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butterflylion:
I told you snakes once walked as inferred by the Bible when we break down the very words God used when cursing the serpent.

Lies, we can infer from the bible and say that snakes once flew.

I already knew what science had to say, same way I knew they said snakes once had limbs 150 million years ago. Same way I also knew they said the limb generating mechanism was switched off. You think I am like you who does not carry out my research properly?

Which research? You think plagiarism something you are notoriously known for here is research abi? Well done.

Setting you up is always fun for me because I knew you would dig up what science said because it is common knowledge on the internet and you did just that which turned around to bite you in the arse for rejecting when I said snakes once walked when you were saying they could have been flying or "humping" or standing still.

Na you use dagger stab yourself

You know very well that I was referring to the bible. We could say that snakes flew or hopped according to the bible. No were was it written inside the bible that snakes once walked. What ever you sails remains your own assumption. If I insist that snakes were flying according to the bible, you have no evidence from the bible to show that my position is not true.

butterflylion:
LMAO you and I know that the shameless one is you. I repeatedly told you that snakes once walked but you insisted that they could have been flying or "humping" or standing still.

You told me that snakes once walked accordingto science or the bible?

Now you have seen scientists say the same thing I said which was inferred form the statement made by God as a curse to the serpent that it shall from now begin to crawl on its belly (which meant that it was walking or crawling but not always on its belly) but now it must be always. You kept on denying this and once again science proves me right and you wrong.

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Where was it written inside the bible that snakes once walked? Where was it written? If I insisit that according to the bible snakes were flying in the past before they were allegedly cursed to crawl on their bellies, what evidence do you have to disprove it?

You thought that science has nothing to say about the limbs of snakes and what it was used for and dared me to show you. Now that I have shown you you are trying to do your butterflyl1on lie lie dance.

You are shameless. The bible did not say snakes once walked. It is left for you to show where it says they did.

butterflylion:
Oh so now you know they were walking on legs. I thought you said they could have been flying or hopping or standing still despite when I told you they walked.

Do you see how you are confusing yourself by yourself?

You are shameless. I want you to show me where the bible says that snakes walked with their limbs?

That has been what we have been arguing about. Stop trying to feign ignorance.

If I insist that according to the bible snakes were flying you have NO evidence from the bible to show that they weren't.

butterflylion:
LMAO and you forget you actually said they could be hopping (humping) flying or standing still and I told you that none of those can happen without limbs.

Now can you show me where scientists said exactly what snakes use their arms and legs for?

I dey wait.

They used their legs for movement from one place to another.

"Snakes used to wander the Earth on legs about 150 million years ago, before they shifted from strut to slither."

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/10/20/498575639/how-snakes-lost-their-legs.

What did they use their limbs for according to the bible?

OkCornel:
Sir, please how does this contradict the Genesis account?

The Genesis account as I was trying to show him did not tell us if snakes were flying or walking with their limbs before they lost it after the alleged curse.

He on the other hand was lying that scientists didn't know what the snakes used their limbs for before they lost it.

butterflylion:
Flying with wings ----- still limbs

Hopping ---- still on limbs

Walking ----- still on limbs.

Paint it any which way you please. It's all about the limbs. Even scientists do not know what the snakes used their limbs for 150million years ago (as they claim). All they say is that it had limbs.

Will you keep quiet and stop telling lies. According to scientists snakes had arms and legs they used unlike the bible that can not tell you if they had wings or arms and legs.


"The ancestors of today's slithery snakes once sported full-fledged arms and legs, but genetic mutations caused the reptiles to lose all four of their limbs about 150 million years ago, according to two new studies."

https://www.livescience.com/56573-mutation-caused-snakes-to-lose-legs.html

MuttleyLaff:
... and what the heck is this humping all about now?
Do you know something others don't know ni?

Dry humping

butterflylion:
Flying with wings or walking on limbs all are limbs.
You can keep arguing with yourself

Was the snake flying, or humping before it started crawling on its belly?

butterflylion:
Kindly shut your mouth if you have e nothing worthwhile to say.

1) Science claims snakes once walked on limbs as far back as 150 million years ago.

2) The book of Genesis was written almost 4000 years ago.

How could an alleged unscientific book written by unscientific people have gotten right what science first denied then later agreed to and said this was so 150 million years ago?

If you say it was evolution, were the bible writers there 150 million years ago to witness that the snake once walked on limbs?

How did they manage to get it right? How come God said so as a curse to the serpent?

Please note: scientists say that the limb growing mechanism in snakes is still there but was simply SWITCHED OFF. Why? Who switched it off?

I suggest you research this and see the truth for yourself instead of posting nonsensical stuff up and down

Will you shut up your lying mouth. So you believe it when scientist tell you that snakes once had legs but refuse to believe when the same scientist tell you that humans evolved from ancient hominids because it disagrees with the Jewish mythology written inside the bible abi?

The writers of the bible did NOT tell you that snakes were crawling on their limbs before they started crawling on their bellies. They could be flying, it wasn't stated you are just using your empty assumptions as usual.

fellowman:
The Bible also said man was made out of the dust of the Earth. They have been scientific evidence to show that traces of minerals in the earth are also in our body.

Do you think the Bible was wrong on this one?

Do you know what it means to say that something is made up of dust? The writers of the bible do NOT know what human beings are made up of. Of they did they would have stated it.

butterflylion:
Don't you like reading anymore? It also confirms that snakes flick their tongue off the ground. Maybe it's flicking it's tongue off a McDonalds burger and not the ground which is made up or dirt, dust and soil.

Ogbeni, where is it written that snakes eat dust all their lives in the scientific journals? Show me na.

butterflylion:
Wings are simply limb extensions.

As always you didn't know that.

I posted good news translation for you which shows it was never originally a crawling creature. It wasn't a tree so wasnt stationary.

If it was humping then it had a limb. If it was stationary then it had limbs because it stood on something

Whatever you have to offer shows it had limbs "of some kind". Simple as ABC.

Wings are NOT limbs. They are NOT the same that much is very clear.

It wasn't a crawling creature but a flying creature originally.

Ogbeni, where does it say that snakes have limbs? No christian blogs to plagiarize from?

butterflylion:
Yet the scientific journals say the so called apologist websites are right. So who is the lying rat?

. You've finally acknowledge abi. Well done. Where does the scientific journal say that snakes eat dust? Show me!

butterflylion:
LMAO childish as usual. If something isn't crawling what would it be Doing? Staying still? Show me one animal or reptile that is a stationary creature oh Lord of liars.

Snakes were not crawling creatures originally as declared by the Bible which was why God now said THEY WILL NOW CRAWL.

This is good news translation

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It clearly says FROM NOW ON. which means it wasn't so originally. If something wasn't crawling on its belly before this means it was walking or flying.

If it walked it had limbs.
If it flew it had limbs too

So either way it had limbs. Keep on lying to yourself.

Where is the limb mentioned? It could be flying, stationary, humping or jumping . It wasn't stated. Where does it say it had limbs? I could say it had wings and was flying before it was cursed to start crawling and you can't have any thing to counter it. Just show me where it says the snake had limbs instead of throwing your useless opinion and assumptions at me.

butterflylion:
LMAO take out your childish deception and kiddie anger on the scientific journals which corroborate my posts.

Why have you not called those ones liars as well?

You obviously have no iota of shame in you and will even lie to yourself in the face of truth.

Ogbeni after copying and pasting something word for word from an apologist blog you are still here yapping thrash abi? Continue, my own is to always expose your thieving ways. Mr lying rat.

butterflylion:
This is you now about to enter another rant knowing you have nowhere to run anymore

Did you not post that the snake tastes the ground? Have you no shame?

How can you enjoy lying to yourself like this?

And I asked you to also dare to call the scientific journals liars as well since they also made the same declaration. Can you?

Ogbeni I showed you the christain apologist blog that you plagiarized from and show you how you lifted the words from the apologist blog word for word and changed some of it a lil as you always do when stealing other people's materials.

You went to drop websites at me when I clearly showed you that what you wrote was taken almost word for word from the Christian apologist blog.

Learn to have some shame pls. The other I caught you red handed plagiarizing and your excuse was that it states what you believe bla bla bla. Learn to have some shame.

butterflylion:
Genesis 3:14



That clearly shows you that it originally was not crawling on its belly. If it was crawling on its belly originally then what God pronounced wouldn't be a curse. Tell me your own common sense if blocked to that too.

If someone is rich and you wish to curse the person you will not say " you will be rich all the days of your life" will you? He already is rich so nothing said there.

However you will say something detrimental to his riches such as " you will suddenly come to poverty".

I know you will also wish to argue this so knock yourself out.

The bible does NOT say that snakes had limbs. It only says that they'll crawl on their bellies and eat dust all their lives. The snake could be stationary, humping or flying animals , the bible did not say. It only said they will crawl , that doesn't mean that they had limbs. That remains your own assumption. No where does the bible mention that snakes had limbs. Until you show that you can keep your opinion and empty assumptions to your self.

Where is the scientific journal that says snakes eat dust all their lives? Where is it?

butterflylion:

Gotcha !!!!




The other articles said clearly IT TASTES THE GROUND. Even you posted same but deceptively tried to avoid that part until I put it up in red bold fonts for you.



1) it picks up dust on its tongue

2. It tastes the ground.

Why not take it out on the scientific journals which also say it tastes the ground. Or are they also liars?

Ogbeni what are you saying? I just posted what you wrote and exactly how it matches the words from the christian apologist blog. Instead of acknowledging you are still posting it for me again. Have you no shame? What is wrong with you? Your mental illness don start again abi? Na wah oo.

butterflylion:
See them! Deceivers and liars!

Shamelessly asking him to live a life of deceit rather than truth. Tomorrow they will come here and claim morality.

Bunch of hypocrites!

Are you not living a life of deceit by believing that the ancient mythology , folklore and fiction of the ancient Jews and Romans is real?

butterflylion:
In a nutshell, you are advising him to live a life of deceit and hypocricy.

To you deceit is nothing just like Adidas declared "impossible is nothing".

Keep up the good "deceptive " work seun.

I find it shocking that some people actually see you as a role model if you can make such unguarded remarks.

Is your own life not a life of deceit? Are you not living a life of deceit?

butterflylion:
Bloody liar. Show me where I said it was figurative oh ye lying one and Lord of liars.

1) the bible proved that snakes once had limbs (science confirms this)

2) I now show that in accordance with the scriptures that snakes take in dust ALL THEIR LIVES (science also confirms this)

You can continue assuring yourself that I am wrong by deliberately lying to yourself.

Where does the bible say that snakes once had limbs? Where does the bible talk about snakes having limbs? Just show me where the bible say that snakes had limbs before.

The bible says snakes will eat dust all their lives but you are now lying and trying to spin it to say take in dust. It did NOT say take in dust you liar. It says eat dust. There is a difference btw eating and taking in your shameless liar.

Science does not confirm that snakes eat dust all their lives you shameless liar. Keep lying for Jesus .

butterflylion:
Chai chai

Do you see how you expose yourself?

Is this a christian apologetic site?

https://theconversation.com/amp/explainer-why-do-snakes-flick-their-tongues-29935


Dalaman is this a christian apologetic site?

https://academic.oup.com/chemse/article/37/9/883/327681

And this?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22942105/#fft

They both say the same thing as I earlier posted. So who is the liar now?

Below is an extract.

You are shameless as always. What you wrote down was copied word for word from the christian apologist website. Let me show you.

From the christian apologist blog. This is what was written :

Jacobson’s organ. It is located in the roof of the snake’s mouth and helps its sense of smell in addition to using its nose. [/b]The snakes tongue shoots out and picks up samples of dust on the forked section of its tongue. Not surprisingly, these forked sections of tongue have matching sensory organs in the roof of its mouth. [b]Once the snake uses the dust to “smell” it in this fashion, the tongue is cleaned off for the next sample.

This is what you wrote :

butterflylion:

There is an organ in the roof of a snake’s mouth called "Jacobson’s organ". This helps the snake to smell in addition to its nose. Its darting, forked tongue samples bits of dust in the air or by directly tasting the ground and picking them up on the points of the fork on it's tongue, which it then presents to its matching pair of sensory organs inside its mouth. Once it has "smelt" them in this way, the tongue must be cleaned so the process can be repeated immediately.

See how very similar the wordings are? Show me from the links you posted any such similar wordings you shameless liar and renowned plagiarist. Keep thievinglike a demented rat

butterflylion:
I don't think you followed our discussion. You say I said it was figurative UNTIL I mentioned the Jacobson's organ? Are you for real?

Can you show me where I said it was figurative oh you liar.

I simply said eating does not have to mean a literal eating but an ingestion and this has been proven now.

You can keep on lying.

You said it wasn't literal. When something isn't literal what then does it mean? To ingest something simply means to eat it. So what are you saying?

The bible says snakes will eat dust all their lives and crawl on their belies. You agree with them crawling on their bellies literally but you refuse to accept that they eat dust because you know it is a lie. All you can do is to run to christian apologist blog and plagiarize their nonsense like a thieving rat. You are shameless.

butterflylion:
You first claimed dust does not go into the mouth of the snake now that it has been proven and even you have said so, you have now shifted to where it says it swallows it.

1. Snakes use their tongue to directly touch the ground

2. The ground has dirt, soil, dust, minerals

3. The snake picks up this dust on the tip of its forked tongue and takes the tongue INTO its mouth along with the dust it just picked up.

4. It now cleans the tongue while it's INSIDE THE MOUTH immediately after the Jacobson's organ has smelt the content of the tongue.

5. Since the tongue passes through the mouth of the snake and gets cleaned INSIDE THE MOUTH, what happens to stuff that are in our mouth when we do not spit it out (because it clearly says the snake cleans the tongue BEFORE it flicks it out again)

Keep on deceiving and lying to yourself despite knowing the truth.

Ogbeni stop giving me your usless opinion that is as useless as the K in Knife. Just show me where snakes eat dust instead of plagiarizing articles from christian apologist blogs.

You always allow people to reason for you. The only time you reasoned for your self you stated that it was figurative . After allowing the apologist to reason for you, now you are parroting their nonsense like a demented goat.

butterflylion:
The Jacobson's organ does not function until the tongue takes in what it needs to smell. For the tongue to do this, it deliberately flicks into the air or directly touches the ground when tracking prey.

And nowhere did I say the jacobsons organ is used to eat anything. I have always mentioned the tongue as the tool for taking in anything into the mouth. If I did, paste it here Mr liar.

Even a little child can see how you are desperate to stay afloat despite what even kindergarten pupils can see as the obvious truth there. But trust a deceptive adult like you to keep lying to yourself.

Shut up you liar. You have been saying that the bible statement is figurarive until you went to a christian apologist website to copy their lies about the Jacobson’s organ used to smell dust particles in the air which they spinned as eating dust. Keep telling lies . Jesus must be very proud of you.

I just did a simple google search and discovered that butterflyl1on plagiarized his usless lies from a christian apologist blog. This is the website

http://www.mikeschristiancorner.com/contradiction19.html

It seems everything they said there about the function of the Jacobson’s organ is even a lie. They just spinned it to show that snakes swallow dust so that it will show that it agrees with the bible.

Once I realized that Mr lie lie butterflyl1on refused to drop the link to where he plaigairised the writing I knew that something was wrong.

butterflylion:
This was the comment from dalaman which he copied from me



So since the tongue must be cleaned INSIDE THE MOUTH before it flicks it out again, how is this done and where does the cleaned off debris go?

By the way he did not say it expels from its mouth. He said IT COULD BE EXPELLED FROM OUT OF THE BODY (i hope you know there is a difference) so stop lying and trying to sound smart when you clearly are not.

For example when we sweat, WE EXPELL MOISTURE THROUGH OUR SKIN.

Again I repeat, we are specifically talking about snakes and we have been able to establish that:

1) They directly touch the ground with their tongue

2) They directly take in dust through their tongue

3) While inside their mouth their tongue is cleaned off the dust it took in so it can repeat the process of flicking its tongue all over again so it can take in more and more dust in repeated processes.

Conclusion

Snakes DIRECTLY take in dust no matter how small and they have so far not complained to wirinet or dalaman about it.

You have NOT been able to establish anything. You have ONLY been able to lie and throw out wild assumptions.

Where does it say that it takes in dust? Show us and stop giving us your usless opinion and assumptions. Just show us where it says that it takes in dust.
Your book of mythology says snakes are to eat dust all their lives. Show us where it says that snakes eat dust instead of giving us your usless opinions. Remember you stared out by LYING that it was a figurative, now you are trying to lie that snakes have an organ called Jacobson's organ that helps that eat dust when the article you plagiarized says it is used to smell dust particles in the air . Remain a liar for Jesus. He murder be very proud of you.

butterflylion:
Ogbeni it says clearly that the snakes tongue is cleaned before it flicks it out again. So tell me how this cleaning process happens since the tongue comes out through the mouth.

Surely it is not cleaned by the wind or by rainfall or by a personal maid in the snakes mouth so how is it cleaned and where does the cleaned mess go?

For you to even say the dust could be expelled OUT the snakes body this means IT FIRST GOES INTO the body.

So where does it go? The snakes heart? Eyes? Stomach? Tail?

Keep deliberately lying to yourself despite knowing the truth.

For ot to be cleaned means the snake does not need it and consider it as an impurity. No where does it say it first goes inside the body. That is your your own making and remains a lie .

Where does it say in your plagiarized article that the snake Swallows the dust? I don't want your useless opinion and assumption on this matter. Just show me where it says that snakes eat dust all their lives Mr lie lie.

butterflylion:


And instead if responding he goes off on his usual expected rant when cornered.

Dalaman when food falls on the ground and you pick it up and eat it, is it only the food you just ate or you also just ate everything in particle form it touched on the ground?

The funny thing is that you know I am on point but will still argue till you shrivel up and drop dead.

If the tongue of the snakes passes through its mouth to touch the ground directly and picks up dust particles directly and passes through its mouth to get to the Jacobson's organ in order to decipher smell, and thereafter needs to be cleaned, tell me how it is cleaned since it passes through the mouth and where the particles cleaned off it goes to. Is it to the snakes brain or to its heart or down its belly?

You can Phone a friend or ask the audience if you still deceptively insist you do not know the answer.

The dust could be expelled out of the body it is not stated. Saying that the dust is swallowed is your own MAKING and empty assumption.

Show us where it says that the dust is eaten or remain a liar.

butterflylion:
Again from your own post I helped you put the part you skipped in red bold fonts.

So tell us dalaman, how is the snakes tongue cleaned and where does the stuff cleaned off it go to? Into its brain or down it's throat?

Please share with us.

Ogbeni where does it say that the Jacobson’s organ is used for eating dust?

The cleaned stuff is emitted out. If the dustbin important as a diet it won't be cleaned off .

The disgusting thing about you and your lies is that you started off by saying that the bible verse was figurative with your silly example of when you were kids you tell someone before you start running that he will eat yiur dust as an example to show that the bible was speaking figuratively. Suddenly you have now changed your position after going to christians apologist site to plaigairised what ever nonsense it is you saw about Jacobson's organ.

This is the nonsense written inside your book of mythology and fiction:

the LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, "Cursed are you above all livestock and all wild animals! You will crawl on your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life.

Am yet to see any sbake that eats any dust. You are yet to show me where it says that Jacobson's Organ is used for eating dust. It clearly says it is used to smell the air including dust particles in the air. As the lair that you are you have turned it to mean eating dust. Keep lying for Jesus. He must be very proud of you .

butterflylion:
Call me liar 1 billion times will not change the truth. Even from what you posted here I helped you put in red what you deliberately skipped

What does that portion in red say? Want to tell us?

Let's all pretend DIRECTLY TASTING THE GROUND is not in that article shall we?

Samples bits of dust in the air and on the ground is NOT the same thing as eating dust you shameless liar.

It then goes on to say that Once it has "smelt" them in this way, the tongue must be cleaned so the process can be repeated immediately.
Keep telling sweet lies for Jesus, he must be very proud of you.

wirinet:
In all you your screengrabs, nowhere did it state that the snakes uses it tongue to collect dust. Dust is not even mentioned anywhere. The tongue is used to collect chemical traces (scents) from the air or ground. The first screen grab put it nicely.
" The moist tongue collects scents and small organisms from wherever it touches and from the air around it".

The guy is an unrepentant liar for Jesus.