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debosky:
At the time we signed the Emirates deal we were ruling the roost with our invincibles. Clearly our negotiating position is much weaker with our underwhelming performances.

If past experience is the best indicator of future success, Chelski should still be waiting for their first title in 60 years, not winning three of the last 7.

Like I said previously, you've completely become deluded. The cash we have is because we could attract big crowds due to previous success. Simple logic tells you that if you stop offering a chance of success, that appeal will wane.

To trumpet the financial success while naively downplaying trophies as 'emotional' tells me all I need to know.

Wenger has no lifetime claim to the job. If he is unable to adapt to the demands he should step aside. His contributions will never be forgotten, but there comes a time when you start getting judged on PRESENT performance on the pitch, not the past.

I have also told you that the current board bares little/no resemblance to the board that laid the foundations for what we have now.

Edelman, Fiszman, Dein, Bracewell-Smith are no longer with the board. Things have changed but you fail to realise the need for change.

duduspace:
A lobotomized babboon can construct a more cogent argument. Are you for once implying that 7.5 million in 1995 adjusted for inflation in 2012 = 50m?
Seriously, Its not worth discussing, got better things to do at present than to educate a recalcitrant doofus.

duduspace:
Crass idiocy on display, I leave the lying to you amigo. If I'm not mistaken Newcastle had the highest transfer fee on Papis Cisse in the last January window. Does that put them into the current top 4 in terms of financial value? and when Robert Green and Paul Robinson were England's number 1, did they play for top 4 clubs?  

What happened to the glory days when City used to be behind Manure in the PL?

duduspace:
This is an appraisal not backed up by any fact, evidence or history, just some kinda eloquent mumbojumbo of a fan who wants his club to win at all costs and while that is not necessarily a bad thing it doesn't make it right either.  

Before the arrival of this now idealistic manager Arsenal was a club you wouldn't put in the top 4 in terms of financial value in the UK, it has since grown to become the 2nd most valuable club in the land under the stewardship of a board that found the right manager for the club. Yes, with time the competitive environment has changed and there has been an influx of money leading to a season of drought but through all these Arsenal the club has kept its head above water grown its earnings, built a stadium, developed a productive youth system and stayed competitive while sticking to its principles of sustainability.

Let us critically examine the evidence free of emotional pain at not winning trophies, you say we have money but did this money just fall into our lap from some Benefactor like Chelsea? or did it come about by prudent and sustainable management? would such an amount of money have been available if for example we bought Fernando Torres for 50m last year or Andy Carroll for 35m? I am proud that this club has been well managed to such an extent that we can even talk of the availability of money when others are going cap in hand to Abu Dhabi and Russia to fund expenditure on players.

There is a lot I am not happy about at Arsenal and you're right that there is still so much more to do but while we always seek for excellence and are quite entitled to build our castles in the air, let us not forget that we live in a real world governed by the laws of economics. Human needs are unlimited but our resources limited. I am quite satisfied that Arsene has managed the resources he has to generate as close to optimal returns as you could have in this present time. Obviously, the board shares that same view which is why he hasn't been sacked yet. That is why I've put my money into Arsenal both as a fan and as an investor and will continue to do so in the near future. I love and believe in this club and its future and I see no reason at present to change my opinion.

duduspace:
No, he chose Arsenal over Dag & Red against his father's advice and yes Fergie didn't want to keep Morrison, infact he so much wanted to get rid of him that he paid West Ham 1m to take him off his hands and told Rio Ferdinand to 'not' publicly express his displeasure at the boy's choice to leave Manure.
Also he is not the best youth talent to come out of Manure's academy since Paul Scholes and didn't win the FA Youth cup for Manure and isn't better than Gibbs and Wilshere combined into the same player and so on and so forth.

How far back do you want to go in your lunatic attempt at changing the past and eating your own vomit? 

duduspace:
Firstly, please give an example of the bolded.
And supply evidence on all this pub/beer parlour talk. You can accuse me of many things but you can't say I don't give evidence of what I say.
You mention Smalling and Jones but quietly omit Oxlade Chamberlain who chose us over Manure.
You also conveniently omit Coogar's favorite son who Manure wanted to keep but now wears West Ham colours.
I have also always said that Arsenal have cash and IMO will spend in the summer. However, I will still sound a note of caution that I still don't see us spending anything beyond say 35 - 40m and it will not be because we were beaten 4 - 0 at the San Siro rather it will be the normally expected financial expenditure to make improvements in playing staff that the club has been unable to make in the recent past due to financial constraints.

dayokanu:
How was the trip to Backwater Europe last night.   

Did your earnings for the win cover your Okada and danfo expenses? 

I heard some Ajax fans even wanted to beat your fans in Holland

You know when Butter boys go to Pako school, the Big pako boys go first beat am. Anyway Welcome to Hell

dayokanu:
Mr coogar,
How many points/ wins did Chelsea rake in when Lampard was out of the team this year vs How many points did they get when he played

Adetayo100:
@ Coogar u must be an ediot for calling me names, can't u make ur point without using insultive words who cares if you live 3 inches away from london.  How many matches has Torres won for us with or without Lampard for over a year now

StarBoard:
coogar,
I'd like to disagree with you.
I'd rather say Torres has proven unreliable with the few chances he's had.Truth is; he hasn't convinced anyone he is confident enough to stick the ball in at any opportunity he gets.
But back to the Lampard thing,I'm not so sure it's about penalties.This season, Frank Lampard has done more to get in the box than Torres himself.That's why he has more goals in my view.
His powers are definitely on the wane,but he has saved Chelsea's blushes this season,turning draws to wins and losses to draws.
He more than anyone on that side does that.
As for playing to the strength of strikers,Daniel Sturridge for whatever reason has had his own fair share of goals. So something is missing;might be a tactical flaw from AVB. . .so you might have a point about not playing to the strenngth of strikers; but Torres can't use that as a leeway in my view.

StarBoard:
@coogar,
As much as my teeth are too gritted to say it,dayokanu brings up a point about Spain.
If Torres cannot thrive there, there's no need to make any argument about him.
He might as well prove me wrong by sinking Birmingham tomorrow with four goals,but I'm not impressed by his performance since he moved to Chelsea.

BlueDiva:
Why does anyone bother arguing with coogar?
He knows the truth, he just enjoys playing devils advocate.

Everybody know FT is finished both for club and country.
Also, AVB is clueless in man management. Those are the two major problems we have.

A manager who knows what he is doing will bring out the best in Lukaku. That guy has potentials.
He is far better than the dud we use upfront.
Play DS as a CF and he will slam in goals like he did at Bolton.

debosky:
Glad to know Walcott is as useless as Nani/Valencia on the wing.

duduspace:
what business of yours is it? how exactly does it prevent you from brushing your stinking mouth in the morning?

StarBoard:
This "Stoke at the Britannia on a wet Thursday"thing:
Well it wasn't wet,so one criteria was missing!

Anyway,I'm guessing that phrase shouldn't be taken word-for-word.
Everyone knows the Brittania is one of the hardest places to get a result.They up their game when the big teams come there.Example-United, Chelsea and Liverpool haven't managed a win there this season.
I'm not saying Barcelona won't win there,but it's going to be difficult for them to get any kind of result there.Hence the phrase.
That Valencia won there shouldn't mean that statement has no value.

Adetayo100:
Coogar should cut Lampard some slack and stop spewing rubbish here, i am tired of reading his analysis about Chelsea especially Lampard and Torres, worst he's not a Chelsea fan i bet he does'nt even see our games because if he does he will know that with or without Lampard, Chelsea is a useless team at the moment thanks to AVB. Fact Lampard scored the winning goal in the last 2 league game we won against Wolves and Sunderland. Why does coogar see thing differently from every one on this thread?

diggz:
Coogar go always dey yan dust! Lampard can't play for chelsea burr,giggs and scholes even in their grave can still play for ManU. Fact is,we hv old legs in chelsea and most teams hv their quota even d so called world best team Barca burr dey are still competitive. The only excuse I hv for our present situation is MR AVB and Failure FT(coogars mama pikin). Or how else can we explain is unthinkable support for FT? Back to AVB,Man management skill he obviously left in FC Porto. D pipe left d likes of malouda,PF,Bosingwa and sold alex & anelka,just to buy Useless Cahill to warm bench. Will always play players in d useless of position and,giv us inspirational speeches @ d end of each bleep up. Walahi,every1 shud simply ignore coogar aspa FT and Lampard dat is d only way to stop d obvious madness.

StarBoard:
But wait. . .
How come Lampard is one of the top scorers for Chelsea this season?
Surely the problem isn't with Lampard,is it?
Just asking because it doesn't make sense to me to blame someone who is producing at a certain level,while others are doing absolutely next to nothing

Mobinga:
This thread is a cancer.

duduspace:
We don't have a choice right now, Arsenal went long when everyone else decided to go short and have ridden out the storm so far, it would be waving a white flag to suddenly change now. I also don't see it changing now since Kroenke was always part of the board he was in on it and must have given assurances he would pursue the same policy to get Fitzman's shares.
Even if the revenues dwindle in the short term we'll make up for it at some point when income from commercial sources improves or until Kroenke decides he's had enough of penny pinching (whichever comes first).
By the way,  I back that policy (as you know, I now have vested interests and can't be totally impartial  ). If Arsenal's position is going to improve in the long term, its either

a. We give up on self sustainability and go down the Sugar daddy route.
or
b. FFP changes the competition landscape and brings wages under control so we can keep our talents long enough to reap what we've sown.

I'd personally prefer B. to A. for obvious selfish reasons and for the soul of football itself as well.

dayokanu:
You are really daft

dayokanu:
Where is Sharon and all his yammering about this cold night in Brittania?
Didnt valencia just shyytt all over Brittania?

medjai:
Damn it! Your Jabulani fingers beat me to it.

Second string Valencia side - No Alves, Banega, Ruiz, Alba. Soldado and Miguel didn't start.
I hope this eternally confines this cold, wet, windy night Stoke myth to the ancestral depths of the trash can.

BlueDiva:
So nice to win a 'division 2' game.

Ibime:
If you werent being intentionally facetious, there would be no need to even respond to your stupidness.

Bosingwa takes a poor throw intended for Meireles, doesnt reach him, Lampard leaves his marker to come across and help out, although he even has no right to be there, hits the ball against Cahill and the ball drops fortuitously to Pieenar. Meanwhile Josephine Bosingwa who cocked up the throw still fails to keep with Pieenar from start to finish, yet an eediot like Coogar still comes here to point fingers at Lamps.


Pray tell, how well did the team do in Lamps absence. I heard Torres scored 5 hattricks whilst Mata made 15 assists.

dayokanu:
As at January 1 Chelsea was leading Arsenal on the table

This year in 5 games Chelsea has 6 points. The only win in the last 5 games was via a Lamaprd goal

This year in 5 games Arsenal 7 points

The last time failure Torres scored was September 20 if I am not mistakened

Ibime:
Make una leave Coogar. Where did Lampard assist Pieenar? - another twisted ploy from the mind of Coogar much like Nateevs fantasy about Nani's second goal at OT.

Emperoh:
Won't it be nice to share the handles of popular footballers or our Man U players
so we can always follow them

dayokanu:
In the EPL

This year Chelsea has played 2 games with Lampard and have 3 points 1.5 points per game (Sunderland and Everton)

This year Chelsea has played 3 games and claimed 3 points 1 point per game (Swansea, Norwich and Man Utd)

We can see which one is more productive

With Lampard or without lampard.

Suffice to say Drogba left and Since Torres has been starting Chelsea has won 1 game out of 5 EPL gamesand Mr Torres has scored a whooping zero goals.

tkb417:
starboard and Debosky still dey fight
on our thread i already mentioned that the account is a parody account

same way someone opened an account with Wole Soyinkas name and in few days he had thousands of followers

1) The handle isnt verified and there is no footballer on planet earth that has an unverified account

2) 20k followers? when Adebayor that started just last week has close to a million?

dayokanu:
^^ Since this year, How many games has Lampard played.

And how many did Chelsea win in those games where Lampard was absent

How wont they lose when Torres is loafing around the field

tkb417:
the account isnt verified and oh yeah, that isnt the eboue that played in arsenal
No thats not Emmanuel Eboue

duduspace:
If that is the real Eboue then coogar really lives in the jungle.  
Quite a funny chap though.

naijasexy:
^^^ It was once seen as "socially-unacceptable" and it only became acceptable half a decade ago. if you didn't know, now you know. I am not of the opinion that cycling shorts are an appropriate substitute for panties but there is nothing wrong when worn atop panties. shikena.

Ibime:
For all those saying player power this and that, simple fact: AVB is a poor politician and a poor man manager. He has no redeeming qualities cos his tactics and substitutions on the pitch are just as dire as his man management off it.

He went from saying he would create "philosophy" and "strategy" to having no strategy, no style of play and no identity on the pitch.