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Even Tinubu knows he aint winning that election.

Na him goons dey give themselves fake hopes just like the fake renewed hope wey he sell give them..

Why should he give you solutions when you hate him. Is he your friend?

When Lai Mohammed said that it is not APC's job to give GEJ good advice whether it will better the people's fortune or not, you people jumped up and hailed him..

When Wike said that it is not his job to help PDP become a better party, you celebrated him.

Why do you expect PO to help Tinubu and APC, his opponents, do well by giving them good advice?

Our enemies must be allowed to progress in error, it is to my benefit when they fail. Shikena. Go and read the Art of war..

Since when did you people in Kwara start loving democracy?

You prefer Feudal-fascism a.k.a Baba sope

Umahi the short clown..

A bloody tyrant who has looted to stupor and afraid of going to jail in the coming post-Tinubu era..

AceNY:
Wrong facts!
Prof Obafunwa
Prof Okesina
Prof Abel Onunu
Prof Dimie Ogoina
Prof Innocent Ujah
All are Nigerian Medical Doctor Vice Chancellors without PhD. Google it.

Hundreds of Nigerian Medical Fellowship holders are Professors in many Nigerian and African Universities today without PhD and many are still coming on.

Stop misrepresenting the NUC and stick to your Open University engagements. Everything you do in a PhD program and more are captured in the Medical Fellowship Training. Deal with it Brother. That's why Medical Fellowship holders enter Nigerian Universities as Lecturer 1 while your PhD earns lower Lecturer 2 entry point.

And by the way, many Medical Fellowship holders have now easily acquired your PhD as a (needless) add-on to show haters that their all-round competence is never in doubt. Many of them are currently doing the PhD just to help haters feel better and to show that they have nothing to fear in a PhD programme.

Once again, approach TETFUND - Nigeria's largest Research funder and see the number of Medical Fellowship holders (without your PhD) who are recurrent grant winners 🏆

Face the issue....the Medical Fellowship is a prestigious Academic and Professional qualification all over the world. That's why the Allied professionals (AHPs) of Nursing, MLs and Pharmacy imitated Doctors (as usual) by setting
up their colleges to award Fellowships (after weekend trainings in Hotel halls.)

*If it is a mere vocational certificate why did you AHPs rush to set up your own?*

I Pray for you as a friend that you never need the services of Consultant Doctors carrying these "Vocational certificates". Then you will know the Fellowship is more than a vocational certificate.

And by the way, ALL the AHP fields sprang out of Medicine. Read your history well. That is why there is a dominant Medical specialty coordinating every AHP field.

Medicine is not allied to any profession..... Medicine is the source and root of all your Allied Health Professions.

I will not join issues with you again after this. Have a blessed day my Friend.

Like I opined earlier, you have the right to glorify whatever vocational fellowship certificate you have, regardless of the donkey years spent doing the part-time paid 'study'. However, equating it to a PhD is comical..

I am a pragmatic person and I have told you to send your fellowship certificate to World Education Service (WES) for evaluation at with par with a Master's or PhD. We both know it would find its way into the thrash bin..Why?

Because, it is not regarded as a truly academic certification, but a vocational training specific to your field of endeavour.

The people you mentioned who became Vice chancellors without PhDs in Nigeria, got there simply because in Nigeria the political will is always expended on looking for ways and loopholes to violate simple laws, regulations and consistution, rather than implementing laws to the letter.

If you have the right political connections, you can break the law without consequences. Even the violator, would tell you to 'go to court' because the judicial system is rotten.

As Minister of state for Health, Tunji Alausa did it in other health councils by nominating and imposing his friends as board chairmen, even when they are not qualified to be there against Federal statutes and laws governing the establishment of those council. Brazen lawlessness that must never go unpunished someday.

He is now trying to entrench that anomaly by going through the backdoor to amend the laws that govern those Medical councils in the National assembly. We have read the proposed bills and are working against it, rightfully so.

So, my dear friend, it is not really about whether those Physicians you mentioned are qualified. Without M.Sc and PhD, they were obviously not qualified ab initio. They became VCs because in Nigeria, rules are bent and laws are fragrantly and wantonly violated to serve selfish interests.

So do not celebrate lawlessness. It is pyrrhic and not sustainable in the long run.

If you want to be VCs and Professors LEGITIMATELY, go get your PhD and stop bandying around a professional vocational diploma and try to shove it down our throats as M.Sc or PhD.

Be good, my friend.

AceNY:
You are wrong and uninformed. Calling the Fellowship a vocational certificate is a demonstration of pure hatred for the medical Fellowship because the NUC refused to accept your FWACPHARM and FWACLab in Nigeria's University system. Getting paid while studying only makes you jealous of Doctors. It doesn't make Resident Doctors in Postgraduate training less of scholars than those doing PhDs. Some of your PhD students get paid too while studying. Does it make them part time scholars? Does it invalidate them? Again be educated: The medical Fellowship in Nigeria is a 6yr program (7yrs for some) which has 3 stages of centrally organised examinations and a Centrally coordinated Theses defence after Clinical and Lab research. You obviously dont know that a Research Theses is involved. What other academic content do you require? Indeed the Medical Fellowship holder is doubly qualified as an Academic and a Clinician. That is what you AHPs are jealous of and that is what fosters your hatred for Doctors.

Your grouse is because is anchored on the Ministry of Health refusing to set up Residency programmes in Pharmacy and Allied health professions in yhe Teaching Hospitals unlike the medical Residency. So what you cannot have, you disparage and condemn (though secretly in your heart of hearts you desire it😄)

For your information, some of the top decorated University and Research scholars in Nigeria are Professors who are Medical Fellowship holders and who hold no PHD. (Deal with it!) Go and check the TETFUND database of medical research funded for University scholars.

Also, We know the American system quite well. Carefully google Prof Gbenga Ogedegbe. One of the most awarded Black Tenure-Track Physician Professors. Look for a PhD in his bio and you wont find one. I rest my engagement with you here....for most of you Allied Health Professionals, your grouse is anchored on pure hatred for the Medical profession...yet the Medical profession is the Anchor profession which gave birth to and trained the forebears of your professions.

I wish you the best in your International Open University. If you ever need a knee replacement (I pray not ever) let's see how a PhD will solve that😃

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Every Health profession is allied to one another in some way. So technically you are also allied to Pharmacy, MLS and vice-versa. Technically, every health profession (including physicians) are AHPs.

Whenever you lots are cornered with facts about the non-viability of your vocational diploma fellowship certificate as an academic substitute for an M.Sc or PhD, you scream 'Oh.. everybody is jealous of us.'. Laughable.

Many Health professionals would not change their profession for anything else. Do you know how much it costs to set up an accreditable pharmacy or fully functional medical laboratory? Their professions have given them comfort and resources more than they ever asked for, so why should they be jealous?

Listen, there are global Open Universities where Nigerians are working with their M.Sc and PhD while earning top dollar without having to leave the comfort of their rooms.

Let's do a practical experiment, send your fellowship certificate as a substitute for PhD or M.Sc to WES for evaluation, let's see how that pans out?

Continue to allow your minister of Education Dr Tunji Alausa (who is a physician) deceive you. When is he done messing up the education system and the NUC because of interprofessional politics that he has continued to play since his days as former Minister of state of health and destroying every facet of education in his rabid selfish quest to intimidate the system in favour of his professional comrades, we will count the scores when the dust settles.

NUC law says you cannot be a Professor or Vice Chancellor if you do not have a PhD. That law still stands and will not tampered without the input of other professionals and representatives, before ratification in the National assembly..

He is one of the reasons I have continued to encourage many health professionals to get into politics like every other person, no matter how busy they are.

Other health professionals have allowed their heads to be shaved in their absence for too long, because Nigerians were blind for too long, and were deceived enough to allow one profession to continue to make policies for other health professionals. That situation is now being challenged and rightfully so.

Nigeria is not the only place where Healthcare is practiced. Every Health professional is an autonomous leader in his own profession. Doing Pharmacology and Laboratory practical for one semester or year does not give you the right to disregard those who spent 5 years studying Pharmacy or MLS, with some of them earning M.Sc and PhDs in their respective fields.

AceNY:
You call a 6 year Academic Fellowship, examined by 3 stages of Central Examinations and a Centrally defended Theses by Examinations (not cooked PhD defences topped by plates of rice and amala) and recognised world over a vocationalFellowship? Laughable bro. Go to the US.... A Medical degree and Fellowship gets you to Professorship without requiring a PhD. Be informed Bro. The Medical Fellowship is superior to any PhD!

Your fellowship is a vocational certificate and at best a part-time diploma. It is not in anyway at par with a PhD, and cannot substitute for it.

You get paid for work while doing the vocational training for fellowship, so you are not a full-time scholar.

Your fellowship diploma cannot get you a Faculty placement reserved for M.Sc and PhD holders.

I work in an International Open University with accreditation and offices in the US, UK and EU. The minimum qualification for an Adjunct Faculty is M.Sc. Your fellowship diploma cannot get you anywhere near that door.

Now let me educate you even more, in US colleges, every lecturer is called a Professor by American Students, even if you have just a Bachelor's degree or Master's degree. Being a Professor (lecturer) is job, not a bogus title.

However, there are Tenure-track Professors- the ones who have transited from the probationary tenure of Adjunct Prof to Assistant Professor to Full time permanent Professorship status, after 5-8 years.

In STEM, they have Labs named after them in the Faculty where they lead funded research works e.g Nwosu Lab or Kaparsky Lab. Ultimately they must have their PhDs and would mostly do Post-Docs. You can't compare you Fellowship diploma to what their M.Sc and PhD.

Go figure.

CharlesCNG:
My brother, thank you for reading my "epistles." At least unlike some comments, they contain arguments.

Now to your points.

First, an official residence for judges is not "extravagance." By your logic, military barracks are extravagant. Legislative quarters are extravagant. Presidential villas are extravagant. In every serious country, certain offices come with institutional accommodation.

Second, you say judges are being rewarded "more than they deserve." According to who? A Court of Appeal judge handles election petitions, constitutional disputes and multi-billion-naira cases. You want such a person worrying about rent and landlords?

Third, if a judge's conscience can be bought by an official residence, then your problem is not with the house but with the judge. By the same logic, legislators and ministers should be incapable of scrutinizing the executive because they too enjoy official perks.

Fourth, your "what about doctors, soldiers, police and teachers?" argument is a classic case of false choice. Improving judges' welfare does not require worsening that of others. In fact, I support better welfare for doctors, soldiers, police and teachers too. One good policy is not invalidated because another group also deserves attention.

Finally, I find it amusing that you describe official quarters as "extravagant." Apparently, in your ideal democracy, judicial independence is best protected with leaking roofs and overdue rent notices.


A judiciary weakened by financial vulnerability is far more dangerous than one strengthened by institutional dignity.

And please, if my "epistles" do not hold water, kindly stop drinking from them. 😁

Were the Judges living on trees or hanging in the air before Wike (a frequent litigant) bribed them with houses and cars?

Why are you trying to justify this moral and unethical anomalies with fake objectivity?

AMINDA:
Yet, the Southeast is the only region that votes one-way like a herd while every other region split their votes among different parties as a measure of security. This has only ensured that they cannot become shareholders in the political party that ends up winning because they put all their political eggs in one basket while vilifying other persons from their region that takes a separate stance. What's wrong in giving all the major parties substantial votes in order to reduce your risk? Afterall, giving 100% of your votes to a single individual will still not make him president unless the votes are merged with those from other regions. This herd mentality was what cost the region the senate presidency in 2015 when Ngige was voted out for aligning with the APC.

'Share the votes among all parties' like Tinubu's rice abi?

Nigerians, una never for democracy..

Sagay should keep his mouth shut and hold his peace forever.

He was a staunch buharist who lost brain cells in 2015..

He should be ashamed of himself..

E fun ni Iresi bulaba. Won ma dibo fun wa.

PO is clearly better than that Bulaban druggie.

AceNY:
Unfortunately Mr Pharmacist, in order to undermine the contribution of doctors to patient care, you have chosen to mis-inform the public. At every point in a patient's journey, the work of you Paramedics are still verified and reported by a DOCTOR. So the Doctor's role does not end with merely making diagnoses and developing a treatment plan.

The patient's journey through the various paramedics specialities is vetted by a DOCTOR. The lab test is reported by a Laboratory physician and used (or discarded if considered not useful) by the managing Doctor

The Clinical pharmacologist (A DOCTOR) ensures the decisions of the Pharmacist has clinical relevance

While the nurse is providing care, the Doctor does ward round every day to monitor and guide the work of the nurses. Nurses work as per Doctor's instructions.

A medical laboratory scientist does not generate critical diagnostic information in isolation. His tests are reported, validated and interpreted clinically by a Laboratory Physician

You Mischievously refused to disclose that a Radiographer's images are verified, validated and reported by a Doctor RADIOLOGIST

The paramedic specialities you listed do NOT make final decisions on patient care. The Doctor's input is made at each of these stations of care. Even for physiotherapy, it is the DOCTOR who determines who gets physiotherapy and who is NOT fit for physiotherapy.

Your post appears informative on the surface, but it is filled half truths and under-representation of facts.

Your post is the result of the inter-professional rivalry (and pharmaco-inferiority complex) that you claim you want to discourage.

If you are well lettered and not a run-off-the-mill physician, you would know that those non-physician health professionals are not 'Paramedics'.

Paramedics are Emergency Medical Technicians (First Responders), I have pounded this knowledge into many of you, but the highfalutin brainwash you got from your lecturers who failed in private medical practice and had to find refuge in academia in order to eke out a living, would not let you learn proper facts.

KennethOkonkwo:
You are right BUT,
Mr Pharmacist,the Medical Doctor is still the de facto leader of that team.Its a natural law that in a working team,there must be the lead.Even the brain coordinates the function of other part of the body despite the fact that each organ is practically important.The presidency is still the head of government not matter how powerful the other arms are.

The doctor owns the patients and he is responsible if any of the plan he formulated goes wrong.

He doesnt only think of just drugs like pharmacists...Nor think of just tests like MLS ...Nor think of just patient monitoring and care like the Nurses...Nor just restoring function like the physiotherapist...He thinks about that patient as a whole!

MEDICINE IS NOT JUST DRUGS(PHARMACISTS),JUST MONITORING(NURSES),REHABILITATION(PHYSIOTHERAPY),TESTS(LAB SCIENTISTS).SOMEONE ASSIGNS ROLES AND COORDINATE ALL THIS ACTIVITIES,THAT PERSON IS A MEDICAL DOCTOR!

We shouldnt be misleading the public!

Nobody 'owns' anybody in healthcare. The patient is not your slave and you cannot own the patient. The patient is in the center, while every healthcare professional surrounds him.

You are not practicing Dinosaur age medicine.

Some of your failed lecturers who couldn't manage their private practices and had to find refuge in lecturing, are responsible for these erraneous highfalutin thoughts of yourselves.

They are the set of people who are too lazy to back to school to acquire a PhD and now want to deceive the Nigerian National assembly to convert their vocational fellowship certifications (which is at best a professional diploma) to PhD by fiat. Laughable.

Tell your lecturers to go back to school and acquire a PhD if they want to lecture and become VCs in our Universities. Professional fellowship certificates are not equal to PhDs.

Stop trying to normalize abnormalities by taking advantage of the ignorance of Nigerians.

koladata:
No be lie. I really think Fed needs to look into salary scale especially for this big companies like banks and other established companies , you can't be making millions and be paying people salary that can't take them home

How do you measure 'big companies'. Is it by the volume of customer base, the money they make in a year (which you think is billions in your imagination), or the popularity of their name?

Do you know if the 'big' company is servicing debts, distressed or cutting expenses just to stay afloat?

Do you know if they have spent billions acquiring another company and expected to run at a loss for the next 5 years, before they can break even and make their first 1 kobo profit? How about losing a good chunk of their customer base and top talents to new competitors?

Listen, if you have never run a company of your own and paid salaries for at least 3 years, I cannot respect that person's opinion on business management.

I have ran businesses and paid salaries for 13 years. It is like going to war.

Na to begin wear cap and sunglasses remain for am.

Cameras everywhere.

AntiChristian:
It's tribal for some tribes to abuse and condone abuse! The Ọmọluabi generation do not abuse. They settle disputes amicably!

Na yourself you dey deceive, and e good like that..

The British? I laugh..

No group of creatures can ever be so sleazy.

That corrupt judge Lifu should never be allowed to escape scot-free for his consistent brazen disregard for judicial ethos and rabid gluttony for Wike's bribe.

We must return back capital punishments like firing squad for corrupt politicians and judges. They have fed so fat and have grown so much in confidence when taking bribes in broad day light, while telling Nigerians to do their worst or go to hell.

Peter Lifu will not end well.

Every Tom, Dick and Harry dey call himself politician nowadays..

Who be Agada abi na Agidi?

Nigerians no look any Bulaban face before dem vote PO for 2023, dem no go look any face before dem go vote am again for 2027.

Ofunaofu:
One of the reasons I want a new government to take over in 2027 is the hope that it will sanitize the judiciary. Rogue judges like Justice Lifu would be summarily retired and disgraced out of the judicial system.

Not just disgraced but prosecuted.

Politicians and their amnesia..

The memory of the internet will continue to shock them..

Certain corrupt Judges should be marked for arrest, prosecution and possible execution, when Tinubu is kicked out next year..

Tinubu continue to play us the nollywood movie.. We dey watch..

The Igbos are not very good slaves who like to be told what to do by Feudo-fascists.

They are stubbornly and obstinately republican and believe in their own freedom of thought. You must understand this if you must successfully lead them.

Rulers don't survive in Igboland, only leaders do.

Jungle go soon mature and water will find its natural level.

Tinubu and Wike, continue to push Nigerians to their tolerance limit..

Whatever you sow, you shall reap. Poetic justice is on the way. Brace up..

Justice Peter Lifu and Justice James Omotosho, some of the most corrupt judges in Nigeria as we speak.

You can get any judgement from their chambers as long the price is right.

Serious dangers to democracy..

BTW Lekan Abejide is an elected House of Rep member and an ADC member.

Tinubu is clearly afraid of Atiku Atiku should not take it lightly..

HacheNoire:
A good one coming from South-East!

With the infrastructural and human investment been done across the South East, it’s imperative for the South East to back the candidacy of His Excellency, President Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu (GCFR)

Our Great party does know the elites of the South East share same vision with us even though we still have lines where we disagree which we mostly do reach agreement.

On behalf of my Honorable and impeccable self, and His Excellency, President Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu (GCFR), we would like to thank and appreciate the gesture and trust the South East has bestowed upon our Great party.

God bless the South East!

God bless The Federal Republic of Nigeria

God bless His Excellency, President Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu (GCFR)

If you believe that Umahi can deliver his village polling unit in Ebonyi for Tinubu, then I am the King of England..

Water would soon find its level and jungle go soon mature..

When Yar adua and Buhari were in power did they deregister any party because they were afraid of any SW contestants?

Tinubu, continue you hear?

Oshio the glorified tailor-cum-activist that year.

Gani Fahwehinmi bin think say the guy na saint o.. He know no say Adams go worse pass devil if power reach him hand...

RecentHistory:
Lagos is not your home.
We will clear your doubt, na small time remain.

If that doubt no include to achieve Oduduwa republic, e don fail from ab initio be that..

E pele..

You can now go on and use a screenshot Illbliss previous comment for your propaganda campaign against Igbos and Easterners in favour of APC.

Dem no kukuma send you..