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Science/Technology › Re: Pygmy Sperm Whale Butchered On Lekki Beach by coogar: 1:12pm On Mar 15, 2013
when nigerians start getting mouth diseases later in the year, they would blame it on juju/witches. they don't even know what killed the spërm-whale before hacking it with their knives.

poverty is not only a disease, it's a curse!
Fashion › Re: Toolz Covers TW Magazine by coogar: 1:06pm On Mar 15, 2013
[quote author=Ejiné]The Body Magic she has on is actually visible in her abdominal area.

She's still facially alright.

And she got asss for days.[/quote]body magic?
come, your eyes have x-rays?

obowunmi: small pikin - how will a fuly dressed FAT woman make your small tomtom rise? WTH undecided undecided undecided
spare him, he's a virgin!
Celebrities › Re: Jim Iyke Starts Shooting 'Unscripted' Reality Show (Pictures) by coogar: 1:05pm On Mar 15, 2013
kulyie: ehen thank you professor know all,i like jim like that
go and marry him - he's still single!
Fashion › Re: Toolz Covers TW Magazine by coogar: 1:04pm On Mar 15, 2013
niggaman: standing ovation from my down below. OMG!!! how do i get up from my office seat without anyboding noticing. o Lord give me the strength so dat dis thing will come down.
pervert alert........
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:50pm On Mar 15, 2013
[quote author=Alaba_Slim]Wey dat coogar wey tell mi say engrish klubz no dey take uropa league serious, nonsense talk. Pesin go dey hin house dey tell mi how mgt of anoda coy wey hin no dey part of dey take run their bizne$$...na wa 4 support 4 engrishman nyash[/quote]they don't take it serious - spurs played yesterday without bale, lloris, assou-ekotto and many of their top players. chelsea just have to win something this season as they are too far away from winning the league. man city and man utd would always put the league ahead of europa cup.

Emperoh: Two types of people exist; those who see the glass as half full and those who see it as half empty!!
that's long talk - 2 types of people exist in the world, the wise ones and the fools. under the cover of this debate, de gea has bagged a call up from his national team just this morning. yeah, de gea is shyte....shyte enough to be called up for spain whereas torres and javi martinez failed to make the cut.

i laugh in obafaiye!
Fashion › Re: Toolz Covers TW Magazine by coogar: 12:47pm On Mar 15, 2013
Idowuogbo: Abeg dress go one side joor! Her wardrobe no make sense. Pretty or not pretty, dat ish she gat on don't look right.
how many nigerian celebs can dress? you would die of disappointment if you concentrate on what they wear. in 2013, toolz still stands in front of a magazine with bra lines and panty lines. i am done - #timetogopuke
Sports › Re: Shooting Stars Of Ibadan (Oluyole Warriors) Fan Thread! by coogar: 12:40pm On Mar 15, 2013
they should bring leventis united back......that's the only nigerian football club that had the hallmark of a european club! they are well-organised with the DNA of man utd!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by coogar: 11:40am On Mar 15, 2013
mukina2: shey ya'll know board bans work now.

if ya'll do not stop the constant insults , it will be enforced angry

and even if you come with another name it will also be banned.
ban them all, mukina.
let it remain only me and you and then we can discuss how to get sagna a face reconstruction. grin
Politics › Re: Reasons Why "My Oga At The Top" Jokes Must Stop. by coogar: 11:34am On Mar 15, 2013
acidtalk: The country isn't working because rather than you finding workable solutions to the problem on ground you are adding to it by making it look like a trivial issue
what solution can you find to a country that is sick in the head? the government must lead by example but people like you vote crooks and rogues into power and then come online to defend their obduracy.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by coogar: 11:32am On Mar 15, 2013
dayokanu: Sergio Ramos Torres
https://i.minus.com/iUBSRv0UvCl8F.gif
torres cannot score then this happened

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Politics › Re: Reasons Why "My Oga At The Top" Jokes Must Stop. by coogar:
so we should not laugh at the state of the country where semi-illiterate hold top jobs and qualified graduates are doing driving dangote trucks? i think the op is high on khat. in countries where things work, that obafaiye dude would have been forced to resign for bringing his noble profession into disrepute!

he should have just said he's not conversant with the website address - we all know most of them are old school. they used 4-figure table instead of calculators. making a complete mockery of himself speaks volume about the state of the nation. acidtalk, may your oga at the top write you a sack letter this week for questioning our sense of humour!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:08am On Mar 15, 2013
montelik: Haba Coogar. Take it easy and don't over harass our newcomers, give them time to get used the thread. wink

We welcome diverse opinions here no matter how unpopular, but please don't expect to not be challenged if some of us disagree, some might bite their tongue but others will engage you. This thread can have some very robust discussions, don't take it personal just give your 2 cents.
there are diverse opinions and there are foolish ones.
i welcome diverse opinions too but back them up with credible articles. i have a zero tolerance for muppets telling me telegraph and mirror are his sources for determining who a good goalkeeper is. we maintain a very high standard of comments particularly on this thread and i wouldn't like this place to be turned into the arsenal thread/chelsea thread!

dademola: rolleyessmiley why wnt he take it personal, wen i hav proven dt he is more of a cybercafe person who is more obssessd wit nmbrs and stats, dan a soccer fan?? Like i sed earlier, oga cooger, if we nid figures in dis thread, we'd kal u. Bt wen it cmes to issues dat deal wit deductive reasoning/intellect....... U knw d rest nau!!smiley
you have the brain power of a culex mosquito!
without the stats and numbers, let's give the title to swansea - they have played the best football all season. no need to add 3 points for every win or a point for a draw(those are numbers). i think spërmflakes have occupied where your braincells should be. this is modern football and it's backed by stats!
Family › Re: How To Deal With Infidelity In A Marriage by coogar: 1:50am On Mar 15, 2013
christ!
this marriage thing is becoming scarier - all these steps to learn by heart?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:55am On Mar 15, 2013
dademola: wayray niwo boi yi sha!!piece of advice bro; spend less time online, and more time watching live matches. If u dnt understand anyfn(maybe during d course of a match, d ball goes outta play and d ref blows his whistle), feel free to cme here and ask questions. Den u can also show ur face here again, maybe wen derz a debate on 'who has d record of most shots at goal in man utd'?? Den u fit show ur face. Bt wen it cmes to issues like dis, or issues like 'who is tactically betta in fergie and del bosque', abeg no show face for here oo
you are a tool - i would school your entire village and their ancestors in the art of football punditry. when exactly did you start watching football? all you DSTV fans won't stop embarrassing yourselves on a public forum

you of all people? facebook fan?
i laugh in malaysian.....you with no history, no pedigree, no tactical nous and you want to discuss football. do you even know what makes a certain player offside during a game? you have lost all bragging rights when you sold your intelligence for a plate of soup. as it is right now, even my dog knows more football than you do.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:44am On Mar 15, 2013
elampiro: At the end of the season, we shall see who the best goalkeeper goes to. Perhaps the only time I will return to remind you and De Gea.

United facebook page has no rival in keeping up with Manchester United. You get to know things as they happen. When they are raw, being cooked and when ready to serve.
Bye.
that's what you think -
register on redcafe and open your eyes - facebook man utd page is for plastic fans. i would be embarrassed to even say i am a member of the facebook page. facebook? a haven of arm chair fans? elampiro - your stock keep falling by the day. just go and lie down!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:35am On Mar 15, 2013
dademola: hot pepper soup??bwahahahahahahahahahhaah!! cheesycheesycheesy. Madman!! In as much as u've bin an imbecilic fvcktard, still gat me reeling in lafta ova dt statment.
go to bed or go and get more de gea videos and watch with your eyes open!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by coogar: 12:33am On Mar 15, 2013
jackbauersballs: At least Torres scored a sweet goal today....

Shame about the Pena...
the ever reliable lampard missed one at a crucial moment and chelsea lost! torres scored the winner and missed a pen. if he had scored it, it wouldn't have made any difference.....he's completed the job.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:24am On Mar 15, 2013
dademola: cheesycheesy oga cooger oo!!! Y u dey ask me stupid quesion about anoda gk who is more expensive dan DDG aside buffon?? Is dt d issue here?? E goh sir!!! U're really daft.u still havnt answred me oo. So, per adventure, if d 2nd most expensive player costs an amount dt is now chicken change in world soccer, all eyes wld still b on him cos of d 'price tag'??
we have already ascertained you have traded your intelligence quotient for a plate of hot peppersoup. there's no need debating with a rëtard who does not understand media scrutiny. not even TB Joshua can save your failing intelligence.

elampiro: I am in treads where I interact with fans all o ver the world with the two admin resident in Old Trafford and they relate with the team everyday. I am also on United facebook page with the admin giving some of us the opportunities to video chat with some of the players. We get United news before they are news. We discuss constructively, and my views are highly appreciated and mostly liked. The admin sometimes praise my contributions, something they hardly do because the crowd and traffic is high. I enjoy everything there. This place is so dry because a few people want to monopolized it.

Goodluck. No wonder the traffic is low.
which says a lot about your football intelligence.......
anyone debating or analysing man utd on facebook cannot be taken serious - you are equivalent to a plastic fan. if you are not a member of redcafe then your man utd membership needs questioning. any of us here on nairaland would take your members of your other forums to the cleaners. we don't joke here and we stick to the facts and not conjectures. i almost stabbed you twice when you mentioned united facebook page. facebook??


hahahahaha, he does it again posting the bleacher report of january 24 to buttress his point that joe hart is better. see what facebook page has done to you? providing outdated stats when i gave you an article written 24 hrs ago that confirmed de gea's 20 league appearances. the article you posted was game week 22. it's as stale as fück! keep trying though, one day you would get to our level here on nairaland!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:11am On Mar 15, 2013
DAVID DE GEA
The debate as to who is the best Premier League goalkeeper has become more hotly contested this season as some number ones have come to the fore while the form of others have dropped.

In this piece we'll examine the vital statistics of those mad enough to play between the posts, looking closely at a battle for a certain England jersey that may not be as one-sided as most had believed.

A quick glance at the WhoScored ratings shows that the top keeper in the league this season has been David De Gea (6.99) and on closer inspection of his stats it isn't hard to see why. It's easy to say that the Spaniard will concede fewer goals (the third fewest in the division - 31) because of United's strength out field but the league leaders have actually conceded more shots per game (13.1) than each of the rest of the top 7, and even Southampton.

Many pinpointed the first leg against Real Madrid as the night that De Gea really came of age in a United shirt but in truth he’d been having an impressive campaign in the most part up to that point. Over his 20 league starts the 22 year old has faced 90 shots on target and made 70 saves. His overall save success rate is therefore 77.8% and the best of any first choice keeper in the league - Swansea's reserve stopper Gerhard Tremmel has saved just over 80% of the shots he has faced in 12 appearances.


Ranking second for the same statistic is Chelsea's Petr Cech, who has been called into action more often than he's been used to in recent seasons at the Bridge. Only five keepers have faced more shots on target than the Blues' number one (115), and of those only Mark Schwarzer plays for a side in the top half of the table. The Czech international has made the fifth most saves in turn (89), giving him a success rate of 77.4%.

It's perhaps the third and fourth placed keepers here who catch the eye though, with Ben Foster, fresh out of international retirement, next up. The West Brom keeper has made 82 saves in 22 appearances this season, facing 111 shots on target in total. His save success rate of 73.9% is only just above another contender for Roy Hodgson's number one jersey, but it isn't Joe Hart.

John Ruddy's season was cut short by injury towards the end of last year having started the campaign in fine form. In 13 starts he produced 50 saves from the 68 shots on target he faced. A subsequent save success rate of 73.5% is marginally worse than that of Foster, but whilst splitting hairs between the two, the current England number one is way off the pace.

As the last line of defence for the champions Joe Hart has understandably faced fewer shots on target than any other first choice keeper in the league (72) - only 4 more than Ruddy, who has made 15 fewer appearances. He's conceded fewer goals per game (0.86) than any other keeper and kept the most clean sheets (13), but those stats somewhat mask his modest figures elsewhere.
de gea's critics should go and eat cyanide!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by coogar: 12:01am On Mar 15, 2013
where's that useless kraut comparing west brom to steaua bucharest that gave chelsea a tough time tonight in a make or mar tie?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:59pm On Mar 14, 2013
dademola: mr cooger ooosmileysmiley. DDG is targeted by d media cos he is d 2nd most expensive GK in d world. For hw much?? A paltry 20m in an era where even more money is spent on plyrs dt r not even upto DDG's reputation prior to his move to d EPL?? Hw can u compare it to buffon's time?? Wen juve paid parma 30m, did u knw hw much 30m was as at dt time?? Hw much was even d most expensive playr dt time sef?? Mr cooger, ode ni yin sir!!! Like i sed earlier, deductive reasoning sir!!(pls just for once). Wetin concern me wit ur idiotic stats wey u dey post since?? Like i sed earlier, wen u cant post any stats, u talk jargons and u've shown u cant reason properly. Stop wastin time on stats and ,and stop depending on highlights, video clips, abridged versions of matches, and write-ups , and start watchn soccer sir!! During my campus daiz, assuming u were my project mate, i believe we'd hav gone plcs, cos, while u supply d stats, i'd supply d intellect, and maybe we'd be talking about a nobel laurette here. My point; u're only good at supplying stats; nothing upstairs!!
you are not even good at anything - your writing is as poor as your thought process. you are incoherent, basic and you are bereft of common sense. if you know any goalkeeper apart from buffon that cost more than de gea in the history of football, kindly tell us who the goalie is instead of ranting like a homoerotic pleb.

as big as your head is, it's too vacuous to contain any content.
you are a spastic with the same intelligence quotient as a pubic louse in your nether region. in this football matters, you are a rodent and i am at the apex of the food pyramid. what do you know about football? how many live games have you seen in your entire life? we are taking stats and he's relying on larry izamoje? there are some things your eyes miss when watching football that only statistics can reveal. start following me and i can assure you in 3 months(even if you are a plonker), your entire perspective would change when it comes to football!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:52pm On Mar 14, 2013
elampiro: Go and check you post and see that you stated Van Dan Ser conceded everything shot that went to his left.
comprehension is your problem - i said every penalty the chelsea players aimed to van der sar's left scored. anelka was the only one that changed his plan!

Secondly, the Arsenal has never played a UCL final with United.
i said champions league semifinal at the emirates - would emirates host a champions league final or are you this daft?

Thirdly, go and google Van Dan Ser best/top or top ten saves. Or Van Der Sar saves against Chelsea. The Arsenal photo is the only error there.
photos would not tell you the true story. you have to see the starting position, his movement towards the ball and the save itself. i have given you a video to watch. go and see what chelsea players were doing to van der sar. that was where terry was going to before he lost his standing foot and hit the post!

But your arguments are most illogical. De Gea at £18m pounds doesn't make him the best. Torres is the most expensive striker in EPL, yet a flop.
you must really be an imbecilë - who is attaching de gea's brilliance to his price tag? i said his scrutiny is higher because he's the 2nd most expensive goalie.

I am quitting this tread after today, because I don't get to learn anything here but endless argument. No one post United news, and analysis are biased in fabour of some players.
The worst United forum I have participated.
please don't come back.....
the thread has survived since 2005. if you leave, we would be happy to miss you. on some other united threads, you would have been banned for trolling.

go to redcafe and do 10% of the things you have done here and see if your IP won't be banned. you won't even survive their newbies thread, let alone get promoted to the main forum!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:42pm On Mar 14, 2013
Fabville: Did you all watch the Bayern Munich v Arsenal match yesterday where Javi Martinez of Bayern committed a far more dangerous play offence against Roscky than that which Nani committed against Arbeloa but was given a Yellow card?
that referee applied common sense - the turkish referee did not apply it!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by coogar: 11:35pm On Mar 14, 2013
dayokanu: I didnt know the gypsies were better than West Brom the 7th placed team in the EPL? interesting
why are west brom not in europe?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar:
elampiro: I can conclude the coogar doesn't watch soccer. I am beginning to wonder if it is not teenagers I am arguing with. Someone is saying De Gea is better than Van Dan Ser.

Also, did you see the height Van Dan Ser goes to take balls in flight? Strikers don't get to see most of them. Compare to De Gea that strikers jump higher than his hands.
stop arguing like a doofus
pictures don't tell the true story - the van persie pic you loaded for instance was a goal. that was the champions league semifinal that united won 3-1 at the emirates and van persie scored that particular penalty. show us videos instead of pictures and stop spamming the thread with meaningless pictures. what's your IQ again? 14?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGJ62A2_CTQ

the penalty shoot-out in the video above would reveal the van der sar weakness.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:19pm On Mar 14, 2013
dademola: DDG betta dan VDShuh Dis is a public forum, rememba?? Kindly kip ur foolishness, naivity and ignorance to d confinment of ur house and ur family sir. Pls stop advertising it on nairaland!!(of all places faa Smh). Athletico madrid?? Are u seriously comparing d demands of being an athletico madrid playa, to playing for d world renowed man utdhuh? Hw can u compare?? Bernabau?? And den?? Do i nid to drum it into ur deaf ears, dt for a gk, His confidence is majorly evaluated by his ability to command his box)wich wld ofcourse demand dt he takes certain brave decisions?? Do u watch and understand footie at all, or all u do is browse aimlessly for stats?? I want to believe ts d later, bro. Saves/ shot ratio to determine a kipa's reflexes?? Broda cooger oo!! Dis is a public forum faaa!!! Pls stop embarassing ursef here!!cheesycheesy. Anyways, u still havnt posted anyfn, and i'm still waiting.( pls dnt embarass ursef further wit any stupid stats dt wld further confirm ur shallow understanding of d game, as well as ur inability to decipher sme basic tinz expected of d average soccer fan). U talk of DDG and torres. Mehn!!! U shot ursef in d foot, son!!lets even assume d transfer fee is d problm, So, frm wot u're sayn, torress doesnt deserve d criticism he is gettn abi?? Or does it mean dt torress has also been a victim of witch hunt, wen it it evident d guy has been a big flop??deductive Reasoning, mahn!!! U nid it badly!!!
you have the cognitive reasoning of a rëtard!
in case you function on a negative integer intelligence quotient - de gea is the most expensive goalkeeper in the history of football bar gigi buffon. therefore, he's always going to be in the spotlight! every mistake, every indecision and every misjudgement would be in the spotlight and rightly so. the fact that he plays for man utd too(who nearly always are on tv) is the reason he gets more talked about than his peers in the league.

if you want to see my stats, read the previous pages - i don't repeat myself and i don't confine myself to beer parlour analysis like you do. i form my opinion based on facts. de gea commands his box, he picks crosses and his errors in the past get targeted by the opponents. if you don't think players who are expensive get more criticised than average buys then you should find a long rope, a strong beam to tie it to and do the obvious. with your below average penmanship, you are too intellectually shallow to be having this kind of debate with me. when you learn to write and read properly, then come back to me!

@ montelik,

the people you are talking to cannot see your gifs, they are using nokia 3310 to browse. don't waste your effort convincing a blind man that purple is different from green.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:11pm On Mar 14, 2013
elampiro: Coogar, you said Van Dan Ser conceded e everything that went to his left? OMG!
stop putting words in my mouth - i said van der sar is weak at diving to his left. it does not mean he's shyte at everything on his left but he's more likely to concede from there than his right.

I am beginning to wonder if you watch United matches. Have you forgotten suddenly his numerous great saves? One of his best saves was on his left. Chelsea Vs Machester United 2011 UCL semi final. Van Dan Ser suspended on the air for some seconds to ensure he got a tip on the curled shot to his left.
that's a goalkeeper's height - everyone of us here would make that save with the same starting position. go and watch the champions league final 2008 shoot out again and see how chelsea players kept killing him on the left. he was too weak to even push out the ones his hands reached.

You are fabricating points to support your argument. I won't argue with you again.
This was a much talk about save. How did you miss this?
fabricating points?
weakness is not outright poor! when you say de gea is weak at crosses, does it mean he has not taken a cross ever in his career? same applies to van der sar, he might make one or two saves to his left but he's generally weak at them. david villa adjusted himself once and then twice before pinging the 3rd goal to van der sar's left.......i knew it was going in the moment it left villa's boot. villa had been told to aim to his left thus the adjustment! hit it low against van der sar to his left and he's a dead man. charlie adam's freekick at old trafford was another one when we played blackpool - adam murdered van der sar!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by coogar: 11:02pm On Mar 14, 2013
dayokanu: I thought the reason he isnt scoring is that they dont give him penalties to play
1 goal in 360 Europa minutes vs Gypsies calls for celebration
the gypsies are better than all the teams ba has scored against in a chelsea shirt! every top player in the premier league this season has missed a penalty. van persie, rooney, mata, lampard, gerrard, etc. torres scored the winner(an exquisite goal for that matter). cometh the hour, cometh the man!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by coogar: 10:57pm On Mar 14, 2013
torres scored and created plenty of chances. who hasn't missed a penalty? thankfully, torres scored the winner in this game before the ba acolytes would say his goal is meaningless.

critics - the floor is open for you!
Family › Re: The Levitation Of Princess Aisha by coogar: 10:41pm On Mar 14, 2013
debosky: Ok write up - too many generalisations and a sense of unfounded superiority.

The grammatical and spelling errors would've been easier to overlook if the writer didn't set out in an authoritative tone to 'inform' us lesser mortals.

Everyone has to start from somewhere I guess...not a bad effort overall.
shut up, debosky.....mr grammar police!
"haven" and "having" - it's the same thing!
Family › Re: The Levitation Of Princess Aisha by coogar: 10:25pm On Mar 14, 2013
Ishilove: You are not familiar with the way i write, thats why you can say this. smiley

i will edit the post
i have never seen any of your write-ups, apologies!!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:23pm On Mar 14, 2013
elampiro: Charts and graphs are misleading.
misleading? facts are misleading?

First they didn't state the matches and scenarios that made up those figues.
Secondly, the charts you people presented didn't have same/tallied figures.
Thirdly, one stated De Gea had only made one mistake so far this season. Whereas I know I saw mistakes in Fulham game, Totteham, Liverpool and some others I have forgotten.
these points also apply to the other goalies - you are barely scratching the surface. the goals against fulham, spurs were vidic's fault. the game against liverpool is hard luck.

The only reliable chart is EPL league table. De Gea has conceded more goals than Hart.
When you argue that he had more saves? What are the qualities of those saves? The ones he punch weakly and Evans or Ferdinand had to clear the pieces. Even Rooney, RVP, infact everyone gets behind the ball except Chicharito.

Do you guys watch United matches at all?
you don't know your facts.....
de gea has conceded 20 goals, hart has conceded 24 goals. the other goals were conceded by anders lindegaard. besides, the defence also plays a part in the way it exposes the goalkeeper. man city have a better protective shield for hart than de gea. united concede more shots on target than man city.

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