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Read again, this time carefully so you can understand. Clown!

jaephoenix:
You see what we're talking about? Even your doctor-hate cannot allow you read properly. The topic said they were owed 2 months, and youre here ranting if they missed last month's salary. See a psychiatrist for your doc hate psychosis. Ooopppss. The psychiatrist is still a doctor. Lol

Whether or optional or compulsory, when you are compulsorily asked to do a research or complete a course to get a specific degree, it is simple "measuring up".

jaephoenix:
Oga, PhD isn't higher. It's just an alternative path for any doctor to follow. In the end, no doc would get a PhD since its worthless in our medical job career. And NUC knows no doc would get that, but they are trying to save face. So ultimately the doctors won since they wont require any PhD to teach in the university. Capisce, hater?

Just shut up, you play the victim card so well. Can you please research the months that wasn't paid? Did they miss last month or last two months salaries? Please enough!!! A typical Nigerian does things at the wrong time. This is not the time to go on strike, after this pandemic you can go on strike as much as you want.

jaephoenix:
… and those Italian, Chinese and Western doctors have been owed for 2 months, right? Listen, you guys are unreasonable. Even if the Nigerian doc wants to go to work, where do u think he's gonna get money for fuel or transport fees or food or school fees for kids? Have you heard a doctor got free meals at any restaurant or free fuel, instead they would even con you to pay more. We still queue to buy(yes buy) fuel and still pay for meat like the ordinary Nigerian. So why should we work on empty stomachs with our kids at home?

Try to my countries first. Clown!!!!

johnmartus:
May I know your state.

Some volunteer to work free in this pandemic, however they are still paid. Shameless folks saw no time to go on strike but now the pandemic is close to your home. Just wait for it.

jaephoenix:
… and those Italian, Chinese and Western doctors have been owed for 2 months, right? Listen, you guys are unreasonable. Even if the Nigerian doc wants to go to work, where do u think he's gonna get money for fuel or transport fees or food or school fees for kids? Have you heard a doctor got free meals at any restaurant or free fuel, instead they would even con you to pay more. We still queue to buy(yes buy) fuel and still pay for meat like the ordinary Nigerian. So why should we work on empty stomachs with our kids at home?

You made sense until said China doesn't pretend. I

Xisnin:
No.
Like other people, you misunderstand the philosophy of the CCP probably
due to the number of propaganda and unverified news being spread unchallenged.

If Hitler is alive today, China will trade with him.

You don't understand what is at stake.
China has separatists region in their country too.
They also have Taiwan to contend with.
China is only interested in doing business.
The strength of China is not being a people-pleaser.

Debt trap didn't start with China and China does not pretend.
If the west don't care about the debt trap when giving out predatory loans, is it the communist that will?

Citizenship or Citizenry. Please if you don't know what to say next time please use "citizens". However, having been to the 5 eastern states, I will boldly say Abia is the worst.

johnmartus:
Shut up Abia is greater than Anambra. All of you will be ridiculing my state and your stupid governor in imo Ebonyi, Enugu and Anambra state were not do anything to better their citizenship.

Great mind spotted

mrvitalis:
This airport should have been located somewhere between umuahia and aba so it can serve the two city well

This Minister of Finance is far better than previous one. She is a realist.

opportunes:
https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/fg-places-embargo-on-recruitment.html

Sometimes stubbornness can only lead one to his or her doom. Foolishness is when you don't know when to stop being unrealistic.

helinues:
Lies

Oshiomole is too stubborn and arrogant to let Obaseki go like that. Infact he might no mind to loose his chairman position just to see Obaseki gone.

We are watching and reading as things unfold

If you think deep you will understand that Minister of Health is loving this. Very soon some UN bodies will be supporting some African countries with huge pay. Countries have to just justify they deserve the pay. Does that make any sense?

Germi9:
what sort of wickedness is this..you knew you had the virus,you deliberately entered a plane and came to Nigeria to spread it before dying...this is ridiculous what is our government doing sef?

That's is corruption for you. The is business opportunity for some.

haleymoon:
Why did the test on the American tested inconclusive, does this look like Nigerian election where everything is inconclusive till further notice.. wetin de even do this country, why in the hell would his test be inconclusive, which kind of blood him get... The should better come out and state his status or we conclude the test 4 him before midnight.. which kind of report be this during this time soo

You summarized it properly. I am happy someone understands the game.

DropsMic:
They left the border open so enough confirmed cases can come into the country... Ergo qualifying Nigeria for the support WHO has already pledged to give affected African Countries..
....

Also if there's any support given to affected African nations in the future, Nigeria go follow chop inside

That's how deep greed and corruption in Nigeria is..

Be thankful first

Northmall:
It should be 70 Naira.

So in your mind this is the right time for you strike to demand 2 months owed pay? Corona is knocking by the corner and all you think best is to go on strike. Chinese, Italian and western doctors are busy trying to save their countries and the world but Nigerian doctors are rather using it as a bargaining chip. You guys are just shameless. Many doctors abroad are volunteering to assist Italy as I speak. I saw a Doctor from Ghana providing some innovative local tips to help secure his country but you guys here are just empty.

jaephoenix:
Yes I stand by my question. Contact me with the jobless doc. Unless he doesn't wanna work or he's disdainful and choosy of the job opportunities available

Yes it is considering the point I made, are you okay now?

jaephoenix:
That's not criticism. You read that doctors went on strike cos they were owed 2 months after many ultimatum has been ignored. The first thing u said was call them names and propose for their termination. Is that criticism sir?

Trash

jaephoenix:
Yes I stand by my question. Contact me with the jobless doc. Unless he doesn't wanna work or he's disdainful and choosy of the job opportunities available

I read only the second link, which is credible. After reading I understood that fact that PhD is made optional for Clinical lecturers and a pathway was created for fellows to get a PhD. The matter is resolved. Bottom line is PhD is still above the fellowship because you will still require thesis to acquire a PhD (which many of stupidly call cosmetic. NUC set the standards As for me hating doctors, I careless about your opinion or thought. Peace(quote author=jaephoenix post=87562860]
https://www.thexpressng.com/2020/03/07/nuc-approve-clinical-sciences-doctoral-programme-as-it-settles-row-with-mdcan/

https://thenationonlineng.net/nuc-mdcan-settle-phd-row/

There you go sir.
Next thing you would say u want to interview the journalists and editors that printed the news. Your doctor hate is eating you up.
Now run along and play with other kids [/quote]

Please share the web link you got this from. The source will earn you my response on the issue. Don't post medical blog here. I see how shallow you guys make your research.

jaephoenix:
Bros, leave insult and answer. Why did the MDCAN call off the strike. Oya read the communique. Pay attention to Number 3 and 4, doctor hater

NUC And Consultant Doctors Reach Agreement Over Academic Requirements*

Dear NEC Member and colleagues,

RE- FELLOWSHIP VERSUS PHD CRISIS

Following the intervention of the Chairman, House Committee on Health and the House Committees on Healthcare Services and Tertiary Education, a mediation meeting was brokered between the MDCAN and NUC. Initial discussions which commenced in plenary on Tuesday 3rd of March, 2020 and continued at committee level on Wednesday 4th of March, 2020. Present at the meeting today were the representatives of the House Committees on Healthcare Services and House Committee on Tertiary Education, NUC team led by the ES, Prof. Rasheed Ibrahim, the Chairman Committee of VCs, Chairman Committee of Provosts of Colleges of Medicine, Representative of the Registrar MDCN, Representative of the NPMCN, President of NMA and the MDCAN team led by the President.

At the end of the meeting, the following resolutions were reached:
1.That the Fellowship is the highest qualification for clinical specialists and remains the qualification for employment for clinical lecturers into the University (Lecturer I)

2.That the PhD is the highest academic qualification in the University

3.That the possession of PhD by clinical lecturers is voluntary and optional

4.That non- possession of PhD will not hinder the clinical lecturer from being promoted from one rank to the other up to the level of Professor in the Nigerian University system

5.That the NUC circular of 24th December 2019 creates room for wrongful interpretation to mean that those without PhD will not enjoy career progression and is to be therefore replaced by a fresh circular without such ambiguity
In the course of the discussion, a lot of technical issues arose surrounding the relative roles of key stakeholders such as the Universities, NPMCN and the MDCN.

It was agreed that the NUC should issue a fresh document to correct the impression created by the previous circular especially with respect to points 4 & 5 above, and an appeal was made to MDCAN to call of its strike (withdrawal of services) while discussions will continue concerning sundry matters affecting consultants at the committee level.
Consequently, the NUC has availed us of a fresh document today to supersede the previous one correcting the wrong impressions earlier created.
We have however clearly impressed on the committee that NEC is the only organ of the Association with the powers to take decisions on the strike. It is the belief of NOC that sufficient progress has been made to warrant an emergency NEC to examine the offer at hand, analyze the matters arising and re- strategize on the way forward.
Notice for an emergency NEC meeting will be sent for Saturday, 7th March, 2020 in Abuja. NEC members are strongly urged to attend as there are more issues emerging which are of interest to MDCAN beyond the current PhD issue.

Thank you,


Signed
Prof. Ken Ozoilo Dr. M. P. Chingle
President Secretary General

Obviously the fluctuation of your stupidity will never allow see know the difference between hating and criticizing.

jaephoenix:
The guy na chronic doc hater. On one thread, the foooool was saying the Govt should fire all the doctors and hire foreign ones. I was just laughing at his stvpidity and ignorance

The question you just asked shows how funny you are

jaephoenix:
Bros which doc dey jobless? This hater sef

Provide a link for the research and I will show the flaws

Teasyy:
I keep saying it... Your comments Show you lack enough facts. You're one of those people who argue blindly. My dear, it is not a person that did the research OK. It is WHO and other high ranking research, including research conducted by BBC. Of course they will always be unemployed doctors that is because the government will rather embezzle money than committing money into health care and employ doctors.
Meanwhile, you have an Android phone don't just use it to type comments without facts... Even google can help you, the facts are there. Not to mention the fact that Nigerian doctors pass the foreign exams more than the whites themselves... And they land juicy jobs where they are paid over 20 times what they earn here and are never owed a dime. Most of the doctors You See here are on their way out already. When you start working and coming in contact with real health hazards, Viruses, bacteria etc that can kill you or even be transmitted through you to your family and you're still owed salaries on top of that, then you can make comments that lack wisdom. Till then, doctors are indispensable and should be treated as such. Sorry if it doesn't sit well with you or any other clueless Nigerian but that is the way it is. Only a fool will support people to work and not get paid for their services. Peace too

It definitely would

henrinco:
I won't be surprised if the one donated to Nigeria end up in pharmaceutical shops.

I knew it was not going to be a Nigerian doctor working in Nigeria. They never disappoint me. All they know here is salary, fighting patients and fighting other health workers. Nothing innovative from them. Save me excuses of poor facility

Macsjebs:
source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8122493/People-Type-blood-likely-catch-coronavirus.html

First the person who came with the ratio figure is a clown and obviously try to push an agenda. See the researcher of those figures is corrupt. Doctors keep leaving the country yet many doctors are still unemployed. Cut the crap, I know the realities on ground. Have you wondered why western countries hardly believe or double check our researches. An average Nigerian researcher has no research ethics including those in the medical space. See you think you can impress with these figures, try do that with novices not me. If I ask for the type of research or research design that produced those figures, you will deviate. See Goan sleep. Your first question say a lot about the profession. Peace!!!

Teasyy:
I read your comment and I couldn't stop laughing. it only shows how deficient you are of accurate information. in other words "you never know wetin time dey talk yet"
The ratio of Doctor to patient in Nigeria is currently 1 doctor to 6000 patients... meaning there are not enough doctors for patients, why because the doctors are leaving this useless country to practice outside the shores of this country where their welfare is paramount. As it stands now... patients tend to sit for long in some facilities waiting to see doctors because they are few doctors. so my dear, No Jupiter can wake up and Sack doctors in Nigeria, sorry to burst your bubble.

Do you know what it means working without salaries.?
I don't mean office work where you sit and cross your legs, I mean working and getting exposed to HIV, Lassa, Hepatitis, ...etc... then at the end of the month your salary is not paid? You then sit there and say they have no passion? Will passion feed you, pay your bills? You're making senseless comments. May God help you.

I wonder how Nigeria chose that guy as a Minister of Health. In fact Nigeria is a mystery

fergie006:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/03/just-in-katsina-records-first-suspected-case-of-coronavirus/amp/?utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter&__twitter_impression=true

The number thing on list say it all. Most of you should be mechanics. I have got no time to counter and explain your trash

Teasyy:
I read your comment and I couldn't stop laughing. it only shows how deficient you are of accurate information. in other words "you never know wetin time dey talk yet"
The ratio of Doctor to patient in Nigeria is currently 1 doctor to 6000 patients... meaning there are not enough doctors for patients, why because the doctors are leaving this useless country to practice outside the shores of this country where their welfare is paramount. As it stands now... patients tend to sit for long in some facilities waiting to see doctors because they are few doctors. so my dear, No Jupiter can wake up and Sack doctors in Nigeria, sorry to burst your bubble.

Do you know what it means working without salaries.?
I don't mean office work where you sit and cross your legs, I mean working and getting exposed to HIV, Lassa, Hepatitis, ...etc... then at the end of the month your salary is not paid? You then sit there and say they have no passion? Will passion feed you, pay your bills? You're making senseless comments. May God help you.

Nigerians should take time to read about Corona Virus. The government is acting slow because of certain facts. Also if you read may be the panic in you will reduce. Those who tested positive in Nigeria, has anyone among them die? Please I advise everyone to read about the virus, including morbidity, mortality and recovery stat.

fergie006:
https://www.channelstv.com/2020/03/18/breaking-covid-19-fg-confirms-five-new-cases-in-nigeria/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

You are just a childish clown! Obviously a lazy human. You don't deserve my time.

jaephoenix:
Since I don't know, paste the agreement here. Did NUC stick to their former position or they changed? So in effect, who win?

Lol the fluctuation of your stupidity can kill an erection. If you need my mention again kindly paste the agreement between both parties here.

jaephoenix:
I do. Cos I remember you distinctly spilling bile on that thread where MDCAN members went on strike, calling doctors all sorts of name, and saying NUC shouldnt bow to them. Even said if you r the president, you'd sack all the doctors blah blah blah, and employ foreign ones. So obviously I'm looking at you now NUC bowed. Bofffffffffoon

Lol, try to graduate first o. These topics ain't for you yet.

jaephoenix:
I have no patient now, hater. 14 years post grad. So stuff your lectures where the sun don't shine

Yes I must admit there are wonderful doctors and forgive me that I focused so much on the negative ones.

jaephoenix:
So cos you have met some lazy doc, that makes the remaining thousands lazy. I see you r brainy