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More JW decline...

OkCornel:
Mount Vesuvius and the destruction of the city of Pompeii before the end of the first century AD comes to mind…

Exactly. Thank you.

MaxInDHouse:
Na wah o!

So some people can't sleep again over what a global family of peace loving worshipers believe, yet none of you can present a better performing group than this group!

Even the events that began unfolding since 1914 is enough for any sincere individual to know that the calculation was accurate talkless the fact that there is no better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses!

Stop being a dunce! The events you are referring to didn't start from 1914. Stop being a dunce! Do your research in History. War, famine, Earthquakes, et.c didn't start in 1914. Jesus told his disciples they will see and hear these things happen which means they happened way before 1914. If these events waited till 1914 to happen,that means Jesus lied to his disciples that they will see and hear about these events. Use your brain and think. Go and read encyclopaedias, History books and articles! You are in a Lying Cult that invents doctrines out of their imagination. They need a way to have authority over you JWs since it is from 1914 they got 1919 doctrine. Whenever Watchtower makes a claim, go and verify these claims by doing proper research. That's what the Bible asked you to do. Test what you have been taught to verify it is True. Watchtower keeps disgracing you JWs with these lies! Go and do proper research and stop disgracing yourself in this forum.

achorladey:
Na la cram la pour be the doctrine. We understand how e be . Those are what they carry about as Bible scholarship


Jehovah Again Provides Watchmen to Warn the Wicked

23. What role did C. T. Russell and his associates play?

23 During the years leading up to 1914, Charles Taze Russell and his associates acted as the “messenger” who would “clear up a way” before the Messianic Kingdom was established.b (Mal. 3:1) That group also did the work of a watchman, using the magazine Zion’s Watch Tower and Herald of Christ’s Presence to help warn of God’s judgment and to spread the good news about God’s Kingdom.


Ask am where they got the second fulfilment of Malachi 3:1 dem go run.


They went ahead to harm their beliefs by this obtained from one of their articles titled.... "In the past, our publications often mentioned types and antitypes, but in recent years they have seldom done so. Why is that?"


The Watchtower of September 15, 1950, defined a “type” and an “antitype” this way: “A type is an image or representation of something that will come to pass at some future time. The antitype is the reality of the thing which the type represents. The type may properly be called a shadow; the antitype, the reality.”


If such interpretations seem far-fetched, you can understand the dilemma. Humans cannot know which Bible accounts are shadows of things to come and which are not. The clearest course is this: Where the Scriptures teach that an individual, an event, or an object is typical of something else, we accept it as such. Otherwise, we ought to be reluctant to assign an antitypical application to a certain person or account if there is no specific Scriptural basis for doing so.


Where in the scriptures is Russell and associates TYPES and ANTITYPES of the messenger of the covenant? Once they cannot answer this, the whole foundation crumbles

And the Idiot Mad Max and his dullard associate SeniorMan715 are busy denying their founder that laid the foundations of his Cult's doctrines. I am sure they don't even understand how Types and Antitypes came to be. One Man just invented a teaching from nowhere based on assumptions and occultic knowledge and you just accept the teaching without thinking. They don't even know that Watchtower claimed to have gotten rid of Antitype teachings yet for some strange reason they never want to get rid of the 1914 teaching which is a product of Type and Antitype teachings. In fact, this Type and Antitype issue is the reason why there is so much confusion in that Cult when it comes to doctrines. JWs can't even keep up with the confusion. I remember when Watchtower used to teach that what happened around Naomi and Ruth foreshadows the removal of the Holy Spirit by Jesus. Same Antitype nonsense.

What is their business if they don't understand the teaching? As long as Watchtower says it's True then it must be True. Blind obedience with no critical thinking skills.

SeniorMan715, you are not answering the questions. Where did your founder, Charles Taze Russell, get the 1914 doctrine from? Remember Russell taught that Truth from Satan is just as True as Truth stated by God and it must be accepted. Where did he get this "1914 truth" from?

MaxInDHouse:
Funny atheists want to kill themselves over the belief of faithful people!

Mad MaxInDHouse, be proud of your disgusting history. I know Russell disgraced you JWs by being a false prophet, a fraud by claiming that his Miracle wheat can cure ailments and duped many people, by teaching that Truth from Satan should be accepted and that he was a Freemason. I know you are also embarrassed over his Adultery which made his wife to divorce him. But that doesn't mean he is not your founder. Just as the Bible mentions both good and bad in the Bible, learn to accept the good and bad of your Cult's history. You can't change history. That's what Watchtower doesn't know. If you continue to hide your dirty laundry, people will bring out everything for the public to see. Russell will forever be your founder. There is nothing you can do about that. You choose to join the Cult, so, accept everything good and bad that comes with it. And accept it with pride!

MaxInDHouse:
Don't kill yourself with HBP o!

Mad MaxInDHouse, be proud of your disgusting history. I know Russell disgraced you JWs by being a false prophet, a fraud by claiming that his Miracle wheat can cure ailments and duped many people, by teaching that Truth from Satan should be accepted and that he was a Freemason. I know you are also embarrassed over his Adultery which made his wife to divorce him. But that doesn't mean he is not your founder. Just as the Bible mentions both good and bad in the Bible, learn to accept the good and bad of your Cult's history. You can't change history. That's what Watchtower doesn't know. If you continue to hide your dirty laundry, people will bring out everything for the public to see. Russell will forever be your founder. There is nothing you can do about that. You choose to join the Cult, so, accept everything good and bad that comes with it. And accept it with pride!

MaxInDHouse:
Don't kill yourself with HBP o!

Mad MaxInDHouse, be proud of your disgusting history. I know Russell disgraced you JWs by being a false prophet, a fraud by claiming that his Miracle wheat can cure ailments and duped many people, by teaching that Truth from Satan should be accepted and that he was a Freemason. I know you are also embarrassed over his Adultery which made his wife to divorce him. But that doesn't mean he is not your founder. Just as the Bible mentions both good and bad in the Bible, learn to accept the good and bad of your Cult's history. You can't change history. That's what Watchtower doesn't know. If you continue to hide your dirty laundry, people will bring out everything for the public to see. Russell will forever be your founder. There is nothing you can do about that. You choose to join the Cult, so, accept everything good and bad that comes with it. And accept it with pride!

SeniorMan715:
8-)

SeniorMan715, SeniorMan715, SeniorMan715, in order for the prophecy concerning Nebuchadnezzar to lead to 1914, there must be a 2nd fulfillment of that prophecy. But the verses you showed contain no second fulfillment. It only described what will happen to King Nebuchadnezzar. Where did you get the 2nd fulfillment from? From your imagination? Do you even understand this doctrine? Most JWs don't understand it.

MaxInDHouse:
When Jesus told his audience that John the baptist is the Elijah they're expecting did he quote anywhere the name "John the baptist" was mentioned?

Well the one and only evidence Jesus had to validate what he said is the PERFORMANCE of both himself and John the baptist even the Christ wasn't called Jesus in the prophecy but "EMMANUEL"

So if anyone wants to argue on letters they will continue for no benefits {2Corinthians 3:6} but when we talk about PERFORMANCE {Matthew 7:16-18} the truth will become obvious! John 8:32; James 2:18-26

Shut up your mouth! Who are you to deny your founder? Who do you think invented your 1914 doctrine? It was Russell. When he saw that the world didn't end in 1914 as he predicted, he made a change to say that 1914 is actually the date of Jesus's invisible presence. Why are you JWs still sticking to that teaching if Russell isn't your founder? It's too late Mad MaxInDHouse! Russell is your founder. It has been recorded everywhere in history. Don't be embarrassed to claim him. He is the reason you are a JW. No amount of long useless sermon you type on Nairaland can change the fact that Russell is the Oga of your Cult and he is still directing your Cult from the dead according to Watchtower. You can't erase history. Even ordinary Google tells you Russell is your founder. Nothing you can do about it.

SeniorMan715:
Clearly stated in the bible, but not for people like you who lack understanding

SeniorMan715, SeniorMan715, SeniorMan715, in order for the prophecy concerning Nebuchadnezzar to lead to 1914, there must be a 2nd fulfillment of that prophecy. But the verses you showed contain no second fulfillment. It only described what will happen to King Nebuchadnezzar. Where did you get the 2nd fulfillment from? From your imagination? Do you even understand this doctrine? Most JWs don't understand it.

SeniorMan715:
Russell isn't my founder neither does he know me.

SeniorMan715, you are not answering the questions. Where did your founder, Charles Taze Russell, get the 1914 doctrine from? Remember Russell taught that Truth from Satan is just as True as Truth stated by God and it must be accepted. Where did he get this "1914 truth" from?

SeniorMan715, you are not answering the questions. Where did your founder, Charles Taze Russell, get the 1914 doctrine from? Remember Russell taught that Truth from Satan is just as True as Truth stated by God and it must be accepted. Where did he get this "1914 truth" from?

SeniorMan715:
Courz you lack understanding

SeniorMan715, SeniorMan715, SeniorMan715, in order for the prophecy concerning Nebuchadnezzar to lead to 1914, there must be a 2nd fulfillment of that prophecy. But the verses you showed contain no second fulfillment. It only described what will happen to King Nebuchadnezzar. Where did you get the 2nd fulfillment from? From your imagination? Do you even understand this doctrine? Most JWs don't understand it.

[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=118101897][/quote]The one and only organisation that protects Pedophiles and punishes Victims for exposing them.

The one and only organization that breeds Homosexuals and covers Crime.

The one and only organization that participates in politics and and has shares in Military War equipments.

MaxInDHouse:
No more WARS!
Russia and Ukraine would have been at peace if everyone are JWs!

The one and only organisation that protects Pedophiles and punishes Victims for exposing them.

The one and only organization that breeds Homosexuals and covers Crime.

The one and only organization that participates in politics and and has shares in Military War equipments.

Kobojunkie:
Please stop engaging the other in what is obviously a red herring - a typical JW argument tactic here on Nairaland - so we can get some answers from the one.

SeniorMan715, do you want to create another thread specifically for this topic where you make clear your belief so we can understand how you justify it even with no real scriptural backing?

Don't even bother. SeniorMan715 is a dunce and a Bible student of JWs. He knows nothing. He is still learning and will not provide you with anything tangible. All what he has posted so far is what you will get. His response is typical of most JWs on this topic. They can't explain 1914. I just want to show SeniorMan715 that he knows nothing and he won't be able to defend lies without looking stupid.. I don't care if I have to quote him 100 times.

MaxInDHouse:
The one and only organization that's free from politics and military services! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

The one and only organisation that protects Pedophiles and punishes Victims for exposing them.

The one and only organization that breeds Homosexuals and covers Crime.

The one and only organization that participates in politics and and has shares in Military War equipments.

SeniorMan715:
Because you lack understanding.

SeniorMan715, SeniorMan715, SeniorMan715, in order for the prophecy concerning Nebuchadnezzar to lead to 1914, there must be a 2nd fulfillment of that prophecy. But the verses you showed contain no second fulfillment. It only described what will happen to King Nebuchadnezzar. Where did you get the 2nd fulfillment from? From your imagination? Do you even understand this doctrine? Most JWs don't understand it.

MaxInDHouse:
Matthew 7:6

Look at your fruits below. Attorney General don tire for una matter. Tell me, why is Watchtower punishing Child Sexual Abuse victims for reporting to the police? Was that what Jehovah aka Satan advised Watchtower to do?

SeniorMan715 and Mad MaxInDHouse. You are arguing to support 1914 doctrine but you are also rejecting your founder that formed the same 1914 doctrine. Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Una foolishness no be small thing at all!

I have never come across such stupidity in my life!

Four pages yet no tangible response!

MaxInDHouse:
Go and ask your brothers in da lord and start worshiping with them. I'm sure you will be happy at least!

Explain this verse Mad MaxInDHouse.

SeniorMan715:
Explain what you understand from the verse let me help you understand u lack it

Hahahahahahahahahahaha. What a Disgrace!

SeniorMan715, SeniorMan715, SeniorMan715, in order for the prophecy concerning Nebuchadnezzar to lead to 1914, there must be a 2nd fulfillment of that prophecy. But the verses you showed contain no second fulfillment. It only described what will happen to King Nebuchadnezzar. Where did you get the 2nd fulfillment from? From your imagination? Do you even understand this doctrine? Most JWs don't understand it.

MaxInDHouse:
No just kill yourself with HBP!

Since you can't explain The Lie 1914, explain this Bible verse.

MaxInDHouse:
What is the name of your church?

What are they doing in our neighbourhood now?

If you can't answer the argument is fruitless!

Explain this Bible verse below.

MaxInDHouse:
What is the name of your church?

What are they doing in our neighbourhood now?

If you can't answer the argument is fruitless!

Shut up your mouth! Which performance? This one below abi? Where Watchtower is helping pedophiles to sexually abuse kids or where JWs have found lies in your Cult and are running away from these countries below? Which performance? Instead of you to explain 1914 and why you choose to accept it but reject the founder of that doctrine, you are here typing imaginary rubbish!

SeniorMan715:
We are getting there
are you done reading ? Let me give you the second reading

SeniorMan715, SeniorMan715, SeniorMan715, Explain to us how you arrived at 1914 directly from the Bible. You must show us the whole Calculation process directly from the Bible. The Calculation and the corresponding dates must be there for us to take you seriously! This is what you get for following a Lying Cult!

SeniorMan715:
We are getting there
are you done reading ? Let me give you the second reading

SeniorMan715, SeniorMan715, SeniorMan715, in order for the prophecy concerning Nebuchadnezzar to lead to 1914, there must be a 2nd fulfillment of that prophecy. But the verses you showed contain no second fulfillment. It only described what will happen to King Nebuchadnezzar. Where did you get the 2nd fulfillment from? From your imagination? Do you even understand this doctrine? Most JWs don't understand it.

Do you know type and antitype?

MaxInDHouse:
When there's a difficult issue arguments won't solve the problem but performance that's why Jesus said "by their FRUITS you will know them" {Matthew 7:16-18} so there's no need for fruitless arguments present a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses at least let's see the group that's practicing what Jesus taught better than JWs!

Shut up your mouth! Which performance? This one below abi? Where Watchtower is helping pedophiles to sexually abuse kids or where JWs have found lies in your Cult and are running away from these countries below? Which performance? Instead of you to explain 1914 and why you choose to accept it but reject the founder of that doctrine, you are here typing imaginary rubbish!

SeniorMan715:
When did the Babylonian King destroyed jerelusem ?

But you have disgraced yourself now. What knowledge have you shared so far other than lies? Your fellow JW Mad MaxInDHouse is just watching you disgrace yourself because even he can't explain the doctrine.

SeniorMan715, SeniorMan715, SeniorMan715, in order for the prophecy concerning Nebuchadnezzar to lead to 1914, there must be a 2nd fulfillment of that prophecy. But the verses you showed contain no second fulfillment. It only described what will happen to King Nebuchadnezzar. Where did you get the 2nd fulfillment from? From your imagination? Do you even understand this doctrine? Most JWs don't understand it.

Do you know type and antitype?

MaxInDHouse:
Even if that is settled a goat will give you another reason why it won't work with Christ's brothers.

Mad MaxInDHouse, explain this verse below.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus sent us to the lost sheep of the house of Israel {Matthew 10:6} not goats so when i find a lost sheep i will TEACH but as for you go and worship with your kind!

Mad MaxInDHouse, you are arguing for 1914 doctrine but you are denying the inventor of that doctrine!

Can you see how you JWs don't know what you are doing? Oya, explain this verse below.