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seunspice:
@Danraska,
It is a little known fact in football that the midfield is the engine room of any team. Thus a midfield with Xavi and Iniesta ( the 2 players with the highest ratio of completed passed over the past 3 years) would only dictate the play and make whoever plays in the attack look good. I am not saying Messi is not a good player. He is however not as good as people make him look to be. He's got skills, a very good balance and burst of space, his ability to go past players is second only to the peak of the Ronaldinho days but believe me, we have seen Messi without Xavi and Iniesta and he didnt look as good.
You mentioned the Man U and Real midfielders, Your footie mind should have made you realize that the Man U midfield would never be as good as this Barca midfield (and i am an ardent Man U fan) even with 11 versions of a youthfull Giggs and Scholes in there. Barca has taught us that crisp short definitive passes wreck more havoc than long passes which United's midfield uses to devastating effects in the EPL. The Real midfield in effect has great players in it, but how long have these guys played together for? You mentioned Lass Diara who is not a regular, Kaka who had an Injury blighted season, Khedira , a player in his first season, same with Ozil. Di maria who was so frightened at the first el classico he hardly put a foot right. You can't compare these players to a team that has players who have been together from their teens and only inject pros at positions that need outsourcing.
You have made your point and i agree with you to an extent. i made my point as well and listed what i feel Messi and Ronaldo need to do to be at the pinnacle of the game. They may both have won the champions league and domestic leagues, but neither has won a senior world cup or a continental trophy from their federations yet.
Nuff said

well said brova, well said!! now i agree wif u completely!! u see we r on d same page! not lyk sum blind critics dat jst want 2 pull him down.
Nice comment!

Jarus:
Not necessarily. All he needs is score 70%(miss 30%) in every course. You can still score A and not know everything!

Meanwhile, the 'stark olodo' to 'genius' story get as e be o

go and read d Ben Carson's story! u'll knw he was a stark olodo too

its sickening 2 hear our so-called "graduates" talk in dis manner! I am a covenant graduate and if u hvnt passed thru dat school, believe me, u can say rubbish about dat school based on wat u hear!

for a student to pass out wif a 4.99 CGPA, its not a joke at all, and whoever has doubts about it shud go nd lick lime or get a form and enroll in C.U.

u r praising ur federal universities! where u bribe lecturers and all sorts, absurd comments! most of dese pple hv neva been to C.U itself! No wonder y companies dont want to employ graduates 4rm sum of dese federal universities! mscheww!

haters! ask urself dis question!! no offence oo! but if u had d money, will u enroll in a federal university

messi has understood barcelona's gamestyle very well, compared to Argentina where dey get to play once in a while, he is not a magician dat will change d mentality of his players. Argentina right nw, is a bunch of young star-studed individual shiners. There is no team work! and how do u get dat, by building d team from scratch and over tym, d chemistry begins to show forth!! d sacking of coaches isnt helping matters.

For now! messi is d greatest player ever! dere is no argument! And wait! who is maradona?? can u compare d game play dose days 2 d one nw??

In those days futball was played 4 d passion but rite nw, it is played for d MONEY!!! it is strictly business nw, and d pace and strength has increased overtym! So 4 a player to do dese great tins in dis our tym, den he shud b d best ever! BUT dont geme wrong! maradona is a very very talented player, one of d best!

Any1 sayin dat Messi shud go to anoda club b4 he is regarded as d best is totally shallow in his approach to futball! so bcus Maldini, Giggs, and Raul (b4 he transferred 2 shalke) were not gud players??
And Anelka and Milito shud b regarded as d best players ever nw, since they hv performed in all leagues dey've been to. mscheww!!!!

seunspice:
Copa America 2011 is one to be quickly forgotten by the book makers. All the big teams fell and most of the big boys messed up. What happened to Dani Alves? Messi is no doubt a great player,  possibly ranking with the best there ever was but ,  much of his greatness is embedded in the Barca factor. Swap Messi for Ronaldo today and see what wonders Ronaldo would perform in a Barca shirt. The only problem with Ronnie is his attitude (Oh! ain't that lad haughty?).
Messi has been over hyped because of his achievements at Barca, i even read on another thread here on NL where an ignoramus claimed that Messi was a regular at Barca before Xavi and Iniesta even made the team. Such stupidity! Both guys (Ronaldo and Messi) are just developing at their mid 20s and they are not yet at their peaks (mark my words). The best players in the world are Xavi and Iniesta. They were both in the world cup winning spanish team and have been the crux of the Barca team since Ronaldinho left.
Also CR7 has proved himself in at least 2 leagues (England and Spain) topping the goal scorers chart in both leagues and practically carrying his teams on his shoulders so far.

To be as good as they could be, Ronaldo and Messi need to  sort out the following

Messi: The need to prove himself to outside of the Barca shirt. We could forgive the 2010 world cup flop but is this Copa performance a coincidence? A starling performance in 2014 would secure his place in folklore for life.
Ronaldo: Pride robs players of their full potentials as in the case of talents like Cantona etc. he needs to be more of a team player and subdue his ego. (with these two, he would be undoubtedly the best)

bros, u hav facts and i wont rule u out lyk dat! but i nid to ask u, Iniesta had a bad season last season, and ddnt play frequently due to injuries! he had 29 apperances in d league most of which he came on as a sub, and messi scored 47 goals! was he instrumental in messi's goal scoring season??
It took 4 yrs 4 Ronaldo to adjust to Man utd, and please, if Messi was in Ronaldo shoes, havin, Rooney, Giggs, Scholes, Tevez, and Park wif him, he wud have done even more dan Ronaldo! C'mon dese guys r legends, and it was bcus of Ronaldo's individual gamestyle dat limited his performance at man utd, though he scored 42 goals.

Ask ursef! if u manage to score 42 goals in a season and u r bought 4 80million pounds 2 d richest club in d world, packed wif world class young players, do u nid a soothsayer to tell u dat u will perform? Obviously NOT! I still stand on d fact dat any player will do well tagged with other players lyk Benzema Higuain, Kaka, Alonso,Di maria, Ozil, Lass Diarra, Khedira, d list is endless!

And i can confidently say dat, Messi would hav even scored more dan him given d fact dat Ronaldo scored almost 9 goals in d space of 3 games, wen messi was being rested and ddnt play full tym ahead of d champs league final!

you also claim dat wifout xavi nd iniesta, messi will not perform, but i keep asking! he scored 53 goals all season, how many of d goals were assisted by xavi and iniesta?? basically since he cant do wifout dese two, dey shud hav a huge share of d assists from d goals messi scored. For instance, he scored 53, xavi and iniesta shud hold lyk 80% assist of dose goals innit?

Now as at d end of the season,

Assists La Liga CL Copa SSC Total
Messi 20 4 3 0 27
Dani Alves 15 3 2 1 21
Xavi 8 3 4 1 16
Iniesta 5 6 3 1 15
Villa 11 1 1 0 13
Pedro 10 2 1 0 13
Busquet 3 3 0 0 6
Thiago 0 1 4 0 5
Keita 3 0 2 0 5
Bojan 2 0 1 0 3
Adriano 1 2 0 0 3
Maxwell 1 0 0 1 2
Sergi Roberto 1 0 0 0 1
Jeffren 1 0 0 0 1
Affelay 0 1 0 0 1
Nolito 0 0 1 0 1
Fontas 1 0 0 0 1
Pique 1 0 0 0 1
Abidal 0 1 0 0 1

so r u seeing dat d both xavi nd iniesta made only 31 assists within demselves? even if dey both get to giv dose 31 assists 2 messi alone, it will b dat messi even scored 22 goals by himself! mscheww!!

messi cant perform wifout dem and he has d highest number of assists in d league! did he assist his own goals?? mscheww!!

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ddipset!! if u argue wif dis dademola guy again, u mess up! he has dodged all questions askd and he's jst ranting, mscheww!!

dademola:
dat is exactly ma point, brova. Y didnt dos strikers complain of lack of quality wingers or playmakers U say messi isnt a striker. Kk. Is alexis sanchez a striker?? Hw many plyrs do u knw at udinese?? Wen riquelme was runnin d show @ villareal, was he a striker?? Was villareal a heavy-weight in europe @ dt time?? Chei!!! Xavi and iniesta, may d gud lord bless your souls!!

u argue futball wifout putting into consideration, d tactics involved in it! Alexis sanchez, performing well at udinese dosent hv evrytin solely 2 do wif him alone. u dnt knw if d tactics of d team fits him perfectly. y do top players flop? is it bcus dey r not gud? hell NO! its cus dey dnt blend wif the playin style of their new team! Argentina is used to individual gamestyle whichis completely different 4rm barca's gamestyle. Only him alone cant change dat.

my point is dis, Barcelona has a gamestyle dat messi is very used to! He mite not hv perform up to expectation in Argentina but wif tym, he'll blend. he's jst 24

dademola:
hehehehehhe!!! Wen u say new generation, i wanna believe u're refering to d last 15yrs. If i say i wanna start typing wot i knw about a certain wonder boi, who at d age of 21,  ma thumbs wld hurt me a great deal.pls does d name RONALDO De LIMA ring a bell?? I'd b here waitin for u sir!!!

gud answer! he was d european player of d yr at 21, he shone at d 1998 world cup but wif which team, isnt it d brazil dat won 1994 world cup? he had ready made players in d team 2 help him out. And plus he is a striker, he ddnt do it alone! it took him up till 26 yrs 2 win d world cup!

luk at d argentine squad, dey are a bunch of young individual underachievers wif messi jst havn a new line of responsibilities on his shoulders at 24. they dnt hv d world cup xperience. And u kip refering to 2006 world cup, how old was messi wen he played in 2006 world cup? was he even d star at dat tym??

and thnk God u cud not mention alot of dem, even if dey are, dey r very few exceptional ones. u nid experience in d world cup!

dademola:
pls dnt even tow dat line!! Yeah, maradona's first worldcup in 1982 was disastrous, bt wot happened in1986?? Messi's first worldcup was in 2006, wot happened again in 2010?? Pls dnt even compare d 2 of dem as regardin successess wit d national teams

how many players have shone in d world cup in dis new generation of football, at d age of 24?? Answer dat or forever hold ur peace

dademola:
try to reaon a lil deeper, bro! Wen eto was @ mallorca, didnt he score so many goals there?? Hw many plyrs do u knw there? Wasnt it a team dt was alws fightin relegation?? Being able to adjust to diffrent scenarios is an important hallmark of a great plyr. He failed in d last 2 worldcups. He has failed again. If he's your god dt u worship,i wish u luck!! Pls dnt gt me wrong, he's a superb plyr, bt he's over-hyped!! Ronaldo also has shortcomings and deficiencies bt he'd tell u he has being tried and tested @ united and madrid

is messi a striker?? if he was a striker and failed to score, missing chances anyhow, dat will b a different case! u cant compare him to eto! dey r plenty strikers dat score regularly 4 low clubs. Wen Luca Toni scored almost 40 goals 4 fiorentina, did dat make him do d same 4 Italy given he is even a striker?

FYI, d balloon d' or is given 2 d best player of the season, not d most successful player of d season! dere's a difference! him scoring 47 goals dat season makes him d best player in d league and in d season! s only place i can agree wif u, is d part of sneidjer! and mind u, messi had 1 of d highest assists in d world cup so he deserves it! sneidjer shud hv bn on d list but neva d balloon d'or winner! get dat straight! moreover, it is coaches and players dat vote d balloon d'or winner, wen they've seen wat messi has done 2 dem, dey cant jst lie dat he's nt d best

and mind u, ronaldo and messi were both on 53 goals last season so y shud ronaldo win it dis yr? and dnt forget dat messi had d highest assists in la liga! with both d champs league and d la liga trophy!

puttin sentiments asyd, messi is anyone's boss until further notice! over!

dademola:
so, for messi to perform on d international stage, it must be @ an age grade competition, abi?? Hehehhehehhe, if dats d case, ts a BIG SHAME!!! Ronaldo mite not hav done so well for his country bt @ least, he led dem to d final of euro 2004. Take it or leave it, CR7 has proven himself more!! Ts pple like u who obviously voted messi for d last ballon d'or wen he didnt even hav win any trophy. Pls, lets put sentiments aside hia,

he ddnt have any trophy abi? scoring 47 goals in 53 appearances is not enuf 4 u haters abi?

dademola:
CR7 in d comfort zone?? Wot den cld b sed about messi @ barca?? CR7 has performed betta dan messi in dia respective national teams. Yeah, xavi and iniesta were on d bench in 2006, bt brova, can u compare d barcelona of dt time to d present one?? Was it d same slicky passing game dey played den?? Did dey tear teams apart as dey are doin presntly?? Did messi score so many goals and create so many assists as he is doing presntly?? And most impotantly: DID HE RECIEVE SO MUCH ACCOLADES AS HE'S RECIEVING PRESENTLY Tsnt a coincidence o!! D most imprtant plyrs @ barc are xavi and iniesta, period!!!dey played den?? Did dey tear teams apart as dey are doin presntly?? Did messi score so many goals and create so many assists as he is doing presntly?? And most impotantly: DID HE RECIEVE SO MUCH ACCOLADES AS HE'S RECIEVING PRESENTLY Tsnt a coincidence o!! D most imprtant plyrs @ barc are xavi and iniesta, period!!!

nw, take a look at wat u hv sed! r u convinced dat u've made sense wif dis? i am rily tired of all dese talks about a player whose nt performing! look at dat team u call 'Argentina'.
dat team lacks creativity on evry syd, does 1 man make a team,
for a player to b used to a team's playin style and its not clicking in his country, does dat make him less of a gud player.

d ronaldo u r even shouting, has he won a world cup b4 irrespective of d tym??, Messi won U-20 world cup in 2005, so wat achievements does ronaldo have in his country beta dan messi?

in dis Copa America, its nt a new tin dat south American teams always give d top countries (brazil, Argentina, Uruguay etc) tough tym. so hw can u use d copa america to judge??

wen Argentina won their only match in Copa America, 3-0, messi created 7 chances on goal. the highest dat has ever been created by any single player in Copa America history.

dont hate d player, hate d game, he is a football god and nobody can perform at his rate right now.

and u r even comparing ronaldo to him, r dey agemates? how many tyms did Messi outshine Ronaldo wen dey met?

he is d best on d planet at the moment, Ronaldo even knows dat himself!

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for all u haters!!! in d last argentina's match, messi created 7 scoring chances! d highest ever to b created by a single player in copa america! hw about dat

he is a futball god, ronaldo nd mama gee or wateva shud go nd sit down

weldone mobitel!!!! i jst tried dem 4 a month guys!!! dis is d internet 2 use! i hope dis unlimited tin continues 4 a long tym

can c ronaldo do anytin apart 4rm madrid workrate=messi!! u dnt nid to argue dis, except u r jst biased!

in getting money fast, i'll choose futball anytym, dats if u are gud,
imagine if u earn jst 5000 pounds per wk, dats approx 1.25 million naira per wk and 5 million per month. hw many master holders earn dat amount here in nigeria? none!

and dnt nid to b a pro, jst b consistent, and asides training, u r very free to do anytin u lyk instead of doin 9-5!

dats for international futball but for naija futball, omo i no know oh,

Guys!! I am a barcelona fan 4 life! i jst wanted to sample ur opinions about Fabregas being benched if he gets to Barcelona.

personally, i am of d opinion dat he'll first b allowed to play d 1st few (8-10) games, den if he dosent pick up, he'll hv to start from d benches.

wat r ur views?

4llerbuntu:
ehn shebi na mumu like u go dey read and quote fellow mumu.

see the foolishness of u and your mentor wey u dey quote. read the part u bolded again, i dont suppose you are talking about another arsenal different from the one whose shares are so hot someone paid 14,000 pounds per share two weeks ago?
i suppose as an investor arsenal shares are unprofitable in your world?

and its also beyond you and your quoted mentor to figure out that the club making the most money is despite all still highly indebted?

smh.  dont just be opening your mouth. its better when u keep quiet,  at least folks will still think you are smart. instead of opening it and erasing that erroneous view

now oga wats ur 'p' nw? u shudnt cme here and insult any1 jst lyk dat, I dnt know much about arsenal shares but wat i know is dat d sales dey make from jerseys nd stuffs lyk dat hv reduced drastically!
wat Ian wright has claimed, is it a lie? u dudes sold adebayor, kolo toure, and nw u r selling clichy, and its nt even dat dese guys ddnt play well or werent still on form for arsenal, it was jst for d profit! Arsenal is Mancity's feeder club nd stop gettin angry unecessarily!
now it even seems nasri will join, imagine! it shows dat d players even believe dey can win trophies wif man city, common man city. Arsenal will b humiliated dis season if players r not bought or wenger sacked! for Christ sake he has done enuf damage already.

but wen i think of dese tins, i laff, cus wen d coach and d board of arsenal r happy wif tins in d club, who r u to say u r nt satisfied. Wenger is making moni 4 Arsenal and d board is very hapi wif it so i guess dis will continue 4 a very long tym.

ehen! by d way u dudes shud hurry up nd sell fabregas to us sharp sharp! he is trophiless, so he dosent deserve d high moni being placed on him, afterall, its not lyk he is comin to bench any1 in my team.

please! lets get factual here! Taiye Taiwo is 1 of d hottest left backs around!almost evry team wanted him b4 he completed his move to AC milan!

2buff:
@OP you have to understand. We can't trust people who carry your banner of islam.

Take for advantage this last bloke that went to do suicide bombing in Abuja (or was it Maiduguri). He worked at a bank, had a family, 2 daughters, was a muslim, you know, typical "modern muslim" guy that you would grab a beer with. Just all of a sudden he's willfully sending himself and everyone around him to the afterlife in the name of his demon god.

HOW THE HECK am I supposed to trust y'all under the light of these circumstances?
That ANYONE of you could just pull stuff off like this at ANYTIME is a thing of true terror.

I understand there are nutjobs in every religion, but in no other one except for islam is there mass killings of innocents.
One could argue towards the dark ages of the Roman catholic and how it's now islam's turn or something equally daft, but clearly, I'm not a catholic and those ages have past (the muslims also did their fair share of killing during the crusades).
At least one thing was for sure, when you saw a catholic inquisitor coming, you run the other way. Simple.
With you guys, nobody knows who he is dealing with. His closest/best muslim "friend" could just decide to blow up one day with him caught in the explosion.


Also what I hear more of from your people, leave PR, advertizing and world opinion out of this, basically points to "death to the infidel west". and then ofcourse the typical "islam is a religion of peace" thing that gets thrown in. If so, shouldn't the voice of this "peace" overshadow the voice of your hatred and death-dealing? It's like the rest of these "peaceful muslims" don't really care about the "peaceful integrity" of their religion, if not they would be more active with how they condemn it.

If You guys truly cared, you would organize your own counter-terror groups tasked with the shear purpose of vindicating islam from these infiltrators in your religion who lust for the blood of men. Something like THAT would send a clear message that you truly believe the stuff you say about your religion. Do that instead of sitting there moaning as to why I don't want you to come within 1 mile of my office 

guy!!!u hav hit d nail on the head!!!! i agree 100%    #gbam

yeah, am not against anybody here, but i think both the christians nd muslims r going too far with dier comments.
1st of all, dey r gud nd wonderful muslims, with very gud characters but wat i hv noticed is dis, isolation among them, d few i know, r very nice but dey r very tribalistic as regards religion, i knw a lot of christians dat will hv frnds and u wudnt know d friend is a muslim until d person tells u but its not d same for muslims,

imagine, i had a friend (a muslim) dat lykd dis guy but bcus, he was a christian, she sed she cudnt go on with d relationship, u can say dats 1 out of millions, but most of dem are lyk dat,

Christians too can b extremists but u'll b biased if u say d christians are worse dan d muslims. For heavens sake, d major threat to our security is caused by some certain group claimin to b muslims. Imagine d killing of corpers and d bombings here and dere, imagine Afghanistan nd pakistan suicide bombings, killing various people and saying dey'll hav 72 virgins! its all traced back 2 islam, u see wat i mean?

now, "islamic banking" is a wonderful idea, and will help citizens, personally i wud want to bank in dat kind of bank knowing fully d advantages, but why dat name?? I see a situation whereby only muslims will b granted employment dereby sidelining christians, instead of benefitting d whole citizens of dis country.

we shud act lyk 1 family and leave all dese religious tins alone, it shud be NON-INTEREST banking!
For christsake, muslims r allowed into christians schools,

lets think about dis,

black en yellow, black en yellow!!! correct!! d guy is da bomb!!! Roll up!! is a mad song, Khalifa is a bo$$ abeg!

mscheww!! y is he dat expensiv?? he's a gud player, no doubt but wat silverware does he hv dat we'll buy him 4 40 million pounds?? Wenger shudnt b strong headed nd sell d dude joor,

but personally, i prefer nasri to dat guy! we shud go 4 nasri nd let dat fabregas die wifout any trophy in arsenal

1025:
@medjai,
both la liga and epl provide 4 teams each in the champions league, in the last five years now, can u tell me of any of the 4 teams from spain that goes into the knock out stages and can u tell me in any of these yrs that the 4 epl teams no make am?
can the six first teams of la liga  face the first six of epl?
tothenham messed up inter and ac milian in their debut appearance of champions league so tell me apart from madrid and barca, which other team in la liga can stand these english teams.
in football, money controls the players and in england, funds are flowing and teams are buying so other countries have one or two teams with these financial muscles to stand the test of time.
like i said, at the begining of every new season in la liga, madrid and barca will set their targets on winning the league while other teams will target finishing third unlike in england where, tothenham, man city, liverpool, arsenal, chelsea and man u work towards winning the tittle.
have u asked urself, why ronaldo no score 50+ in epl but is doing that is spain? rossi, forlan kanoute will all tell u why they are doing better in la liga then epl while robinho will always shiver at the mention of epl. preasure, competition and business is greater in epl.

dats a biased comment, whr is hleb nd flamini dat left epl 4 greener pastures?? in d bolded comment, hw many of those teams hv won d epl afta settin targets for d epl?? if u r not noticin, ronaldo is d most xpensiv player! nd he has a huge responsibility 2 meet wat is required! And comin into a team comprisin of kaka,di maria, xabi alonso, banzema, higuain, ozil, khedira, nd d rest, he has to perform, likewise messi (dnt gemme wrong, am a barca fan). dere's alot of moni involved in d epl as a result of d media hype, so dere's moni to buy gud players. U cant compare d moni circulation in epl to spanish league nd yet d spanish teams still dominate (at least, d two top clubs).
d english league is jst a more competitive league but not d beta league. d champs in england were belittled by d champs in spanish league. gimme a break!

greateros:
He will be the first Nigerian star to join - Others will follow after seeing how successful they will make him.

Trust Naija our own dey worst. Na de Illuminati go take their hand they drive them when thm don over much!

lwkmd!!! but true talk,

as far as i'm concerned, both Bankole, EFCC SEnate, d rest r all thievES!!!! its jst a mata of who is d lesser devil, Dis Bankole dude dat shud b servin 7 yrs in jail wif hard labor nd without fine, mscheww, i wont b surprised if Jonathan is interested in freein him. Co-horts!