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The MC said, 'Please, go back to your seat if you are not spraying money' Chai!

Riches are vanity, so is poverty. Choose your vanity wisely!

DontBullshitMe:
I see mediocrity.

Coming from someone that has produced nothing.

HellVictorinho:
Rubbish!!!!
You obviously have reading disorders.
I was talking about the impossibility of NOTHING as well as the infinite forms in which ANYTHING can exist.
So,shut the 4urk up!!!!!!!!!

Alright. Bye.

HellVictorinho:
According to religion,there is a God that created the Universe out of NOTHING.
But that's nonsense because NOTHING can't exist.
According to pantheism,the Universe is God and NOTHING exists outside it.
But that's also nonsense because the Universe has no mind and it's impossible for NOTHING to exist.
But ANYTHING can exist in infinite forms.
Therefore, NOTHING can't exist before or after or alongside ANYTHING.

Even science agrees that time, matter, space and energy began their courses billions of years ago, the story of which you refer to as physics. God exists beyond the realms of something (physical). So if your understanding is limited the ambits of this realm, you can't fathom him. The only way you can interface with his realm is by engaging the mystery of faith. Until then, any attempt to explain him with your senses (which he didn't create for that purpose) is an exercise in futility.

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HellVictorinho:
If you can understand nonsense,why is God also mysterious to you?

He isn't.

Matthew 13:11
He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

HellVictorinho:
The words and their arrangements are vanity.
In other words,they don't make sense.
Most or all religious people say the Gods are mysterious or God is mysterious.
But the truth is that the practice of religion makes life more absurd.

Yeah, it shouldn't make sense to you.
1 Corinthians 2:14
The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.

franklytrue:
Ok. And vanity in another context says 'the trait of being unduly vain and conceited; false pride.'

All is "vanity" -"useless" so to speak as Davido puts it. That was where I was focusing on.

"All is VANITY" (temporal) - The Preacher
[All is] "material things" [VANITY] ("...useless" ) - Davido
All is VANITY ("having no real or lasting value" ) - you

ALL is vanity.
The Preacher did not say ONLY "material things" is vanity.

Heaven will last forever, so will hell fire. They are not vanities (temporal, useless or having no real or lasting value)

Everything [physical] will pass away but God will still make a new heaven and a new earth which will remain forever.

But note that this Ecclesiastes Preacher was one who had started going astray from God, marrying strange wives, worshiping other gods, tasting and enjoying many things in life without much restrain and now it had become bland to him, and loosing touch of the true purpose of creation from his Maker's perspective he declared, 'ALL is vanity'. Too much of everything is bad.

Neither God nor Jesus ever declared or seconded his statement that ALL (every single thing in this life and beyond) is vanity. That it was quoted by a person in the bible doesn't unarguably make it truth. Was he led by the Spirit of God (the Spirit of Truth) at that time to declare such? What was the condition of his heart at such a time?

When the devil lied to Eve that if she ate the fruit she will not surely die as against what God had declared initially, does it mean the devil was saying the truth? No.
What was the condition of his heart at such a time?

When the devil tempted Jesus to cast himself down and that God will charge His angels to bear him up, that was true scripture but was it the right thing for Jesus to do at that time and tempt God unnecessarily? No.
What was the condition of the devil's heart at such a time? Always evil. He has always been a liar and his words in the bible are not to be trusted.

When the Pharisees said Jesus had Beelzebub and casts out spirit through Beelzebub, were they saying the truth? No.
What was the condition of their hearts at that time?

Therefore a man declaring that ALL (every single thing both physical and spiritual, visible and invisible, tangible and intangible, things in heaven, earth and hell) is vanity [either temporal, useless or without real/lasting value] doesn't mean it is true unless God says so and God did not say so. God's Word is not vanity.

Voila, you finally say it yourself, 'everything physical will pass away...' That's the point I've been trying to make. I'm glad you get it now. Thanks for your time.

HellVictorinho:
The Bible is vanity.

The book yes. The words no!

franklytrue:
Ok...You could have stated it that way then but it is still a rash conclusion to say EVERYTHING MATERIAL is vanity; that which God created? He created and made all these things: the stars, sun, moon, earth and all that is therein, and saw that "it was very good".

The food you eat is it vanity? If it is, then you shouldn't eat it or you wouldn't need it to sustain your life.
The things God created are good and many are for mutual benefits but we sometimes use then vainly and in a wrong way, that is why moderation is essential and it in itself is not vanity.
'When the purpose of a thing is not known, the abuse is inevitable'

God did not create vanity. His creation is not vanity. We can only use them vainly or appropriately [correctly and moderately].

Then nothing is vanity because God created everything. CHECKMATE!
Well just to help you, vanity in this context means, 'Having no real or lasting value'.
That is why the holy book which you have quoted severally tells us that everything but the word of God will pass away including heaven and earth. Ecclesiastes seconds this by saying, 'All is vanity'.

franklytrue:
So you mean life God created is vanity?
And your life is vanity too?
What about life after this world? Is it vanity?

Everything outside of God; a relationship with Him who can do and undo, is vanity. He is the everlasting, the Omnipotent and Omniscient God.

"O taste and see that the LORD is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him.
O fear the LORD, ye his saints: for there is no want to them that fear him.
The young lions do lack, and suffer hunger: but they that seek the LORD shall not want any good thing." - Psalms 34:8-10

"Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore." - Psalms 16:11

Don't digress! I never referred to life. Everything material is vaniy. Whether you have much, little or in moderation that's my point.

franklytrue:
How is it vanity?
What is the meaning of vanity?
What then is not vanity in this life?

Everything in this world is vanity.

franklytrue:
Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.
And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich.
And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
And they that heard it said, Who then can be saved?
And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.
- Luke 18:22-27

'But godliness with contentment is great gain.
For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.
And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.
For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness' -1 Timothy 6:6-11

'Trust not in oppression, and become not vain in robbery: if riches increase, set not your heart upon them.' -Psalms 62:10

'Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand.' -Philippians 4:5

And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth. - Luke 12:15

Don't choose any vanity. Life is beyond acquiring or lacking stuffs. Moderation is key at this point

Moderation you say? That is also vanity.

gift2xl:
Vanity the bible Say's.

Riches are vanity. So is poverty. Choose your vanity.

Buliwyf:
This one has comprehension problems lol. Typical Trump supporter still butthurt that he can't even understand what's being said.
Una go cry tire.

Where did he say NO BIDEN NO VACCINE? Lol.
I didn't know butthurt affects comprehension this much. You guys have 4 years to cry. You are just starting.

Whether you like it or not, Trump is a lame duck president. So the Biden team is the one health officials will be discussing with right now since they will be in charge when the vaccines will be distributed. And the earlier the transition starts, the earlier plans can be made for the supply chain. That's what that picture you attached is saying and you know it. But you want to keep pushing your narrative.

I would have sent you links to show you where Fauci and other experts have said that the efficacy of the vaccine once distributed to the general population will probably come down but if they can get up to 60% it will be a good thing. But it's not like you will read it or acknowledge the truth. You wouldn't even be able to see clearly with those buckets of tears dripping down your eyes. You will be ok in a few months lmao

Run along man.

Buliwyf:
It's hard discussing with you Trump guys once you are locked in on a narrative. Here is a link of Fauci talking about when the vaccine will be ready:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/10/26/covid-vaccine-fauci-says-findings-will-be-known-by-early-december.html
So he was just off by a few weeks.

By the way you do realise that those 70 million doses you are talking still won't be administered until all the peer review and data check has been done, don't you? You also have to realise that those doses are not for America alone. So only a few portion of that will be available for the few countries that ordered it. That doesn't count as mass distribution, does it? Until next year before the logistic line is set in place fully and mass rollout can begin. Even the German scientist that helped in creating the Pfizer vaccine is saying that it will be until next winter before life can be truly normal if all works out well.

That's the simple fact. But you can keep running your own narrative.

Well, it's even harder conversing with you. Making such claims and assumptions as the bolded in defense of a person WRT a project you know little to nothing about is appalling. After all, it was after tests and analysis that he came to a conclusion that the vaccines are over 90% safe and effective, even claiming that he would take it. Well, you man's criterion for an immediate rollout of the vaccines is a quick Biden transition and not your assumed data analysis. In other words, NO BIDEN, NO VACCINES! You better wake up. You're thinking science, your guys are thinking politics.

Buliwyf:
Well the vaccine technically isn't yet available, is it? What you are seeing here are preliminary results. More information and tests are still needed before any of these results are verified. So it will be until next year before you see any mass rollout of any of these vaccines.

Secondly most of these vaccines were developed using a novel method. So you can expect lack of accuracy in any projections on when they will be available and their final effect. It will surely be less than the 90+% you are seeing in the data.

Trump supporters are the only ones who deny science and as soon as results don't go their way, become experts in the same science lol.

This isn't science it is pseudoscience. Fauci's submission was that 'scientists expect to know whether at least one of the numerous potential Covid-19 vaccines in development is safe and effective by early next year'. This claim was made after Trump claimed that vaccines would be ready for wide distribution by December, which has proven true today because Pfizer and Moderna has assured a rollout of 70Million doses by December. Also, note that this same man has fumbled in various predictions and models regarding the virus even when numerous counterclaims have been made by reknown scientists in refutation. It will be sheer denial of facts to assert that there is some element of politics to these things. How can Trumps predictions be more accurate than the 'expert'? It will also be a case of sheer mediocrity of reasoning to defend the errors of the 'expert'.

Starzo:
and all of a sudden, the vaccines start becoming "effective" after the media declared Biden as president
we just dey look una

Fauci even disagreed when Trump asserted that the vaccine would be available before the year runs out, stating that the earliest would be early next year. Biden wins and the narrative swerves.

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tayolove12:
Joe is not the best but I don't pray for second time Trump in the office
God help us all

Why?

budaatum:
It was more like the press versus the liar.

Twitter now defines the liars. How myopic. Y'all yet cry foul when you hear 'social media censorship'.

Hate filled journalism. Journalism should involve laying facts to bare and letting the reader rationalise it to make a decision and not forcing one's opinion down the readers throat. The hate reportage by the press is disgustingly unacceptable. In the end, it was the press Vs the president. All the leftists had on Trump was their virus which they tactfully used against him. The rest are concoctions.

America will surely be regretting this decision like Nigerians are of their decision in 2015.

emerged01:
A true President is not suppose to stand for any religion. He should make sure there is a smooth relationship among all religions. It is not good to stand for a religion.













Before you quote me know that I am a christian.

You might be a Christian but you didn't say this as a Christian. Otherwise, you should have given us scriptural backing for this statement.

DamZik:
Thank you Mr Governor. I was one of the people that criticized you in the other thread. May God bless you and your government.

I am Damola from Odua Nation.

Include your account number so that he can drop something.

TecM0:
All thanks to Trumps policy, criminalising Mexicans, building a wall on them, seperating their migrants from their own children and deporting parents

Too much CNN and leftist media dey worry this one.

The COVID scam continues. But one day, the tormentors would be the tormented.

urchcoded:
this made blacks abandon their original style and sound to start singing CCM so as to think acceptance. This brought to limelight the likes of Ron kenoly, then gradually everyone now sings this style as na wetin Dy reign Travis green, Jonathan Nelson Dem. I'm glad you at least understand my point.

Yeah. This racism thing is such a big problem. When you try to suppress it, it manifests in another dimension.

ecomalchemist:
lol, davido FEM na gospel music to my ears sha.

Happy Sunday.

Happy Wednesday bro!

urchcoded:
people need to know whasgoinon.

Tasha Cobb was the artiste of the year. The racism isn't that deep. The likes of Tauren and Travis have won several Christian music awards on this and several other platforms. I get your point tho, especially the distinction btw christian and gospel music although one can easily tell the difference upon hearing them without knowing the race of the singer. So I tend to think that colored people have built their distinct style of music over time which has been branded gospel same goes to whites. In summary I think they are two different genres divided by style and not by skin.

Hambivert:
Sparogatively, Way Maker has always been a beautiful song... but it only gained global attention after a series of cover by other international artiste and when she performed it at Kanye West's Sunday Service. Just like that everything changed for that song in the global sphere!


Why am I even saying this?

...Pray for Divine Helpers

She never performed this song at Kanye's Sunday service. Get your facts right

urchcoded:
This song only made limelight because of Leeland's version of it. If it was possible for her to be totally sidelined and the whole credit given to Leeland, it would have been done. The racism that exists in Christian music industry is bigger than you would think or believe. It is so much that any song that does not sound like the regular CCM (white pattern) is called gospel song and not Christian song, lolx funny enough everyone accepted this without asking why, songs that sounds black Americanish or Africanish can never be in any christian music award nomination. Well I know all that matters to y'all is as far as Jesus is glorified, no wahala. But at least know what happens in the industry.

You have a point.