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debosky:
@ 4uller the problem is DEFINITELY money.

Yes Wenger might appear to be losing his touch, but I don’t think any other manager bar Sir Alex can get as much out of the bunch of players we have at the moment. Wenger has flaws but was not crazy when he said losing Nasri and Cesc would make us unable to compete.

Clubs attempt to improve their squads year on year, to my mind we’ve only strengthened our squad year on year once or twice in 7 years. You can’t do that and expect success.

i don't believe money is the reason arsenal are where they are @ the moment. . . .wenger still spent £53m in the summer.
my arithmetic tells me he could have brought in demba ba, brad friedel, ryan shawcross, scott parker, robert huth, scott sinclair, ben arfa, yohan cabaye, cheihk tiote, etc in the last 12 months.

no one is asking wenger to spend £300m like man city - but he has obviously misspent the little he's got.
it's a travesty that alan pardew buys quality french players than arsene wenger these days. what is wrong with le prof?
money wasn't the reason arsenal lost to birmingam in the cup final last year. had arsenal won that trophy, the pressure on the players would have eased.

StarBoard:
Leave the hypocrite jare.
He likes proving he's smart but exposes his idiocy with lousy, village-square analysis type of statements.
The same Arsenal are several points below United on the league table, and have been beaten twice already by United,Conceeding ten goals to the same side he claims they have done better than this season.
Please ignore the ninny.

debsoky is just trying to save a wrecked boat - cut him some slack!

his claim that arsenal went a round further in this competition is valid but i doubt arsenal made more money than united even with that.
united were involved in 2 ties of the competition. against liverpool and against man city.
united would have made more money featuring in those ties than whatever arsenal would have made because of the image rights involved in the number of tv channels the fa would have sold those matches too local/foreign.

debosky:
Bros coded na oversabi people dey vex me - where did I say I preferred making money to winning? That is Dudu not me - if some folk need to go to specsavers, I can give them discount vouchers.

I was asked a direct question and I answered it - nothing more.

duduface needs brainsavers. . . .specsavers can only cure the littlest of duduface's brains.

debosky:
I wonder if Dudu's 0.99999 (according to 4uller) share holding has appreciated on the back of this result.

As for those saying 'starting Ox would've changed things and benching Walcott would've changed things' I hope y'all have gotten what you wanted today.

Again Vermaelen was abysmal today - Larsson outran him despite TV having a head start to shoot leading to the second goal. If it was Denilson or someone else, folk here would be calling for him to be sold.

Y'all saying 8 years without a trophy are jokers - according to Wenger, CL qualification is a trophy so in essence Arsenal has not been without a trophy for 15 years running.

Very soon Dudu will tell us running a club sustainably is a trophy (also called 'target' by Dudu ) so we've been winning trophies continuously for even longer.
In fact, every season we've been in the CL and been 'sustainable' have been double winning years.

dudu's hexagonal-shaped head is the reason he speaks like a troglodyte.
running a club sustainably is a trophy? on which planet?

it's even a shame these days as alan pardew gets better french players on bargain than arsene wenger.

medjai:
Stonking strike by dive Maria. What a goal!

medjal, did ronaldo score from a pen again tonight?

give credits where it's due. . .
ronaldo has conquered la liga in a way no foreigner has done in the history of the league.

[quote author=dipo+ link=topic=810639.msg10226560#msg10226560 date=1329596761]Why e dey pain u like this? I see say e dey pain u pass gunners sef. Sorry o[/quote]i'd confess. . . . . .i am a closet gooner.
all my shakara since i joined this forum is just a facade.

i have always been an arsenal fan.
i hope y'all would forgive me.

dayokanu:
Honest mistake, Yet they cant make another "honest mistake" for Nasri

Headline misleading?

very misleading.
your link says arsenal are receiving £15m in one fell swoop. . .the initial payment is £15m.

Those stoopid links you posted there, what exactly do they prove?

they prove arsenal paid £15.8m for samir nasri.
unless you are a dork, £15.8m is much higher than £15m that you claim is a record transfer for the gooners.

i doubt u have ever made £800,000(the difference between the fees paid for nasri and arshavin) since you started working 20 yrs ago.

ritchboy:
I look at my bank statement!

bank statement which would show you are in red?

i feel like weeping for ritchboy.
how do people cope with this empty promises and broken dreams?

like how many times would wenger's face suffer acid bath if he is a boyfriend to a chic and he keeps breaking her heart this way?
ahn ahn - 8 years since arsenal won the league title. 8 freaking years despite charging the highest fees in the whole of europe.

dayokanu:
The link you gave us says Reyes was for 13m
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/arsenal-transfers.html

it could be a honest mistake from the website and it could also be because the deal was renegotiated.
the fee could be up to £17m depending on add-ons, appearances, etc and arsenal only won the fa cup and the community shield after reyes joined.
but the original deal was £17m which arsenal had agreed to pay. it's up to different media to choose which one to pen down.

some media would tell you walcott was worth £12m but arsenal eventually paid £10.5m for him cos his deal got renegotiated later.

[size=18pt]Arshavin finally signs for Arsenal for club record fee[/size]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/feb/03/andrei-arshavin-joins-arsenal-record-deal

Let me watch you discredit Guardian now

the headline is misleading. . . .
record deal for the initial amount received. . . .not a record deal as the whole contract package.
how can £15m be the highest transfer @ arsenal when i can prove this. . .

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jul/03/arsenal-cesc-fabregas-samir-nasri
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/nasri-training-at-city-is-level-above-arsenal-2346401.html

dayokanu:
Are you ashamed to tell us who man Utd is playing in the Champions league ?

ajax fc!
4 times winner!


but tell us why it's been difficult for bayern?
1 final in 10 seasons. nigga, i can't divide.

2011
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dayokanu:
You now say 17m

Then why did you bring a link that says 13m? Were you having fits at that time?

When you said 20m were you high on your own body odour at that time??

which link says it's £13m?
are you a tool?

as you can see, i am not whipping out links from cnn or al jazeera.
i am whipping out facts from guardian, independent and telegraph.
the gurus of the game.

ritchboy:
Hehehe, what a joke!!!

Make I go watch Ghost Protocol

ritchboy, how do you sleep at night?

dayokanu:
Your link said 13m,
You said 17m
You also said 20m

i never said £13m.
quote me where i said it was £13m. . . .
if i mentioned £13m, wouldn't that have defeated the purpose of the debate that arshavin isn't arsenal's record acquisition?

i only mentioned it to be £20m
the media believed the deal was worth £20m in 2004

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/2371999/Arsenal-raise-the-title-stakes-with-20m-Reyes-deal.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2004/jan/28/newsstory.arsenal
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/sport/article-8688414-20m-arsenal-bid-for-reyes.do

So which one is which or should we take the average of the 3 figures?
Ibime the mathematician should we take the mean, mode, median, Variance or Standard deviation or Range to find which is which?


13m, 17m or 20m which should we take?

it's £17m. and the last time i checked, £17m is higher than £15m paid for arshavin.
so i ask again, which tool like yourself lied to you arshavin is a record buy for arsenal?

dayo, i would continue to educate you on football matters. . . .until you graduate.
you have been at it for 12 years now - and normal students don't spend more than 4 yrs to graduate.

you have the same failure rate as arsene wenger.
8 yrs of persistent failure.

dayokanu:
^^ WHom are you playing in the champions league?

we got bored of playing in the final almost every season. . . .
3 finals in the last 4 seasons? please - it's boring.

in other news, bayern have only played once in the last 10 seasons.

dayokanu:
Bros the same link you gave us showed that Reyes is 13m

Its either you are lying and have no credibility or your link has no credibility(including the Nasri figure)

you are a fool.
what link has no credibility?
i can give you 200 links that prove reyes was bought for £17m

i can also show u 300 links that prove nasri was bought for £15.8m

these 2 figures are higher than the £15m paid for arshavin(dayokanu's arsenal transfer record).
http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2012/01/17/home-is-where-the-heart-is-as-jose-antonio-reyes-returns-to-sevilla/
http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/69/transfer-zone/2012/01/18/2853241/fernando-torres-andy-carroll-and-the-10-worst-january

dayokanu, i ask again. . . .is jose antonio reyes' fees higher than arshavin's?

Ibime:
Sessegnon is fed scraps and Torres is fed scraps.

Difference between a good player and a dud.

Sessegnon >>>>>> Torres

you are a fool. . . .
sessegnon still get better scraps fed to him. he has seb larsson, mcclean and richardson to count on.
torres has no one.

it has to be a shame if sunderland are better @ counter-attacks than chelsea.
ibime, abeg when was the last time your team scored from a counter?
can you remember?

dayokanu:
FT 0-0

That was a shameful display

bayern munich - the most useless team bar arsenal.

Ibime:
Dudu,

How much cash did Arsenal just make from the Sunderland defeat? 

£40 million!
it's part of the plan. sustainability is the key word.
wenger has this figured out already. the key is the youth policy and maintain position in the top four.

if there's a more deluded goat than duduspace on planet earth, someone should notify me.

ritchboy:
Hernandez scored from being isolated with the last defender by a quick pass on the counter?

P.S. Coogar argued Nasri was signed for 16m and provided this link: http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/arsenal-transfers.html

He also argued Reyes was bought for 17m but on that same page Reyes' transfer fee is 13m while Nasri is actually 15.8m.

Talk about shooting oneself in the scrotum!

what is the difference between 15.8m and 16m? are you such a tool?
which of these amounts is not higher than what arsenal paid for arshavin - dayokanu's club record transfer?

then for reyes -http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1116342/RECORD-BREAKERS-Club-club-guide-Premier-Leagues-signings.html
antonio reyes was copped for £17m. some papers even thought it was up to £20m in 2004 january, when reyes was acquired.

ritchboy:
In less than an hour, Coogar told us Arsenal paid 13m, 17m, and 20m for Reyes!!!

£17m is higher than what wenger paid for arshavin.
dayo told us arshavin is the highest transfer fee for arsenal? in my head, i could count nasri and reyes were much higher.
so what do you have to say? agree i am correct or ball-suck dayokanu(germany's biggest guffanti).

fredoooooo:
and you expect monsieur wenger to pay such amount on a player ? he can manage a whole team with that amount  

i am sure he would be available for £8m.
the guy has to be the most hardworking forward player in england.


martin o'neill is another hard bastard. . . .his teams are always difficult to beat.
he winds them up to die on the pitch for him.

what a victory for sunderland.
arsenal - the disintegration is complete. first at milan, now at the stadium of light.

it's the same annual rituals every season.

arsenal fans running home again before the end of the match?
what sorta fans is this?

stephane sessegnon is such a good player.
jeeeez - his pace is worth £30m.

never knew john o'shea is this solid as a centre back.
he was useless for united in many games.

can we have our john back, please?

2-0

sessegnon ruins arsenal

what a counter attack

oxdale chamberlain scores against his own team.

[quote author=Kay-Dee link=topic=873776.msg10225832#msg10225832 date=1329590595]**yawns** I think I'll just end my season at this point.  

EXIT >>>[/quote]why?

arsenal can still win the league, mathematically!
they are still in europe and they have 20 mins to get an equalizer.

arsenal can still do the treble.

stefan sessegnon is the most hardworking forward in the league.
he's fed scraps and he tries to make something out of it.
wenger should pay for his services.

Moodie:
'ol boy, see sunderland pressing, like say them dey warfront.

they copied it from pep guardiola.
sunderland are pressing arsenal all over the pitch. . . .arsenal making elementary mistakes.

ritchboy:
Una get time to dey argue with Coogar?

For Torres to flourish, he needs to be released by a quick pass and isolated with the last defender on the counter-attack. . . Sounds like he should be playing 5-a-side cos this scenario won't occur enough times in Association Football for him to be anything north of useless.

explain how hernandez scored 20 goals in this league last season by playing on the shoulder of the last man?
how did torres score 33 goals in the same league in 07/08?

ritchboy - have you joined the posse of mental handicaps?

afrodoc:
coogar i thot u would never ask,since u dont want to go to school let me school u  
Dalton's atomic theory in case u didnt know has a number of postulates.
1st postulate is dt "matter is made up of small,INDIVISIBLE particles named atoms".well nuclear fission is an exception to this
anoda postulate is dt "all atoms of d same element r exactly alike in ALL respects n differ from atoms of other elements.dear coogar isotopes exist as an exception to this postulate. i could go on n on even abt other theories but i am frying plantain at d moment,mi ofe kojo.care to join me  

you are a big olodo!

as at the time of the first postulate, dalton himself did not know atoms could be split.
then a new atomic theory called the modern atomic theory was made but the essence of dalton's theory is still valid.
it's not like dalton said atoms are not indivisible except via nuclear fission.

can you now see you're the olodo?

Hardunnii:
toress is a one way traffic, hes a useles player, maybe he shud just go back to liverpool since thats d only place he can perform

exactly!

why did chelsea pay £50m for him when they know he's useless and a one-way traffic.
he's as one way traffic as saha, inzaghi, ruud, chicharito, etc.
we know how to make chicharito score goals by counterattacking - chelsea cannot make torres score for them.

it's a disgrace to the club, not the player.
chelsea knew what they were getting when they signed torres.
torres will not change his style for chelsea. chelsea the buyer of a £50m merchandise should change their style for torres.

afrodoc:
like i said, GO BACK TO SCHOOL!
theories do have exceptions,dont solidify ur olodo status.its still a hypothesis on NL,dont let it stand d test of time  
dont b farcical abt yekini,he wasnt 41 n neither was he 19.r those d only ages u know?

no - you should go back to school.
tell me the exception in the atomic theory.
please do not ignore this question and do not use phcn as your excuse for not coming back to reply this post.

Hardunnii:
he even scored 4 against liverpool at anfield

torres scored 12 goals against chelsea while at liverpool. jose mourinho's mean chelsea defence was inclusive.
which football team has torres not harassed in the league? is it vidic or terry or carvalho or kolo toure or which defence?

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torres debut goal for liverpool was against chelsea. . . . he sodomized an in form petr cech and the whole chelsea defence.
see the quickness of gerrard's pass to him. . . .quickly isolating torres with the last man.

afrodoc:
coogar go back to school.
1)theories have exceptions,i see u didnt address that

theories don't have exceptions. . . .stop dragging your honourable name in the mud for effing sake.

2)rashidi wasnt 41 yrs old when he was banging in goals for nigeria

how old was he then? 19?

3)d few names of aged players u hav brought is d exception,d norm is for player's performances to drop afta 30.how many 30 something year olds hav won fifa player of d year awards and how many 20something year olds hav won d same award?

who is comparing 30 yr olds and 20 yr olds?
i am saying players have different trajectories in their developments and you are doing compare and contrast. . . .don't you get it?
who can say for certain a player would peak at certain age and then go under the water after a certain age? do you know?

dayokanu:
This guy is sillier than I initially thought. Show us a link for Nasris transfer fee or is this the gist running round palmwine joints in Ekiti?

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/arsenal-transfers.html
bookmark that page, you would need it in subsequent debates instead of relying on cnn who did not even confirm the actual transfer fee.
they said it would be a world record if arsenal paid a certain amount for his signature. . . .dayokanu as a semi-illiterate just whipped out the link to save his blushes.

In 2009, After his transfer, Arshavin had 6 goals and 8 assists in 12 games

6 goals + 8 assists is greater than 33 goals.