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Christianity EtcRe: Why Does The Bible Allow Slave Owners To Beat Their Slaves? by dalaman: 6:13pm On Jan 18, 2017
johnydon22:
You are nistaken he will soon try to wriggle around the question with gotquestions.
grin
PoliticsRe: Buratai, Abba Kyari, Lai Mohammed Visit Shettima Over IDPs Bombing by dalaman: 5:30pm On Jan 18, 2017
APC, must everything be done for the camera? Na photo OP carry them go there?
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 4:32pm On Jan 18, 2017
felixomor:
Increase the volume of your voice to deceive urself more that u r making sense.

Never have I seen someone who fitted this whole verse perfectly..


Psalms 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good
Deny all you want. The fact still remains that you watch porn.
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 4:01pm On Jan 18, 2017
felixomor:
Hehehehe
Your mind is now so corrupted that u think everyone is a LIAR like u?

This is where ur atheism comes from....
I say you watch. You can LIE as much as you want. It doesn't change anything.
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 3:17pm On Jan 18, 2017
felixomor:
I dont watch.
Stop fooling yourself.

Besides God sees all things as a spirit.
You are in human form.
This thing makes brains dull, i told u before
You watch. Keep lying to yourself.

So what if your God sees all things as spirit? Doesn't stop him from being the highest watcher of porn.
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 2:54pm On Jan 18, 2017
felixomor:
See your guilty conscience na? grin
You watch porn. Your God as described watches more porn than anybody else so what are you on about?
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 2:43pm On Jan 18, 2017
felixomor:
U have admitted it here before na?
No need going over it again.
That no one watches more porn than your God or that you also you also watch porn?
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 2:38pm On Jan 18, 2017
felixomor:
Well, i am happy we know the root of your atheism.
It is centered on fleshly lust.

Nothing else.
Thats why u will never be able to provide proofs.

Forget all these your grammar.
Proof that my atheism is based on fleshy lust. Define fleshy lust.
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 2:31pm On Jan 18, 2017
felixomor:
Define mythology
Go and read your dictionary.
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 2:19pm On Jan 18, 2017
felixomor:
Now u want to start?
U have failed to provide proof for ur claims,

Stop asking any further questions.
Or rather look for any beer palour debate and join.
That's where people can argue without proof and still claim victory.
I have already. The unknown people that wrote the gospels invented the Jesus as God mythology. The mostly unknown people that wrote down the OT invented the Yahweh is God mythology.
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 1:41pm On Jan 18, 2017
felixomor:
Abeg if u dont have proof.
Continue your drinking.
I told you that the mostly unknown people that wrote down the Gospels for example invented the Jesus stories and you are here baa baaa baaing. Who actually wrote the Gospel of Mark?
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 1:31pm On Jan 18, 2017
felixomor:
Who invented it?
Besides u earlier claimed Jews handed the story to Romans who brought a " new" Jesus God into it..
And now u say "his followers"
Wow.....(the lips are already changing)


Please provide proof....
The unknown people that wrote down the gospels invented the Jesus stories.
The mostly unknown people that wrote down the OT invented Yahweh and the Yahweh stories.
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 12:58pm On Jan 18, 2017
felixomor:
Just look at you,
U that have admitted that Jesus existed before,

Now again, u say He was invented?

Mscheww
I even forgot u r double-mouthed...
There was man behind the legend. Jesus existed as a man. Him.being God was invented decades after he died by his followers.
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 12:47pm On Jan 18, 2017
felixomor:
Unknown indeed.
Prove it, stop beating around the bush...

I dont know why u like sounding as though u r under influence of alcohol?
You make a claim, and when they tell u to back it up, u simply increase the volume of ur voice....
As if that is the backup for your claim...

I dont know how u live with such mindset
Who is Yahweh? A God invented by the ancient Jews. They wrote stories about him in their language. They said he created the world. They formed a religion about him based on their culture and heritage. They did everything for him. Later the Romans adopted the stories and changed it and created a new God out of it Jesus. They spread it to all their territories. A Roman territory conquered your ancestors and fed them ad their kids this story and covered them by force to accept the religion. You are now a cramping Jesus is God baa baa baa. As if you are a Jew or a Roman. Change Jesus put in Mohammed and the you get the story for Islam. Change it with Brahma and you get the story for the Hindus.

All of these Gods were created by ancient men. Before Yahweh was invented the Caannaties were worshipping El and Baal. The Egyptians were worshiping Ra, the Greeks Zeus etc.
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 12:04pm On Jan 18, 2017
felixomor:
"Fact" indeed.
Prove it, who was credited for the invention?

Have u seen any inventor thats not proud of his invention?
You are reading stories that were written by unknown Jews and Romans about a God they invented . Sure they must have been proud of their inventions.
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 6:57pm On Jan 17, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
You didn't read the article . There are not guesses , there are facts .

Its like a general consensus that the universe has a beginning , Dalaman is just claiming these are guesses because they destroy his beliefs and hope for an eternal universe .

Why do you think Vilenkin made this comment ? cheesy

What the atheist scientists are trying to do so is to claim that there is a possibility that the universe came from utter nothingness uncaused .But of cause that's magic not science .

Just know that science has nothing to do with atheism , so I'm not sure why you think an eternal universe stops God from existing . It does not . We theists are arguing for a universe with a beginning because it makes God a personal God who has freedom of will to interfere in the affairs of the universe .

The deists and some panentheists are likely to accept an eternal universe because it makes God an impersonal God .

The argument is kinda complex because an eternal universe does not actually make God an impersonal God .
How does the universe having a beginning show that it was created by a single entity? Prove to us that the universe was created by a single entity. After that you also need to show us with evidence that this single entity cares about two gay men having sex somewhere in China. You also need to provide evidence showing us how this entity interferes in the andromida galaxy and how we can know that to be true.
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 6:51pm On Jan 17, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
It has been debunked already . Quantum mechanics does not prove an eternal universe in any way or from . And their work was based on modifying old ideas grin

Even Hawking said that Quantum theory actually predicts how the universe will begin . Pay attention to real scientists not attention seekers
They just showed that their model works and they explained it. Your reaction to it is that you do not agree with it without showing why it is wrong. After they published their work AlKen Guth( one of the most respected scholars in the field ) was asked to tell us if the universe had a beginning or not and he said he doesn't know. Scientist are only making assumptions. Origin science is not factual. It is only aimed at explaining what has been observed. I can throw out names as well. You keep throwing Steven Hawkings as if his position and opinion supercede that of other scientist. It doesn't. It's just like me throwing Richard Dawkins opinion on evolution as the only and factual position out there.

There is no consensus on the origin of the universe. All the models are just speculative at best.

I just got to discover that cosmology as we know it is based on so much speculation.
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 6:24pm On Jan 17, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Read Stephen Hawking's article , he addressed the beliefs in an eternal universe and why they are false

www.hawking.org.uk/the-beginning-of-time.html
He dd not address anything. He gave his own opinion. Other scientist have provided their own models that show that the universe is eternal and have answered his questions using quantum physics. But the reality is these are assumptions and speculations of people in the filed. They are not factual. Even the BIG bang model has been challenge and shown to be unable to account for many things, just the way evolution has been challenge but it still remains the best scientific model that explains the universe as we know it. It only explains it does not establish facts.
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman:
KingEbukasBlog:
Those are the people that claim science disproves theism . Now that science is ruthlessly tearing apart their atheistic beliefs , they are now shamelessly labeling everything as speculation .


Lmaoo !!!! grin grin
No one knows if the universe had a beginning what we have are just speculations. The Big bang model has so many problems and it fails to account for many things. It is the model that modern scientist have settled for. The big bang model is just like the theory of evolution. It is NOT factual but a theory based on assumptions, guesses and speculations. Allen Guth one of the most recognized scientists in that field has made that clear. Scientist are only working with the Big bang model and all it entails. Do they truly know if the universe had a beginning? No they don't. They just have different models . Jut recently two cosmologists published a peer reviewed paper that says the universe is eternal.

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/phys.org/news/2015-02-big-quantum-equation-universe.amp

But all these are just speculations. Since has NOT established if the universe has a beginning or not. Some models say the universe had a beginning others say it didn't. There is no scientific concensus on that.

Saying that the universe had a beginning is just the same thing as saying that all life forms evolved from single cell organisms.
There is scientific "proof" of this but we know it is only speculation and assumption.

Listen to what the scientist are saying.
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 5:36pm On Jan 17, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
that's IF there's a beginning
Sure.
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 5:29pm On Jan 17, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Since all matter , energy , space and time came into existence in the big bang , what else are you expecting to see beyond it huh
Scientific speculation.
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 5:28pm On Jan 17, 2017
felixomor:
Everything bros.
Eiya, its obvious u dont know that moon is part of the universe.


Those are some of the components of the universe.

The age of the earth corresponds to its beginning
Just as your age corresponds to your beginning
And so also the age of the universe's other components

Too much argument is not good.
Just listen to the type of questions u r asking.
We don't know much about the beginning of the universe .
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 5:00pm On Jan 17, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
The can't see beyond the big bang because that which is beyond it is not of this universe - its basic stuff bro . tongue .
Assumptions. They can't see beyond simply means they can't see beyond. Any other thing remains an assumption.
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 4:58pm On Jan 17, 2017
felixomor:
My God. What a question... wink
"What has age got to do with beginning?"

Please what has your age got to do with the beginning of your life?
What has the age of the sun and moon have to do with the universe having a beginning? You mentioned the moon. What has the age of the moon got to do with the universe having a beginning?
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 4:36pm On Jan 17, 2017
felixomor:
Stop saying lies and say "no one"
Then are u saying the scientists who estimated the age of the earth, moon etc
Are they foolish?

Guy, dont expose urself here.
If u r not a scientist, its not by force to look like one
What has the age of the moon or the sun got to do with the universe having a beginning? Scientists have stated that they can not see beyond the big bang, so what are you saying?
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 4:26pm On Jan 17, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
The same way a transcendent intelligent being that created the universe could in your perspective as one who seeks truth exist right ?
Why should I believe that a single entity created the universe? Where is the evidence that confirms that assumption?
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 4:25pm On Jan 17, 2017
felixomor:
Hehehehe......
Leave the bible.
Back up ur own statement that universe has no beginning..
No one has Ben able to show us that the universe had a beginning. We only have assumptions and suppositions. Which are not facts. Show the incontrovertible evidence that the universe as a whole began from nothing completely.
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 4:23pm On Jan 17, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
That's the same thing on Twitter . They don't want to be ridiculed . They understand that they have to explain how a universe with a finite past came from utter nothingness , so they keep reiterating that science does not have an answer to sustain their beliefs - this is clear delusion .

The scientists he mentioned are the ones who don't want to concede that the universe had a beginning because it strongly suggests that it was caused by God - the transcendent creator of the laws of science or the law-giver .
They are honest with their submissions. They aren't dogmatic like you guys are in religion. The universe doesn't seem to have an end. It is just expanding endlessly. Scientist can not see beyond the big bang. Where did all the matter come from? We don't know what the universe is, so how can we be speculatingabout it's begining when we don't even know if it's part of something.

[At least Hawking was bold enough to circumvent God by saying that God couldn't have created the universe because there was no time before the Big Bang . The simple answer to that 'conundrum' is that God is timeless without the universe and in time with the universe (God became temporal when It created the universe ) .

I think these scientists should bother themselves with understanding other exciting things about our amazing universe because the right questions have already been answered .
God creating the universe is an assumption. Show me the evidence that only one single entity created the universe. Where is the evidence?
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 4:14pm On Jan 17, 2017
felixomor:
I really wonder what that guy is driving to?
Doesnt he know that scientists have even used carbon dating etc to estimate the age of components of the universe? (All be it not acceptable to some people)

He is still going to end up in the bible, in case he doesn't know.
End up in which bible? The bible is a work of humans like you. Humans that aren't even as enlightened and knowledgeable as we are today.
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 3:38pm On Jan 17, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Sure ? That means you are certain that aliens don't exist ?
Even if aliens exist they are not what we see in the movies. Humans like us could be living in other parts of the universe. We just don't know.
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 3:10pm On Jan 17, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
The same way aliens are also concepts in Hollywood movies ... right?
Sure.
Christianity EtcRe: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by dalaman: 3:08pm On Jan 17, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Stop talking about evolution undecided and focus on the argument : every scientific evidence show the universe had a beginning . They are not assumptions , they are facts . Please read the article on Stephen Hawking's website . It is very certain that your faith on atheism is wavering because you think an eternal universe precludes God . cheesy

There is no evidence that the universe had an eternal past .

According to Stephen Hawking :

Although the laws of science seemed to predict the universe had a beginning, they also seemed to predict that they could not determine how the universe would have begun.

And Stephen Hawking went on to assume that the universe was created by the laws of physics but professor of Mathematics and scientist John Lennox came out and addressed Hawking's assumption : "Laws themselves do not create anything, they are merely a description of what happens under certain conditions. "

Here's Stephen Hawking's conclusion on his "Beginning of Time" article : The conclusion of this lecture is that the universe has not existed forever. Rather, the universe, and time itself, had a beginning in the Big Bang, about 15 billion years ago."

Wake up to reality and stop being deluded bro . Saying the universe is eternal is your emotions at work because it seems to destroy your atheistic faith .
Origin science is based mostly on assumptions. The light from the stars we are told are light that were emitted millions and billions of years ago and not what we are seeing at the moment. I don't care whether the universe is eternal or not. I just care about the facts and reality. We only know about less than 10% of the universe. Most of what is in the less than 19% that we know is dark energy something scientist do not even understand fully.

We don't know what the universe is. Even if the universe had a beginning for sure we clearly do not know what is responsible for it. No scientist makes the claim. We ate only left with pure speculation.

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