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You need to share the time you open for the day and close for the day. Your battery might not be sufficient. As your battery back up after sundown is less than 4hrs. Your panels might not be sufficient too.

As for efficiency, if you can swap your TVs to more energy efficient ones, you will get better result

jFrankNorfleet:
I'd run installation for my gamehouse within the next 2-3 weeks

Pls house I need you to tell me what's wrong with this quote given by my prospective installer. Focus less on the price and more on if the setup will be okay for the gamehouse and how to prevent issues with the setup


These are what the gamehouse would comprise


Lg LCD 32 inches TV 140w *2
Samsung 32 inches led 56 watts *3
Samsung 32 inches lcd TV 110 watts *2
Samsung 15 inches lcd TV 40 Watts *3
PS2 fat 80w 3pcs
PS3 super slim -85Watts 2 pcs
PS3 slim-85 watts 5pcs
PS4 slim 100w 2pcs
Ps5 1 pc 200w
Yokaho DC ceiling fan 40w 1pc
1 duravolt 18 inch standing fan 27w 1pc

Note: I'm yet to get ps5 but it's in the pipeline. Also only 7 out of the combination of 10 PS3, ps4 and ps5 can be operational at once due to limited number of 32 inch TVs




This is what he quoted for me for the above setup


SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
Growatts 6kva solar inverter: ₦620,000
Growatts battery (5.5 kW/h x2): ₦2,224,000
Jinko solar photovoltaic panels(615 watts):
₦129,000x8=₦1,032,000
ACCESSORIES AND OTHERS
1 DC SURGE (500)₦12,000
1 DC BREAKER (32amps)₦15,000
1 AC SURGE (500)₦12,000
2 AC BREAKER (63amps)x2 ₦30,000
1 DC BREAKER (63amps)₦15,000
OTHERS:
18 way breaker box:₦20,000
4 way breaker box:₦13,000
Knife switch change over:₦12,000
Trunking pipe(50x50)x3:₦12,000
Photovoltaic panels rails(x3)₦15,000
Photovoltaic panels bot 'n' screws(14)₦4,200
Solar connector /MC 4 plug(2)₦2,000
CABLES:
photovoltaic panels DC cable (17 meter)₦61,200
AC CABLE (input) (16 meter)₦64,000
AC CABLE (output) (16 meter)₦64,000


PURCHASE COST:₦4,227,400



Is there something that should be tweaked for more efficiency?

The only reason we haven't begun third world war yet is because of the restraints exercised by Russia and China.

The US is trying so hard to sustain it's dying economy through all these proxy wars here and there.

Let's all keep blaming housing agents as if they are he real cause of this housing inflation.

Do you know how many agencies that will come and inspect your building, even if it's just renovation?

About three years ago a bag of cement is 3k+ now it's 12k+ similar rate of change to sand, gravel, iron etc

When they want to justify their wickedness the remember international standards, buh let them pay international wage they will remember that we earn in naira

Don't attempt to post censored words by misspelling them.
16. Don't promote shady investments like HYIP, MLM on Nairaland.
18. Don't spam the forum by advertising in the wrong places or posting the same content many times.

Validated:
Too bad, a shepherd that eats his flock is wolf and a stranger. Jesus said, my sheep knows my voice, but the stranger they know not.

"OFF TOPIC"

Shepherd are meant to do what with their flock exactly, if not to eat them??

People that have never driven before are the judge and jury in this case, neither do they have the facts right. The cause of the accidents clearly states Tyre burst, yet they managed to include reckless driving as the cause of the accident.

INSPECTORMAX:
Battery Procurement Dispute – Request for Fair Resolution

I’m sharing this to seek objective input and a fair resolution regarding a recent solar installation carried out by Trippledots.

From the outset, my clear preference was LVTOPSUN, based on its features, reviews I got here on NL and other platforms, warranty, and support structure. To confirm pricing, I independently contacted Solaris Surge, who quoted ₦1.9m. I communicated this to Tripplredot and stated I was willing to pay ₦2m to cover procurement and logistics.

At no point did I request a locally made battery. The decision to move away from LVTOPSUN was based on Trippledots recommendation, where I was advised that LVTOPSUN would not provide a full 15kWh usable capacity, while a locally made alternative would provide a full 15kWh and comparable overall value. Based on this professional recommendation, I agreed to the change.

Before payment, I had also informed my Quantity Surveyor (QS) that I was proceeding with LVTOPSUN at ₦2m, which he confirmed was fair. The locally made option was not discussed with my QS at that time. It was only after the battery was delivered that I shared the details with my QS, who highlighted material differences in value, pricing, and functionality compared to LVTOPSUN.

Following further independent research, I confirmed that the installed locally made battery (Mr Reed) is commonly sold around ₦1.6m and has more limited functionality compared to higher-tier options. I also found that alternatives such as VALTO, sold around ₦2m, offer better communication features and overall functionality at a similar price point.

After installation, additional differences became apparent, including shorter warranty coverage, lack of a Lagos service centre, and missing communication features, some of which required additional cost and I was charged separately for and are still not functioning at the time of writing.

I attempted to resolve this privately by requesting either a reasonable price adjustment or a return to my original LVTOPSUN preference. After reasonable follow-up, I have not received a response.

I’m open to constructive opinions on what would be considered a fair and professional resolution in this situation, particularly where a client’s original product preference was changed based on professional recommendation without full disclosure of material differences.

Image 1 : Locally made battery that was supplied and installed

Image 2 : LVTOPSUN battery that was my original request

I'll advice you let go, should he insist he delivered what you both agreed on.

I must say I'm seriously disappointed regards the comments I read up there. Most people supporting this level of greed are birds of same feather. How do you justify non disclosure of material facts.

Something I know is the installer just soiled his reputation. Whether the issue is resolved or not, in the future this will hunt him.

He is in this situation because he believed you are quite more knowledgeable in these matters.

Well in business it's 'BUYERS BEWARE'. You played a fast one on him because he trusted your professional guidance.

Yet you all complain that your clients prefer to get everything themselves and call you for installations only. You recommended a different product to your customer just to make more profit.

To the client, I suggest you let go after these efforts aimed at effecting the correction. Try move past it.

I don't support murder, but those saying he should have just walked away if he had discovered the 5kids aren't his think this is nollywood.

Walk away and start from where? Someone had his life taken away from him. Even ordinary divorce na mental torture, let alone having to fend for about 5kids with your grand kid only to find out none is yours.

I'm sure that man would be in his late 40s or early 50s. What's the average life expentancy self?

Once again I am not trying to justify murder, but it's very difficult not to have a mental break down

It's a pity nigerians are supporting the USA, in as much as I detest the current leadership style and insecurity in Nigeria, I won't support an invasion by USA.

Ask Libya and Ukraine how well they are doing now. I have a feeling they know about this said coup. Let's see how Tinubu handles this.

Have you ever heard of USA intervening in countries without resources?? USA is very deprerate as the have failed in Venezuela and Ukraine. Africa is about t be recolonised.

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nairalanda1:
Not for everyone, for band a consumers who form 20% of total electricity customer base

Meaning the sector still can't make profits from most consumers

Then a large percentage don't pay or underpay

That's why we have poor light

We get what we pay for.

I am apolitical. I have had this view since 2013.

I hope you are aware the government is paying trillions of naira as subsidy for this same purpose, so tell me how it's not a profitable venture.

I pity Israel, and yet they want to live in peace after all of these?

I actually support a very strict regulation of their activities but a total ban because a few use them for criminal acts as justified by some people is just not too reasonable. If it's the level or frequency of their accidents it's quite reasonable to justify more restrictions.

Don't kidnappers, and other terrorist organizations in Nigeria not use standard vehicles, let them ban any model of vehicle used by these criminals too.

Do you know how many people that will lose their source of income as a result of this total ban. Mechanics/engineers, auto part dealers etc, who deals on motorcycle, those street food vendors, some landlords won't get thier rents anytime soon, the list is quite longer than this

Double standards everywhere. Israel is busy breaking international laws and some people are here cheering them on.

So you mean to tell me if it's China or Russia that habours one of the so called terrorist, Israel will assassinate them in this open way?

There's a reason the world is at peace and the very fabric of this is been torn apart, yet some people celebrates this.

There will always be disputes and there are rules for resolution.

When the US bombs others it's called world policing, but referred to as terrorism if other countries does it.

Glo is da bomb. One of the best in my area

This forum is gone. Just check the first page and see how "paid online warriors" are defending nonsense. I have no problem with you doing your job, but multiple posts using different profiles is just not it.

How do you justify a 32 page booklet being sold for a sum more than the minimum wage?

Imagine going to the bank and they charge you 100k for cheque book or atm card. Forget all these foolish reason given. It makes absolutely no sense

To those supporting this madness, it's just a matter of time before you watch your investment go down the drain.

Let it make sense to me that I got an approval from state government and federal government revokes it and then asks me to start the process again which by the way means I have to make new payments.

Why can't fg ratify the actions of the state or find a way to resolve this with out the investor losing his/her funds.

So you mean even if the government sells me a property, I can still lose it not because I defaulted but because some higher government officials deemed it so.

Go and read up why some countries prefer to ship finished products to other countries especially African countries, instead of setting up the manufacturing infrastructure in their proposed markets

abuzz33:
Manufacturers limit 12V inverters to around 2KVA or 1600W which in DC terms requires cables that can carry 133A. That requires a 35MM DC cable. 150A or 1800W requires a 50MM cable for runs of 1M.. 1600W max load is not a lot. A fridge can easily require 1200W just to start and if you combine that with a TV (120W), Decoder (30W), Fan (75W), lighting (100W) its cutting it close. You definitely cannot run a fridge and freezer together.

Its why with 12V systems you have to carefully calculate your load profile and manage your setup because they DRASTICALLY LIMIT the load you can put on them. Its also the reason why manufacturers came up with the solar generator form factor because 12V works best as a plug-in to devices with a well-defined power profile.

For most people, especially grid tied, a 12v system is great. You can run a freezer(200w) and a blender(500) watts simultaneously on a 1kw(continuous power) inverter.

You might say the initial surge, but that's totally dependent on your inverter surge capacity and more importantly you battery bank.

Except you need to draw over 1kw continuously for a long duration, a 12v system is perfectly fine. 12v systems are suitable for loads below 1kw.

How will you have a 48v system and only have 5kwh battery capacity. Personally I have used and currently using my 12v systems as it suits my load.

Left to me if your battery bank is less than 5w manage your loads and stick to a 12v system

For a 24v system your minimum battery capacity should be about 10 to 15kw bank

For 48v from 15kw upward

Of what use is a system you can't fully utilize its capacity.

Some of these allegations self, I don't support Rape but hmm, women. I have my reservations, just be careful when you deal with them

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What's the recommended charging voltage and current for the 220ah starplus battery

Though he didn't ask for a review but I'll give one

Legit, smooth and swift transaction.

Who's buying PI and at what rate

helinues:
Are we spending dollars in Nigeria? Just for you people to appreciate the efforts of this government, but you just can't as you might have sworn to something not to see the progress of Nigeria

Now you remember we don't spend dollars, but when it's time to justify some draconian policies, such as energy prices, you compare in dollars.

Continue, all of us will be alright.

mctfopt:
Amp-hours (Ah)= Energy (kWh)×1000 ÷ Voltage (V)

So, the 3.8kWh at 12V = 3800÷12≈ 316Ah

While 2.5kWh at 24V = 2500+24 ≈104Ah


316Ah is bigger than 104Ah

I think it's 208Ah at 12v,either way 316ah is still bigger

Apc and premium gaslighting


Apc and premium gaslighting

Samesame247:
If you purchased the AC online, then you were not dealing with fouani.

Have you heard about africa for africa?

Those are items produced substandard to sell in poor africa countries. Those items cannot be accepted in europe or America but would find their way into africa because of greed and corruption which is why you find SON and Nafdac number on rizzlers but police would arrest and detain you if rizzler is found in your possession.

I went to buy LG tv and 2 types were brought to me; one in white cartoon, the other in brown cartoon and they were not same price; one was africa for africa and the other was fouani.

Pls dont buy electronics online unless you want africa for africa...

If you didnot purchase the AC from fouani showroom but online, fouani was no moral right to change the AC for you. Fouani has showrooms for this reason.

How could you even try to justify this fraud. Of what use is their online platform? To sell substandard products?

Call them out, follow up it may be an internal job. It may not be fake though. But still call them out, you deserve a logical explanation.

Bluntguy:
The exams that were just written two weeks ago? I hope all scripts were properly marked o.

BECE ended on Tuesday, yesterday for Lagos State

This is so hilarious

But on a more serious note, I just can't miss the first meal, but others, hmm

So 100, 110,101,111,1111,11111 etc it depends.

Why are people celebrating this, there isn't really any significant upgrade from the previous law, those saying the north can't always have their way obviously didn't go through this new bill.

Only the masses will feel the heat.

Just about three years ago 46t naira is over 100b dollars now over 100t naira is worth less than 100b dollars