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Ibime: Hazard, Mata and such will play their tiki-taka football regardless of any low blocks, switchback or counteraattack instruction. I hope Coogar would not come and tell us (as he claimed about Spain) that they play "too much tiki-taka for Torres".

shut up your idiotic mouth.....who would mata play tiki-taka with?
little did you know mata was bought to bring out the best of torres. in my
opinion, mata is loads better than david silva. he's the best attacking midfielder
in this league....didn't take him years to announce his presence in the worst chelsea
squad under roman.....he must play for torres to blossom. his through-passes are actually
what torres needs to beat off-side traps and leave goalies with their arses planted on the pitch.

Lets look at the so-called front 4 in all these teams. All of em are defensive brutes.
Kuyt, Gerrard, Tevez, Rooney, Samuel Eto', Sneijder, Ronaldo. . . all of em able to soak up pressure in "low blocks" before making their talent count on the counterattack. Contrast with Mata, Hazard, Marin. . . none of em able to soak up the pressure.

don't be silly. hulk or ramirez would be a part of the front 4 i suggested.
there's no way any manager would play marin ahead of hulk. hulk is also a brute and
nando torres is a brute as well. he's bullied vidic before!

You might as well buy 3 Arshavins and ask them to soak up pressure before launching "switch-back".

you're not making sense.....
instead of you to bow down to my managerial prowess that a concept i had months
ago is what chelsea are going to, you're busy yarning megedefegede......

there was a reason roman paid £50m for torres......he musta loved what torres did
@ liverpool. to make him play like he did at liverpool, he needs the kinda support
and technical players he had at liverpool. as long as roman sees torres as the arrow-head,
this must be the tactical approach otherwise chelsea's highest goalscorer would always be lampard
or even john terry - and that reduces the market value of torres! roman wouldn't want that!

mbulela: whether 442 or 451 or 433, a weak midfield is still a weak midfield. It is only more exposed in a 442. ours is truly a weak midfield,irrespective of the formation.

our midfield is not weak....it;s the formation that is weak.
i dare you to name a midfield that anderson-fletcher-carrick haven't murdered.
when carlos quieroz was here and he played 3 in the midfield in big games, united
were beating teams even without ronaldo atimes....then he left and fergie slipped
back into his idiocy.....

[quote author=Mr_TA]I know what you're saying but my point is, it still works for him as SAF prefers having more bodies in the box for the wingers. Its only an issue because our central midfield is so weak.[/quote]that can also be achieved in a 4-3-3 formation.
look at barcelona when they hand henry, messi and etoo.
chelsea when they had robben, drogba and duff. arsenal with walcott, gervinho and van persie.

shymmex: I had a contract phone from early, and ran a bill of more more than £700 on the thing..

i thought as much!
what a devil you are.

That's why a lot of them end up doing 2/3 MSc. degrees...

you're right on the money!
it's not out of place for the m.eng grads to quickly go into mba n so on and forth!

shymmex: I didn't get a student loan for mine... My loan application was rejected.

how much debt did you acquire in your teenage years buying consoles,
prada shoes and trainers?

I wanted to be a doctor in secondary school, because I was good in biology, chemistry, and mathematics - but things changed... Computers became more popular, and IT jobs became more lucrative.. I had to move with the flow, and I developed an interest in programming.... Got into uni, and I found out programming was too broad, and inconclusive - and new programming languages keep coming into the market... I didn't want the stress of having to learn new languages every 6months..

So, I decided to explore the IT market - to see which aspect was as lucrative as programming... And network security proved to be the most lucrative - even more lucrative than programming...

you've done well for yourself.....
all i am saying here is kids who got to uni early and went straight for m.sc/m.eng
graduated at the age of 21/22......there was no stop-gap involved or any work experience
in between. they just rammed through their programmes for 4 years. that's quite normal in the uk!

queensmith: o wow, o wow, you will bullshyte on the www like this? Maybe in south bank where the children just happen to stumble upon enough money to pay for their cheap master degrees.
There were barely any 22 year olds in my final year of university talkless of the masters and the youngest around were foreigners. So you are chatting absolute and total shyte. Mshew.

http://ww2.prospects.ac.uk/cms/ShowPage/Home_page/Main_menu___Research/Labour_market_information/Graduate_Market_Trends_2008/Postgraduate_trends_in_the_UK__Summer_08_/p!eiFgddL

you were born a cretin, and you would die a ninny!

the tool is bringing out stats that also included ph.d(doctorate degree).
postgraduate = masters degree and every other thing that comes after it.
i am talking about masters and the troll is talking something else.
stop engaging me in a verbal intercourse whenever there's an intellectual discourse.

you're not as smart as my toe-nail. the average m.sc graduate in the uk is 21/22.
heaven knows what you did in your early 20s that prevented you from graduating when other
smart kids were graduating. whoring is not a career. if you weren't told, i am telling you
right now. olodo!

shymmex: How do you pay for it? That's the question..

student loans, mate!
the funds are accessible....

shymmex: @Coogar
Which do you prefer:

- Doing a course just because you think it's the next step?
- Finding your niche, or career choice before taking the next step?

Bear in mind, you have to pay thousands of £ for it - because it isn't free of charge.

i knew i was going to be an engineer at the age of 6. i was quite good at math n science.
once you know the final destination, the rest is easy to deal with. science n engineering
will always sell. it's just that most students can't cope with the challenges.

[quote author=Mr_TA]I think we've actually shown that it can still work and can still be very effective for us. Unfortunately our weak midfield is one of the things that exposes our in a 442. If we had a stronger midfield and still played 442, people wouldn't put this much emphasis on formations.[/quote]what can 2 strikers do that a lone striker cannot achieve?
having 2 upfront is a waste of human resources in the midfield....it's only
a necessary tool when chasing a match...we don't have to start with 2 strikers.

reactive teams are the ones walking with the trophies these days. spain/holland/italy
all have huge depth of quality strikers and yet you don't see them playing 2 strikers
in any match. what's with fergie n his 4-4-2 philosophy? are we still in the 80s?

Vikin: @Jay bee... you are supposed to be the moderator in this section and you are busy derailing this thread....someone needs to moderate your a**s

ohh shut ur trap and get a life.
mentally-handicapped being like yourself....all you want to do
all day is talk about the wife you can never have instead of
contributing meaningfully to an intellectual discourse.

if talking about b[i]o[/i]obs is your forte, go n join nigerianadultforum.com.

shymmex: Norm in Nigeria - but not a norm for a kid from the London slums... MSc. isn't free of charge - you have to pay for it... I had to save up to pay for it... And that's by getting a job..

oh spare me....
a kid enters uni at the age of 17...completes a 3 yr, b.sc and 1 year m.sc.
so when is he supposed to graduate? age 29?

this isn't about school fees or nigerian factor.
graduating with m.sc in the uk at the age of 22 is standard...unless you
didn't start your b.sc at 17/18(and that's quite abnormal).

shymmex: I studied computer science at BSc. - and Network Security at MSc.

I had to find a niche for myself, before moving forward - because programming isn't my thing.. It was a choice between Project Management, and Network Security - and working for a bit, gave me all the things I needed to make my choice.

It's not like I'm trying to get 'bigheaded' about it - this guy just pisses me off...

there's nothing to get "big-headed" about.... graduating with m.sc at 21/22 is a norm!

jay bee: @Shymmmex
Accountants with BSc's start from a more generous starting salaries than what you are quoting. Check prospects.ac.uk

Accounts assistant is different from accountants
same way engineering assistant is way different from engineers
One is a technician whilst the other is a professional
Spot the difference?

accountants with no b.sc but with acca get a bigger pay packet than what
he's quoting. account assistant is not accounting...it's a clerical role.

montelik: United will always be a base 4-4-2 team. This has gone beyond SAF, to being inputted into the DNA of this club. The way our players train, how recruit from the 1st team to the youth team. The same way I will expect Barca to always play a variant of the old dutch total football system for the foreseeable future(thanks to the influence of Johan Cruyff). We will always build from the base of 4-4-2 using wingers/players to provide the penetration or simply to stretch the field. Now we may play other formations for certain games and competition, but the base will always be 4-4-2.

I remember the one time we tried to change our base formation to 4-4-1-1 in 01/02 and blew the league in the process. We had just signed Veron and Ruud. We had a striker who was brilliant at hold up play and played upfront alone perfectly. Also one of the most stacked midfields in Europe with Giggs, Keane, Scholes, Veron, Beckham and even Butt. We started the season playing our base 4-4-2 in the league and 4-4-1-1/4-2-3-1 in Europe. But then SAF decides to start playing 4-4-1-1 in the league as well to help the team transition faster while bringing our European form to the league and then the wheels fell off fast. By December we were stuck at about 8th in the table losing and drawing to sides like West Ham, Bolton, Derby as well as all the big sides. Eventually thanks to the UCL break SAF switched back to 4-4-2. With Ole playing with Ruud and we got our form back on track with 8 or 9 successive victories.

We are a 4-4-2 team. It is our way. Now thankfully SAF has found a way to make sure our personnel is fluid enough to morph into whatever shape to be effective with out changing our basis 4-4-2. I am sure SAF has probably seen something in Kagawa that tells him he could adapt and contribute in a 4-4-2 if needed. Tom Cleverley made the most waves on loan playing in the hole for Watford. Many thought he couldn't play in a 4 man midfield. Yet he showed he could at Wigan and the few appearances he made here. Same was said of Scholes, even Carrick had question marks do to his laid back style and where he played for Spurs, but it worked. Just look at all our players. Almost every single one can play at the very least one other position proficiently. Park flourished mostly as a wwide froward for PSV, yet he played wing effectively for United. I am sure the coaching staff have the feeling is Kagawa can contribute, outside the position he mostly played for Dortmund.

Lastly, in my opinion we don't need to change from our base 4-4-2. We just need to bring the sort of players who can adapt and fit to what we do. Why change tactics that has long been our tradition. We can always play 4-3-3 or whatever when the need arises, but our base should remain 4-4-2 for now. Look how we started last season with 4-4-2 but with a front 6 six that worked hard and could immediately press high up the pitch incessantly.

the problems of 4-4-2 are quite vast...
apart from being a very vulnerable formation, it takes a toll on our players because of
the emphasis on the midfield 2 to defend and support the attack.

arsenal seem to have banish the hoodoo of injury hanging over their heads since switching
to 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3. city barely lost anyone to injury playing 4-2-3-1, chelsea posted a
cleaner bill of health playing 4-2-3-1/4-3-3 but united kept having players pop their hamstrings
with this idiotic formation.

the moment your opponents put a 3-man midfield against the 2-man midfield of 4-4-2, they would
take control of the midfield. a lot depends on rooney who must track back and help his 2-man
midfield but at the same time we rely too much on the same rooney to provide the goals. personally,
i think united need to scrap 4-4-2. it's old, obsolete and has been dumped by all the big clubs in europe.

shymmex: That's for nerds - I'm not a nerd.. I'm a normal guy!

i got my msc at the age of 22...i'm not a nerd!

i read hulk's deal is 90% complete.
chelsea are lining up another £40m to get the incredible hulk!

Ibime: So he bought Hazard, Marin and Mata to "defend on the halfway line whilst waiting for opportunity to put Torres clear through"?

yes....it's called counter-attacking.
united murdered mourinho in 06/07 using exactly that with rooney/ronaldo.
benitez's liverpool were only 4 points short of united in 08/09 with the same tactics

I hope the defensively weak Mata, Hazard and Marin will not concede three goals whilst waiting for such opportunity to materialise.

as long as you have 6 outfield players who are defensively minded, it does not matter what
the front four do. the key is having 2 deep-lying midfielders in mikel and lampard to screen the defence.
benitez used xabi alonso and javier mascherano and the front four was torres, gerrard, kuyt and riera/maxi.

Emenalo should continue plotting the graph (c) FBS, all I know is that Hazard, Mata, Marin and such are gonna play their footie in the opposition half, not "switchback"

there's no guarantee marin would even be starting.....hulk's deal is imminent
and you cannot say ramirez shies away from throwing tackles. it's the only way
chelsea can go if torres is going to be the arrow-head. fernando can only score
that way......just like michael owen!

Ibime: It will be a huge cultural change, especially for some of the players who came to rely on the ball sticking to Drogba in times of trouble.

The talk at the training ground is of ‘switch back’, a tactical trap that will be set next season for opposition defences.

They intend to draw the opposition away from their own penalty area, pushing up towards the halfway line before Hazard, Juan Mata or former Werder Bremen winger Marko Marin releases Torres for a one-on-one through on goal.

It is a system that will be borrowed from Liverpool after a study of Torres’s goals revealed that 56 of his 81 strikes for the club were scored in similar circumstances.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2151724/Roman-Abramovich-rebuilding-Chelsea-Pep-Guardiolas-arrival--Neil-Ashton.html#ixzz1wMIcLXg8


Na "switch back" wey Emenalo dey use deceive Oyinbo people?

Igbo man want yahoo Abramovic with monkey post moves.

So Chelsea's whole raison d'etre from now on will be a limited narrow approach which limits tactical options and never won any trophy for Liverpool.

I thought a sensible director should be looking at succeeeding from all angles, not shoehorning Chelsea into untried, untested and narrow one-dimensional style of play called "Switchback".

I hope SWITCHBACK will not become as infamous as SHEKPE KEEPING!!!

that's what i have been clamouring for 12 months now.
the aim is to bring out the best of torres....if you spend £50m on a striker, common
sense dictates the team should be built around him. torres works better when he's put
through one on one with goalie......that was how he sealed barca's fate @ camp nou!

emenalo reads nairaland - i have just confirmed that now.

jay bee: Make una leave Dr Ayettymama alone oh

trouble sleep yanga go wake am.....
coogar was bothering no one when slut ayettymama was yapping her
mouth!

Sagamite: Which kain doctor?

Winch doctor?

voodoo or witchcraft!

[quote author=Missy_B]Who be robot dumbest smart person?

Just take your woman and kiss her[b] before Coogar does.[/b]

Queensmith sure knows how to attract 'em all. [/quote]heaven forbid!

queensmith: huh? I honestly couldnt comprehend what you wrote here where is your second coon no2 to translate,

how can you comprehend it when you're a half-baked graduate.
i said it - you are an addle-brained minger....intellectually, you and
i shouldn't even be on the same planet!

so what you have said here is that your type is the cheap prostitutes in the drug ridden center of london? And you assume you are sane. . . . . .ok you don't. i was beggining to get worried, at least you know your class and level.

idiocy slept with lunacy and you are the product of that union.
i said your type is the tricks that beg to gimme some brain....that they beg to gimme
does not mean i yield to their pleas. in your own case, you would be hoping i agree
so you can rub my seeds in your tampon socket and get yourself pregnant.....
it's not out of place to think you would want to have a baby by an intellectual so there
can be a glimmer of hope for your children.

I wouldn't go near you or your £5 per head herpes riddled chlamydia infested ugly arsed illegal sluts with a 10ft pole. I can just smell the aids on you! eurgh! please stop talking to me I don't want to catch it! *vomits*

with your adipose cells and leprous butt? i have a better chance to lead the bnp!
you're nothing but a $1 LovePeddler who comes on the internet to build the bricks of your
tall dreams.

queensmith: ahhhhh lol, because i didnt write 'he must not be a d**khead' I will add that now!

stop dreaming, queensmith. no sane man goes after an idiotic wolly-minded trick like yourself.
you are in the same class with the chics @ soho who beg to gimme some brain....
in your case, you would be hoping i bust my seeds on your face so you can rub it in
your coochie to get yourself pregnant!

Ibime: What do you guys want with Kagawa?

You already have 3 wingers who cannot be shifted and a no 10 (Rooney) whose spot is sealed. Where is Fergie actually planning to play Kagawa?

fergie is a tool.....i am not even sure if he's got a
clue. running after kagawa and hazard when the centre
is as shallow as trebor! he should be looking at getting
a yaya toure clone - mvila, mascherano, tiote, diarra, etc.

nani, young n valencia are all better than kagawa/hazard!

Andre Uweh: Eden Hazard wants the Chelsea no 10 shirt, but as you all know, it is been worn by Juan Mata. What will happen.
Secondly, Drogba's no 11 shirt is vacant, who gets it?.

eden hazard wants chelsea's no 10 position. playing just behind the
centre-forward. he cannot demand the number 10 shirt.

ikeyman00: @@@@@

can fash tell us how much debt he ran lagos into

and the paying back side of things

you are a consummate r[i]e[/i]tard!
instead of your idiotic igbo governors to borrow a leaf
of how things are done to run a state, you are busy looking
at debt......how much debt has jonathan goatluck run nigeria
to? what positive thing can you point at that he's done?

StarBoard: Hate to disagree with you on some of the names you threw in.
de Gea-already proven winner with Spain and Atletico

he's a potential....yet to be a world beater.

Smalling and Jones already tasted big-time action in the EPL.
The DaSilva brothers-still scratching my head over both.Rafael helped Everton claw back a two-goal deficit among others.Remember the Bayern tie 2years ago?Despite years at senior level, neither is a regular due to rash displays.
Nick Powell?

you felt this way when fergie signed cristiano too, didn't you?

I still think we aren't following the plan properly.Ive asked this before and no one is coming close to answer it on my behalf: why do we have an academy/reserve side if we get to buy youngsters from other sides?unfortunately fellas arent seeing this as my point of view.Instead they focus on my reaction to signing another non-descript talent.

because other clubs are not grooming academic players like us.
look at city and chelsea.....how many players have they groomed?
those are our direct rivals....english clubs are handicapped in the grand scheme
of things. fergie can only choose players within 90 miles of old trafford.

1025: see, man u fans, unless the club and manager change their attitude towards putting more concentration on the ref than players, u will face a more difficult situation come next season. man u used to a team to be afraid of but these days, the only fear when playing man u is who the ref will be. no wonder blackburn rovers did what they did at old traford.
it is important to note that man u could not have made the top 4 this season if not for their key player(howard webb). all eyes are now on him and sooner or later, ppl will begin to ask, why howard webb always? watch man u whenever howard webb is playing along side ashley young or welbeck - penalty of different forms are assured.
i will be happy to see a man u that is made up of great players who win with or without howard webb. teams shld not be built around a single player(webb).

i am sure man utd winning 3 champs league is also because of howard webb, isn't it?

[quote author=ekt_bear]David Beckham studies.

And someone made a thread asking "Why is England More Developed and Stable Than America?"

Lmfao

Rather than subsidizing engineering, science, mathematics, they want to subsidize David Beckham studies.

Na wa for this UK[/quote]i think the subsidy has been removed now but the loans are still accessible.
university fees jumped from £3k per session to £9k per session under the tories.
it means the average student has a debt of nothing less than £30k as a graduate.

one way or the other, th brits still eat more from the public.
the amount of money they make with those cctvs catching overspeeding drivers
can feed nigeria for the next century.

[quote author=ekt_bear]Lmao

You are kidding?

So the taxpayer has had to pay money to send someone to study David Beckham studies in college?

No wonder the UK has lagged behind its peers.

Terribly managed country, it seems.

The US model where you get very little government assistance (except for student loans, which are abundant and easy to get) makes a lot more sense.

If you want to spend $120,000 studying a course that will lead to a $30,000 salary...no wahala.

But it is you and you alone who will be on the hook for that debt. The state won't subsidize your stvpidity.[/quote]as student loans which the student must pay back in instalments the moment he/she starts
earning £19k plus per annum. the country is not terribly managed. matter of factly, british
government take more from their citizens than any other country i know.

onila: i dont really get punchlines. .i just needed help and not rude answers

lawnmowers and hoes are garden implements...
so the rapper word-played "hoe" with "LovePeddler"

onila: just answer the fu-cking question!

you're a twit....the line is self-explanatory.
it's called wordplay in the art of rapping.

lawnmower = hoe = LovePeddler.

onila: my lawnmower home but my LovePeddler is still missing

what does that statement mean?

you should never have been allowed to use the internet!

nateevs: Get In!!!!!!!!
Welcome Eden.

has chelsea fc announced this officially?
eden hazard could be telling porkies as usual....he's a twit.
"i am signing for the champions league winner......in 2008? 2012? 2010? 2013?

it's a bit strange the club has not announced this the moment eden tweeted it.