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dare2think: Thanks!

Was at the parade and saw Terry from a distance! I have to admit, Even I could feel his leadership aura from a mile!

Asides from his childish antics, Terry is another lengend in the making.

I saw so many blue fans and chics from all over the world, I will never forget that day.

ohh please, john terry is a cunt.
he has been warned that if andy murray wins the wimbledon open, john
terry will not be allowed to lift the trophy. if drogba wins the next
nations cup, terry won't be allowed to hoist the trophy!

he's a sourpuss! taking someone else's glory.
gary neville was united's captain when man utd won the champs league in
moscow. he was injured and couldn't play in the final. when united won, i didn't
see neville in a united shirt dragging the trophy with rio(the captain on the night).

Sagamite: What makes you 100% sure she did not delete it from her phone as precaution because she lives with her parents?

maybe, maybe not.
the adult in this case should have been wiser to delete the images
on his phone too especially when he could have been pulled by cops
at anytime to explain why a topless child was on his phone.

I thought schools had desktops, not netbooks? Where is the child going to get the netbook from?

they use netbooks. the autistic ones amongst them use iPads.
i saw that with my very own eyes the last time i went to an
event in a school.

Really?
A 10 year old child would know how to completely delete their history on a desktop?

yes - they get the ideas from their other friends in school on how to get away with
their footprints.

And the desktop would be in the sitting room and they would get away with it everytime?
Stop sillily exaggerating. Kids of nowadays are not all Einsteins.

they might not get away with it every time but they would get away with most of it.
parents can't be everywhere. if you have a child that obeys all your commandments, it's
a joint effort. the credits shouldn't go to you alone cos a child would be what he wants
to be regardless of you idiabgbon policy.

I would rather attempt to than throw my hands in the air like an ediot and give up. I have a responsibility as a parent.

yes you do.....and the ones who have unruly kids attempted too but it was futile in the end.
i know a kid who got banned from attending any school in the whole of great britain. he was sent
to naija in the end. if you see this kid, he's the most composed kid you can see @ 7. yet, when he's
at school, he's a terror. he couldn't stop beating his classmates and the moment he gets home, he's
a saint. he fears only his parents, he does not fear school authorities so idiagbon policy has it's
limitations.

Don't ever under-estimate my resilience and intellect. I can achieve more than the average man with far less effort because I think differently. Those are some of the attributes that makes me a catch to women.

so tell me, how many women have you caught with your super-intelligence?

Sagamite: Who told you my focus was on the mother killing him?

My focus is on the girl's pix being on the mobile. There is no report on how it got there, but considering the amount of kids that have mobiles, the cultural background of these people (Bangladeshi) that would restrict her movement at 13 and the frequency young kids use to send explicit pix according to research, I can safely assume she sent it to him as her puberty hormones are raging and she feels "in love".

i am 100% sure the guy took the pics of the babe when she's topless.
what other explanation can you give? if she sent it to him with her mobile,
they should have found the pics on the daughter's mobile phone. it was the adult
that was culpable here, not the child.

He actually then put the pix online in his own childishness. That is the risk people face when they let young children have phones. Girls that are in their late teens and early 20s are very susceptible to such stewpidity, talkless of kids.

he's 20/21 for feck's sake. you are going to say a 21 yr old
is not responsible for his own actions too?

What hypocrisy?

As the whole school curricullum would inevitably evolve around online research, I can't avoid my kids not having access to internet without damaging their ability to compete in the real world. As, preferably, I would rather they do not use online when they are young because I know how easy it is to access rubbish or even be offered it without solicitation. But I would still attempt to control their access by making them have access to only my laptop or a desktop in the living room.

they let them use netbooks in school even though they claim their internet usage is monitored.

on your laptop, they can pretty much do anything, delete their footprints and you would
not know ish. kids of nowadays are super-smart. they tell you they are playing online games
on cbbc or disney but they are doing other things. how would you control such whilst you
are busy listening to larry king's rants on cnn. you can't be in 5 places at a time. this
is why the watchdogs are clamouring for online protection for these kids......

I would explicitly make it clear they are not allowed FB or twitter account but reality is that you cannot control what they do outside the house, they might set it up outside on school computers, but they would know my rules and breaking my rules have consequences if caught.

thank God you know that sometimes what they do at home is different from what they do outside.
it even becomes more difficult if their best buddies in school are given the access you restrict them from having.
grooming a child is a career. it's very very difficult to keep today's kids on a leash.

I don't even intend to have Sky in my house because of the junk I see them proffer as "teenage TV". They might see some of these programmes when they are at their friend's place but I will surely restrict the access to it.
Because something is hard to control in the wayward world we are developing does not mean I should throw my hands in the air like a foool and follow the crowd without trying.

i wish you all the luck you would need in your attempt but i am sure
after a while, you would be mentally exhausted. modern technology has
come to stay. there's nothing we can do about it until there's an airtight
web watchdog protecting the kids.

debosky: It must be three weeks old fermented cow piss that Dudu is high on. I wonder whether Wenger who is the highest paid coach in England is staying for loyalty or his £7m paycheck? But RVP should stay and suffer both low wages AND no trophies?

I jump am pass for the boy - either the board/Wenger show intent by signing the quality we need, or I endorse his departure with best wishes.

you are not a loyal arsenalista.

Sagamite: This is what a 13 year old girl did with her 21 year old "boyfriend" with a mobile phone that made her mother flip.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-18152002

Mother flipped so bad, she killed the murrafcker.

the age gap was the problem here, not the mobile phone.
if the boy was 14, the mother wouldn't flip...as far as the mum
was concerned, boyfriend was a pedo....

another thing, the topless pics were found on the boyfriend's fone,
not the daughter's. boyfriend was 21, he's not a child. i don't see
how this lends credence to the argument that kids shouldn't own mobile phones.

would you argue kids shouldn't use a desktop/netbook too? can they not
be on twitter/facebook/youtube with the laptop and derail just like they
would if they were using a mobile phone? can you see the hypocrisy in your argument now?

why is the mobile phone evil to a child and a netbook isn't?

StarBoard: Like I'm supposed to believe that.
So Anderson needs a partner to be effective.
New info.

of course....messi needs xavi and iniesta
to be effective. rooney need valencia and nani
to be effective.

queensmith: actually it does- sounds like a very good reason.

I assumed they had a problem before they got married- hence the 'why marry a man you do not love' commment.

how many women love the men they married? it seems you don't stay on this planet.
women often marry the men who are ready to take them to the altar. sometimes
the men women love are not ready for marriage when the woman is ready.

queensmith: what the hell are you on about?

i was attacking your comment...you said the woman shouldn't
have had a baby by the man she does not love. so if you don't
love a man and you get pregnant for him, you abort it?
i mean - does that make any sense to you?

mbulela: you and this your Anderson logic.
you no dey tire?
that boy is not it. Is he your religion?

our best central midfielder until he lost a partner
that synced with him.

queensmith: what happens when the world and earth beg you to do things you don't want to do? 10 years of a loveless marriage.

'beg him' 'pet him' 'pretend to him' at the end of the day our thoughts and emotions cannot be dictated by the outside world. Only we can decide what to feel inside.
How you can have children with a man you do not love or even decide to marry him is absolutely beyond me, imo you deserve this, simply because you didn't respect yourself enough to walk away when you knew you should have.
It may just be you are the type of person who cannot let things go, in that case I advise you to seek therapy, you have to learn to forgive and forget. Experience is only to make us wiser, not to gain enemies, especially not making your husband one.

you are right, she should have aborted them!!
may 2012, you still reason like someone born in the 15th century.

[quote author=c.fours]^ another fool in d making [/quote]thunder faya your yansh like guguru

oh... another point is this, OP was virgin before marriage which makes it all the more suspect. I wonder how old he was.

op was a virgin. he assumed wife was also a virgin but the wife wasn't.
men who think church is the only place to find good women are deluded. church
harbours more whores than the streets.

after the women must have led a promiscuous
life with their ages running out on them, they became converts and pretend to
oblivious brothers in the church. you won't get to find out the truth until one
marries them and the cookie crumbles!

[quote author=c.fours]^ shut up if you don't understand sarcasm. you make yourself appear like a fool[/quote]https://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li8m4pZG4W1qdtfdbo1_500.gif

[quote author=c.fours]@coogar,
truth is bitter.

there will be lot of chaos in the world if all fathers woke up one day and decide to do DNA test on their kids. especially families where it took a few years for the wife to conceive. [/quote]shaking my head!

[quote author=c.fours]If you don't have the patience any more, the solution will be for both of you to agree to sleep with other people. and have child(ren) that way. sometimes, the infertility comes from the male is why i suggest both of you to do it.[/quote]spoken like a true salacious woman that you are.

there's no hope for nigeria.....

Sagamite: I can guarantee you that you will struggle to find such just like you are struggling now because the reference you made is usually of a kid using the land line to call emergency services to save their parent.

As I have said repeatedly, it is lame to say a child needs a mobile phone since there will virtually ALWAYS be other options.

there aren't always other options. there are plenty of kids
with medical issues. kids who can come into an instant attack
and they need a mobile phone to reach out. attacks can happen at

Obviously you are the judge.
Obviously I cannot make that decision for you.
Obviously I can point out the folly of such opinion if you state it online.

folly in buying a £50 phone for my kid?

No, it is fear consumerism when you decide to buy something for safety that you will hardly ever need. Worse still when it will not prevent the danger you are irrationally scared of.

that's the modern world. why do people insure their lives n properties?
for instance, you have insurance on your car you pay monthly, have you ever
had to use it? has everyone ever had to use it and yet you pay gazillions on
insurance every year. i have been on aa since 2007, i have never called them once
to come tow my car or whatever. would that stop me from paying? hell nah!

You being in car reduces the risk drastically. A child in a car is far, far, far, less likely to have an accident than a child walking on the road and being hit by a vehicle.

i doubt it. a child in a car has the same chance of being hit by a drunk driver
with a child trekking on the side-walk. a child walking on the road is another
matter entirely. why should a child walk on the road? roads are meant for cars
not pedestrians.

Your child walking on the road and being hit is still far more likely than your child being in a situation they use a mobile to avoid danger. So if you are going to do something about the latter, don't you think as a responsible parent you should do something about the former? Are you not going to reduce the danger of the more pertinent risk (which can lead to death or disability of your child) to the bearest minimum?

it is not.....you only think it is cos you see danger as what affects that particular child only.
what about the danger that might affect the people around your child and his mobile phone would
save someone else's life. his phone isn't there to save himself alone....but to save others should
the need arises.

You still don't get it.

Kids using mobile phones and being distracted to the point they are hit by a car is a far higher possibility than a kid using mobile phone to avoid danger and save his life or injury to his self?

i have already told you. mobile phones are different from mobile phones.
my kid will not have instant messaging features, no camera, no music and no picture
messaging. it would be a basic phone. i fail to see how a phone as grotesque as nokia
3310 would distract my kid. in most cases, he would be embarrassed to bring it out in public.

So getting your child a mobile phone means you are increasing the possibility of harm to them. They are MORE likely statistically to face danger because they have a mobile phone than if they did not have a mobile phone.

keep telling yourself that....they would have something extra
as an insurance should they or anyone around them come near harm.
it is when the phones are upgraded to blackberry or androids that the
dangers are imminent. not with a basic phone that can only make calls or
send sms.

That is my point. A phone hardly reduced the danger, it most likely will just give you quicker time to react to the sorrow.
So buying a mobile phone for "safety" as you claim is more of fear consumerism as I explained above.
If you say you buy it to accelerate your reaction to unfortunate occurence your child experiences, then that would be more apt.

my reaction to unfortunate occurrence can save his life.
one minute can be the difference between life and death. it is still the same umbrella.
as long as a life is saved by whatever means, the purpose of giving him that phone has been achieved.
qed!!!

How does that prevent the danger?
Wehn Emergency services are reaching for phone in one's pocket, are they there to stop danger or to attend to the person that has already been harmed and incapacitated?

it depends on the danger.
with the phone, certain facts can quickly be reeled out by the parent.
my child is allergic to xyz, he's blood group xyz, phenotype xyz. it saves
few minutes if there's a need for transfusion or whatever information the parent can quickly
get across. in the medical world, prompt action saves lives!

Again look at my definition of fear consumerism above. See the second sentence.

i disagree......
as a parent, i know what it takes to send a child out by himself in this cruel
world where accidents n mishaps occur everytime. i would promptly want to know first hand
what has happened to my child by reaching him anytime i want.

debosky: ^^

It's a spoof site coogar.

Who in grundo is fred the red?

i just confirmed it's fake!
fredthered is my ears in what happens at old trafford!

debosky: http://www.rnanutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2012/May/manchester-united-seal-hazard-deal.aspx.htm

no fuckin way....debosky are you sure about this?
heard the guy was landing today to discuss at old trafford
before moving to man city if there's a deadlock in the talks.

lemme contact fredthered for more updates.

---------
it's a fake page made by liverpool fans according to fredthered.

Sagamite: That is the best you could do?
I thought you said you have several examples of kids using their mobile phones to call to save their mother's life?

busy at work....when i break free....i would scour the net for your delight.

I am saying the prevention you are recommending is virtually un-needed, an expensive venture, illogical for the aims and liable to create other significant challenges. I am using the other to prove to you that you will not even do half of that for a more risky possibility without looking like a freak.

let me be the judge of what is an expensive venture when my child is concerned.
unfortunately, you cannot make that decision for me or anyone but yourself.
some people think putting their kids on the bus is expensive, they can trek whilst
some people think putting their kids in maybach benz is the way to protect them.

Children facing accidents when crossing roads is a more pertinent danger, and yet you yourself would be rational and not overeact by saying your kids should not go out on the road. Despite your claim that if you can do anything to increase their safety by 1% you would. No you would not, if you can see the irrationality. The mobile phone for a child is pure fear consumerism. You can as well by a an Earthing heart for your child when it rains to the lightning does not harm them.

it's not fear consumerism. that's what today's world dictates. mobile phone
is for emergencies. a child could lose me in a crowded mall. what do i do as a parent?
call him, tell him to hold his position and i would find him there....rather than having
to go through the stress of getting the PA to make lousy announcements n blah blah blah.

too many reasons a child should have a phone. it's endless.

The way of removing the possibility of your child being hit by a car is to always be with them when they are out walking on the road or to make sure they are always in a car. You will not do that because you will be rational and see it as a silly suggestion and you will be willing to accept the risk. A risk which by the way is FAAAAR higher than they ending up in a situation they need a mobile to call you to save them. It is like a choice of betting between Brazil winning the 2018 WC and Mozambique winning the 2018 WC. The probabilities are worlds apart, yet you place a £100K bet on Mozambique winning the WC in 2018.

so me being in the car would prevent a driver high on 'caine to hit us
and maim everyone in the car? really? putting a child can only reduce the
risk, it does not completely nullify the risk in the same way as giving him
a phone does not nullify any danger that might occur but it can prevent some.

both goals is to reduce the danger to the barest minimum.....

A mobile phone is actually more likely to increase his chance of being hit by a car than him needing it for an "emergency" where the call will lead to you changing the dangerous outcome. So buying him a mobile phone actually means you are increasing the risk of harm to your child.

i am not. i am saving his life.
auto accident isn't the only potential danger on the streets.
with a phone, i can do a prompt check on the whereabouts of my child rather than
making wild guesses. you did not use a phone when growing up because there were no mobile fones.
if there were, your parents would have provided one for you to make sure you don't come into any harm.

Paramedics can ask a child for his name.
If he is unconcious, they will notify police and when you go and report him missing, police would tell you.

so i will bear the pain of waiting and searching all the police stations in my borough instead
of the luxury of placing a call to that child and getting the answer i need? thanx but no thanx.
i prefer the mobile.......lose a child in lagos and see how missing person's list would help you locate him.

A mobile phone does not help prevent nada in that situation, it just speeds up your time to react to the harm that has happened, not prevent it.

it does. when accidents happen, good samaritans or emergency services
reach for the pockets to search for a diary or a mobile phone so they
can alert the next of kin.....it's very very important!

dayokanu: Its the stats thats fishy

Robben with 18 starts made 53 key passes, Ribery with 50% more 27 starts made 68 passes

Something isnt right there

Punch me in the stomach, Your reach aint long enough .

dayokanu, you underrate robben's contribution on the pitch.
against chelsea, he copped 15 shots, 5 were on target.
14 crosses and 8 key passes. if someone was doing his
job as a striker, those 8 key passes were potentially 8 goal assists.

i will introduce you to a site where to cop these stats....but you will
have to pay me for opening your eyes into the world of punditry.
forget human perception - this site is the bomb!

dayokanu: How come someone was converting Kroos, Ribery and Mullers but not converting Robbens
How come someone was converting Kroos, Ribery and Mullers but not converting Robbens.

I fault this your stats. Can you provide the source. Robben made 53 key passes all season and he played about half of what Ribery played. Thats means either Ribery more than 68 key passes all season or something is just fishy

you're doubting my stats? i feel like punching you in the stomach.
robben made 53 key passes in the bundesliga alone....in spite of
his limited appearances. it means he's the talisman of bayern.

in the performance index compiled by opta stats, only ribery was better than him.

emmanuelco: nope i did not install it,please what can i do again?? the person has refused to change the dp so i won't see his pics

there's nothing you can do. save up, buy another device.
always endeavour to password your phone. people steal phones cos
they know nigerians(especially) rarely secure their phones.

get blackberry protect on your new device...it can track the gps of where
the phone is currently located. it does not guarantee you would ever get it
but at least, it gives you hope. when thieves know every blackberry device is
passworded, they would be discouraged to steal it.

Lexusgs430: The body of the question is using BBM without actually have an active BIS subscription

yes, you can use the bbm without bis.....bis = blackberry's internet service fuelled
by 3G. with a high speed wifi, the internet service is not needed until he leaves his house
where the wireless router is installed.

Sagamite: Which kids?

Show me one! Please.

With which phones?

With their mother or the home line? So how does that relate to kids having their own mobiles?

http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,740680,00.html

You think the kids that are hit by cars are not aware of dangers on the roads?

You think the ADULTS that are hit by cars are are not aware of dangers on the roads?

So when will you stop them from leaving the house without being in a car? When they are retired and in a coffin going to their burial site?

i don't get your point. so because the risk involved in letting a kid walk by
himself on the road is more than the probability of a child needing his phone
for emergency we should then ignore one for the other? both eventualities
should be catered for no matter how remote it looks.

So your child has FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR more chance of being hit by a car than needing a mobile phone "for emergencies". So are you telling me, as a parent that will not ignore any danger and that will give his child mobile phone "for emergencies", you will only allow them to go out when they are in a car until they are 21 years old? Don't tell me you will ignore the higher danger but cater for the remote, virtually impossible danger?

i don't get your drift here.....
how do i completely remove the possibility of my child getting hit by a car on the road?
isn't this the reason why he needs his mobile phone? you're making my point for me.
if he gets hit, paramedics would get there, see his mobile, place a call to the last
dialled number(which should be the child's parents) and update them what's gone wrong.

you've just made my point!

dayokanu: Which season and which competition were those stats you posted? Was it in all competition of handpicked ones?

Even with those stats you posted Robben still has the least assist/game ratio of those 3

He might get MOTM for his goal scoring but not for assist. Robbens biggest asset is not in making assist but actually scoring them.

I think 70% of people would say Robben is one of the top 3 selfish players in Europe. Aggregate his assist per game over the past 3 seasons at bayern and compare with other players even though kroos plays deeper, He still manages to cop more assist

Robben plays well and scores but assiting teammates aint his forte

Fact is Gomez with or without Robbery still scores bucjetloads for his clubsides

i disagree......robben is the talisman. that he did not have a high number of assists
must be because his team-mates are useless. the stats i posted were their number of
starts in the bundesliga this season.

i even found more to support robben's industry in bundesliga.

kroos - 1.9 key passes per league game, 59 key passes.
ribery - 2.1 key passes per league game, 68 key passes
robben - 2.2 key passes per league game, 53 key passes

someone refused to convert most of robben's key-passes into goals.
with the low number of appearances he copped due to injuries, he still
made more key passes per game than his mates.....and robben is selfish?

Sagamite: So would an airport in Obalende save Billionaire investors coming to Lagos 15 mins off their travel or even avoid them being robbed while driving on Ikorudu road.

Which kids have mobile phones saved their lives?

What proportion of kids with mobiles have needed the mobiles to save their lives?

plenty of them.....you would find a handful of stories about kids
dialling 911 to save their sick mum or save themselves on the internet
this is why you have google. if mobile phones have only saved a life of a child
since it's invention, then it's worth it!

No 1, it would be far lower than 1%.

No 2, your child is far more likely to be hit by a car than have an emergency where a mobile would help. So you would you ensure everytime your child leave the house, he is in a car to avoid being hit? Would you think it is rational if any parent had that policy? Would you say it can not be ignored?

of course, everytime he leaves the house, he must be in a car until
i am sure he is aware of the dangers walking on the road. every child
needs a mobile so he can reach and so he can be reached.

Yet, having your kid not walking the street and always in a car when out will have a higher percentage possibility of saving their life than a having a mobile phone "for emergencies" that is likely never to occur than lightning striking them. The mobile phone might even be the item that would distract them and cause them to be hit by a car.In th UK, 107 children were killed and more than 5000 seriously injured each year as they crossed the road.

yes, because many of them don't look before they leap.
they chase balls, objects, pets, bikes and cross and get hit......it did not say all the
107 kids got hit by a car because they were using their mobile phones.

dayokanu: Does Robben look like a player who makes assist to you?

Everyone knows Robbens instinct is to first shoot before thiking of assist

In the last 3 seasons Robben has 31 assists for Bayern, while in the same time Thomas Muller had 55 assists almost double.

Toni Kroos who has only played 2 seasons at Bayern has 27 assists

So how can the selfish Robben be the one assisting? Can you count how many times he blasted the ball into row Z?

don't let sentiments get in the way of facts.

ribery - 12 assists in 27 starts
kroos - 9 assists in 27 starts
robben - 5 assists in 18 starts

we can assume robben's injuries did some harm.....
however, he won 5 man of the match awards in the bundesliga, as many
as mario gomez and only ribery won more(6). in spite of robben's injury
he's bayern's 2nd best performer in the season. abeg, give him his credits.

Sagamite: I think it is more akin to building a local-airport in Obalende so people can fly from Ikeja there to get to VI. Hence Western Billionaire investors can get to VI faster and avoid the traffic.
It is virtually un-needed, an expensive venture, illogical for the aims and liable to create other significant challenges.

if it's unneeded, the government would have prohibited it.
mobile phones have saved the lives of kids.....

Sagamite: And there would not be other adults there to see the car and call 911?
The possibility of that scenario is so remote, I am sure it would be close to the possibility of lighting striking the child.

1% possibility to save the lives of children will not be ignored!
yes, some foolish kids would abuse the mobile phone and send obscene pics here and there....
this is why a basic phone that can only send texts and receive calls was suggested.
the parents buying smartphones for their kids have themselves to blame. if i buy a nokia 3310
for my child, he has no chance in hell to see pictures on it.

davidylan: So kidnappers wait for the kid to finish his/her SOS call before springing into action?

depends on the situation....a kid watching another kid
getting abducted can quickly dial 911, describe the kidnapper
and his car to the cops and it would aid the capture of the culprit.

it's not 100% safe but it's better than having nothing at all to reach out.

davidylan: All the people saying their kids need cell phones "in case of emergency"... where there no "emergencies in 1988? How did you survive without a cell phone?

this is akin to you people should no longer travel via
planes. before the airplane was invented, people trekked.
many trekked from nigeria to saudi arabia for pilgrimage.

of course, the more advanced we get, the more advanced the
danger is as well. criminals/kidnappers/pedos/etc use mobile
phones to track kids to steal, it's only fair for parents to also
arm the kids with mobile fones to prevent danger.

stunt89: Pls, Is it possible to ping with BBM over wifi without having Bis data plan.

it's very possible. it's what i do when i am @ home!
wifi is loads faster than 3G...i have even been told
some network carriers in america are already doing
wifi-calling from their devices.