hakeem4:
we can take the faith healer to the hospital to perform more of his miracle. So we’d get more people to heal

well, I don't know of that

The anointing is in the word. So what ever you say in line with God's word will come to pass. Note the word, say. When you are endue with the power of God, it doesn't necessarily means you must pray before it will happen. with the power of God even your present brings power. so what ever you say comes to pass

Glory to God. We need more of this

sonofthunder:


Go and study Revelations 22, also the book of James.

why don't you type it here, so that we can share

filleSouriante:


Ur right but then me no want o. I prefer title like oil magnate wife *winks*
I attend Redeem

And you don't know that live can funny sometimes. My elder sister friend was like you. She is really not into church things. But guess what, she ended up marrying a pastor. And she is doing fine today. Though is your life, but I believe you are mature, and I believe that you know being a wife of an oil magnate doesn't happen over night. What I will except of you, is to be good. Live a life of dignity and you will met a good man. Am a winner's member

filleSouriante:


Just kidding joor. But on a serious note it takes a lot of sacrifice to be a pastors wife. Ain't cut out for that.

it doesn't takes your own sacrifice or effort, it is the grace of God that is in the Lord Jesus. What about the pastor themselves. Are they not humans. No human being, no matter how strong he is can live a righteous life. If I may ask, which church do go to

Funaki:


why are you stubborn like this? In the original language of the new testament, "eternal" and "everlasting" were translated from the same word, they mean the same thing. It's just like translating "commencer" in french language to "start" or "begin" in diferent places in english. They're from the same source, they mean the same thing. This is simple, there is no need for exegesis there.

I will come back to this issue, please I want to answer the do you know the Lord Jesus as the son of man. There is a reason why am asking

Funaki:


Everlasting life and eternal life means the same thing. It's the KJV translation that caused the confusion. In the original Greek lexicon, both "everlasting" and "eternal" are translated from the same Greek word "aionios". It means forever, everlasting or perpetual.
The "eternal" in John 3:15 and the "everlasting" in John 3:16 are the same thing, the same word. Don't let bible translation confuse you.

You don't need the Greek lexicon that is how the Oxford lexicon if I may say, define it. Yes, everlasting and eternal means the same. life without ending. If there is one thing I know about the Bible, is that the Bible will not to use everlasting and uses the word eternal. there is a reason, and that is what I am trying to tell you. In John 3:16, the Lord Jesus hasn't die and resurrected. When you believe in the Lord Jesus, you have everlasting life. But in John 3:14-15, was here on earth. He said as Moses was lifted up, so when he dies he will lift other up. And if we believe in his death and resurrection, we would have eternal life. I don't think the Bible will want to use the everlasting, but uses the word eternal instead. eternal life is God's live. before I continue with this discuss, I want to ask you a question. Do you know the Lord Jesus as the son of man? if you do we can continue

Firstandonly:
Christ said, he is a good shepherd and that the sheep his father has given him he will never loose it. also when the children of Israel sin in the wilderness God wanted to destroy them but Moses ask God to pluck out his name from the book of live for their sake but God refuse. once save for ever save. can ur repellious son stop being ur son? the answer is no. when a believer sin he looses fellowship with God and also we loose rewards in heaven, when that believe die he goes to heaven not because of his good life but because he believed and also believer who live in sin will not reign with Christ at the last days. so my dear brother believing those not mean we are free to live anyhow because we have a lot of things to loose. believe me or not I've notice that most true believer who live in sin don't live long

Thanks. going guys comments have really helped me today. With the help of the Holy Spirit, am going to start writing that book

filleSouriante:


Yes our ayamataga boss.

not me. when you said you will not make your man see the calling of God, that is demonic of the highest order. But me and you nor dey this race oooooo.

GLYCOLYSISS:

I'm sincerely moved to tell you a true life story of the guy behind these handle.
Few years back,I encountered Him.
Like,I encountered our lord and beloved saviour who died on the cross for our transgressions.
I wept . I wept because it was like my eyes was finally opened. Like a covering fell off my eyes.
I have always panted to encounter Him myself.
I was done with been told what it's all about to serve God.
I deeply was curious to know Him.
I did not fast for anything,I did not start ,suddenly to be going to church to clean it up to encounter the person that have so much be spoken about in the history of man.
But I did something before my very encounter with him.
I SINCERELY prayed to encounter Him.
The day I did,it was in my school chapel at night,I suddenly felt a very strong present.
My body start shivering very very rigorously, I fell to the floor, I was alone that very night.
I'm simply short of word of how to explain these scene of what transpired that night.
But I knew I got hold of His garment that night.
When I could control myself, I was scared & I left that school chapel for school hostel that very night.
I did not tell anyone what happened.
It was a boarding school.
But after that day,something changed about my life.
My conducts, language & how I see the world changed, but I must confess I was still struggling with sins.
I was struggling with porn. Yes,I do watch porns before my experience that very night,and still struggled with it after that night.
I was lucky to have read one magazine about the second work of grace,called sanctification from one of those deeper life magazine,women mirrior.
I was then I realised that my encounter that night was not enough.
I need sanctification .
I continued to ask God to sanctify me.
I did not fast for it,I didn't do any good work for it,but I only SINCERELY prayed for it.
What I later felt transcend all knowledge, experience & understanding I have ever felt in my life.
I started speaking in tongue,I couldn't control it,when ever I pray.
I burned for God.
Anybody in government science secondary school ,Abaji,Abuja ,2015/2016 period can attest to my claims.
I burned for God,I could lay hand on the sick & they will be healed.
I could preach in the school chapel & people will be crying. Shedding tears asking God to forgive them.
I felt the present of Holy spirit in me.
My mum could attest to it,my younger ones.

But it was short lived.

My praying life begin to slow down,my bible reading life begin to die down.
I became to grow lukewarm about God's work, I was actually affected because I failed my ssce that year,I had issue in my maths.
So,I will have to rewrite the next year.
I was devastated..
Since then till these very moment an typing these message to you,I never felt that present again.
I have been struggling with masturbation,porn ,again, & lies ever since I stopped burning for God.
I feel ashamed of myself now,especially when I meet people that knew me during those period
I feel empty,totally empty compared to them I felt a present in me.
I feel I should just share these with you,it may help you find the answer you seek.

Take care..

Thanks. I some how have the same story with you. though I didn't grew to the level healing people but I could attest to the fact that I was growing in faith and spirituality. I could live for weeks without committing any sin. I started speaking with other tongues. But then, I started backsliding. Like you, I started struggling with porn and lying. But do you know what I have come to understand, I have come to understand that I was doing things with my own strength. I was living thinking that since God have save me, I should live the rest of my life trying to live a righteous life. But do you know what, this was not God meant when He gave Christ. He gave us Christ that we would be Holy, unblameable and unreproveable in his sight(col 1:22). So we are forever holy and unblameable in God's sight. So now, I have now seeing myself as God sees me, not minding that I still struggle with sin. I still fall something, but this time is different when I fall. When I fall, I don't fell condemned like before. I go on my knees and ask God for forgiveness. Though am still struggling, but I know I will overcome. but in the sight of God, I am still holy and unblameable, not because of my behavior, but because of what Christ has done. this is the only way I see myself. I hope this help you. I would like to know you. I don't know how to pm, I would have sent you one. this is number 09011848519. Thanks

Funaki:


how's everlasting life different from eternal life?

Everlasting life is the life of heaven. When you believe in the Lord Jesus, you are assured of heaven. It is the desire of God that everyone makes heaven. God so loved us, that he doesn't want us to perish, so he gave us a life that make us not come to death in condemnation, but be passed to life, when we believe in the Lord Jesus ( John 5:24). But we are here in this world that has the devil in it. When you believe in the Lord Jesus, God didn't take you away from this world, we are still living in this wicked world where the devil is in charge. this was what the Lord Jesus said in John chapter 17. when he said, he has given us the word and the world hate us. The Lord Jesus has given us the word. We have been assured of heaven, but we are still living in this world. So how do we that believe in the Lord Jesus live in this world, that is full of hatred from the devil to us. That is when God now give us eternal life. His own life. Read John 3:14-15. The Lord Jesus said, as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so will the son of man be lifted up, and any body that believe in the Lord Jesus when he is lifted up, will have eternal life. here he didn't say you will have everlasting life, but eternal life. Read John 6:50-57. But there is one thing about Everlasting life and eternal life. Everlasting life comes by believing, but eternal life, comes by knowing. I would stop here for now.

bomsilaga:
Broad is the way to destruction bro, and many find it.

What I typed doesn't deserve this comments

MrPresident1:


The people who own the thread, to whom it is directed, fully understand it. The Bible tells us that that there are different kinds of people in the world, existing in levels and layers:

1Corinthians 15:39
All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.

So, you see my friend, you do not have enough clearance from God to understand what I am saying, I advice you not to bother yourself about it. Just continue on the watchers thread, that is for everyone regardless of flesh type or glory type.

I don't have enough clearance to know that you said rubbish. You said there will be sex in heaven, I don't need clearance to know that is nonsense. Sorry to be talking with you like this, what you typed is not correct. Please, I respect you alot, don't because of one logical idea makes read the Bible at of context

filleSouriante:

Boss you dey NL too?

Do you know me

malvisguy212:
God forbid, sin is what Christ has already defected , you just need to believed and be saved.

Ok.

alBHAGDADI:


For you to have doubted the thread because of how people went against it shows you never believed its content. The attack from those people have plucked the message from your heart.

Mark 4:15
And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

If you continue writing that people can lose their salvation, then you are among those leading people to hell fire.

Ok. thanks

unstoppable51:

Good morning bro!
From your replies you seem really sincere about wanting to understand the truth concerning Salvation. I have been in the position that you are in right now and here's what helped me discover and built my convictions on this:
1. I made up my mind to put a lot of effort in knowing the truth for myself so I READ & LISTENED A LOT.
You can't keep away from properly explained threads, posts, books, audio teachings etc because of what people say and expect to understand all you desire.
2. I began to value WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY a lot more than what are people saying about this? Only the Word counts for me.
3. Praying Pauline prayers
For now, I'll respectfully advise you pause the book and learn first sir. You'll bless more lives!
Two sites I'll personally recommend for you is https://www.feedmejesus.com and also livingwordmedia.org (audio teachings free download)

Thanks brother. Have stopped for now. Am just really confuse. I don't want to write something that may not be the truth.

kmcutez:


Failed. Just do more research.

Make me understand. But I know, everlasting life is the life of heaven. Read John 5:24

alBHAGDADI:


Take your time to read all the threads. The answer to your questions are there.

The way people are going against it, that was why I didn't read the rest. The issue is not about the thread. Should one continue believing that one can't lose is salvation. should I continue writing on this. Am really confuse

alBHAGDADI:


If I get you, what you are trying to know is if we can make what Christ has done useless because of our sins.

No we can't, because we as humans will always sin as long as we are in this flesh. It is those sins Jesus came to take away.

Mathew 1:21
And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Now, does that mean we now have a licence to sin? No, we don't.

If you believe you can lose your salvation, read this thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/4931034/believe-lose-salvation-then-called

If you believed Judas and Demas lost their salvation, read this:

https://www.nairaland.com/4942940/judas-demas-examining-verses-people

How Satan prevents you from believing the gospel of once saved always saved:

https://www.nairaland.com/4838851/how-enemy-makes-reject-finished

To see that it is only one sin that sends people to hell fire, read this:

https://www.nairaland.com/4878886/it-only-one-sin-sends

I read the first thread, I didn't go through the rest. Recently, I start writing a book concerning your stand, but I stop after almost concluding it. I love the Lord Jesus, and I want to make heaven, so I don't to do any wrong thing. Am really confused presently. I don't know if what am writing is the right thing. I don't know am being led by the Spirit of God to write it. so I stop. Don't you think one can really lose his salvation? If I fall into sin, shouldn't I be condemned. I don't know. Am really serious. this is what is happening with me presently.

shadeyinka:

Everlasting life isn't just about living forever!

Everlasting life is about spending your eternity in the presence of God.

Hell Fire was prepared for satan and his angels.
Mat 25:41:
"Then shall he say also to them on the left hand, Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:"

Here, those who have Everlasting Separation (Second Death) from God are put (God's Refuse Dump).

I have explained this to you before: death isn't an annihilation: Death is a Separation or a Disconnection

If Jesus died on the cross, can an unconscious do what He was doing in the Scriptures below:

1Pet 3:19:
"By which also he went and preached to the spirits in prison;"

1Pet 4:6:
"For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit."

thanks. I call every lasting life the life of heaven

MondayOsunbor:

you do cult boys ?

And Yahoo boys

colestephan86:

It's cos those sisters know that pastors are more likely to own a private jet in their lifetime.
I call it projective reasoning.

Lolzzzzz projective reasoning

Thank you sister. see a lady with sense, not all this brainless slay queen

filleSouriante:


I swear down, we dey reason together. Marry pastor say wetin happen? Once we are married i wont even allow him hear the calling sef

ahhhhh ayamatagan

Twoclans:
Your assumption is wrong, I am one person who won't marry a pastor.

I don't do church boys.

no body is talking about you. we know you naaaaaa

God bless you

IsaacRocks:

Was Rapture Mentioned in the bible ? Article.

Meaning of Rapture
It's true that the word rapture is not in the Bible. But neither will you find the Trinity by name in the Bible, nor the word mission and a number of other terms we use to describe theological concepts clearly taught in Scripture.

The word “rapture” is taken from the Latin “rapio” for the two words “caught up” used in 1 Thessalonians 4:17. It has come into popular use today to refer to the Lord Jesus coming for the church, to lift her up into the heavens. One raptured is “lifted up” in love.

When is the rapture?
When you are studying the rapture of the church, there are several things you need to keep in mind. First of all, the second coming of Christ is in two parts, separated by a period of seven years.

The first part is sometimes referred to as the “Rapture” (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, 1 Corinthians 15:52-58). The second part occurs when Christ physically, bodily returns to this earth on the Mount of Olives from which He ascended. The interval between these two events, known as the Tribulation and Great Tribulation, is divided into two, three-and-a-half year periods each. The seventy weeks described in Daniel 9:24-27 speaks of this.

The Great Tribulation is the “wrath to come” from which the believer is delivered by the Rapture (1 Thessalonians 1:9-10). The children of God, “because they have kept the word of His patience, will be kept from that hour of trial.” (Revelation 3:10).

Why Do Christians talk about the Rapture so much?

The rapture is not a word that's found in Scripture, but it's a Biblical idea and a Biblical concept, which is that at the end of the age, Jesus returns and calls his people to him in the air so that as Paul talks ab 1 Thessalonians chapter four, those who are dead are raised first, and then those who are still alive are caught up with the Lord Jesus in the air.

Rapture was not in any way mentioned in the bible but there's the second coming of Christ will you be ready for him.
Source:
[url]rocksgospel.com.ng[/url]

we know

It means, when you accept and believe in the Lord Jesus, you will be given the life of heaven. You will be assured of heaven. But everlasting life is different from eternal life. I can share more on this, but I don't want to derail this thread

@op, you wrote a thread about the second coming of the Lord Jesus. that thread has really helped me. Any time I read that thread, I reflect about my life, only for me to be reading this from you. Don't let one stupid logical idea make you lose focus. you have inspire lots of people, now you are distracting them, because of one stupid logic.

malvisguy212:
Salvation is not DOING something ; it is KNOWING someone (John 17:3). Salvation is not based on what we might do; it is based on what Christ has ALREADY DONE (John 19:30). Salvation is not TRYING; it is TRUSTING (John 6:47). Even the devil know this as God plan of salvation in Luke 8:12:

"Those by the way side are they that hear;
then cometh the devil, and taketh away the
word out of their hearts, lest they should
BELIEVED AND BE SAVED" (Luke 8:12).

who is the word ? Jesus and what must a man do to be saved ? believed on the word .

In Philippians 2:12-13 the greak word translated fear in this context can be " reference, respect" psalm 2:11 sum it up perfectly:

11 Serve the LORD with fear,
and rejoice with h trembling.

if serve the Lord with fear why rejoice ? the fear here mean respect, We work out our salvation by going to the very source of our salvation, the Word of
God , Jesus.

You made a lot of sense. So salvation is not base on what we can do, but what Christ has done. I want to ask, the fact that Christ has done it, can't we because of our ways of living undone it