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Mattswaggz:
How is it a lose?.....think about a nuclear armed Iran now and how other nations will think twice before attacking it?..... having a nuclear weapon can make all the difference in a potential conflict....US keeping Iran below that threshold will be good for them now and in the future.

See talk na..

How many times will we tell you it's nonsense talk? If dem no even tell you, you no suppose know?

Nuclear capabilities levels the playing field. Thinking Iran would use it indiscriminately is nonsense. Even Fat Kim didn't do that let alone the old Persian with many old legacies. It's a safeguard against animals attacking you without provocation and it'll give anyone right to discuss as equals.

You people ehn. I no go answer you again. You no be human.

Mattswaggz:
Wouldn't Iran also build their own destroys sites by themselves?.

No na. You no dey look news?

Okay you're right. They'll build it themselves but with money paid by the US. That's the deal on ground and oga Trump wants to sign it. Plus a release of a few sanctions.

What the US is getting is a promissory note from Iran that they'll not go nuclear and the nuclear materials Iran already has.

For my book, it's a loss. As Hormuz was always open before the wahala so opening it no suppose count as gain to anyone.

josielewa:
ATIMES I ASK MYSELF THE REASON FOR THIS WAR. THERE WAS NO NUKE BEFORE THE WAR, STRAIT OF HORMUZ HAS BEEN OPEN SINCE AGES.

THIS IS A SENSELESS WAR WITH NO AMBITION OR OBJECTIVE ACHIEVED, JUST DESTRUCTION. THE OBJECTIVE OF THE WAR IS TO STOP IRAN FROM HAVING NUKES, THEY CLAIM IRAN HAS ENRICHED URANIUM. LAST YEAR JULY, A B2 BOMBER BLEW THE SITE OF THE URANIUM ENRICHMENT WITH TRUMP CLAIMING THAT ALL IRAN NUCLEAR POSSIBILITIES HAS BEEN DESTROYED.

FAST FORWARD TO THIS YEAR, ITS BEEN ENDLESS BOMBING WITH THE DEATH FROM THE BOMBING OF 140+ CHILDREN IN A SCHOOL. WHAT HAS AMERICA ACHIEVED, JUST DESTROY THE IRANIAN ECONOMY, WASTED AMMUNITIONS AND MONEY ON A SENSELESS WAR WITH NO AMBITION. IT HAS NOT EVEN BEEN VERIFIED IF AMERICA TRULY DESTROYED IRANIAN ENRICHMENTS. AMERICA WASTED MONEY AND AMMUNITIONS WHILE IRAN LOST A LARGE CHUNK OF WEAPONS,MONEY AND ECONOMY. NO OBJECTIVE ACHIEVED AT ALL.

THIS WILL STAY COOL FOR A WHILE, UNTIL ISRAEL WILL RAISE ANOTHER ALARM THAT IRAN HAS 50 NUCLEAR WEAPONS. SAME TRICK USED IN IRAQ IN 2003. I ASK MYSELF IF THERE ARE OTHER SINISTER MOTIVES FOR THESE UNNECESSARY WARS WITH NO CLEAR OBJECTIVE ACHIEVED.

You even see things clearly more than those taking sides.

The public is always fed whatever the elites decide.

The true intentions are kept amongst themselves.

Some say Venezuela and Iranian attacks by the US is because they sense a threat to the dollar standard. Some say BRICS was making moves and the US was looking to force the super leaders into a real confrontation.

The nonsense talk of Iran sponsoring terrorists is an excuse.

The US would sign a deal to pay for damages but the Nigerian wereys that support them won't see this as a loss. Didn't Ian also destroy US assets?

Iran never had nuclear capabilities and they might instead give them what they have now and try get them secretly later as that old Persian land won't be content with remaining weak.

The masses are stupid abeg..

Mattswaggz:
I've said it over and over again here that Iran would give up it's nuclear program but Iranian supporters here kept on arguing....US has always had different leverages to bring Iran to succumb to them throughout this conflict.

Gods, the US too lost a lot in this bruhaha...

And they'll be releasing many sanctions on that old Persian.

Their attacked bases would be rebuilt by themselves. They've been taken back a hundred steps.

Scavengers are watching. If e happen pass as e be, they might've swooped in.

Wetin make you think say Russia no wan use their full military might on Ukraine? But use mercs and others as cannon fodder? Because they know once they're weakened, scavengers would come for them.

Mattswaggz:
Iran would never give up give up their nuclear program blah blah blah....where are those guys that have been singing these songs here?....wuna think say na by mouth abi?. .

Come on. They'll give it up in public as there's no way the Americans and Israeli would let them rest otherwise... But if they're wise, they should first get rid of the moles in their higher ups and everywhere and get that big destroyers before these bullies know about it.

In our world today, it's the only guarantee for a level playing field.

Bigger and more respected than having Allah and Yahweh.

[quote author= post=139722817]Inukwa ooooo[/quote]Which one is inukwa? Na lie I talk?

You're even proud of ya spreading of bad news.

I thank the gods you don't know me else when I finally kick jerrycan, na you go tell everybody. VWM that you are (very wicked man)

Lwkmd 🤣🤣

MarketDispatch:
Very easy in UK... everything is interconnected....unlike Naija that Bvn, nin cannot even be used to trace bandits

Who would have known except those who have traveled and seen how things are done differently?

Nairaland and it's bots na APC supporters. As long as you speak something tangible against them, you'll chop 1hr ban.

Lojical1:
The Child Was Never a Python, the Real Danger Was Blind Faith.

Lols..

This is just one of the nonsense that happens when people trust so called spiritual masters.

It's a reason I will never go too close to any spiritual fanatic woman especially those who calls another man daddy because he's a pastor. They're always seen as very stupid in my eyes. So I won't have these kinda problems in my life where my woman acts stupid because of an advice from such deceivers.

Very vulnerable and easy to exploit.

Gods abeg o...
Why dem come dey drag her like that?

See even her breasts don dey outside.


This type of criminal should be locked somewhere to reflect. And the so-called seer should be shot on the head.

And Yinkodeen?

Blessings on you. This is how a manufacturing economy is built. From ground up. everyone eyes dey up, our eyes no just dey down to see most of the things for life. Even the government always look for big things to do. Forgetting that the small things build the big things. If we can start with manufacturing the small things first, doing the big ones would be easier for us.

This is my thoughts on the matter.

PeaceMaker24:
Good news atleast.
Been a while

There be many good news around if you check well but wereys like for example would never let us rest with their evil journalism...

Lwkmd 🤣🤣

So how will the law be enforced if these under 16s have phones and laptops?

Dem wan dey go around seizing devices or na "The Vices"?

Like I said before....

Most South Africans are good for nothings.

I have had this mind about them since I was younger and the idiots continue to prove I'm right.

Oil moguls would be frowning now.

Iran and Trump would be pressured into agreeing to whatever deal.

But if this can push the alternative energy forward, that'll mean these wereys already wanted to abandon oil and there's another energy means they want to sell to us.

Abi, why else dem dey oppress other ways before?

Awon oloriburuku

Lols he's like a man making promises to a woman he wants to simply lay...

Trump na anyhow person abeg .

FarmilyFinance:
You're Right.

And We Need To Find Out If This Is Still A Limiting Factor!


I Know Telecoms Provide Access To Security Agencies When Necessary.

I Don't Know About "Social Media Portals".


However, Every Social Media Portal Should Be Able To Provide "Location Access" To Relevant Authorities When Necessary Else - Such Social Media Portal Should Cease To Operate In Nigeria.

If you insult some people online, the can track you easily as it has been seen several times. How do you think they accomplished that?

The government is complicit. They can track everyone but the terrorists.

Nothing poverty no go cause.

Poverty is the true root of all evil.

Broveens42:
You can never cheat nature. This entity is not even a true nation to start with, how do you expect people to take things seriously?

True. It could be though...

nairalanda1:
SO, we remain under bad goverment because , by your words, we are poor!

Right.

Aiya...

Didn't mean that. I'd say we're poor because we have terrible government. Both human and material resources are poorly managed. That's common knowledge na.

And please, do not bring the talk of the leaders coming from the people. There has been those not doing well but suddenly having a great leader that led the nation to some form of greatness. Those are also from the masses but did things differently.

I dunno, it's how I see this whole thing... Many things hardly make any sense these days.

LordLicifer:
I think it is that their determination and conviction are ussually not strong enough hence they can be bought, they may have started with strong conviction and determination but along the line they fall when offered peanuts, everybody can be bought in Naigeeria. That is why corruption rules in all aspects..

Nah... I can't be sure. But if I was ever the one buying anyone out.

I'll first hold a knife on the heads of them and their loved ones, then offer them huge profit. It works almost everytime. Very persuasive

LordLicifer:
absolutely! %1000 correct!

South Africans has that spirit of unity they used against the apartheid regime..

Our own na tribalisms, bigotry, envy, selfiness, untrustworthyness, religious sentiments and betrayal. And when It comes to protesting, our own na cruise instead of protesting and even if there is leader of it he/she go collect money and abandon the protest.

Dis one wey dem neva ban you and me On dis topic i surprise oo!

Lols...

The leader collect money and abandoned the mass because that was their goal in the first place. Or their convictions and determination weren't strong enough.

No serious leader of an serious cause would let the mass dance, eat and drink action bitters the way it's being done in a serious protest. They would stir the anger in the hearts of the people instead and point them in a direction letting them know that's where they should unleash it all...

I no dey ever join them sha. My destiny is to be a shadow. Even if I wish to destroy the world, it'll be done as a shadow.

nairalanda1:
SO we should wait until we earn enough money.

If that was the case, South Korea, Japan and China would still be backward.

When you say "we" , are you talking about the people or the country?

If you're talking about the people, I'll be baffled. The people are just cogs in the machine.
The way China and japandirected and invested in their people, do you see it happening around here?

China did even JVs massively back then and that in turn brought in jobs, so the people could earn. They invested in the education of their citizens. Or you think many paid high school fees back then? No. Gave grants and encouraged agriculture. Sent some abroad to learn useful skills. All these from the governments pocket. That's how it was driven to where it is today.

Manufacturing no go just jump improve because we pay high taxes or pay high for services. It starts from somewhere.

Or maybe you think all the debts accrued by successive governments are not enough to gradually create this manufacturing and service based economy you speak of?

I don tire brother. Let's leave it at this for today.

nairalanda1:
Manufactured goods and services based economy

If you do not understand, sorry.

I quite understand. If you could recall, we've had discuss like this more than once.

Our disagreement on the matter simply rests on where it'll all start from. And I mentioned, there would first be this in place, then when the people earn whatever is enough to be called a better purchase power, that's when they can pay taxes and pay for improved services. Not before manufacturing and services improve, After. Or you forget?

Or I still dey get you wrong? I don't understand how you are not seeing this.

LordLicifer:
Yes, i still believe that power belongs to the masses (Nigerians) not the politicians only if the masses are united just like these South african masses who has forced their leaders to make this decision. It was wrong how the Zambian man was treated but at least it brought about a reaction by the South africa leaders in support of the masses concerns.

True.. I won't lie, I even envy their spirit.

The power the masses have only has use when there's some directing factor. I for one believes in the power of the people but one without direction and a unified cause is like a house built with just sand.

South Africans have always been like this since times of old. Even if they're doing nonsense, they'll band together unitedly and do the nonsense with conviction and determination. And they have those who'd rise from among the mass and lead them.. That's only what I envy about them.

If our country had same spirit, I wouldn't be choosing solving our problems the way I've always done on here that always angers Mr Seun and his bots.

Over here, they'll claim to protest but would instead hinder their fellow citizens and block roads with loud speakers, food and drink and be dancing and misbehaving everywhere. It happened during the EndSARS time and no one knows where funds for rice and cow came from. I argued with a friend back then. The intention was correct but the process was entirely wrong.

In Delta State, the same character. Protesters playing music and dancing. Na people wey something dey pain be that? Such irresponsible behaviors.... SMH

LordLicifer:
This has nothing to do with The leaders. The masses are the problem not the leaders. Remember it is the masses that let the leaders get away with all they do and even help them to get away with it , the leaders came from the masses also, the masses supports the leaders with their crimes, so yes, you are correct.

It still has something to do with the leaders. No mass would gather with a unified chant and cause without a spearhead.

The leader of this their movement has their own agendas. It's political and selfish but they'll always hide behind the stupid masses.

Yes, the leaders come from the masses. But don't forget, the masses are like headless flies. Always led astray. If because of these actions South Africa faces any backlash guess who they'll blame...

That was why I laughed during the EndSARS sham. Such a movement would need a spear head, a unified cause, without that, it would be mobs creating chaos and those would be dealt anyhow the oppressive government sees fit and like all mobs, they'll scatter and the fear among the people will gain stronger muscles...

South Africans are known to be lazy and good for nothings. Many can't hustle like others but the entitlement mentality is what's causing this nonsense. I watched one online saying there are businesses immigrants are banned from doing and the man would have to forsake his carwash because it belongs to them now. No one was talking about compensation. That Zambian has been in South Africa for over 40yrs. Yet they want to take his sweat just like that.

One would expect his government to retaliate the way they the South Africans did to that Israeli ambassador... It's the right response. You don't dialogue with a man holding a knife.

nairalanda1:
Better read a good history of communist countries that did what you wanted.

The result was always the same. Ran out of money, used loans and subsides to a greater extent than Nigeria ever did to keep up appearances and then they collapsed, or went capitalist

First, the idea of communism is always funny to me. How come you say it's what I want?

I even just mentioned that all you're saying has merit, did I not?

Just wondering where spending power would magically come from. Our country today is an example. The spending power has so reduced that even the small snacks vendor is feeling the heat. Just wanted to hear your opinion on that.

Plus, communism and capitalism are simply idealogies and one way or the other, there's a point where both meet in any society no matter what they claim to practice.

Communist societies wey still get those small group of people wey dem favor pass the rest? Wey get wealthy pass the rest? Or the capitalist societies that still do give aways like communists all with different definition? I can't state the similarities expertly bit if you check reality well, you'll see the text book definition is totally almost nonsense. It's all pretenders doing their pretending trick. The masses are always the ones to suffer.

I for one scoff at all these claims. They're never wholely so.

Just speak about whence come spending power. As it now seems the funds gotten from the people would be the driving force of the development you speak of. And if I'm reading you wrongly, do tell me. I know money goes in a circle. It's never even with the people.

So where would the people get the funds to pay for the high services you speak of?

IamAtAnger:
Just a little taste from what you dish out

The mumu still dey expect an oracle to come tell him why that's the case...

Africa should not only ignore them but to actively chase them far like an adult with soiled pants.

Reject everything from them and isolate them.

Although, I won't be ever against not letting undocumented immigrants stay in any country but their brutish treatment and even killing my people, is unforgivable.

LabStores:
Lol
These people are just so unbelievable and unreasonable.
EVEN THEIR GOVERNMENT IS IN SUPPORT OF ALL THEIR XENOPHOBIC ATTACKS AND CRIME AGAINST OTHER NATIONALS.
The whole Africa will teach you people a lesson you'll never forget.

The criminals are not after any illegal immigrants, their main objective is to LOOT, STEAL AND DESTROY what other nationals have worked hard for. It's just pure evil, jealousy and LAZINESS.

You go blame them? Is it not the weaklings that can't mirror their useless actions one would blame...

Person like me go find excuse deport ya own people too, seize their businesses with a promise to pay but only the gods know that won't happen. But that also means I would have put work to make my country quasi-independent of the clapback of such an action.

But I know say no animal would dare it. I'll even rally other nations to do you same. When the become rejected everywhere in the continent, nobody go tell them to get sense..

IamAtAnger:
Their country their rules ... na our leaders from 1960 I go still blame, if to sey home dey okay wetin person go dey find for outside? All these see finish from mere slaves no go dey

I dey tell you...

We still have citizens in this country wey dey support the leaders o. Some for huge osusu, some for just a cup of rice.

Na all of dem cause this see finish.

Gotocourt:
Only if all sales money are paid into Nigeria's financial system 😥.

For wetin?

Na Nigeria get the refinery?

My own be say. How the refinery dey produce 700k barrels and whatnot yet we no dey see fuel for our country use. Abi the old thief dey export all of them? Plus imported products from the other thieves o...

Ayam not just understanding

nairalanda1:
So we should believe the lie that other African countries are developed?

Plus I have told you folk what needs to be done several times including in the post I put up that you quoted.

But you guys think that we are Saudi Arabia. That all.we need to do is to sell oil money and share it equitably and we go dey all right.

That's not how to become a prosperous nation, that's how to become a debtor nation

Like Nigeria , like Africa

What you recommend is not all bad.
Might I ask you where would the spending power of the citizens come from to make it a reality?