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royallinx:
Mr sexkillz,  I guess your name says alot about U,  Anyway I dint insult you in any way but its OK. I come across people everyday and I try to leave them better than I met them. All am sayin is dont speak about what you dont know of,  Try to get info b u speak. Years ago I had spoken this same words (with less frugality though, cos I am a child of God) against this church until I decided to go and see. And you cant compare the former and the new  life in any way, spiritually, mentally, physically. So I can understand why majority say wat they say cos I ve been there,  castigating people based on hearsay

And if u think winners are paupers,  let me inform you more. As at last year cannaanland parked average of 20,000 cars (not people) each sunday,  and bearing in mind that most people park their car at home and use the church bus because of traffic, U can do the maths. And to answer your questions,  not all winners are rich cos we receive new people everyday and though they might come poor, beaten, batterred etc,  theyhave a choice to apply the word of God and change their story. Any word practising winner is reflective of our identity if he truly is a doer. so its a choice,  if u see any one who tells u he attended for years and nothing happened he should check himself cos the word works, millions have testified.

Also the first jet was bought in 1996, so its not just an issue of recent day affluence as portrayed by reporters who sees the bishop as a cheap shot of making news. And you can Go to the red cross and UN office nearest to u to see if they can give you the list of relief contributors to the IKEJA cantonment, War in Sudan, Liberia etc,  we are a heavily giving people but we dont showcase that on TV.
Even UN commended winners in 1995,  if I can get a link I will post it for you,  Point am making s that good tins are not celebrated but wen it seem as if one bad news surfaces, you see people running to spread it.

The 2nd university - LANDMARK- started last year with abt 4000 students on scholarship,  some 100%, some 50% etc based on performance in the test. Most of these are winners members cos u must present a letter from your local pastor to qualify. so if a member speaks evil of us,  then he is not a member. And am not sayin there might not be few exceptions of grudges,  there must be cos u cant satisfy everyone, even Jesus neva did.

All said,  Winners or no winners,  bishop David Oyedepo or not,  the Gospel is this,  Believe in God and live a life of dominion,  Jesus is Lord.
And y not try and attend the nearest winner chapel come next sunday and see d power of God at work,  atleast there is no harm in tryin,  I be prayin for you, the holy spirit is ever ready,
Thank you and God bless. Stay Inspired and be somebody instead of backbiting,  thats y its called back -biting,  cos u are always behind d person u are back biting,  if u are ahead u hardly notice him. Am OUT

u r a true son of ur fada!!!! ur even more informed dan me dat went 2 covenant!! God bless u bruv!

grabdbull:
I understand your position. The thing is, I do not believe in just throwing insults, and if I criticize someone's position, I should not be seen as also being guilty of his crime. Most people here just throw insults when they have nothing constructive to add to an argument, so I can't just tow that same line. Don't let them get you angry.

true bruv, u show wisdom and leadership! i'm impressed! kudos!

freepeople:
I don't engage deranged bright dude in random bickering. I insist on you taking your drug before I engage you. Maybe you'll see the reason why you shouldn't donate your money to a swindler when your head clears.

hahahahaha!!!! u mst hv gone thru a dictionary b4 u answered me. lmao!! if i donate my moni 2 one, is it any of ur f**kin business?? and mind u, i am a product of his university and an active member in d church and i say we r nt complaining even if he buys 1,000,000 jets!! so STFU!! and go back 2 ur pauper pastor nd ur mediocre life!

grabdbull:
Has the Pastor indoctrinated his members to the extent that they now go out and cause harm to innocent people? If not, his teachings do not harm non-members.

Do his members feel edified when they listen to him, or does he have a positive impact on their lives? The winners' guys I know claim they have been taught about prosperity and gained abundantly from such teachings. If so, he is doing something great.

Has one, even one, winners' chapel member complained about the jets? I haven't heard of that anywhere. Someone even claimed on this thread that there are no jets.

If this is the true position, then I see no reason why some are crying more than the bereaved.

Yes, I do not believe Christianity supports extravagance, but it does not give me the right to call an innocent man a thief. Some people are just plain uncouth.

pls!!! dnt use such soft words on dese asswipes!!! dey r jst blind 2 d reality of life. did d aircrafts he bought affect u in any way?? this is shear boredom nd stupidity!!

freepeople:
[size=13pt]Seems like you are off your med[/size], 
[size=13pt]Stop making fun of yourself[/size]

so out of all i sed, dis was all u cud pick?? i mite b off my med but u r certainly not bright. its makes it worse if u actually saw d four walls of a school.

pls bro, tell me wen d price comes down to 70k!

royallinx:
You guys should stop commenting without facts,  This is the same guy that wrote convincingly that pastor Sam Adeyemi has a jet and people believed until the pastor came out to refute the lies,  Stop saying what you dont Know. Bishop Oyedepo has written over sixty books with over 5 million copies printed as at 2008. How many have you written or sold?
There are only two aircrafts,  one in Lagos for the Bishop's use and the other in abuja for the vice (Bishop Abioye) and other associates,  get your facts rights.
And for a man who visited atleast two nations of Africa every week in the year 2009, preaching and planting churches and still ministers on sunday in Ota, you dont need a prophet to know he needs a jet ( Bearing in mind that flight to some Africa countries is once per week and no direct flight), Moreso, this jets has been used to carry ministry materials, free books and bibles to countries in Asia and Africa that needs them.  Including others I dont know about.

You guys should just stop the beefing and get your facts right. Ministry has gone beyond ASSES,  Even Jesus and His disciples used ships for crusade, read your bibles and dont be religious abt it, 

I know after this some people will still attack me,  so bring it on,  But most especially, get a life,  the man is a mentor to millions (including me, I was stuggling with sin, poverty, sickness etc b4 I came under his mentorship, today am a testimony, watch out),  how many people have you inspired around you. Do some thing for urself and stop talking abt people for once.

Stay Inspired

bro, it shows d kind of mentality dat dey have, dey mst b worshippin in a hut nd dier pastors will tell dem all sorts of crap dat any pastor dat lives big is looting! lmfao! Abject Poverty Mediocre Mentality!!! (APMP)!!!! bunch of illeterate saddists dat hv access to a computer! *smh*

so bcus he is a pastor, he shud b poor?? wat stupidity!

is ur jet missing??why nt leave d man alone! his followers r blind and dey r making it. u r here criticising nd u r suffering! dnt get ur asses down to his church 4 deliverance! mschewww!!!

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pteck87:
pls ma BB isnt connecting to the servc provider,  i cant check ma account balance nor recharge ma fone, as in #124# is not going neither *556# on the BB,  pls what can i do,  its a BB Tour

goto options, den mobile network, press d menu button and run diagnostic test, afta dat, try it again nd it will work but afta sum tym it'll stop again, so evry tym u wana recharge or check balance, jst run d diagnostic test,

i hope dat helps

hey bro, u jst sold a bb bold to me at ikeja. thnks alot bruv, but one tin i wana point out, weneva i wana call any1 4rm my contacts list, it keeps adding +086 to d numba and finally dials den a chinese voice starts talkin. Pls dat's d only problem av found out about d fone and i'll b very happy if u can help me out.

aieromon:
@OP
Don't fall and buy a stolen torch 'cos the price you're quoting is outrageously low.
Thanks

oh, thnks bruv. i fink i'll go 4 bold 2 then.

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montelik:
^^ D fact that you don't like d boy or think that Messi is better than him is causing you to over react. Did you read his actual comments.

Here is what he actually said,
He was asked a question about d strike force of d team and he said his feelings. How is that a lack of maturity. Surely if what he said is a sign of immaturity and lacking manners, then pretty much every player (including Messi) asked about d squad of his team will be guilty. Please read d article and don't just react to d headline.

u r right, i ddnt read d article, but he shud hv sed he is very okay wif d fowards dan sayin he dosent tink dey nid to sign any more players. thats d job of d coach. His opinion wud hav been beta if he had sed, "the fowards are great! i luv working wif dem" instead of dat. y d "we r hapi wif d line-up as it already is"? is he talkin on behalf evry1 in madrid nw?

If i was in Adebayor's shoes, i wudnt take it likely!

dis guy at 26, is still so immature, y wud u tell a fellow player dat a club dosent nid him? is it in his power to decide who needs wat? no wonder he keeps fallin to d boss (messi).
i know Adebayor is hopeless too, but it is none of ronaldo's business! stupid mannerless player! mscheeww!

ok bro, bt d bold 3 gold comes wif all d accessories rite?

its quite cheap bro but isnt dere a way dat d price can b lowered a little? am rily interested.

sori bro i have 40k cash nw. dats if ur interested!

bro, i hav a very clean tour wif me can we exchange + 10k for d gold bold 3?

d guy is basically stoopid!!! if u've followd him on twitter, u'll undastand wat i'm sayin. immature foool!!!

lets leave all dese messi-ronaldo talks!! d ronaldo fans themselves know messi is beta dan ronaldo. lets talk about messi and maradona!! MESSI IS D BEST PLAYER EVER!!!! yes!! i said SO!!!! Maradona is a Legend but MEssi is a Phenom!!

I ddnt watch Maradona during dose days he was a 'god' but wat i knw is dat futball wasnt wat it used to b nw,, those days, a single player cud dribble d whole crowd nd score but try it in dis our modern tym mayb he wudnt b on a stretcher!!!!

But messi is very close 2 doin dese tins in dis our present tym!! he myt not hv achieved as much as maradona but messi is jst 24 nd makin dese waves only show hw gifted he is,

Pele shud go nd sit down joor!!

MESSI is d best eva!!!! he shud hv a book!!

but y'all shudnt gemme wrong! my best player eva personally, is RONALDINHO!!!!

PurestBoy:
[size=16pt]Messi had 53 goals, 26 assists last season
Iniesta had 11 goals 9 assists
Xavi had 9 goals 10 assists

So anyone who says Messi depend on Xavi + iNIESTA to perform is a Reetard and dumfus[/size]

Ucheosefoh:
I take Messi any time any day cus he is a big match performer always out performing Ronaldo in every encounter between their teams so does rating Ronaldo above Messi I will like u people to asnwer these questions how many trophies or medals have Ronaldo win for his country both at youth level and at this present level. Messi have won the under 20 world cup and olimpic gold medal for Agentina, the fact remains that both of them are flobs at their respective national teams. Then when I hear people saying that without the midfield pair of xavi and iniesta that messi and barca will not perform but I have read an interview when Barca coach admit that Barca dont play to their best when ever Messi is not in that team that they struggle to even win small teams without Messi, which means that Barca need Messi as much as Messi need Barca. Can Barca win Real Madrid five zero without Messi? Can Barca win Arsenal last two seasons four one without Messi? Can Barca win Madrid two zero at the champions league semi final with without Messi? Can Barca win the league and champions league without Messi? The answers is CAPITAL NO and their is no record that say that Ronaldo have win more trophies and awards and even score mores goals that Messi or that he has perform more than Messi on many of their encounters. The only excuse Ronaldo fans used is because he has play for three clubs in his career  but they cant say that Xavi, Giggs Maldini, Scholes John Terry etc are not good players cus they have play for only one club in their career. Please lets rate with facts not with sentiments pleassss.       erform but I have read an interview when Barca coach admit that Barca dont play to their best when ever Messi is not in that team that they struggle to even win small teams without Messi, which means that Barca need Messi as much as Messi need Barca. Can Barca win Real Madrid five zero without Messi? Can Barca win Arsenal last two seasons four one without Messi? Can Barca win Madrid two zero at the champions league semi final with without Messi? Can Barca win the league and champions league without Messi? The answers is CAPITAL NO and their is no record that say that Ronaldo have win more trophies and awards and even score mores goals that Messi or that he has perform more than Messi on many of their encounters. The only excuse Ronaldo fans used is because he has play for three clubs in his career  but they cant say that Xavi, Giggs Maldini, Scholes John Terry etc are not good players cus they have play for only one club in their career. Please lets rate with facts not with sentiments pleassss.

tell dem ooh

emmatok:
What is all this talk about  xavi and iniesta.

Were they part of the fantastic four of Henry, Ronaldinho, Samuel Eto'o and Lionel Messi ?

The support Messi is getting is  due to the Manager's technical abilities and not the players.

The current Argentine team don't have such Manager.

correct talk! make dem dey talk lyk say dem no dey use dier brain! dem jst dey watch futball without undastanding it! mscheww

most of dese pple talk based on all dese manager games dey play; football manager and d rest! FYI most of dese games arent real! dnt get deceived!

seunspice:
My pals, lets not forget something. This Barcelona is not just a team, it is an institution and time after time any player that does not fit into the institution is shipped out. There is a perceived Catalan way of life. These players are rich but don't flaunt it, they are talented but ain't proud, they are pilling accolades and results but they are not loud about it. it is just the catalan way. Players who have problems in this team if you check are players who are not ready to conform to the lifestyle. Ibra would never have been a perfect fit because his ego is second only to C Ronaldo. Eto started having issues after his 'Madrid bastards' rant (Barca might hate the Madrid team/setup but they wont insult a team that had Zidane, Figo, Beckham, Raul, Ramos, Carlos, Salgado and Ronald in public). Players like Kluivert, Rivaldo and Ronaldinho etc had been shipped out at one point or the other for non conformance.
So for a closely guarded unit as this with probably the highest level of unity in any soccer team you can only go up from there as a player.
Why will Barca be so insistent on bringing Fabregas back in? they know what has been invested in the player while in their youth ranks and probably believe he is the natural successor to xavi. No other team believes more in the home grown talent cliche in Europe, Lets not deviate too much though, Barca are the best team to ever kick the ball and thus their players are shoulder high above the rest. Messi might be a shade different out of the Barca shirt\team but he still is probably untouchable as we speak.
Any team that makes United look so ordinary and turns the likes of Park, Valencia, Giggs and Carrick to passengers in a game deserve all the accolades they get. it doesn't get better than that.

bro u r too much, honestly, cud u make sense wif wat dademola wrote? d question he is asking is wat my 10 yr old cousin, who dosent knw anytin apart 4rm messi and Ronaldo askd me! can u imagine?? my younger bro is laffn here sef!

he has turned messi into sum sort of game character dat goes into any team and scores goals! he compared pique to Jonny Evans! Jesus Christ!! i wonder if dis guy watches futball at all. Pique dat won d highest amount of balls last season! even more dan puyol! (shaking my head).
He further talkd about DM's being played as defenders, isnt it common knowledge dat DM's hv a defensive role to play? i mean, Marquez was converted 2 a defender, Yaya toure, who played defence in d finals against man utd in 2009, mascherano, busquets. y cant defensive midfielders play as defenders?? wasnt Kompany, nigel de jong DM's b4 they were converted? wasnt Vermalen a DM also? if a coach has found out dat a DM is more active as a defender, y nt use him as 1?
Gabi Milito dat has been battling fitness problems since 2009 shud b used ahead of a fit player dat cud defend?? u see wat i am sayin? if not 4 mascherano's bravery against bendtner against arsenal (incase he has forgotten), wud we hv won d Champs league?? was mascherano a defender? mscheww!

It was even d Ibrahimovic's comment dat annoyed me! he was 1 of our top scorers! hw can pedro, a winger, his shirt was still threatened at dat tym, score more goals dan d top striker in a team?? and judging from d various clear chances he missed, was sure dat he ddnt fit!

was barca made by xavi and iniesta?? so 4rm wat i can gather 4rm mr dademola's comments is dat if xavi nd iniesta were removed 4rm barca, messi or any oda player will hv a hard tym performing. wat rubbish!! I stil kip on sayin dat barca is a team and evrybody makes d team! even to victor valdez. At least, he has saved us a couple of tyms!

Anyways Man utd rules!! u guys hv d season again as chelsea has decided to employ a teenager as coach! lwkmd!!

dademola:
united we stand, brova!!!man utd rules(even though barca dey trash us wit ease)!!!! u didnt hav to say d ronaldo-messi swap. u shld jst hav sed d messi-david silva swap. i've always sed dt if someone like chamakh( wit all due respect to arsenal fans) goes to barca, he wld shine like a million stars! look @ pedro rodriguez. d guy doesnt strike me as an outstanding plyr(he may be a good one) bt look @ his accomplishments at barca!!!! look @ pique too!!! because barca and spain usually dominate their games,and he has virtually nofin to do, sme pple say he is d best defender in europe!!!!!!!  imagine if u havnt seen messi play for barca and your first evaluation of him has to come in an argentina shirt!! wnt u smack anybody dt tells u messi is d best in d world? POINT IS DAT BARCA XAVI AND INIESTA BRING OUT D BEST IN MESSI, PERIOD!!barcelona!!!!!!!!! 10xs for making some players look EXTRA-ORDINARY!!!

u see d reason y i cant argue wif u?? wen u get to make points, always read thru wat u hav written so dat u dnt mis-yarn.

now u sed if chamakh comes to barcelona, he wud shine, wat happened to Ibrahimovic?? wat happened to hleb? y did we hv to sell bojan and buy alexis sanchez? u r not a sooth sayer to say who will shine at where!! And incase u ddnt know, Pedro startd out as a youth team player b4 he had his shirt in barcelona. Can u imagine wat is actually comin out 4rm ur mouth?
Players lyk Deco, Ronaldinho and even Eto were sold 4 dese guys, if pedro wasnt an outstanding player, he wudnt b in d 1st team in barcelona and dats a fact.

oh! i finally get it! u r a man utd fan! well unlike my man utd friends nd "seunspice", u belong to d set of man utd fans dat always see tins in d negative aspect of ur rival clubs. well am a barcelona fan and i hav a huge respect 4 ur guys especially Rooney and Giggs! Awesome players!!

But please we r a team! 1 or 2 players dnt make a team. xavi's presence is greatly felt as well as iniesta's presence, as well as Dani Alves's presence, even up to Victor Valdez!

u also mentioned Pique! can u honestly compare d form of Pique to ur defender Ferdinard?? gimme a break!

Messi has under-performed in Argentina but dat dosent give u d right to say dat xavi nd iniesta r behind his success. Instead d Argies r behing his failure! y do dey kip employin Argentines as coaches, y cant dey try foreign coaches? It seems u dnt watch futball, u jst perch on wat pple say around u! wat has ur top striker Rooney, achieved in an England shirt? yet to me, he is one of the top 4 strikers in d premiership!

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