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Butterflyleo:
Romans 8:16


This was why the Bible says " GOD IS A SPIRIT and he is seeking those who will WORSHIP HIM IN SPIRIT and in truth.

And why it says in 1 Corinthians 3:16



And also in John 16:13



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And also in Romans 8:9



If you like disbelieve the above. Does it change anything? Nope

Does your atheistic view count for anything in the long run? Nope

It hasn't from others more important and renowned than you and before you and it certainly wouldn't count now. So enjoy your 2 seconds of fame

What is this puerile thrash? You are now quoting empty talk from a mythical book that does NOT in any way address what I've stated.

You are children of God abi? If indeed this statement isn't a false and delusional statement can you proof it to me? The statement is empty as me saying that am an the child of the sun. It's an empty and delusional statement.

You also claim thatn the Spirit of God dwells in you, and then dropped this from the bible:

"But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.


Which truth does this spirit guide you to? Is it the spirit of your God that guides you to tell all the lies you are known for here? Is it the spirit that guides you to plagiarize stuffs and deceptively post them here as yours? Is it the spirit that guides you when you are throwing insults and engaging in your various acts of hypocrisy? Where is this spirit in your actions and behavior? Or are these things all you have to show for it?

Keep deluding yourself thinking you have something special that others don't because you subscribeto ancient mythology. You can't give what you don't have.

Butterflyleo:
You need to go back to school for seeking PHYSICAL EVIDENCE for A SPIRITUAL ENTITY.

Smh. Ignorance overload.

And when I ask you if God exists you say no but are unable to show proof of your claim that he does not exist.

As an atheist you should be able to have access to empirical proof of this shouldn't you? And that's because that is what you subscribe to. THE NATURAL.

Can I view your NATURAL PROOF that supports the non existence of God?

You claim your God is spiritual but all your interactions with him are either physical or natural. You claim you speak with him which is a natural act, you guys beg him to act in nature and also claim he acts in nature by doing things to favor your in one way or the other, you worship him through natural means by singing, hailing and praising him.
Every thing and method of interaction between you and this God of yours is through natural means. Yet this God is outside nature and not part of nature. If he isn't part of nature then why don't you interact with him through the so called spiritual means that isn't natural na.

You just keep pushing your God to the realm of the unknown so that you can remain deluded.

CAROLINA!!!!

winner01:
Bro GoodMuyis, this is fantastic!!!.

Its funny how Hardmirror, Dalaman, Capslocked and other atheists think:

1. They posses the ability to probe the existence of their Maker
2. The existence of their Maker can be subjected and scrutinized within the confines of one aspect of His creation
3. The trails of creative intelligence left everywhere by their Maker is not enough proof of Creation
4. They reserve the rights to demand that their Maker proves to them He exists, else they will not believe in such existence
5. Their unbelief has an adverse effect on their Maker

Its funny, but continue .

Ogbeni, show that Yahweh exist outsude your imaginations already or keep quiet.

trapQ:
Did the "church fathers of the early Roman empire"
die for your sins?
Were their births prophesied a thousand years or thereabouts earlier?
Did they say they were the way, truth and life?
Did they come down from heaven?
Did they have power to forgive sins?
Why are Christians termed "Christ like" (Jesus Christ-like)

What is this nonsense you are talking about?

What ever it is that Jesus was written to have said were written by books the church father's produced and presented. The Gospels were named and selected by the church fathers, the Christian theology and all the various creeds were formulated by them. If not for the church fathers there wouldn't have been a new testament. They voted and selected the books that make up the new testament. They ascribed authorship to all the books. They edited them to fit what ever narrative it wad that they wanted.

Example, if they had chosen Peter and said he wrote the letters assign to Paul, you would have believed that it was Peter. The formed the theology and doctrines that various sects adhere to.

God only heals amputees in the pages of mythical story books.

sKeetz:
Reading through the comments, I can't help but shudder at the way so called Christians like that butterfly guy Lie with impunity all in a bid to defend his imaginary sky daddy who cannot defend himself.

I mean his lies and skewed logic gymnastics is so obvious but he can't help it. That guy should be awarded a doctorate in lies.

He's the resident Mr lie lie, butterflyliar.

Papertrail11:
The guys are not the problem the girls are as a matter of fact compared to the early millienial years to know not many pple have girlfriends compared to then hookup culture ti take over the girls are not giving young guys a chance

In the future we will have men who will look women and tell em they dont give a Bleep

More cases of gender wars...

Guys have their own very big wahala too when it comes to relationship. Many guys are just difficult to love with their many many wahala.

CAPSLOCKED:

UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAN'T. SELFISHNESS AND GREED ARE PART OF THE HUMAN NATURE.

Thses are the things that makes it hard to love and treat people well over extended period of time.

Relationships are hard, good relationships be it marriage or just normal healthy boyfriend and girlfriend relationship don't just happen, they are built meticulously and painstakingly.

Building and maintaining a good and healthy relationship that is selfless over a long time is what most people find very hard to sustain. Many can try at the beginning but most give up along the way and go back to their default and natural self.

Christianity was founded by many people over time. NOT even Paul himself because no body knows any Paul outside the alleged letters the Church father's said he wrote.

The church fathers of the early Roman empire were the founders of Christianity. What ever they said and established is what people have come to accept as the truth.

butterflylion:
Its a mockery of intelligence to actually equate Gods intelligence to those of men despite having foreknowledge that God does not exist in the realm of men.

You disappoint me when you fail to think.

So God does not exist in the realm of men yet you somehow get to interact with this God? You claim you even experience him as a man but he still doesn't exist in the relm of men abi? If God doesn't exist in the same realm as men do, how did you get to know that it exist at all so much so that you are always speaking for it and telling people how it acts and behave when you feel they aren't getting it right?

Continue we are listening

butterflylion:
You need to learn to stay put on one spot rather than bringing Muslim arguments when talking with a christian. Its pathetic.

It's not. Just showing you that you are NOT the only one that can throw out ridiculous and outlandish claims. I understand how painful it is because the Islamic claim always shows you how ridiculous and senseless your absurd claims are so much so that you don't want me to use it when pointing out tour stupidity at you.

The ancient Jews claim that their God told them to exterminate different civilizations and you believe them without any evidence at ALL. Some Muslims also claim that Allah say that they should exterminate some people and establish his system.

Why do you accept one and discard the other despite the fact that you have NO evidence to show for both of them?

You don't just like your folly been shown to you right in your face and I understand.

CAPSLOCKED:

I DOUBT Y'ALL WILL EVER UNDERSTAND...

Roger!

butterflylion:
Can the maker of a car be hated for destroying his own creation?

Your own logic is lost on you.

What is this nonsense? Which God appeared to you personally and told you that he sent any body to kill on his behalf? Some deluded and primitive land grabbers wrote tales on how they supposedly exterminated others because their God told them and here you are trying to justify it.

Do you like what Allah's foot soldiers are dping all over the world today? After all you can not hate them because the maker of a car can not be hated for destroying his own creation.

You seriously need to re-read some of the nonsense you type before posting it.

butterflylion:
At 10 I held no belief. Neither did I hold any at 19 years of age. My parents were core traditionalists so where you came about christian indoctrination is beyond me. My formerly tradionalist side is why I came to like someone like vaxx who I was once like.

I know you are lying. At 19 you claim you had no belief but somehow you were formerly a traditionalist eh? Yeye dey smell I'll soon expose your lies. Just wait.

butterflylion:
The one hurting is clearly you all day everyday on this God issue but of course you always pass the buck

Lying and saying things about me because you want them to be true can and will never make them true.

God remains and idea that I'd why we are discussing and arguing about most of the time here.

If your God exist as advertised you will NEVER make any case for it. It will do it itself since according to the hypothesis it wants people to know that it exist and also WANT be in a relationship with them.

butterflylion:
Lmao. Emotionally attached you say? Scroll back to the OP and see who has subconscious emotional attachments still to an already claimed non existent God

Sorry to burst your precious bubble but indoctrination never happened to me because I did not come from a christian family and neither was I abused.

Sorry for your hurt.

You've started with your lies. At what age did you ever step your feet into a church? At what age did you first get to hear about Jesus and the stories that were written about him? Your family doesn't have to be Christian for you to be indoctrinated into the Christian religion. When you were 10 years old, which God did you believe in? Was it Allah, Brahma or Yahweh and can you tell us why?

Butterflyleo:
How you cannot see your own error is amazing

Atheists are still the ones talking so much about a supposed non existent God. What part of God does not exist do they not understand?

For something not to exist it means IT HAS NO REALITY. Why then do you get so fixated on what you claim has no reality and talk about it as if it indeed had a reality?

You try to assess him based on the attributes you say are found in the bible but you fail to realise that you should not even be assessing him with anything BECAUSE TO YOU HE DOES NOT EXIST!

What you are actually doing all day every day is simply trying to reaffirm to yourself that he does not exist and not that you truly have accepted that he does not exist.

Read this over and over again and the light will dawn on you.

You are a childish spinner.

Gods do not exist but people that believe Godshe exist are everywhere. It is these people we argue and debate with about what ever concept an idea of God they claim exist.

Just the other day you were celebrating that US moved it's embassy to Jerusalem as fulfillment of some divine order, you throw bible verses at people to show that them it is a divine book and not a book of Jewish mythology , I disagree that the bible is divine and will always show you that it remains a book of ancient Jewish mythology.

If people that believe in God stop talking about their God's openly, you won't see any atheist talking about any God.

Your constant attempt to make a case for a God that you claim exist as advertised shows that it exist only inside your head. No God that exist as advertised will ever depend on you to make any case for it.

That reality is what is hurting you badly.

HardMirror:
the situation is worse. doctors and professors believe too. my dad had to go through a series of surgeries and it is funny how strong a christian he is and how he and mum spiritualize everything, yet god could not heal him, but science did.

Yet all the credit will go to God instead of the doctors and the drugs that healed him.

Butterflyleo:
Lmao

How passionately do you engage in Zeus chats as you do about God?

Declaring God exists to you always triggers some passionate response about his alleged non existence from you atheists.

The key to your problem and the answer to your problems lies in when you begin to question why you must always pick offence or become passionate whenever comments like God exists are mentioned

Subconscious reality is evident all over you guys but you will always fail to see it.

You are very emotionally attached to your beliefs and as such you always use emotions when talking about your beliefs. He can not talk about Zeus because he was not raised and forcefully indoctrinated to accept the Zeus mythology, he was raised and forcefully indoctrinated and made to accept the Jesus mythology, failure to do so he was told had dire consequences. It is that indoctrination and child abuse he is trying to undo by challenging the entire belief system. Since there is no God to challenge, he can only challenge those that believe in the concept of God he was indoctrinated with as a child.

If God exist we will have God and not arguments for or against. If God exist you will NEVER make any case for it. It will do that itself.

Butterflyleo:
I could also say that you are the evidence that God exists because you are always talking about a God you already claimed does not exist.

I talk about God just the way you talk about evolution. Does evolution exist because you talk about it a lot of times? I talk with people that believe in God which is an idea about the idea (God). You believe in the idea and always try to make a case for it, I disbelieve in the idea and always try to show you that the idea isn't what you are saying it is. If God exist I'll be talking and arguing with it and NOT with you.

Last time I checked, for something not to exist means it shouldn't even cross your mind at all not to even make you talk about it so passionately.

Your passionate talk about evolution means it exist abi?

If God doesn't exist as you claim then you would not be constantly dwelling on him and talking about him.

Do you talk about orieegujakbfbdiebnans? You don't!

Why? It does not exist.
Savvy?

I talk about God because people believe in the idea, I don't talk to any God because none exist, I only talk to people that believe in the God of a about their Gods.

What is orieegujakbfbdiebnans?

Godpolymath:
Have you seen when Nigerian christians claim to be descendant of Abraham,I never believed brainwashing is real till i saw the world from a different perspective.

Religionis a culture war and we Africans have lost it totally. It is only Africans that mostly trace their origins to the Jewish or Arabic ancestry because they have totally lost out of the culture wars. I am presently in Nigeria and was listening to a Muslim preacher preaching not long ago in my friend's office, he is a Muslim and was playing the tafsir on his laptop when I entered, he left for like 20 mins to attend to some clients outside while I listened . The preacher saw reality through the ideas of the ancient people that wrote the Koran and the culture they were trying to establish. It is this same reality he was trying to make his listeners to accept as the only true reality.

We will always be second fiddles to these people as long as we continue to view reality through their cultural outlook. We have totally lost the culture war. Else how will a Nigerian man be shouting that Abraham is his father as if he is mentally unstable.

HardMirror:
knockout!
man is always the one speaking for god. fighting for god. acting for god. so much for a god that exists

The version of the God he believes exist is the oNE called Yahweh, who according to the tale acknowledges many many times that he is the God of the Jews.

HardMirror:
i only say god does not exist because there is already an existing claim that god exists. i am asking for that evidence.

why am i not asking for prove that thhdefeuodnbnd6ddekdohsdgdjsdkisdhdbdkdidhsksksishsnsksuishsjskushskslsishsj does not exist? because nobody has said it exists. so my doubt is founded on an existing premise. an i am saying that premise has no evidence.

So God exist and it is him and lovemijeje that are telling you about it. The other day he was telling Frank that Jesus loves him endlessly. So Jesus a being we are told is alive and has greater abilities than butterflyleo exist, according to the tale we are told that he loves Frank endlessly and wants to be in a relationship with Frank but some how it is butterflyleo that is telling Frank about the endless love Jesus has for him.

These deluded guys don't think through the nonsense they spew before spewing it. If you call them deluded tthey'll start crying baa baa meh meh.

Butterflyleo:
Sorry the burden of proof is with whoever makes any claim

Claim 1: God exists

Claim 2: God does not exist.

I am sure your next line of argument would be that one does not prove a negative right?

Well so you know, whenever anyone makes any claim it comes from a place of KNOWLEDGE and KNOWLEDGE can be proven. So with this you can prove your negative which states that God does not exist.

You are the evidence that God does not exist. If any God exist you will NOT be telling us about it. It will tell us about itself. The fact that you are advocating for a God about its existence says it all. A God that supposedly exist and wants people to know that it exist will NOT rely on you to make ANY case for it. If a God exist and wants people to know that it exist as advertised people will know about its existence and every body will do that in the same way.

gods are different from God.

What is the difference between God and Gods? What can God do that the Gods can't?

HardMirror:
expect him to start foaming like a rabid dog. no be butterfly wey we don know for ages?

He believes in a God that is an IDEA and a CONCEPTION of HUMAN beings. It is this IDEA that he is always trying to explain and rationalize everyday here, yet he still wants to berate an atheist for having a perception of God when all he has is a perception of an IDEA that humans created and decided to label it as God.

Butterflyleo:
Someone sits and imagines what God must be like and decides to make a video based on his own perception of God but not based on the actual REALITY of God so from the very beginning of the video we have all shades of human bias and atheist stupidity at play ad he tries so hard to rationalise the God being in his puny atheistic human mind.

What is the reality of God and how did you personally get to know about this reality. How can this "reality" be demonstrated to be real?

Let all.the Gods learn to speak for themselves.

Very possible, deist believe in a God but not in any religion.