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@ kay17 it was a simple english i wrote there. its a choice for us to follow his will albeit its truthful thing to follow is will but because we have freedom we might choose not to do that can you now understand?

The problem about human race is that because God (Jesus)  is not a dictator he is a God of love and he gave us the freedom to choose good and evil and to choose the way we live freely without hinderances.  Because we fee too important of ourselves we feel we really amount to something before God. Its like a Apple device  saying to steve jobs that hey look man! You made me but i became more important than you in life everyone wants to associate with me, they go to the market and buy me hence I am not gona be responding to you instructions anymore.

Jobs being human would  simply say in response to the device I will make me another device that would obey and do my will and it would only take me few days to do that. How much more can God change us in few seconds if he cared ?

We are nothing before God, the only thing we enjoy is the freedom which is given to us through is love for us. and if we abuse the freedom and refuse to love Him back and accept Him as the first in everything we do the consequence is hell.

Ofcourse we have the right to disagree even about hell it doesnt change anything with the creator

It would only seems reasonable to me to talk with christians as I am not a fanatic and I would never be subjected religious arguement. what purpose does it serve arguing about Jesus christ, he doesnt want any christian to argue for him rather tell his words. you are allowed to believe in whatever but  it would be clear to you oneday i know it seems there wouldnt be that day but I know a day comes you shall all wish you had accepted jesus christ.

@ Jenwitemi because you asked for some proof i am writing this and i will not be dragged into arguements whatever your view of it.  

Christian religion is better than other religions because that which leads to God is better than that which leads away from God. We have sinfully wandered away from God ( Isaiah 53:6)  and we need a Guide to lead us back. Jesus is that Way ( John 14:6)

the One to seek the lost (Luke 19:10). Jesus claims not to be one of many ways, but the one-and-only Way to God. He is, in fact, God Himself in human flesh (John 20:28), so to find Jesus is to find God.

Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father,” He said (John 14:9). The Christian religion is unique in that it offers a close, intimate relationship with the personal God of the universe.

@ jenwitemi, maybe you would make more sense as to why is hogwash and bigoted. you havent said anything to disprove it yet its hogwash. you do not have to be rude to peoples comment it doesnt make you any smarter it would only make a more smater person look at you asif you were lacking in knowledge

I have spoken with many believers and some even some pastors cannot give a definate answer albeit am sure Jesus the man that walked the earth over two thousand years ago is God who created all of us, but am still staggered at the number of christians that still say jesus is simply the son of God and that he is not equal to God himself.

whats your understanding of the Trinity everyone?

From my understanding of the scripture, I would say God is interested in religion and the only religion He is interested in is the Gospel which he brought to us through His Son jesus christ. Everyother religion we see this days are myth to create confussion and to reduce the numbers of God lovers, the devil is actively working to win as many people with himself to hell, he knows he is destined to be in hell he doesnt want to go there alone he wants as much as many as he could deceive to believe in religions that are not recognised by Elohim, God is not a God of confussion he wouldnt approve of different religions and to confuse His children as to not knowing which to choose. He says no one comes to the father except through me (Jesus) and jesus didnt tell us of any other religion that he brought to us other than the Gospel

murder-x not gona stop laughing

Its not a rumour actually, adebayo ogunlesi  is his name it was published last year august on the redeemed magazine in London. but something needs to be done to break the monopoly of these westerners they see us as total fools

For goodness sake why cant we have a national flyer God!!, yes arik would be treated by the UK government with less importance while they would be cautious at dealing with a national airline owned and run by the Nigerian government. Arik in its entirety is privately owned the FG would not be interested in causing a political row with the UK as it stands. Nigerian is run by a whole bunch of jackass. The National obligtion to protect the interest of the general public of Nigeria has never been in the governing handbooks if they ever had one.

If  Nigerians could stage a massive disobedience in droves and send all these nonentities away from office aside that we would only nag and thats it,  nothing would change i detest the leaders of this so call Nigeria they lack common sense to understand basic national dignity which comes before personal priorities

@ Henry1010, you are welcome bro, The Lord is your light and he would guide you all through we are only opinionating. Please be well prepared in prayers every experienced person would know he wont be easy at the start but i tell the struggle times shall pass away only if you are stedfast and not shy away from tough times. I know it wont be straight forward but please hang in and I pray the Lord would not tarry before he brings solutions for you in Isreal. Peace

@ Olodostein, you are absolutely on point, they do not need that kind of explanation I would only assume its directed to the op hence no point. these lots are talking asif they were born with a silver spoon, this man lost a job i already felt bad enough for him reading his post, you lots talk asif you dont know poverty thus you haired opinions absolutely garbage and unwarranted.

Yes you are welcome [b]justwise [/b]you havent done much to counter my last post  other than laugh to delude your incompetence

you lots need to get grip. and justwise answer the questions put to you not answering for someone else. leave sabath whater to answer. and for you , common sense hasnt prevailed yet. the op should go to Isreal with his visitors visa, when he gets there he should submit resume to firms. from study Isreal employer like a face to face talk when a prospective employee wants to work with them because they could offer them a job and they might not show up. then if he secured a job he could apply for a work permit he could be an in country application or he has to leave the country but atleast he found a job and he could salvage his life from poverty.

you guyz seems to be half brained damn!! I hate talking to people like this. Visionless unispiring always going for ready made things, they dont challege sickos!!

@ sabbath7th
I understand the desperation of the original poster, but what he is about to do is what makes other legitimate travelers find hard to get a visa. I have seen many people here complain about western embassys not granting visas to Nigerians and taking their money, but they fail to realise that people like the OP have build a bad reputation for Nigerians.
I am also concerned about the advice the Pastor gave you, he cannot be a Man of God if he is going to advice you to cheat and tell a lie.

Come on dont weasel if we were to go by your recent comment how was this previous comment meant to answer the OP on how to convert a visit Visa to a work did you answer hypocrite? if you have no point to share dont disgrace yourself and post something meaningful

Not again justwise, everybody knows the kind of Visa the op has obtained, we are encouraging the op to go and seek employment in Isreal he is an expat for goodness sake, he shouldnt back out from his plan and go and apply for some european countries Student visa thats not guaranteed. and what the probability of getting a job this days in europe with all these finacial turmoil.

Thats what am about and thats what I would keep saying on this thread. any comment thats not deemed appropriate shall be confronted if the poster is sure about the content they should defend it

Oh come on Justwise I know you hate being  such a weasel but no one has promised the OP he would be able to work with a visit in Isreal.  how many times do we have to say this before you finally get the message? I would take the pain to explain to you if you would tell me how many times you need be told damn!

I would stick for this guy and am willing to embarass anyone with haired opinions without a logical ends. the OP needs candid opinion and not discouraging comments.  Again read very well JUSTWISE no one has promised he would be able to work with VISITORS VISA, and where ever you find comment kindly make refrence and let get this particular point over with

@ Olodostein. Now you get it, thats what am talking about,  maybe some people would bring down their pride no one or cannot live or hasnt lived in Europe for Goodness sake I wasnt gona make any comments to thread if everything was going in order but i just cant fathom it that comment dont dissapoint thats really absurd and someone talking about pastor pfffff I would  stick out for the OP even as i  dont know him.

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@ op study these links

http://jobmob.co.il/blog/israel-job-search-from-abroad/

http://www.ehow.com/how_5670420_obtain-work-visa-israel.html

http://www.mfa.gov.il/

Yea thats what I would call a comment, not the previous useless and abstract comments u have been making. to other forumers on this thread its possible to extend a visitors from inside Isreal so far thats what have been able to gather I want the know how about it I would post links later on

dont be such a waste of space  , the only thing you know you are best at is to post abusive comments and i am all your for that, maybe you should do what you are asking me to do aswell that make you a hero and useful atleast. remember you were against me saying how long it took to get citizenship in denamrk and i proved you wrong was surprised how your fingers were completly shut. you people lack vision . am getting some information for the op which i would post later. if you are not smart enough to post contributory comments shut up and dont post. you really arent one of the smartest out there you have vague knowledge on immigration matters then shut up and look on .

Nobody here is an immigration expert, nobody is a fortune reader nobody here is an immigration solicitor, a bit of common sense and humility would go a long way. op could as well go and job hunt who knows he could find a job in Isreal whereby the employer would be willing to file for his work permit visa, he could be an incountry application or he has to come back to nigeria but then atleast he has secured a job and he could come and apply for his owrk permit. not you lots deterring him from making the move and ushering complete daunting and hopeless advise. I would keep coming back as long as i see any traces of arrogance and pride in any comment on this thread.

This man lost a job and he is finding rough at this time all what you can do is to come and chat total nonsense.

If you wish to work in Israel you must first find secure employment in Israel and ask your prospective employer to apply for a work visa for you there.

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@ JUSTWISE dont be such a wally not to understand what the topic is about,  please feel free to pm me if you wana know in detail what i was ranting about, where in my post says he should go and take up works in Isreal with a visitor's Visa are you sure you can read and understand?  and you lots saying he should go to europe on a student visa are you gona give him bit of cash to pay for tuition and accomondation as well as other bills? he has an Isreali visa he is seeking opinions on his journey you lots came here chatting utter nonsense about student visa that is not even guaranteed he is gona get. what are you people?

Am completely sure without doubt in my mind you know little about this topic, why would you want him to waste the visa he  already had  let him go there and see for himself not you been completely negative, I have seen people travel abroad with visitors and still met their fortune, if they have met people to tell them off they would be far off from standard they are.

You failed to understand my post because you were too eager to blag unfortunately you dont have the balls yet to blag me . what about people giving comments showing pride and complete arrogance can you  not now understand arrogancy and pride  when you read peoples post, thats all what am on about and that what am nailing out and I would not pressume not to pass comment if i see any traces of such on this thread.

Can you also advise the dude then how to apply for Student visa or work permit  and how to fund ?

@ Justwise, what are you on about suicide journey? is it everyone that travels on a visitors visa that is going on suicide journey, you know absolute nothing about what you are talking about and i bet you u dont, I have said he shouldnt become an illegal immigrant you literally dont read proper and just come to conclusion having said that, what do you mean the poster was being told the outcome of his proposed  journey ? Do you know what would happen to you tomorrrow? if u can honestly answer that maybe I would start believing in you lots, As far back as 18 years i have taken serious risk in my life when short sighted people were telling me not to make move I did and Glory be to God I am where I am making success, I jsut realise for me i have spent much time europe and i dont believe in living in western world for long.

I repeat OP make your move be smart enough to know when things wont work out for you when you get to Isreal not concluding the journey from Africa. damn!

@ Juzme same goes to you, that dude is not silly and i believe he is smart enough, how could someone be saying dont dissapoint them, hu are they that he cant dissapoint them, that is not an advise that is pride , and some people to quickly take to write about pastors pfffff come on you lots you are not all better than anyone. and justiwise  saying they were giving advise says a lot, he is not different from them all, those comments are simply rude and have element of pride and the OP is quite a tender person hence he doesnt view them as such.

  Its easy for me to go to the Isreali Immigration website and study it and come out here chat nonsense. we could  all give advise without having to be rude or show off end of!!

@ olodostein, thats what i would call a comment, I wonder why some 9ja dude just deemed it right to show off over the internet without valid proof and chat absolute nonsense and somee just decided to be a troll without gains. if anyone doesnt have serious knowledge about topics they really do not have to post, like this one here femmy2010 saying my question is pfffff, hu asked you question? your opinion was sought by the OP if you knew nothing then dont post and if you had no advise to dish out then dont post aswel look on and move to another thread. damn !!

@ OP, dont let anyone flaunt to be an Immigration guru to you on this thread, after all Life is all about risk come on take the risk, if it doesnt work out for you then atleast you have tried, there is absolutely no fault in trying. I would not advise you to become and illegal immigrant that could juts turn out to be an utter disaster. Man follow your instinct. you are an adult and no one is responsible for your actions other than you as its always been said we are where we are today because of the decisions we made yesterday. Be prayerful but i tell you to chance it .

you sure dont know what awaits you in Isreal. how could people just conclude your future based on experiences they have had or heard or seen. you are  different from any other human being on this planet you are simply yourself. Most Nigerians and i say this, the  majority of all Nigerians in the western countries that have acquired dual nationality has not done this because they had student/work permit visa before they embarked on the journey but the wise ones and fortunate ones have made good of the risk they took back then. The fear of the unknown is what is affecting most people, we are not God so we cant see beyond just now. 

This just strike even more what happens to taking risks? after all its not such a silly risk you are about taking. I know this 1st hand people can chat poo a lot to make themselves feel good. these appaling contributions arent what you need at this time and am sure this isnt what you have hoped to get before posting your message.
  I dont see any significance as at yet to help you coming to a decision on your post by these comments I would advise you to just stay off from this thread.

  as I have noticed I have always failed when i listen to peoples advise it has never ever do me any good till yet.  and yet i have taken risk thats paying off even now as i write to you.  Just be prayerful and let the Lord lead you on.

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Yes ericko i completely agree with your comment about the cv thing and most companys based in Manchester to have offices in London is correct. she is a British and she has had experience in this role in the past atleast morethan 2 years. from your comments i can tell the kind of person ur like, ur the outgoing type, well in opposite i love a very calmed life seriously, living in remote area completely chilled out from the stress of 8million people in a little city. living large with token and with the idea that my children wont eva have to speak init init in their life time is simply great.

@Dloy, i think your still equivocal about this dubious FAI, brother dont get involve with this people, I wish i could see this people i swear i would pay a huge amount of money to some thugs to destroy their establishment for me, how could this pple behind their doors come up with this stupid act to swindle Nigerians of their hard earned money. I am utterly utterly mad at this people