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MaxInDHouse:
Guy nah translators use small letter in the original language GOD, God, god is pronounced the same way.
So the supreme being who created things have the power to dismantle them if they aren't fulfilling the purpose for which they were created.

So in your understanding god is same as God?
"The supreme being who created things"? I thought you said man created things??
So why not dismantle Satan? That's the topic of this thread

What is your source?

MaxInDHouse:
God acknowledged humans as Gods! Psalms 82:6
Because they will surely turn this planet into something else with the things they will create!

Small letter god my friend. Which is not same as God the creator

MaxInDHouse:
CREATION has to do with improving the life of the Creator animals live by instinct so they never improve on what their ancestors knew till today!

Why not Google and see if animals create tools.
Also, animals have other abilities that humans don't have. That doesn't make them God. They can see wider color spectrum, and hear further, and are much more intuitive.

But all this is irrelevant. Man is NOT God not only because he can't create nor destroy matter, but also because he can't control things with words - even his own internal organs, and aging, and dying. If you tell your heart to stop beating it will totally ignore you! Some God!

MaxInDHouse:
That is from God's side humans started CREATING things that makes life sweeter so it's you who calls it DISCOVERY.

How about from animal side. So animals don't create things that make their lives sweeter?! Why not Google and find oit if animals create tools!

There is no God, man, or animal side! What we are discussing is the Bible, hence BIBLICAL "create". That’s what separates God from any other being in the universe.

MaxInDHouse:
Check the word CREATE in your English dictionary:

To bring into existence out of nothing, without the prior existence of the materials or elements used. ▼ show

To make or produce from other (e.g. raw, unrefined or scattered) materials or combinable elements or ideas; to design or invest with a new form, shape, function, etc.

So to create doesn't necessarily mean out of nothing o!

Since animals also do the second definition, they are also God (according to you!)
Birds create nests, spiders create webs, apes create tools they use for hunting and fishing, etc

MaxInDHouse:
You haven't quoted what you typed up there Word for word in the Bible.

That's exactly how it is in the Bible - "For by him ALL things were CREATED, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible". Except the capitals.

But anyway the Bible is not meant to be read like that. Everything is to be taken together, not cherrypicked. Creation ENDED after the sixth day. There hasn't been any creation since then

duro4chang:
She is going. She was trying to bribe them with grains yesterday.

Tizu:
Maybe she has not been doing fine

Geniuses, you totally miss the point of the video - THEY WERE FORGING SIGNATURES!!

MaxInDHouse:
You called it DISCOVERY but no other creature come close to man in these and animals don't work like Adam's descendants who kept improving daily in the things we CREATED!

See above.

God created everything (everything means EVERYTHING), visible and invisible by the end of the sixth day, and then rested on the seventh day.

MaxInDHouse:
Can you quote this word for word in the Bible?

Colossians 1:16, "For by him ALL things were CREATED, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible"

All means ALL. Nothing left for man to create

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ why is it that no other creature can CREATE anything out of what you called "MATTER" apart from the children of Adam?
Adam's descendants CREATED electricity, telecommunication, automobile just to mention a few and you are here arguing that it's what they are able to lay their hands on that was used to CREATE something else, abeg why couldn't any other creature do the same?
Well until you can find one creature apart from man that's able to CREATE something out of what is available man is God! Psalms 82:6
Do you agree that God CREATED man?
Well the Bible said He (God) formed man from the dust of the ground this means God used what you called MATTER to CREATE man.
So it's false religions that's giving you the problem not the true word of God!



Where did you get the idea that God must know all?

With respect, this discussion is becoming too childish for me. Been nice chatting with you.
Where else in the Bible do you see the word "create" used except as pertaining to creation?
Even whe an animal (like man) gives birth it is not called creation. God created dust and formed man from the dust he created, and you are comparing that to man DISCOVERING electricity that Gid created, that was always there! To invent or discover something (like electricity) does not mean you created it! And if that's what defines God then animals are also God because they discover things and invent tools from the environment and build elaborate nests, webs, traps, dwellings, etc.
Ciao!

MaxInDHouse:
The title GOD means SUPREME BEING so if you want to expatiate on that you can start by thinking about someone who created computer such a person is SUPREME over the computer because he knows everything that makes up the computer so he can dismantle it and put it back again.
Have humans proved to be CREATORS?
YES!
That's what God means not knowing all things.
God didn't create the serpent to cause trouble in Paradise a spirit being possessed the creature to cause confusion and why give this spirit being access to Adam and Eve.
Satan challenged God's right to deprive Adam and Eve absolute freedom claiming they will be better of without God's guidance.
But since the couple never thought they can do so without consequences Satan needs to speak with them so that they may show whether they are loyal to their Maker or not.
Sadly the couple welcomed the idea to rebel against their Creator that's how evil began.

Ridiculous! They really got you mixed up. Matter can neither be created nor destroyed - it only changes form. ONLY God can create or destroy even an atom. But beyond that, what sort of God cannot stop or start his own heart or control organs inside his own body (his own o!). If man is God then every other animal is God!

So your thesis is that God intentionally created the Serpent to tempt man or is it that it was a mistake.(Remember God knows all and never makes mistakes). And then why not get rid of him after the mistake.
Can't you see that the correct answer is that evil exists to counterbalance good. Not that it was a mistake, and he went rogue, and God wanted to use it to train man, bla bla bla 😅

MaxInDHouse:
You made a very funny comparison!

How can you compare creatures having minds and thoughts exactly like their maker with computers? Genesis 1:26

Guy, humans are Gods according to the way we were created and we were not programmed to do what our maker wants unlike the computer that it was programmed to do specific things we can choose whether to do good or evil.

It is called an ANALOGY, used to make a point (which I'm sure you got), not that it is exactly same.
So Adam was God? Wow! Adam that was not even self-aware - did not even know he was naked! What God!
You still have NOT answered the question of this thread: why create the Serpent, and why give him easy access to them?

MaxInDHouse:
It makes perfect sense!
Remember he didn't create us to be like robots that's what making man in his image means, unlike animals that lives on instinct (eat, drink, sleep and mating) humans may decide on their own things they will like to do with their lives apart from necessities so God doesn't deprive us of this but we must not think of setting standards for our fellow humans that is the meaning of the tree of knowledge of good and evil that's in the middle of the garden! Genesis 2:17
There is no defect in God's work {Deuteronomy 32:5} or our formation everything was perfectly made {Genesis 1:31} certain humans have proved to be good inside out which means God didn't do anything wrong.
So since some are doing His will but most feels like doing whatever pleases them then time is needed to allow humankind learn from experience.
What you call "working with evil" is not true God must allow both good ones and bad ones cohabit together so by the time He wipes off the bad ones there will be moral justification for such action.
For your information after God has settled this case whoever tries anything like what brought about all this troubles will not be permitted to continue living in fact such a person will only be allowed to taste life for a hundred years as a youth because then nothing like oldage again then he or she will die {Isaiah 65:20} naturally while others live forever! Psalms 37:29

So patience is required on the part of all faithful people! Psalms 37:7-11

It's amazing that an adult actually believes this (but then who am I to say). So you have a computer program and somehow virus enters it. Instead of promptly getting rid of the virus you leave it in your computer... amazing!
Adam and Eve were deceived by the Serpent. The question of the thread is why was the Serpent created and allowed access to them? And why allow his continued existence?
I think my answer makes more sense: we live in a system of dualities. Since God is good there has to be a counterbalancing bad - until God abolishes this system

MaxInDHouse:
God wants the matter settled once and for all time so that whoever lives on this planet after the issue is resolved will know what to tell coming generations why it's evil to think of independence from God's rulership.
All the troubles on this planet is coming from this same source as humans wants to rule over themselves independently of God's guidance.
According to the Bible Adam and Eve wanted to become like gods for anyone who is coming to live on this planet after them but at the same time they wanted absolute freedom from God.
That is the root cause of all the atrocities ever committed on this planet.
So God decided to PERMIT HUMAN RULE for thousands of years so that we may all come to the conclusion that humans can't rule humans successfully because there is no single person who can succeed in directing his own life talkless of directing millions! Jeremiah 10:23
But despite all the troubles majority are still clamoring for human government!
How?
They join hands in building destructive weapons, they set up different systems of rule and continue voting for humans anticipating a better life under humans like them! Psalms 146:3-4
If God had stepped in to end this thing without giving humans enough time it will still generate again so the approach He is using is the best way forward.
Many have lived and died on this planet God promised to raise them back to life whether they know Him or worship other gods all He wants from them is a sincere heart but those who deliberately chose to be evil will never be remembered they will be forgotten in their graves! Psalms 9:17
So the time allowed for human rulership is very very necessary by the time God brings destruction upon all human government {Daniel 2:44} all those living by the time will say "YES, they have made us suffer under their useless styles of rule"

You again talking childish. According to you, God never intended evil but evil appeared. Instead of going back to his original plan of there being no evil (as God would), he changed his plan and started working with evil. Honestly, does that make sense to you??

TeeConsult01:
by “formal education”, could you list the course(s) you’re referring to and the schools that offer them at the tertiary level here in Nigeria?

Sorry dear, was just pulling your leg - you know this is NL. God bless you and best of luck to ya

MaxInDHouse:
It must be allowed for a sound reason!

That's the purpose of this thread: WHY? Not somewhat childishly beating about the bush with ridiculous narrations (to make his first-born, the chief angel, feel good, he told him to create anything he wished!😅)

MaxInDHouse:
Did he created any being to cause harm?

The issue is not the creation, the issue is that it's been ALLOWED to continue

Cherrybae:
Wike and Akpabio alone will give Tinubu all votes in South South.

Imo and Ebonyi is already in the bag.

Soludo will give Tinubu at least 30%

Gov Mbah will give Tinubu at least 30%

Gov Otti and ordinary uzor kanu will give Tinubu at least 40% in Abia

South West is all for Tinubu including North Central.

North East is 80% for Tinubu.

North West is 70% for Tinubu.

Tinubu is not Buhari.

Ipob and obedients must have sense by force.

Sane Nigerians know that no amount of alliance can defeat Tinubu.

Ipob wake up

Obedients wake up

Tinubu doesn't even need all that. All he needs are INEC, Supreme Court, police and army, and agberos (in case anyone wants to go street(. And he already has all that firmly in his pocket!

Penguin2:
Those who built the Titanic bragged, “not Even God can sink this ship”, but guess what, it sank on its first voyage.

So, I like how you lots think nothing can sink Tinubu.

Game on!

He said "Only God", while they said "Not even God". See the difference?

richmond500:
while we all cannot ignore govt, it doesn't mean we will all work for govt

Strawman . Who said we should all work for govt?

richmond500:
As a person, living in a society governed by rules, regulations and norms, u can't ignore govt.

Even Bokoharam and Ipob doesn't ignore govt

Exactly. Especially if you want to be rich. You must always have one eye towards govt policies. Just think of the number of extremely wealthy corporations that had to fold up and leave because of a single govt policy - Tinubu partially floated the Naira and partially removed fuel subsidy. That's all. Partially o!

richmond500:
nobody cam ignore govt, weda u are rich or not.

What we are saying is different

You can ignore the govt if you poor (infact govt will want you to ignore them). If u wanna be rich, govt affiliation is requisite

richmond500:
working for govt and working as the govt are two different things

You can't ignore govt and become very rich.
They print all the money and have the guns.

Seriously, where's the "design"?
Is this not the same EXACT thing we've been wearing here since forever??

Is this some sort of a joke?

Letmecum:
Bro they have been grinding on a low but you won't notice because you're sleeping at night when men are awake grinding for the bag.

Give us a detailed example how grinding can make someone rich (unless a passion, or something you love to do, or a hobby - like developing an app). Remember, everybody is grinding too, and you can't grind too much more than everybody else or your body will break down.
So the answer can't be grinding!

traware:
"Behind Every Great Wealth,Lies A Great Crime"---Anonymous

What is the great crime behind Microsoft or Google or Elon Musk or Uber or Airbnb, etc. All became billionaires by developing an app then some company comes along and pays billions for the app. All the most popular apps we'er using today produced billionaires.
So that statement is wrong!

Antwan99:
Brother, when we talk of rich men, we don't call politicians.

Check Forbes.

richmond500:
Work as the govt and work for the govt are different things

You can't ignore govt and become very rich.
Bottom line, govt is where the big money is. I mean, they're the ones who even own (print) the money that we'er talking about, and they can print as much as they wish!
Plus they control the army and police and make the laws - things that can take away all your wealth overnight, and even put you in jail!

dogo568:
My question is did they search his phone? How did they find out

I think his social media is what they mean

Antwan99:
The richest men in the world from 1 - 100; have you heard of any one of them who works for a government? Entrepreneurship flourishes.

The secret is learn a skill today or go into business. Money dey these places.

richmond500:
Even from 1-1m does not work for govt

The richest people always work for/with the government or have government connections. From Elon Musk to Dangote, all of them.
Then there are people like Tinunu and other billionaire Nigerian politicians who made their entire billions through government

Begs the question:
Right about what??

MaxInDHouse:
God is Holy this means He is incapable of evil thoughts all His ways are good so when He gave life to creatures He never thought any could be an ingrate as the first creature He made was really friendly and full of appreciation {Proverbs 8:22-31} as happy as God is He decided to create more but this time around He wanted His FIRSTBORN child to be happy too so He empower this son to create all other creatures {Colossians 1:15} God is always happy {1Timothy 1:11} but will working beside His father in creating other creatures make the child happy too?
Well God told His FIRSTBORN child that whatever he is able to create with the support God gives all belongs to this child {Colossians 1:16} so the son jumped into action but something happened along the way the first creatures God's firstborn son created were spirit creatures just like himself so they all respected him as the number one or archangel while he humbly makes all of them feel important telling them all glory and honour belongs to his father who is their father too.
Well one of the first spirit creatures feels he should be in a position better than what he is presently {Isaiah 14:13} God is the only one who knows the right person to give such authority to {Revelations 4:11} and His firstborn son wants to win his father's approval not as the firstborn but earn it in unique way.
So this spirit creature became so envious that he began scheming ways to gain dominance over other creatures that is how evil began and if you carefully watch what has been happening throughout history you will find out that those who wants to rule over others often becomes vicious in all their dealings. John 8:44
The Bible is all about how evil began and how it's going to end only two persons are certain to know these: Almighty God and His only begotten son because it's only these two that knows the beginning of evil as they both created all other creatures among whom a rebel emerged.
That's why both the father and His firstborn son keep saying they know the beginning and the end, the beginning and end of what?
Badness!

May you have peace!

Your rather childish thesis does not answer the question of the topic: WHY? Why does God allow evil to exist?
Also, does God have a wife to be birthing sons? If not, HOW?
Also, God (as defined in English) is the ONLY entity that created. Matter can neither be created nor destroyed except by ONLY God (it only changes form). As Said in Gen 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." GOD! Not anybody else!
Angels didn't create, they were created! ANY entity that created was God!

Collossians 1:16 - "For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him"
John 1:3 "Through him all things were made, and without him nothing was made that has been made"