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Christianity EtcRe: A Question Directed To The Atheist by dalaman: 10:32am On Feb 18, 2018
Hier:
Give me your address, I will be coming with much Cains, because I'm his ambassador. Trump doesn't need to come to Nigeria, he has an ambassador in Nigeria
Trump is human and very limited. Your God is alleged to be everywhere, almighty and can do all things. Any God that makes you his ambassador is a fool.
Christianity EtcRe: A Question Directed To The Atheist by dalaman:
Hier:
.Its not about who wrote it, it's about who inspired it. the messenger is not greater than the message slowpoke

the fact I gave you a letter to deliver to someone or give you a message to deliver to someone doesn't invalidate my existence.
If your God called atheist fools in the bible then your God is a greater and bigger fool. Tell him to come and beat me.
Christianity EtcRe: A Question Directed To The Atheist by dalaman: 6:56am On Feb 18, 2018
debolayinka:
The bible is God's word and not any man's. Since you don't believe in God then keep shut and don't cry, okay?
The bible is man's word. I won't keep shut. Who ever wrote that atheist are fools inside the bible is a bigger fool. Go and call police.
Christianity EtcRe: A Question Directed To The Atheist by dalaman: 6:50am On Feb 18, 2018
debolayinka:
To many atheist, God does not exist, but satan does!

Fools!

No be me call them, na wetin bible talk.
Satan doesn't exist. Who ever called atheist fools in the bible is a bigger fool.
Christianity EtcRe: A Question Directed To The Atheist by dalaman:
ItzChinnex:
Atheists are those who neither believe in God/dieties nor spiritualities I guess.
If you argue with an Atheist, he may want to use natural logic in ungrounding your many points about the Metaphysics which no doubt, many youngish has fell victims.

It is apposite to note that, even the Atheists on Nairaland and Nigeria in General knows that, Ritual killings for money is naturally based on the connection between this world and the other world, and they believe it to be real because valid and empirical evidence are on display just like the 'Yahoo boys.'
Here is the question:

Since they don't believe in Metaphysicals and Spiritualities, how would they best describe the Ritualists, G+ Yahoo Boys, The Ogboni Confraternities?
* Does this mean these people kill for no reason?
* Are the prepared charms fake and fortifications hallucination?

Answers..

Lalasticlala , Seun , Mynd44 ,
OAM4J
Stop watching too many Yoruba films. Yahoo boys do NOT get their money as a result of rituals. They get their money by duping people. Some of them might engage in the act of ritual killing, but they do it in vain.

People will always do foolish things because they believe it works. Many people still believe that if they rape virgins it will cure them of their HIV status, so many virgins are still raped in large numbers in South Africa for example. The fact that virgins are rapes because men with HIV believe it will cure them does not mean that it cures them in reality, so because some yahoo boys engage in ritual killing doesn't mean that it works. Most yahoo boys if you are to look at it critically do NOT do ritual killings. People generally believe that they do it. Others engage in it as a tradition thinking that is what will make them succeed in their enterprise. But in real.life what makes them succeed is their ability to convice who ever it is they want to dupe to see them as legitimate people and send them money. If they don't do that they won't succeed.

Ritual killings doesn't make any body rich, if it does Nigerians will be the richest people on earth. When it comes to money you MUST hustle for it either legitimately or illegitimately. There is no ritual killing that will ever give you money. You guys should stop watching youruba and Nollywood movies with their stupidity and absurdity.
Christianity EtcRe: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman:
awesomeJ:
WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD, IT'S YAHWEH, and not BRAHMAN, YOU FOLKS TRY TIRELESSLY TO CONVINCE FOLKS AGAINST. EVEN THOUGH NIGERIA CHRISTIAN POPULATION IS JUST ABOUT 50%, WHY ARE OVER 90% OF POSTS BY FOLKS LIKE YOU DIRECTED SOLELY AGAINST THE CHRISTIAN GOD AND CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLES?-YAHWEH, JESUS, PASTORS, CHRISTIANS, TITHES, etc.
That is because Christianity is the ONLY religion I was indoctrinated with and the only religion I know very well. I know little or nothing about Islam until I became an atheist. Even now I don't know much about the religion. I was raised a christian and over 95% of the atheist here were former christians so it is logical to attack only christianity which was our former religionand the religion we know very well.

IT'S BECAUSE CHRISTIANITY IS THE ONLY TRUE WAY, AND YIU FOLKS KNOW IT SO WELL, SO WHY MAKE EFFORTS AT CONVINCING PEOPLE AGAINST ANY OTHER WAY BUT THE RIGHT ONE?
There is NO truth to be found in Christianity talk more of it being the only true way. True way to what? To endless delusions abi? You don't have to lie to yourself. There are many famous ex muslims atheist on the internet that attack ONLY Islam.

The owner of the biggest atheist website on the internet (the atheist republic ) is an ex muslim. If you visit the site his post are directed ONLY on Islam and that's because as an ex muslim that is why the only religion he knows very well. There are atheist forums dedicates to criticizing ONLY Islam by ex muslim atheist. Do some readings and stop assuming things.
Christianity EtcRe: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman: 9:01pm On Feb 16, 2018
butterflyl1on:
Much as your ignorance pains me I would advice you go to google.com and search WMAP. It will take you to a diagram by NASA which talks about our universe in detail and it's origin.

Hold this diagram in front of you and click on the video I posted earlier talking about God proven in 5 minutes and follow the video while looking at the diagram.

The reason I offered you the video as a guide is because of your scientific ignorance so take that as a kindergarten visual aid assistance from me free of charge.
Ogbeni shut up and stop telling more lies for Jesus. You are to provide the scientific position on the origin of the big bang and what science says about the cause and nature of what caused the Big bang. Shebi you just LIED that what yoir religious scriptures says totally tallies with what science says caused the Big Bang?
All you are to do is provide the scientific position on the nature of what caused the Big bang so that we will see that it agrees with your religious scriptures. Where does the WMAP or the NASA image you alluded to talk about the nature of what caused the Big bang? Where?

What am I to do with the video that remains ONLY an opinion of a christian who happens to be a scientist? Where is his scientific peer reviewed paper on the origin of the universe? A youtube video stating an opinion is NOT a scientific position. The video remains his opinion and not a scientific position. Just show me the general scientific position stating the nature and description of what ever it is that caused the Big bang as you claimed. Do that or just accept that you lied. No time abeg.
Christianity EtcRe: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman: 8:46pm On Feb 16, 2018
sonofluc1fer:
grin grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

as in,, that one eneter well. See as the mumu come form born again, dey speak UN grammar on top NL thread. lmao.. these Christians are just disgusting vile hypocrites.
Instead of going to faithfooly eat human faeces as commanded by Yahweh, he is here speaking English and telling LIES all over nairaland.
Christianity EtcRe: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman: 8:40pm On Feb 16, 2018
butterflyl1on:
Please people who possess intelligence are having a dialogue. It's easy to pick out the unintelligent under such conditions because in the midst of serious talk they simply end up cavorting and acting like a court Jester in every corner.

We have seen your Court Jestering skills despite making no advert that we needed a Jester on this thread. I know your hustle is real but even hustlers do so in upgraded ways these days.

Go back and prepare your Court Jestering CV in an intelligent manner so that when you present it again, it would be with panache and with an umph alright?

Cheers!

Christianity EtcRe: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman: 8:37pm On Feb 16, 2018
butterflyl1on:
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Plus on the flip side, the creator of the universe as described from scripture is said to have no beginning and no end which totally tallies with what science says caused the Big Bang and subscribes to what I just typed above so science itself does not subscribe to infinite regress. That's one of your missiles shot down.
Why do you tell lies ALWAYS? What did science say caused the Big bang? Where does science ever address the cause of the big bang or address it's nature? Continue lying shamelessly for Jesus, he must be very proud.
Christianity EtcRe: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman: 6:41pm On Feb 16, 2018
sonofluc1fer:
Dont try to shame faithfools. They will eat shit to prove God exists.
Butterflyl1on the faithfool will now start outlining the nutritional value of human faeces when eaten grin
Christianity EtcRe: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman: 4:53pm On Feb 16, 2018
ZirdoRoray:
Are you sure? Don't forget God commands Ezekiel to eat human faeces. I'm sure anything can happen there since your God is extremely hot-tempered.

Ezekiel: 4. 12. And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight.
grin grin. Butterflyl1on come and see Yahweh ordering someone to eat human faeces.
Christianity EtcRe: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman:
butterflyl1on:
You dodged the entire purpose of the OP and jumped on something else entirely.

This is you trying to roll the old and New Testament and the believers acceptance of God into one very mashed up and messed up analogy. You no even try at all. Let me poke a little hole in your analogy of errors.

Even though you are saying here that Christianity and God is built on uncertainty and confusion (confusion being a major factor) so let us evaluate the ripple effect of mass errors alright?

Assuming your analogy was true and Christianity is error prone and as you claim, massively flawed and extremely chaotic, then here are my questions.
My problem is you is that you LOVE telling lies always and love presenting your own alternate reality always as if its true when everybody knows it's a lie except you. Let's examine all the lies you've spewed and see if they make any sense.

1. Can chaos bring togetherness?
Where is the togetherness in Christianity today? Are catholics for example united with the non catholics? Do they share the same beliefs and do things together? So far catholics openly condemn non catholics and vice versa. Do the Greek othrodox even agree with the pentacoastals? They have different bibles with different and additional books. Do they even marry each other? Will a Seven day adventist marry a Catholic? Go and read the seven day adventist publication and see how they castigate and berate the catholics daily. There is NO unity amongst christians thatbisbwhy why there are different sects each with their own different theology and doctrines everywhere. Pastors are always at each other's neck. The only thing they are united at is using the name of Jesus to expliot people. There is no unity in Christianity, if there is the madness and confusion we see today will not exist.

2. Can chaos bring positive growth?
Yes it can. Muslims since inception have been very brutal and violent against each other. They kill each other always (shites and Sunnis ) but the religion is projected and expected to out grow every other religious group in 60 years to become the biggest religious group on earth. It is currently the fastest growing religion on earth despite the inherent confusion and chaos that exist btw it's two major sects.

But then the reality is that within Christianity and Islam each sect is growing on its own. Catholics are growing, protestants are growing, Sunnis are growing as well as shites but because we all sum them up as muslims and christians we all at the end claim that the religion is growing.

3. Can chaos cause a sharing of unified ideas and unifies desires to assist humanity and spread love?
You are a shameless LIAR. Christianity did NOT begin because the authorities that be wanted to had a unified desire to assist human beings. Christianity spread because the Roman empire wanted to conquer the world and wanted everybody to also forcefullyconvert to their religion. The biggest religionthat was spread through conquest in the history of humanity remains christianity. Millions were killed in the name of Jesus because they had to be forcefully converted. We have the correspondence btw the conquistadors and how they brutally had to convert the Mayans and the Aztecs to Christianity by force for example. Even here in African it was convert or die in some places. Many of our ancestors that rejected were banished or killed.
Today the quest has changed from killing and converting people by force to exploitation. Convert and bring your money to enrich the pastors is what is going on now.

4 Can chaos cause an explosive growth of Christianity from just over 2000 years ago when the number was 120 people to the about 2.4 billion people today? grin
If you are the only super power of your time and you go about conquering and annexing territoriesand forcing the people to convert to your only state religion you will gain a lot of converts over time. That was exactly what the Romans did with christianity.

This is roughly 1.2million added followers every year or 3300 new followers a day. This kind of chaos that brought this kind of growth must be a good one wouldn't you say so? cheesy
There are followers belonging and converting to the various sects with different doctrines that all fall under the umbrella group known as christianity but when you look close they are very different groups each with their varied set of beliefs. There is no universally accepted christian doctrine any where.


Christians argue with each other not to hate each other, but rather to gain spiritual knowledge from each other but after the arguments we ALL without exception fall back ON CHRIST! grin
This remains a lie. Go to any thread where catholics and protestants are slugging it out and tell me if they don't hate each other. In fact Catholicsand protestants fought the wars of the reformation in Europe that lasted over 200 years and killed about 11 million people according to some estimates.

We don't even have to go far. Here on nairaland I can easily show you were people like KingEbukasBlog, Winner, Oladegbu, and others have stated that catholics are not christians but agents of Satan. I have once quoted KingEbukasBlog on that to show him his hypocrisy when he said catholics are agents of Satan.

You don't call people whom you seek spiritual knowledge from agents of Satan do you? Go to the tithe threads and see the way christians call each other names. Your man Felixmoron is a known culprit, he condemns and threatens his fellow christians with hell sef over disagreements. grin

So you see, we rock and your analogy just bounced back on you cheesy
You rock over what? Your endless schism and disagreements or what? Can you go and preach as a visiting preacher in a Catholic church? Will your church allow a Jehovah witness preacher to come and preach in your church? Will a Seven day adventist allow a white garment wearing christian to go and preach in their church? Will an Ethopinion or maronite christian allow you to stand on their pulpit and preach to them as a visiting preacher? So which rocking are you talking about Mr lie lie .
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Embassy Branch In United Kingdom Declared Bankrupt by dalaman: 12:18pm On Feb 16, 2018
Seems they don't need the UK church because the pastor just bought a private Jet recently. The church is rich they have enough money to bail out their UK branch but it seems they don't want or need the branch. But then what does that mean for their endless prosperity teaching since they are going bankrupt.
Christianity EtcRe: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman:
butterflyl1on:
On one side we have a group with evidence defined in faith. " FAITH IS THE SUBSTANCE OF THINGS HOPED FOR, THE EVIDENCE OF THINGS NOT SEEN"

faith to that side is tangible and evident and isn't based on jumping to conclusions. While on the other side is a group that believes that because they are unsure and cannot see what the first group sees then everyone else must be like them.

How i wish nairaland just happened and even as deliberately compartmentalised and intelligently programmed as it is, it just appeared and wasn't designed .....
You have allowed others to reason for you so much so that you can not live without their imaginary and mythical thoughts and ideas. You can not compare nairaland with the God idea. Everybody here including you KNOWS and acknowledges that nairaland belongs to Seun Osewa. His objective signature is on nairaland stating very clearly in bold that he owns nairaland. He has a UNIQUE moniker(No other moniker called Seun exist here on nairaland ) and uses his monikers to communicate wit people here. He uses the moniker to seek for employees (moderators), make special announcements, engage people directly in ways through which everybody including you knows that it is him.

What about God? We have so many of them. None of them has any of their names or signature in nature in an objective way stating that they own anything. All we have are diffrent believers telling us that it is thir own version of God that owns the universe. How did you get to know that the planet we live in was created hy Yahweh and not Brahma? Over a billion people in the world today claim that Brahma created the universe, do you have any evidence apart from empty words to show that It is your own God that created the universe and not Brahma. If you try to seriously claim that nairaland is owned by someone else and not Seun and insisit that Seun is an impostor you will be banned for life and any moniker that you open will also be banned for life.

God is a human idea that is why different humans have conceived of different God ideas throughout history. Your own is just one out of the many ideas that have been conceived. Even within your religion there are many different concepts and ideas of how God should be and behave. That is why we have very different sects with totally different beliefs about how your God should behave and act. Take the mordern day word of faith property gospel Christians and the traditional christians and see how different they feel God should act or behave. That alone is enough evidence to show you that bit is all a man made venture.

Seun exist and has a unique moniker here on nairaland that nobody else has. His signature and status as owner exist and nobody can claim that nairaland is owned by someone else . God on the other hand depends on whose story you are listening to. The muslims insist that the universe belong to their God, the Hindus claim the same, the Taoist make the same claim, christians also, etc. Every culture and every group keep insisting that it is their own version and idea of God that owns the universe, none of them has been able to provide any evidence to support their claims.

Seun uses his moniker to make direct comments here on nairaland. As for God it all depends on who you are listening to. Even believers can not tell you exactly the message their God is sending. Just take an example with the speaking in tongues thread here and see how sincere christians are all disagreeing with each other on what the bible really says about speaking in tongues. No agreement at all, only disagreement and even name calling among themselves while laying claim to this holy spirit of confusion. No such thing has ever happened to any of Seun's messages here on nairaland. Go to the thread and use the holy spirit to end the dispute and disagreement btw your fellow christians on the true biblical position on speaking in tongues. Shebi you always insist that you have the holy spirit, will you go there and demonstrate that this your holy spirit is real and not a figment of your deluded imaginations? Put your money where your mouth is and go there and settle the disagreement using the holy spirit let's see how far you'll go. Show some actions, we are tired of your empty claims.

I can insist that Allah is God and that the universe belongs to him and nothing will ever happen to me. I can insist that the uinverse has no owner and nothing will ever happen to me. Try and insisit that someone else owns nairaland or claim that Seun doesn't own nairaland with all seriousness and see what will happen to you.
Christianity EtcRe: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman: 8:08am On Feb 16, 2018
Tohzara:
Lol! Busted! grin

But isn't that what he's notorious for?

Butterflyliar.
Our resident plagiarist grin
Christianity EtcRe: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman:
tintingz:
Link to your claims please!

Approximately 20 psychological reasons for yawning have been proposed by scholars, but there is little agreement about its main functions.

One study states that yawning occurs when one's blood contains increased amounts of carbon dioxide and therefore becomes in need of the influx of oxygen (or expulsion of carbon dioxide) that a yawn can provide. Yawning may in fact reduce oxygen intake compared to normal respiration. However, neither providing more oxygen nor reducing carbon dioxide in air decreased yawning.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yawn
He can not provide any link to his claims. He plagiarized the material from some obscured personal blog and he is here trying to tell you that you don't know what you are saying. At least you can make your own point without stealing other people's words and posting them as yours. He is a yeye plagiarist. He has been caught many many times but it seems he can not live without it.Once a theif always a thief they say.
Christianity EtcRe: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman: 8:03am On Feb 16, 2018
butterflyl1on:
Boy I need to get my sleep. You are past your bedtime. This is a fact as of today and I even gave you an abridged version. It holds huge benefits to our brain.

yawning has 12 neurological benefits the sum of which increase our intellectual functioning as well as decreasing toxicity in our minds. It basically activates an area in the brain called the precuneus, which is involved in consciousness, self-reflection and memory.

Yawning also helps regulate the temperature and metabolism of your brain. yawning actually has a type of reboot function, which helps to increase our alertness making us more cognitively aware. It sort of wipes out the tiredness and refocuses us and it is.

Yawning, as I am sure you are aware, is neurologically contagious: when you see someone yawn, you yawn too thereby passing on the same neurological benefits to that person.

Guy for the last time I need to sleep. Go and put on your pyjamas you are past your bedtime.
Mr yeye plagiarist . When next you lift people's materials word for word do well to put the link. Thank me later.

https://drleaf.com/blog/single-entry/print/yawning-one-of-the-best-kept-secrets-in-neuroscience/

You claim to read wide but all we see you do here is plagairize wider. You can't live without plagiarism abi?
Christianity EtcRe: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman: 1:36pm On Feb 15, 2018
[quote author=butterflyl1on post=65087322][/quote]Do you have any other lie to tell on behalf of the holy spirit?
Christianity EtcRe: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman:
Ronpet777:
Very good then. U don't knw, u don't care to, fine. I hv provided myself with conclusions enough to come up with an answer to my curiosity and hv calved out a way to find purpose for my existence. My friend u hv not, rather u WISH and CRAVE and CRY and WAIL and GROAN, just to antagonize mine.
So who is delusional? My friend, seek for truth, seek for ur essence bf u question someone else's.
Try to find out d difference btw u and a common maggot and d need for ur brain and intelligence quotient if u r no better than a common garden lily that fades away at d close of day.
The maggot in your garden has its purpose here on earth. In its quest for survival it satisfies it's purpose. Your claim that life only has meaning when we die is empty and remains a lie. You only believe in ancient mythology and fiction and that is it. It does not give you any insight or and any knowledge to your life. You can not use your so called belief to demonstrate anything to me at all. You can only use it do delude yourself. I was debating a muslim ot long ago and he was saying almost the same thing you are saying now.l Your belief does NOT make you special, and it doesn't grant you anything special that you can demonstrate here. You have and know no truth, you only have and know the mythologies and fictional narratives you've been indoctrinated with, if you do you would have demonstrated it in an objective way. But because you don't all you can do is to cry and keep telling me not to poke holes at your mythical and fictional beliefs.
Christianity EtcRe: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman:
butterflyl1on:
God has already designed a method of communicating with him and it's called THE HOLY SPIRIT which is not a human invention. So you fail AGAIN!
The holy spirit remains a lie and a man made invention. You can NOT USE the Holy Spirit to do anything. You can NOT even use it to convince your fellow christian on any issue that you disagree on. You are a literal creationist based on your post. A christian like KingEbukasBlog is NOT a literal creationist. He is a theistic evolutionist, many christians here are also theistic evolutionist that do NOT believe in your creationism. They also believe in your holy spirit but till do not share the same belief as you do. Can you use the holy spirt and communicate with them? What about the thithers and anti tithers? They both use the bible and the Holy Spirit to justify their positions while using the same holyspirit to castigate those that oppose them.

The prosperity word of faith preachers that believe christians are NOT suppose to suffer or go through any kind of hardship because they are worshipping a God that owns everything. They use the same bible and lay claim to the same holy spirit when making their case. They also use the same holyspirit to berate and castigate those christians that go against them.

Catholics, protestants, orthodox etc all use the holy spirit but they do not agree on anything. The holy spirit is yet to tell christians if Jesus is God himself or a distinct personality that is different from God. Some christians believe in the trinity while others do not. The holy spirit is yet to settle that issue. How salvation can be attained is still an issue that is not clear among christians. The holyspirit is yet to settle that issue and explain to believers that hold different opinions what the true position is.

The Holy Spirit is a man made invention that is even confusing and unclear that is why every body is just using it to support his own opinion and personal interpretation. The holy spirit is not objective, clear and can not be used to demonstrate anything to believers themselves. There is nothing that supports and promotes confusion and madness like the holy spirit. When in Nigeria I was watching a TV program titled let the bible speak in Benue state where one guy was saying that the holy spirit told him that those that speak gibberish when speaking in tongues do not know what they are doing. He said your speaking in tongues is valid only if someone can interprete what you are saying and he used biblical verses. Bring those that engage themselves in the gibberish and they will also lay claim to the holy spirit. There is no enabler of this delusion that christians display daily more than this imaginary holy spirit.
Christianity EtcRe: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman: 12:39pm On Feb 15, 2018
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Ronpet777:
And after ur glorified existence Wot follows?
I don't know and so do you. The difference btw me and you is that while I am happy to state the reality which is that no one knows you pretend to know what you don't know at all by clinging unto the mythologies and fictional narratives of ancient men that don't even know what the stars are or what the are made up of. Men who hold superstitious beliefs about the universe and life in general.
Christianity EtcRe: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman: 11:30am On Feb 15, 2018
Ronpet777:
So tell me dear atheist, Wot's ur motivation for existence ?
So many things motivate me in life, survival alone is enough motivation for me. I don't need empty mythologies and fictional narratives.
Christianity EtcRe: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman: 11:09am On Feb 15, 2018
Ronpet777:
Dalaman dalaman dalaman! U really always hv something to come up with. U knw my beliefs now, and u call it delusional, fine. Can u kindly stop having nightmares abt itand stop hving high blood pressure marveling about it. Y do u always bother to question pple with their beliefs when u r no better than them, and even worse, by being insignificantly ignorant of d purpose of existence and lacking any sense of relevance on earth?
I know how it hurts to have your pet beliefs questioned and ridiculed. Some even kill others for doing that. You've told me not to do it, you've even tried to insulted me and use some silly guilt trips all to make me stop but I won't. Your pet superstitious beliefs must be questioned and mocked. So far as we are in a public forum where I am allowed to post anything I want to. What relevance do you have here on earth? Does subscribing to ancient mythology and fiction make your life more relevant than mine? The reality is it doesn't, no matter how you delude yourself.
Christianity EtcRe: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman: 9:28am On Feb 15, 2018
Ronpet777:
Beautiful! I really like u dalaman because u can be very honest. But how come a person who doesn't hv a slight idea about anything pertaining his existence hv d effrontery to question one with one? Ur position is very clear now. U know nothing. Just as brainempty as a three months old baby. For someone like u, u shld sit and learn. When u hv learnt enough to knw ur purpose in d face of d earth, let me knw.
I need people who can dare to believe and run after it with all inquisitiveness till d day a solution is found. We believe in God and we hv gone all out to seek him. We r making progress, u r not. U stand nowhere, as confused as a nincompoop.
dalaman, go and find an answer to ur meaningless existence.
You have and know NOTHING about existence. You only believe in what others have stated based purely on their own mythical and fictional ideas. You do not know the purpose of life in reality, you only believe what others have stated hat they feel the purpose of life is. Does a muslim with his huge belief and hope truly know what te purpose of life is when he tells you that it is to serve Allah as a loyal and faithful slave? What about a buddisht that claims the purpose of life is to achieve nirvana? Does a hindu and his claims about the purpose and meaning of life truly know? Do you think they know?


If they don't then who lied to you that you do(you are NOT different from them in a way)? Because you were indoctrinated with ancient mythology and fiction doesn't mean you know anything about life and existence better than I do. My existence is not meaningless. The mythical and fictional stories you believe in is not the only thing thata person cam find meaning and purpose in. Many others do not subscribe to your own religion, they subscribe to other religions and still find meaning and purpose in it. Many others don't subscribe to any religion and still also fund meaning and purpose in their lives. Stop your delusions already. Repeating it many times will never make it true. Your empty belief does not give you any special knowledge about life or anything better than me. There is NOTHING you can demonstrate with your beliefs that gives you and edge over me ever. You can only keep wallowing in your delusions.
Christianity EtcRe: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman:
Ronpet777:
Good morning Mr dalaman, How was ur sleep? I really don't knw where u reside but I assume I told u it was bedtime here at least and expected u to hold ur comment till ur conversationist is ready to reply.
Its evening here. 6:39PM to be precise.

That said, I noticed dt in trying to give credence to ur belief, I mean, unbelief and ur own idea of d world, u ended up mentioning 'my' belief. Do u find it difficult to comprehend English? Am I permitted to use Spanish? U used tautology generously by mentioning d words mythological and fictional a million times.Is that ur belief?u said it's mine, fine. But I asked for ur belief not mine.
I don't have a belief when it comes to the issue of creation of the universe. I also do not have a belief when it comes to what comes after people die. I do NOT need a belief. I need reality and the reality is neither you nor me knows how the universe came about, while I am confident to day that I do not know, you are happy to cling unto ancient mythology and fiction because you were indoctrinated with it since childhood. It is not al about God or scientificexplanations. I don'tknow is a position and it is the most honest position. I don't have a belief because I do not know. But what I know for sure is that your belief is nothing but ancient mythology and fiction created by men of old. And that is what I am pointingout to you.



To be crystal clear, tell us now for d last time abt d story of creation that we shld bliv henceforth.
Mr dalaman, tell us about d BIG BANG that caused d world to appear from nowhere. Tell us how cells begin to create themselves and how ur forefathers evolved from lizards, monkeys, gorillas, and apes. (Hahahahahahahaha) Oh, forgive me for that. As I was saying, narrate and explain elaborately how everything started and how we all got here and d difference btw humans from a living rat.
God bless u as u go on with this. ¤Grabs a popcorn, and crosses leg¤
If there is any creation story then nobody needs to believe in it. We will just know it and it will remain factual to us all. Nobody believe in the existence of the sun because it doesn't require any belief. It is self evident and factual to us all. If there is any creation story that is true nobody will need belief. We believe in all these things b cause they are NOT true, so we have to make some mental adjustments to accommodate them because we know them inside that they can be false and we just accept them based on faith or religious grounds.

I have not told you that I believe in the big bang or evolution so I wonder why you are lying to yourself.

I don't need to tell lies to myself or accept the obvious lies and mythological folklore of some ancient people because I want an explanation for things I don't know, things I also know that they themselves do not also know. It's not God or nothing. You don't know how we got here yourself and if I start asking questions you will NOT be able to answer any of it. So I don't know what exactly you are on about. Because you accept ancient mythology and fiction doesn't make you any special or give you any special knowledge. There is nothing that you know about creation that you can demonstrate to be true at all even with your God belief. There is nothing about creation you can explain to me objectively. The only thing you can do is to keep parroting ancient mythology and fiction. You can not use your God beliefs to explain anything to me clearly and objectively at all. So who are you deceiving?
Christianity EtcRe: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman: 6:32am On Feb 15, 2018
OkCornel:
I get where you are coming from...and you're making a lot of sense.

However, I am appealing to you not to categorize all of them as delusional. For example, amongst the theists, there are fanatical ones who are ready to kill anyone or anything that moves for their beliefs...there are also those who practice a blind faith i.e. belief with little or no insight as to why they are doing what they are doing...

Then there are those that can still provide evidence for their beliefs e.g. Scientists who through science believes in the existence of a Creator...

Likewise, you cannot rule out the fact that there are atheists who are also delusional. There are medical cases of such...

In addition, if no one knows in exact details how the Universe and life came to be...then where is the wisdom in concluding that there is no Creator? (I'm not directing this question to you, but to all atheists)
If you notice my post I am always specific about the types of God I talk about. I always specifically say that Yahweh does not exist in reality. I always also maintain that Yahweh did not create the universe. Same goes for Allah, Brahma etc. These Gods are all man made creations and do not exist in reality. They only exist in the minds of their believers. It's plausible that the universe has a creator or many creators, we just don't know and have no evidence to show for that. I am very satisfied with I don't know. Accepting obvious mythology and fiction because I don't know is just a no no for me.
Christianity EtcRe: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman:
OkCornel:
I greet you in peace bro... I am not here to fight with you nor insult you.

Atheists keep mentioning theists are delusion because of their belief in a Creator called "God" or whichever name religion wants to tag along with...

But I have this to say...as long as certain things are unknown...then the God factor cannot be completely ruled out unless you have answers to the following questions;

1) In exact and accurate details, please tell us how the Universe came to be. If you say it is the big bang...was it programmed or it happened by accident?

2) In exact and accurate details, please tell us how complex life forms such as man and animals to be...did they at first evolve as an aggregation of simple life forms before environmental factors and variations became responsible for the different species we see today?


If no one has exact answers to these questions ( and I don't mean guess work or plausible theories), then no one has the right to call another delusional for believing in the existence of a Creator.

Please I await your intelligent response to the questions I asked...

Cheers...
No one knows how the universe or life came about. All we have are just different hypothesis with different levels of plausibility.

The theist here both christians and Muslims are deluded. They are deluded because the actually think that their beliefs in ancient mythology and fiction is the only legitimate beliefs to hold on to. They feel it is the only thing that gives people meaning and purpose. They call those of us that discard such mythologies "dead people" and other deameaning names.
I might not know what 1383743526222*625228465493737 is but all I know is that it can never be 500 and anybody that tells me it is 500 despite my lack of knowledge of the true answer will be ridiculed. You don't need to just believe in anything. Believe in things that you can demonstrate to be true with evidence before you come out in public declaring it. If you have no demonstrable evidence then no need coming out publicly with your beliefs and declaring it as the only truth, which is what this guys do, that is b why I call them deluded which is the fact.

Stop saying that religious people shouldn't be called deluded because they believe in a creator. That is not the only thing they believe in. Beliving in a creator is just one aspect, the hold onto to other beliefs that are nonsensical and need to be called out.
Christianity EtcRe: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman:
Ronpet777:
To prove how spineless and unreasonable they r, now that it's late and everyone is abt to go to bed, they will come and drop comments to act like Jackie Chan. Y didn't u face me and talk well? Dare to challenge me tomorrow and I will show to u that ur only hope is to question other pple's belief without even having an iota of existential significance. U r all as good as dead. No purpose, just a mistake by evolution.So Wot can a useless living creature preach? I will be a fool to ever argue with a direction less individual who is accusing a person of going d wrong way.Has he found a way for himself yet? When u find a pathway to follow, do contact me. I will be ur guest on d journey. Kids!!! Till 2moro by God's grace cool
Nobody is spineless and unreasonable, the only person that is spineless and unreasonable here is you because you feel the childhood indoctrination you still hold onto in ancient mythology and fiction make you any better than the person that has discarded it. There is something called different time zones. It is not everyone here that lives in Nigeria, some of us are in other continents with different time zones.

Again refusing to accept your own version of ancient mythology and fiction doesn't mean that a person's life is meaningless. The ancient mythology and fiction you were indoctrinated with is NOT the only thing that gives people meaning and purpose in life. Those that accept other ancient mythologies and fictions that are different from yours also find meaning and purpose in their lives from their own mythologies and fictional beliefs. Those that discard it all together also have meaning and purpose in their lives, so you better discard that stupid and delusional belief of yours that makes you assume that only people that subscribe to your delusions have meaning and purose in their lives.

Because you believe in some ancient mythology doesn't make your life better than mine in anyway. There is NOTHING that your belief gives you as an advantage. Your belief can not make you do any thing extra ordinary or give you any added advantage. You can only make empty and fictitious claims but in reality we are all the same. You have belief in ancient mythology and fiction while I don't and that is the only difference. Your empty beliefs doesn't make you any special at all. It doesn't give you any direction, it only make you deluded and that is the reality .
Christianity EtcRe: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman: 5:31am On Feb 15, 2018
Ronpet777:
So can u then shut up for life since u offer nothing better. Since my belief doesn't hurt anyone u can simply move along and never antagonize again as u r foolish enough to believe in nothing. It's my bliv not urs, if I like I bliv in soap, do not question me.

U will do well to just continue ur meaningless existence without bothering anyone. Peace!!!
I will not shut up. Your belief hurts alot of people. I do not believe in nothing, I believe in a lot if things. I just do not believe in ancient mythology and fiction which is what your beliefs are. My existence is not meaningless no matter how much you say it is. Just because you believe and accept ancient mythology and fiction of some unknown people doesn't make your life any more meaningful than mine in reality. Your life isn't even more meaningful than that of a radical Islamic terrorist because you guys all believe in the same nonsense in the final scheme of things.

Keep wallowing in your stupid delusions. I will continue to question, it ridicule it and challenge it. It's obvious you don't like what am doing, just go and report me to your God and tell him to shut me up since you can't shut me up.
Christianity EtcRe: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman: 11:28pm On Feb 14, 2018
Ronpet777:
I hv studied these guys. All they do is put u in a position where u hv to defend. Dont let them. They always want to question while offering nothing to substitute belief. They r all weaklings hiding under the cloak of logic. Tell them to offer something and they tremble all over. They r simply bunch of losers who wish to distract pple by diverting ur attention away from their crumbling existence.
When a lie is put forward I don't need to counter ot with another lie. All I need to show is that you have put forth a lie and move ahead. I knowhow painful it is when people show you that your beliefs are nothing but mythical and fictional beliefs. Long ago the hurch used to kill people for pointing that out until when they lost all their powers. Now muslims are also doing it. But the reality that you only believe ancient mythology and fiction must be pointed out and I don't need to replace it with my own fictional narrative.
Christianity EtcRe: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman: 11:20pm On Feb 14, 2018
Ronpet777:
Hahahhahahahahaha! And u Mr dalaman, we r offering u a huge platform to sell ur product. Wot exactly r u bringing to d tablehuh? Wot exactly r u offering? At least we hv hope that there is an afterlife and better life after this for God's followers. Pls, wot does ur atheism offer mankind? Apart from making us believe that we r no better than a bed bug that lives today and die off tomorrow with no purpose or like a garden lily that grows in d morning and fade off at night. Or that we must all knw that NOTHING created SOMETHING.
Pls Wot more do u offer? The only hope an atheist hold on to is the fact that he/she can antagonize normal humans here and die off like garden weed. Wot a pity.
Shame on u. Tell us now Wot we stand to gain From ur UNBELIEF!!!
Pls kindly do. We r all waiting.
I am not here to sell atheism to you. Am here to just point the reality of the matter to you. Having hope in am afterlife means NOTHING in reality. The Islamic terrorist that kills others in the name of Allah has MORE hope than you in the afterlife and acts in such a way that will hasten his transition to the afterlife where he hopes to go and enjoy many heavenly virgins, live in a paradise with rivers of wine, golden streets and all. Your belief is NOT better than that of a common muslim and neither is your hope greater than his. You just subscribe to a different fictional and mythological belief that is just different from his and that's all.

The ancient Egyptians built the pyramids and valley of the kings, thousands of years ago because of their beliefs and hopes in the afterlife. But you look at them today and laugh at their beliefs and hopes in the afterlife just as you do that of Islamic fundamentalist that kills himself and others in the hope of an afterlife.

Life has ONLY one purpose that we know of and that is survival, any purpose or meaning is what you make of it. To the muslims the purpose of life is to be a loyal slave of Allah, to the Buddhist it is to achieve nirvana, t the Hindus is to live loyal to the cast you are born in so that you can reincarnate as a better caste in the next life. Again the purpose and meaning of life is what ever you make of it and it has nothing to do with the reality of life. We must all live and die that is the fact. Believing in ancient mythology and fiction as you do those NOT make your life better than mine in anyway in reality.

You believe in mythology and fiction of ancient people and that remains the fact. Regardless of how it makes you feel, it has nothing to do with anything in reality.

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