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Emusan:
Whatever can't change the fact that "Children are the Heritage of the Lord and the fruit of the womb is His rewards" PS 127:3

That doesn't stop God from destroying babies again together with their parents

AllenSpencer:
Meaning we all on Earth can NEVER be saved since we don't have direct contact.

From the Bible, Jesus use of words and his statement, clearly shows he was referring to a superior being.

Even as at crucifixion, in the face of death and pains, he still called on his father. Was he also referring to himself at that point?


Matthew 26:39

And He went a little beyond them, and fell on His face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; yet not as I will, but as You will.”


Did he bow to himself and same time called himself father? These are simple English that can easily be decoded and interpreted.

Hahahaha Trinitarians will never agree with you. I don't know what was done to their brain

Janosky:
LIAR confusing himself.

The God is a spirit, said Jesus Christ. John 4:24.

Is the God , angels and Jesus spirits?
Yes. 1 Corinthians 15:45 NLT.
Hosea 12:3-4, Psalms 8:5 angels called God.
Therefore, God himself, angels and Jesus, ALL of them possess the nature of spirits, the nature of spirits is the nature of God.
Simple.

Absolutely ✅

Emusan:
You go explain tired, no evidence

All because you want to defend someone error over God's word.

Just single verse is what is taking you the long epistle.

To whom this epistle is directed?

Whatever

Emusan:
Show me where I did the same.

Ps 127:3 "Children are the Heritage of the Lord and the fruit of the Womb is His rewards"

Can you quote any verse where children are said to be God's enemies?

Both the wicked and the good right from the time of Adam till today give birth to children. Our life, free will, ability to procreate, the rain, the sun are all gifts or reward from God for everyone whether good or bad.

No where did the Bible say babies are God's innocent or righteous or God's friends.

God destroyed babies along with their evil parents during the flood, when Amalek and Sodom was destroyed.
He didn't spare them. That definitely means that God didn't see those babies as innocent or his friends.

We all are sinners and God's enemies from birth untill we grow up and prove to be God's friends.
Ciao!

Dtruthspeaker:
See jw speaking with reservation on the matter

Jude expressly shows that Arc Michael is less than Jesus.

But when the archangel Michael contended with the Devil and disputed about the body of Moses, he did not dare to bring a condemnation of slander against him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!" (Jude 9).

And Who is The Lord?

Jesus is The Lord!

Michael is obviously not the Lord. He could not rebuke the Devil on his own, but rather called upon the Lord to rebuke him. Jesus has no such problem with the Devil - He personally rebuked him, since He is the Lord.

Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you, Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.' " Then the Devil left Him, and behold, angels came and began to minister to Him (Matthew 4:10,11).

And in John 8. Jesus directly calls Satan a Liar thereby bringing a condemnation of slander on Satan. What Arc Michael could not do.

John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

The LORD in both verses Jude 9 and Mathew 4:10 you presented refers to Jehovah not Jesus.
Jesus doesn't have his own authority.
There are similarities and connection between Jesus and Michael throughout the Bible.

It's not my fault that KJV and some translations replaced God's name "Yahweh /Jehovah" to "LORD".

Emusan:
Good

But never force your belief on the true God and his word again.

I'd advise you not to do the same

MaxInDHouse:
He has become an atheist just as all apostates when they can't prove God's organization false the next thing is to attack the Bible but they will disguise for foolish and misinformed churchgoers to see them as friends.

What is difficult in answering that simple question?

Well he's dodging but he can't be smarter than Jehovah's servants.

The answer is simple:

All those destroyed outside Noah's Ark are God's enemies whether 800 years old, a day old or fetus in the womb!

Exactly Sir.
If you examine his post well, you'd surely see that he's an atheist who doesn't take the Bible or Jehovah serious.

MaxInDHouse:
Out of desperation to prove smart you've displayed your foolishness again.

Who is talking about going to people that believe the Bible?

Is it not through our preaching and teaching that people can believe (trust) the Bible? Romans 10:13-15

Guy it's enough of this your madness if you can't answer a simple question just keep quiet.

The question again this time no story just go straight to the answer:

Are people destroyed outside Noah's Ark God's friends or enemies?

If é answer make I bend

Emusan:
And your last word still no hold any water.



But Bible says "CHILDREN ARE GOD'S HERITAGE AND THE FRUIT OF WOMB IS GOD'S REWARDS"

Well ALL JWS CHILDREN are God's enemies just tell your lying 8 old men that not ALL CHILDREN ARE GOD'S ENEMIES.

MINE are God's heritage and a rewards.



If not because you're an idiot (yes I can boldly say this) if no verse says Babies are God's enemies or God's friends, why are you trying to force "BABIES ARE JEHOVAH ENEMIES" INTO BIBLE?

You've been argued as if you know where God outrightly declared Babies to be His enemies.

There's a verse where God declared Children as His Heritage and rewards yet you have to defend GB just because the say WHAT IS NOT IN THE BIBLE. ISN'T THAT FOOLISHNESS?



At least you agreed that "NO VERSE SAYS BABIES ARE GOD'S ENEMIES".

Any reason you do outside that is YOUR INTERPRETATION NOT GOD'S WORD and you're not wiser than God who never made such statement.

God's word is clear, "CHILDREN ARE GOD'S HERITAGE AND THE FRUIT OF WOMB IS HIS REWARDS".

I'm praying that you'll be alive when New Light will come from your gods so that you can see how foolish you are that you once defend this obvious lie against God's word.

Lol

Emusan:
Just say yes so that all of us won't say anything again.

Your religious leaders say "YOUR BABY(BABIES) IS/ARE ENEMY/ENEMIES OF GOD, do you agree?

That's what I believe.

achorladey:
What your thinking outside the box brain should have dealth with is the below right from the start......

For my thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts

Let your thinking outside the box brain deal with it and stop assumptions, manipulations and speculations based beliefs and what you call truth .

No wahala

achorladey:
I know your brain thinking outside the box is to peddle and blabber bull dung

Here is an example for you to ponder again.......

David then said to Nathan: “I have sinned against Jehovah.”Nathan replied to David: “Jehovah, in turn, forgives your sin. You will not die. 14 Nevertheless, because you have treated Jehovah with utter disrespect in this matter, the son just born to you will certainly die."


The child is an enemy of God who God didn't forgive,while the father who sinned was forgiven the child suffered death after seven days

The child who don't know his left and right and is not innocent based on babies are enemies of God cow dung you are blabbering while the King anointed by God who should read God's law day and night who knows left and right was spared and sins forgiven

It's alright.
Go and ask God why he destroyed babies.
The matter dé between you and God. A don comot hand.

MaxInDHouse:
Today is the last day of this service year.

I will like to connect you with the big boys in town, we deal in precious stones and iron scraps so if you're interested call me on the number i gave you.

I know you will need it now that other businesses are suffering setback.

Everything is online, after we have strike a deal each person gets his or her share we'll discuss the sharing formula.

Call me later in the day around 5pm for now i'm off to the field.

Good morning!

Good morning Sir.
Okay I'll give you a call in the evening.

achorladey:
You were thinking outside the box over the whole day telling me Babies are God's enemies based on the assumed, speculated and contradictory teachings of your GODS housed in Walkill.


show me first where that your Bible states Babies are enemies.

Going back and forth as usual.


We know every good and perfect gifts of God given to mankind are God's enemies to you. Awon thinking outside the box crew.

Babies that don't know their left from right are not innocent

Your God gives humans enemies as gifts. Yet your God stated.........


Therefore, if you(Cornelboy), although being wicked, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more so will your Father who is in the heavens give good things to those asking him

Keep blabbering bullsh.t
Just the way God gives rains and sun to both the righteous and the unrighteous is the same way every parents whether good or bad are rewarded with children.
That doesn't stop God from destroying the unrighteous and wicked parents at the end with their babies

If the world is to be destroyed today by God, the babies of the unrighteousness people will be destroyed too just like it happened in the past.

Show me the verse where it says "all babies are God's friends and innocent".
If you don't have it don't bother replying to this post.

achorladey:
After 8 hours of thinking outside the box you came back with.....




Your thinking outside the box is of no value after 8 hours in a nutshell based on your post.

From your NWT....... Every good gift and every perfect present is from above, coming down from the Father of the celestial lights,who does not vary or change like the shifting shadows.


Look! Sons are an inheritance from Jehovah;
The fruit of the womb is a reward.

Your God gives enemies as gifts or bad reward and inheritance You will bow down to your GODS housed in Walkill in order to make the word of the Bible you carry invalid

We have emphatically showed you repeatedly that Babies are inheritance and reward from God. The same Bible you carry tells you the below.....

Therefore, if you, although being wicked, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more so will your Father who is in the heavens give good things to those asking him


We know your GODS in USA gives their subject enemies and devil's as rewards to render the GOD they say they serve invalid.


Thinking outside the box goes down the drain and ditched into trash where it belongs.

No where says babies are God's friends or innocent. Show me the verse and I won't say anything again.

achorladey:
You cannot invalidate the Bible you carry based on your thinking outside the box manipulations God makes it rain on the good and the bad, the righteous and unrighteous. Correct?

Will the righteous and the unrighteousness be saved together? Nah! One will be destroyed and the other saved.

My last words Emusan on the matter.

Babies are not God's friends or innocent that was why God didn't spare them in the flood, amalek and Sodom/Gomorrah destruction.

Just as nowhere outrightly says babies are God's enemies, no verses also says they are God's friends or righteous.

We can only reason from the scripture.

Emusan:
So no verse says children are God's enemies

But there is a verse that says "Children are my Heritage and the fruit of the womb is my REWARDS" PS 127:3

Show me verses that says "all babies are God's friends". E no hard na.

achorladey:
What they become is not the issue here. The Bible says children are heritage or gift from God. Show us where the Bible you carry say babies are enemies of God word for word.

Okay

achorladey:
Until you show us where babies are God's enemies we will show that babies are God's friends.

The fuel powered thinking outside of the box don finish

Park for one side

Emusan:
Na you talk am oooo

But God says "Children are my Heritage and the fruit of the womb is my REWARDS" PS 127:3

Where is the verse that says Children are God's enemies?

Show me verses that says "babies are God's friends"

Emusan:
Children are God's heritage and His reward

Bring the verse where God says Children are my enemies.



Na you talk am, add the Bible verse

Even the child of an ifa priest and babalawo na God's heritage and reward

Emusan:
Children are my Heritage says the Lord and the fruit of the Womb are my REWARDS! Ps 127:3

Even babies that will later become prostitutes, gangster, armed robber, antichrist, apostates etc Abi

God killed his rewards in the flood but saved animals. Okay.

Emusan:
The Creator can do whatever He likes with His creations.

So far so good you haven't provided a single verse where God says ALL BABIES ARE HIS ENEMIES.

Rather the True God and the Creator says Children are His heritage. Ps 127:3

Are all babies God's friends?

advocatejare:
That’s another similarity between them and Islam. In Islam there is a concept called abrogation in which Allah always changed his mind, he would bring a new “revelation “ to Muhammad to cancel the old ones he and revealed earlier.

So the time he had fewer followers, he told the people of Mecca that they could practice their religion while the Muslims practiced theirs, but the moment he had a large army, he made it compulsory for everyone to become Muslims, the only alternative is death for men and becoming sex slaves for women.

No wonder MaxInDHouse chose JW, it’s Islam pro Max

I know the concept of abrogation in Islam. JWs don't change verses in the Bible and claim that God told them to replace them unlike what Mohammad did.
When JWs see some new light in the Bible, they would quickly adjust their beliefs to conform with the Bible. It's their interpretation that changes.

A lot of human ideas have been established in Christianity as doctrines after the extinction of the early church.

JWs are here restoring pure doctrines as it were in the early church.

The Muslims are very better than the Catholics. Tell me what the Muslims have done that the Roman Catholics haven't done worse.
At least the Muslims believe God is one person just like Jesus believed and taught. The disciples taught the same too. No trinity shit in the Bible.
Whereas confused people like you say God is a three persons God and yet he's still one. Funny

Emusan:
You're not the first to make this point.

@bold does that then mean ALL BABIES are enemies of Jehovah? This is the POV.

Remember that's what your religious leaders say.

While God says "CHILDREN ARE THE HERITAGE OF THE LORD"

Stop defending the doctrine of those who believe they can make doctrinal error despite being inspired.

Okay God killed his heritage during the flood, in Sodom, amalek and Egypt. I understand.

canamglobal:
FOUR EMBARASSING FACTS JWs WILL RUN AWAY FROM & FIND DIFFICULT TO ANSWER

JWs believe that Jesus Christ (actually Archangel Michael) invisibly returned in 1914 and appointed a few “faithful & discreet slaves” (Presently based in Brooklyn NY)). They interpret this event as the beginning of Christ's presence, marking a significant turning point in human history. Ask them!

JWs believe that an "anointed class" of 144,000 believers were chosen and sealed during the first century to rule with him in his heavenly kingdom. The rest of them are part of a "great crowd" of believers who will have eternal life in a paradise on Earth. Ask them!

JWs CANNOT answer if they are a child of God, because 99% believe they are not. Ask them!

JWs Believe they CANNOT read and understand the Bible on their own and need to be constantly guided by a bunch of “faithful & discreet slaves” based out of their HQ in Brooklyn, New York in the US. Ask them!

Where are the questions they cannot answer?

delkuf:
I had this argument recently with a jw and he showed me some bible verses that angel Michael is Jesus Christ. I must confess this guy almost won me and over with his argument. So I want to ask, can anyone bring out bible verses to refute this claim.



I believe that the Lord Jesus Christ can never be angel Michael. I just want bible verses to refute this because the jw is coming on Saturday to continue this argument

No verse explicitly says that Jesus is Michael. No verse outrightly says Jesus is not angel Michael.
Indeed there are clues in the Bible that show that archangel Michael could be the one sent as Jesus Christ by God.

achorladey:
Keep peddling fight as you leave to hot and gather and meet your likes

Okay

Emusan:
I didn't say so.

God is powerful to do unimaginable things yet He told Noah to construct ship.

So don't get it twisted



It will be unjust to the just God to save few and left the other.



God says "Children are His heritage"

Give me a verse where God says Children are His enemies.

In a nutshell God didn't save the babies.
The reason is simply that they were not innocent. Since they belong to wicked and unrighteous parents, God viewed them as wicked and unrighteous too and destroyed them together.
It happened in Sodom and Amalek too.

achorladey:
Carry your trophy chasing mentality out of my mention


Awon thinking outside of the box for their GODS crew. Come to a public platform to lie and manipulate people and termed it the only religious organization doing God's will on earth.

A don dé go jejely na you dé mention me o.
Go and fight God that allowed the babies to be killed Abi na mẹ kill them?

Emusan:
How will God preserve MILLIONS OF BABIES?

So you know what it takes to cater for Babies?

God said CHILDREN ARE HIS HERITAGE. Ps 127:3.

If they are His enemies, such statement won't come.

I know you'll agree with your 8 lying old men in Warwick than to agree with God.

You are saying God is not powerful enough to do that no wahala.
He didn't save any of them at all

Don't worry babies are God's friends but God still killed them wotoporously.