like say you no understand men? Few men will say no to punny, even if the lady is pregnant.

gross!!!

sheniqua: This may even be an act or a nollywood scene

you are very correct - it looks like something zeb ejiro would direct. i saw a wet patch on the bed.....like her bladder had leaked or she broke her water.

sheniqua: Maybe na the man own the belle sef
I blame the husband for not satisfying his woman
He pushed her to it
All these men with dead abunnas walking about
Poor girl
Who knows what she has suffered till she succumbed to temptation and found solace in a man with a functional apparatus
[size=14pt]All of you should try and put yourselves in her shoes and stop condemning her[/size]

she's not pregnant - that's the normal size of her belly. these cheap bloggers would write nonsense to drive traffic. which sane man would penetrate someone else's pregnant wife?

Ibime: Why would a biter be allowed to judge, eh Sauron?

bite who? are you dyslexic?
fatso, don't make me drop 16 for you here that would get you decapitated before your tourney. i am nothing to be messed with. if you are hörny for sauron, heard he's in togo - you can go find him there.

Ibime: Sauron, stop lying!!!

i am not sauron....
last i checked, sauron bodied you in the 2 battles i read on this section months ago. his verses & his polysyllabic schemes were awesome.

i would be a judge in this tourney though & school you baby battlers how it's supposed to be done. any netcee that does not come with a rebuttal gets zero from me.

Ibime: I was the King then and still the King now, and you were one of ma victims in 09/10!!!

me in 09/10?
you must be hallucinating - i have never dropped a gem in this section. none of y'all cats possesses the verbal latitude & the pen game to text-battle.

GustavoFring: Lampard is not a 10.

he's a defender then....

Even in one of the formations you posted, he is playing centrally in a defensive 433.

The fact that he is playing ahead of makele does not mean he is operating primarily in the space occupied by the likes of Mata and Oscar.

that's exactly where he operated..... he's at the tip of the triumvirate with little or no defensive duties. lampard played in the hole under jose mourinho, this was why he was chelsea's highest goalscorer in 04/05 & 05/06 seasons. don't argue with facts - lampard was basically doing what ozil is doing at arsenal presently.

GustavoFring: Edit: I aske for match report, you're posting some rubbish pics with no source as if we don't know that Eidur mostly played in the hole whenever he was fielded.

I continue to insist that Lampard is never, has never, and will never be a Number 10.

why don't you just raise your hands up & admit you are wrong instead of trying to wriggle out of your error with stronghead -

the formation i posted were match reports - can't you see substitution(red arrows), number of goals scored, yellow cards, etc in the image? why do you chelsea fans like arguing for the sake of it?

even in 06/07, lampard still played in the hole ahead of ballack & others....

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GustavoFring: So late runs into the box qualify as the hallmark of a 10?

Were Ballack and Essien not also doing this in the very same games?

As to your assertion that that Lampard played in the hole for any diamond formation whether under JM or Ancelotti, I call BS.

Ballack Played in hole behind Sheva and Drogba, and Deco and sometimes Malouda played behind Drogba and Anelka.

Lampard has always played in a Central Position.

I dare you to bring any match report of any game where Lampard was primarily operating in an advance position.

i have already posted the formation in 04/05 & 05/06. if you want more, tap my cell.

GustavoFring: Mourinho played a 433 with Lampard having licence to Roam further up the pitch

He was never a 10.

And we never really played a pivot in a traditional sense. Essien was not really playing as Central DM but as a Box-to-Box CM

nah......
when you did you start watching chelsea? lampard has always been a number 10, making late runs into the box just behind drogba.

then there was a time jose had to fit gudjohnsen/shevchenko & drogba in the same team, lampard was the lone wolf in the hole behind the 2 strikers.

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GustavoFring: The Number 10 plays in the 'hole' just behind the striker.

Lampard plays in the Central Midfield as a central midfielder not a Number 10

lampard was a number 10 in many games that had mourinho lining up makelele & essien in the pivot. he was the closest to drogba apart from the inverted wingers(robben, duff, joe cole, etc)

besides, lampard has scored 50+ goals from the penalty spot at chelsea in all competitions. i will not even mention the 70+ goals scored from deflected freekicks.

Ibime: Then this is no tournament. You might as well cut the charade and challenge me direct for the throne, thats if you don't fall to Joshuabase, Blaqbones or Illscripts before then. With Thunder and Prekky involved, this becomes a tourney with 6 or 7 possible Champions, otherwise ma motivation go dull. I can't consider the winner official King when two of the top four names are missing. Infact I'm withdrawing ma name till Prekky and Thunder join in, especially Prekky.

which throne?
see me see palava - ibime is laying claims to which throne? hell no - the best netcees here have left the scene since 2009/10 circa.

[quote author=Mr_TA]I like Carrick a lot but I view him as a different type of player to Lampard,Gerrad and scholes. He doesn't make runs into the box or carry the ball he's a deep lying playmaker, a pirlo more than anything else. May as well compare Cristiano to Zlatan.[/quote]by the same token, i also think ibime is being idiotic when he goes straight to goals/assists when midfielders are being discussed.

lampard/gerrard are prolific setplay takers for their teams which skew their assists/goals statistics....so goals/assists should not matter otherwise lampard is better than iniesta.

GustavoFring: Lampard over Gerrard, Carrick, Xavi, Iniesta, Scholes....even God sef.
Lampard IS God

scholes is better than 5 lampards cloned together. scholes ran a football game like no english midfielder has done in about 50 years.

[quote author=Mr_TA]Well no, Gerrard is obviously better than Lampard.[/quote]is gerrard better than carrick?

Katsumoto:

Lampard that hasn't scored at a tournament since 2004 and has no goal in two World Cups despite goals being his only contribution.

Lampard is shiite.Lampard has played for a better team than Gerrard; that is all.

I didn't say Gerrard was great, I am saying he is better than Lampard by a mile.

he scored against germany in the last world cup but dayokanu disallowed it.

^^^^

while gerrard did this to his team at different times in his career.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJIi86iywqU


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watch from 3.00 in the last clip.

Katsumoto:

Lampard to Gerrard!! Ok, thank God for individual opinions.

lampard still understands his role - in his peak years, he won for chelsea as a very important piece in the team. gerrard is just the midfielder version of rooney.

gut-busting runs in the game that stay in the memory of the fans but amount to nothing. why try to take on 8 players & lose the ball when carrick's vertical pass achieves it's aim & even leads directly to a goal that wins matches?

Katsumoto: And I was taking you seriously as a football fan. Anyone who rates Fat Frank above Gerrard is a Chelsea fan.

Gerrard has carried Liverpool for years. If you are looking for one of the best Champions league finals performances, Gerrard would be up there. All Lampard has is a good shot and sometimes, it is even deflected. Lampard can't bend, can't run past players. Gerrard does all that. Ibime, please go and sleep.

lampard is better than gerrard - unless you find roy of the rovers antics appealing, gerrard shouldn't even be playing for england.

he's not positionally disciplined - this is why benitez kept moving him. left wing, right wing, behind the centre forward, etc where his mistakes won't hurt his team.

yes he scores goals & runs like a headless chicken but he lacks a football brain. go on google & read what arrigo sacchi said about gerrard.


“When I was director of football at Real Madrid I had to evaluate the players coming through the youth ranks. We had some who were very good footballers. They had technique, they had athleticism, they had drive, they were hungry.

"But they lacked what I call knowing-how-to-play-football. They lacked decision making. They lacked positioning. They didn't have the subtle sensitivity of football: how a player should move within the collective. And for many, I wasn't sure they were going to learn".

“You see, strength, passion, technique, athleticism, all of these are very important. But they are a means to an end, not an end in itself. They help you reach your goal, which is putting your talent at the service of the team and, by doing this, making both of you and the team greater.

"In situations like that, I just have to say, Gerrard's a great footballer, but perhaps not a great player."

Ibime: Carried wetin? Carried them to eighth place in the table as soon as Xabi Alonso left?

Carry ko, carry ni!

Greatest English midfielder of last 15 years is Scholes, then Lampard. The others are not worth mentioning.

And 3 slaps to whoever mentioned Carrick when midfielders are being discussed.

carrick is not worth mentioning? if chelsea had carrick in their midfield, they would have won 7 league titles since the roman era.

what gerrard/lampard do is to play rubbish for 90 mins then score a goal or two after their stupidity has made their team concede 5 goals in the other end.

carrick is the quiet worker who no one seems to notice but does his job neatly & effectively. drogba's offside goal & aguero's last minute goal is the reason carrick hasn't won 7 straight league titles.

think about it.......

elampiro: Drogba for Chelsea? What about Lampard and Cole? Liverpool was had Gerald and Caragher. You did not mention them.

when all hopes seem lost in munich, who dug chelsea out from the grave muller placed them in? it was drogba

*** one of Brazil best squad ever did not win the world cup in 1982. Does it mean the players were not gifted technically?

that 82 team were underachievers - they had what it takes to win that world cup but they chose a wrong match to drop form & paolo rossi made them pay. they played italy off the park but individual errors in the defence destroyed brazil.

I am almost sure Ronaldo will never win anything in the national team. Messi may manage to go into retirement with just Copa America cup should Argentina win soon. Now these two are under achievers?

portugal actually punch above their weight. you can only name 4-5 decent players in their team. same as argentina - they have not been producing top players lately. however, on paper, the english team looks promising but when push comes to a shove, they fail at the big stage.

elampiro: If almost all of them won champions league then it meant they are actually gifted individually and technically. They are not over hyped in my opinion. Liverpool was the most feared team in Europe during Bernitez. They played two finals and were winning home and away.

if almost all of them won champions league & they cannot transfer that form into the national team then they are underachievers. they should be doing better for the 3 lions - english league had the champions league competition in their pocket between 2005 & 2011. what did the players win for england in this period? nothing!!! they even failed to make euro 2008....

England have only not done well collectively but individually the players can hold their own any where. English clubs were always in the UCL last four between 2005- 2009. So the players deserve their ratings. I see no over hype there.

they don't deserve their ratings - in that period of champions league dominance, the foreign players were really the drivers of the success of english clubs. ronaldo for united, drogba for chelsea, henry for arsenal, hamann, alonso, garcia, etc for liverpool.

Katsumoto: Scholes or Carrick or Lampard could not have carried a poor Liverpool side for a generation - Gerrard has done that. Ferguson is just being an ar.se as usual. There is no way Carrick is better than Gerrard.

gerrard has done that & won what? gerrard has no league title to his name so what exactly has gerrard done for a generation? he's the most overhyped player in england.

the common denominator in united's success between 2006 & 2013 is michael carrick in united's midfield. he's won 5 league titles in 7 seasons playing in the most important position for man utd. if he's the type that craves the limelight, he would be worshipped in this country.

lay down carrick's credentials & compare to gerrard and the scouser would be embarrassed. besides, you never can tell who is capable of carrying a midfield on his back. would you have wagered on aaron ramsey carrying arsenal's midfield on his back in the summer?

Katsumoto: Well, in my experience, English fans always state that they have world class players. The realistic fans are a minority; reading the blogs on the BBC and other sites, one soon realises that English fans believe that Lampard, Rooney, Terry, Hart, Beckham are amongst the best in the world.

listen, it's the internet age. public blogs like BBC, guardian, dailymail, etc have their own share of laboratory retards. patriotism beclouds the judgements of the majority posting here so you cannot always get a balanced view. however, when you read well-moderated blogs then you will see the seasoned english fans who pay to watch football games have no confidence in the national team - they deride them at every opportunity they get.

Ibime: Wetin you remember no concern us. We Chelsea fans remember them and the statisticians have counted them. Frank has the highest output of any central midfielder in history!!!

at least close to 100 of lampard's goals for club & country are from the penalty spot. same as gerrard! like fergie said in his book, carrick & scholes are better technically than gerrard & lampard but the media darlings pad up their mediocrity with goals scored from penalties & freekicks.

Katsumoto: This debate isn't about players, its about countries. Spain were tagged as underachievers until they won because they have always had technically gifted players. We can't really say that about England. No one is saying England are underachievers because no one outside England believes England can win the WC or Euro cup. There is a difference between being an underachiever and being overhyped. If this current German squad doesn't win any trophy, then they would be underachievers. Because many believe they have the players to win. England on the otherhand is overhyped and have been since 1966.

to be honest, the seasoned english fans don't rate english players. the media don't speak for everyone. there's hardly any article in the english media that does not get shouted at by english fans. majority of the english fans are realistic about the chances of the english team & they are the biggest critics of the 3 lions.

elampiro: England cannot be termed 'under achievers' because they have won a world cup trophy in the past. Get it straight.

But Spain were still zero despite being a home for foreign players influx and a bouyant economy at the time.

england are the biggest underachievers in world football. with the calibre of players & the state of the art facilities in the country, england should have won at least 3 world cups since 66 and perhaps another 2 trophies in the european championship.

the golden generation - hargreaves, neville, cashley, rio, carragher, brown, terry, campbell, beckham, scholes, gerrard, lampard, rooney, etc won nothing for the country & nearly all of them won champions league for their respective clubs.

funkybaby: KSA is fully booked till 2017. so any "lagbo lagbo" is on hold till then.

An after party ain't no party without KSA performing life.....all night.

KWAM-1 can provide the same level of entertainment if not more. KSA is too lazy & he doesn't start singing till 2am.

Idowuogbo: Hmmm... School me o! Ayam a learner

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