@KunleOshob
"He is also trying to protect the fraudulent organisation he works for. They must be exposed at all cost"

Well said that's what I saw from many CE people they are first CE members then christians, all along you clearly prove to them what God says instead of what Pastor Chris says, one cannot or will not understand now someone wants to be serious because of what Crossman9 has said, not that he cares I have been there I know but he is "protecting the ministry" and thus his career.

I will always repeat what I have always said "Noone who goes to the Healing School I mean 'K'ealing School  gets healed as long as I know them". So partnering, evangelizing, Rhapsody buying and free distribution were all sins before God and that not of a small magnitude.

@mabell
You cannot say that Leaders at CE care, really you still do not get the message-----
The message is that people are being given spiritual poison, so they can take it at home and fail in careers, health and family bonds. Those who seem to care are either
1. Not really aware to what righteousness is all about
2. Beneficiaries if the system and will never have it changed(remember whenever there is an evil work, there are beneficiaries who defend the wickedness even in the world Hitler, Idi Amin etc ) they send people who do the dirty work.

The 'K'ealing Ministry of Pastor Chris GFP is one such organization. But I no longer blame the instigators of this as they are at work.

You Crossman9, Vivi,Kunle,Enigma you are presenting your points from Jesus' point of view, while the CE members are rooted in their careers they are working(not for God) and they do not care.

You cannot say they do not know whats going on no matter how blind you are, its just greed and wickedness that can make a man practice such. If you have been at CE I mean ACE you should be knowing this clearly, its very clear, clear as fresh water. So don' think there is any blind person they are part of the syndicate.

@joagbaje
"1 Corinthians 6:18
Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body."


If that is a real question I will answer you-----See you do not own yourself I know at CE Pastor Chris GFP says "you own the world", that is a lie on its own the bible says "The earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof" . The earth is the Lord's, your body and spirit are the Lord's also

Now to then go your own way and say I am destroying my own body its fine------REALLY it shows a serious problem---but I will not be harsh on you because also its not your fault. No wonder I am taking a stance of patience because the matter is more serious than I thought.

On top of that if you are a christian your body is the temple of the Holy Spririt, you cant say defiling God's temple is no problem, as for Pastor Chris GFP, I have seen this and saw it well that he is not a 'god' so we do not have to take a stance against God to favour him.

Remember demons are demons because of exactly that, why not learn from them

In the book of Revelations that is exactly the doctrine of Jezebel, Balaam and the Nicoleatans of stretching the limits of grace. Grace has a limit if done consciously and without care then we cannot pride ourselves at all

Remember "Grieve not the Holy Spirit by whom ye were sealed until the day of redemption"

Please allow me to put across a very important contribution----LOL! 

@joagbaje

What you said here is so wrong, it falls perfectly with my #5 list of Genuine False Prophet (GFP) signatures, of diverting attention from God to themselves. How can we say such as christians?

@joagbaje
"That's what ignorant people usually say. But those who are advance in understanding of Gods word knows that I allow the scriptures speaks for itself. Clear now?"

No not at all you claim advancement in the word of God when Pastor Chris tries to make CE more than a church, and does not know what is a confession which advanced knowledge is that?

I have discovered that no one who fails grade 1 maths can right afterwards get into a college exam and get any marks. Same here church is a simple bible word and Pastor Chris GFP stumbles there, ---wait confession is an even easier word biblically and Pastor Chris falls there too.

So the "advanced" you are talking about is poorly placed first get simple definitions right then you can start your 'advanced' whatever. Get simple ones right full stop! then we can move to 'advanced' stuff

@joagbaje
"This is a simple grammar . Church refers to the body of christ. Church refers to a congregation."

You see this is good stuff!! when you say things this way we can always totally agree. This good at least at a basic level we are together, I will never disagree with somebody who sees things this way, why should I ?

The only challenge comes from your follow-up statements in effect I am convinced you now really know whats happening only that it feels queer to disagree with Pastor Chris but let the truth be said.

Christ has one body, the fingers are part the body, the arms,legs, ribs etc but he is the head. He being the head esteems all parts equally Paul even explains how this stands, although we might in our view not see it at such at a particular time in our walk with Christ, but that stands as the ultimate truth.

Saying 'this' also becomes wrong in the sense that you have not stuck to the original definition, the only way the 'vision' can be correct is to remove the word "more" so that it( the "vision" is PART of the body of Christ. If therefore it is part of it, in no way can it claim a superior position over any part of it.  

I will not therefore try to arm twist you on then what is "The church" and "A church" because I am assuming you can see they are the same.

@crossman9

my email is

You can send me those cartoons they make my day actually, I have been having my own ranking of the cartoons so far it stands

1. Parroting on Pastor Chris (enough laughter for the whole year)

2. God wants you well but Pastor Chris pays you well (top of the range imagination, I have seen cartoons by professionals but 99% of them are hardly ever close to these two)

I tell you its one thing for a person to tell you about his ordeal at CE, but this shows that the person knows the place.

The questions are there on my previous posts page 45, there is even one for mabell if you are kind enough to answer on his behalf. Then we will take it from there.

@newmi

People are pointing out things to find out truth that is their motivation. It is only fair to tell them the truth, the truth only. You know it why do you pretend not to know it.

You are talking about bibles not being free---on that you told a half truth CE does not give free bibles full stop.

You can (for the sake of an invitation) get a Rhapsody of Fakealities still not the Bible! and there is also a reason why?

@newmi "There is no place that suggest such, it is Salvation that is free. The gospel simple means "good news" how can you say "good news" is free; does it make any sense?"
---------Which one common sense or spiritual sense?

@mabell
"can everybody (considering the crowd the church pulls) attend service in the lagos venue?"

That's not true at all, at all, is money the only way to make sure there is not one left outside(assuming CE really wanted people not to be disappointed)

You can say "first come first serve, simple and straight forward that's how church is, come and get a seat early where you can seat that is and no one can remove you-simple" there is nobody that does not know that, you have to be early. Or at the very least give free tickets no ticket no entry.

And if you read my post carefully I said it is not just the faith or christianity that screens, it is the MONEY, IPPC, leaders meetings etc (you know that why do we talk like people who do not know what happens?? it is clear for those who want to see) and I know this that if someone is always benefiting he will never want it changed--- simple.

So far what I can easily conclude is that anyone that does not love truth when it comes and is clear, is a beneficiary of the system, one way or the other, a genuine giver who works for his money and prays for opportunities in this world cannot see injustice and clap hands and say "let it continue".

"No money no gospel" WOW that's new, to enter MONEY to make the "anointing" work MONEY read Acts 8v22 ---the Holy Spirit cannot be bought Simon Magus tried it and Paul told him straight away to repent because its a sin---but he was used to buying magic power, he thought its the same in Christianity.

But today's church supports it very much, and who can tell them they are 'gods' who will instruct them they have 'phronesis' who can rebuke them 'they are the righteousness of God', and who can point out that there is an error "Pastor Chris is a prophet sent to their generation."

@Vivi

You are right there they are not in it for the money as such there is a greater plan maybe that's the so called "vision" and is disguised with good words that can be accepted. One of the reasons they are in it is my #5

#5.
They want to be worshiped (not just reverenced, respected, feared, loved, praised etc)

How ?

After a thorough drill of twisting scripture and putting the written word anywhere but first, they successfully convince a follower to trust them more and more, more and more and more, more than anything including God---- as he can only be found in the bible, christian bible that is (not any material although it can be useful at times) but not as a replacement or equally esteemed to the Bible.

At CE to be specific you are told that you are 'a god' {Eve's very first temptation--she fell for it}---so now that you are 'a god' not a royal priesthood who is a priest and cannot pay tithe, as priests do not pay but receive tithe.

Pastor Chris is a bigger 'god' than you----remember the book Animal Farm ---where "all animals were equal some being more equal than others" lol
You get the point!

These 'gods' are not equal some are clearly more equal than others because, money goes in one direction, interpretation of scripture not different, the other 'gods' do not have 'rhema'.

Now you are on the highway of god worshiping and that has always been a weakness of man, Jews in particular, always wanting a god they can see.
Now the solution is here!!! he can be  seen clearly Pastor Chris GFP. He never fails "I have never suffered in my life" Pastor Chris GFP

"I will never be broke in my life, I will never be sick , I will never suffer in my life" Pastor Chris GFP

How can an unlearned christian resist this 'god' he never suffered and never will he looks better than Job{suffered without cause}, Paul{was killed}, Peter{killed}, Jesus{killed before he rose again}, John the baptist {killed} many christians also

This one stands alone claims a better position

This is done strategically you cannot see it at once until you dare to challenge it, after seeing many things not adding up.

This ticketed event story, is the mark of CE meetings there are many where you cannot enter only by faith or professing to be a christian, you have to have a certain amount of money you gave to the church---which  is clearly is not biblical it's actually against all conscience.

People complain about racism etc, but this is discrimination of the poor which is worse being done by a self professed 'christian'{not just a lost CE member but instigated by Pastor Chris PhD, I mean Pastor Chris GFP (Genuine False Prophet)}

MOB psychology is used to make you feel out of place if you don' give, and giving is made public, the exact opposite of Mat 6v1 onwards. There are people that are known givers and made public and they are celebrities in CE fraternities, i wont mention names here ----but you get the point?

If giving is between you and God why do we need a champion and make those who are still learning feel awkward.

The biggest givers are Pastors who collect money from you through false doctrine like "seed" (not in the bible), and give it back to church which is them again, but when it's happening you cant see it until God opens your eyes to say --I don't operate like this my son

Whats my point----Christianity has basics the main being love, mercy, humility, CONTENTMENT etc be ye content with what ye have and thanking the Lord for it, do not try too many inventions Christianity has a clear and narrow path to eternal life(Mat7v13) onwwards, money cannot save you but humility and God's mercy can.

@1Godfather
"I still want a clear archive of Pastor Chris's messages"

Experience is the best teacher because if people tell you, you will think they are lying, or they simply don' like him, don't we have anything better to do than to spend time posting (which is a matter of minutes anyway, i don' research between posts i say what i experienced first hand) but helps people see that deception wastes money and more importantly time(can be decades).

About the "clear archive" you are looking for----the best archives to test are in your pocket and wallet, start with "Praying the right way"

After that send a post on what you thought

#4. Genuine False Prophets (GFP) put the 'prophetic' word above the written word(scripture)

The 4th point about GFPs like Pastor Chris PhD, I mean Pastor Chris GFP they play down the written word, and when they have to use it, they twist scripture.

Right let's move----what are we talking about?
We mean statements like  "the Holy Ghost told me to, " "the Holy Ghost said, " even if it is clearly in sharp contrast with the bible. This automatically puts people in a Pastor Chris prison because they are convinced  he is 'anointed' if they dare question poverty will come (when its already there at times).

The bible is a secondary, if not tertiary source of the word only used to make them give e.g Malachi 3v10(twisting scripture).

You are told of angels and endless visions and dreams people have to seduce you into sin claiming 'The spirit spoke to me and said______' ---- Read Col 2v18

One sister from CE spoke to me how the spirit had spoken to her about rapture, I said to myself 'that's a lie'. The rapture itself is false doctrine even if someone tells you the 'spirit' spoke to him Jesus told us he is coming again, ONCE I repeat ONCE again ONCE no scripture has Jesus taking people privately for them to avoid great tribulation, christians will be there on great tribulation-----I have Bible proof!!!


OK Mr GFP how come you are never told to repent of sin FIRST!!! if it is spirit that wrote the bible, God is not inconsistent. How come he tells you whats not in the bible "only you"(parroting)

The bible is the final authority full stop.

There is  a reason why you are drugged with so called 'ministry materials' they achieve many things in one as follows not in any order

a) Inject money into the GFPs empire
b) Fail to open and understand the bible and wait for the GFP(because he always comes with 'rhema' which is a twisting of scripture e.g the
"iPrayer"  firstfruits, righteousness consciousness & twisting songs like "amazing grace" and "I surrender all" etc (for a reason these songs are "humility before God"songs if people sing them too much there might be a problem)
c)get the stuff hooked and crooked into CE as that is where their salary will be coming from


All this is carefully planned for you to start having no confidence in the Bible, remember this the bible is the target!!!

this is done to achieve number 5(very important!!)

TO BE CONTINUED

@mabell
"But you don't sound like a CE member at all"

If that had been said to me my reply would have been "Thanks for the compliment!"

@mabell
"CE is all about winning souls and giving lives meaning"-----

Winning them into what? {Please read Matthew 23v16 diligently}

Mabell and Joabgaje have not answered my questions, but they like asking others questions and demand answers---------we give them

Please answer the questions whats so difficult I need to raise more points on other things which you said which are equally wrong.

Or should we call it case adjourned?

@joagbaje
"And how do you know how rich he lives in his privacy? "

You do not need to be spiritual at all for this ---its called Common Sense

Ask how?

@crossman9

"Or a congregation of local people who worship God who are part of the body of CHRIST "


When I said what i said before it was like i was looking at the dictionary -----

But it is not so when people exalt materials more than the bible

The Rhapsody of Fakealities has a daily dosage to result in such understanding.


Remember this its a daily drill If you survive?------you have a phone number, you will be followed up until you are fade up.

And when you come in then more faking is available and you will not escape, fake healing, false prophecies under noisy conditions of people shouting over what they never really heard.

This also reminds me of a Leroy Thompson GFP video where he said "the Lord is telling me to say something" and said something afterwards which does not make common sense at all!! People shouted and started rising up to give seed.

Which seed?

There is nothing like seed offering in the bible, I mean Christian Bible because some blasphemous bibles have come along.

The seed "sowing" went on for minutes I tell you its real, and these Creflo (blasphemer), Leroy(Money grabber), Jesse Duplantis (Blasphemer) Benny Hinn love this seed business and it is fake clearly.

So Pastor Chris GFP is still a learner in these things his icons are in America and have jets let right and center

@crossman9
Well said and clearly put across

Mabell and Joagbeje still waiting for your feedback

Bear in mind that i was once at CE ---Therefore been there done that, got a T-shirt, I  MEAN bought a T-shirt

@obailala
Pastors can make mistakes

These are not mistakes, accident whatever you might want to call them---

These are carefully orchestrated actions to deceive gullible christians

Besides the bible "Be ye holy as I am holy" these Pastors do chase holiness but money

There is a god of money mentioned in the bible called "mammon"

So check the bible to see the difference a Pastor who prioritizes wealth over holiness is Mammon worshiper---he will obviously deny it----

but he cannot burn all bibles in the world.

@mabell

Tell us from the bible where there was "a church under a mother church"-----

Scripture please!!!!

And also please refer to Crossman9's last cartoon, just to see what I said. You can not invent words to suite your CE language.

There is nothing like "a church under a mother church"----
---
all are PART of the body of Christ (which i repeat again!!!! is not bigger than them as they are part of it), I wrote that 3 times in my previous blog because i knew someone will not hear it I know CE people I have been there.

But to comment on mindset whether sealed or open I will not do that

@joagbaje
"There is a difference between 'The church' and 'church' "

For interests sake in a few words define for us the difference between the two.

For example

The church is this---------------

AND

Church is that--------------------

According to the bible please because at Christ Embassy I know you are masters of twisting words, tell us from the bible how the two are different.

--------I want to raise a point that shows why using the word "this" is so wrong

Then we can start moving!!!!!!

@joagbaje
"this vision is more than a local church. Local churches are only a part of the big vision".

I heard clearly what was said and as can be seen from what you have quoted it cannot help anyone reconsider, "I said there is nothing greater than the church"

If you think just because a church looks small or rather too "local" to you therefore they are not significant or there is something somewhere called a "vision" MORE  than them you are deceived. Look at your last statement ---

"Local churches are only part of the big vision"

The "only" word shows how you belittle them and don' understand how the gospel functions, there is nothing bigger than them at all!!!

A "local church" is part of the body of Christ. I repeat PART of the body of Christ. Once again PART of it.

Therefore nothing is bigger them as your "big vision" theory states.


If they are PART of the body of Christ nothing can exalt itself above it ---- 2 Corinthians 10v5


Your so called "vision" whatever cannot be exempted

After preaching Jesus and getting a person saved through REPENTANCE from sin step number 2 is to preach a sermon titled-----

FALSE PROPHETS 101

We live times where the most suspicious doctrine is one where they exalt a "Man of God" more than The God who made the man. A world doctrine silent on False Prophets ------That's a clear red light.

@crossman9

How about this one "This is more than a church, its a vision" Pastor Chris GFP (meaning CEmbassy)

What!!! ?? There is no institution that is greater than the church of Jesus on earth, and certainly none equal--because the church is the actual bride of Christ and he is coming for us without spot nor blemish.

"I shall build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail" not any other institution that tries to exalt itself above the knowledge of Christ-- 2 Cor 10v5

The Innercity Mission is a CE part whose mission is to take care of the needy.

You see organizations that take care of the needy, have a strong desire and that is to help the less privileged and are funded by what some call "well wishers" etc.

They always accept gifts in "CASH and KIND" remember this so you will not be deceived. I said cash and kind!

Now at CE the kind part is not open WHY?? simple how then will Pastor Chris PhD I mean Pastor Chris GFP buy expensive suits. Any genuine organization that depends on receiving something from others will accept old clothes, shoes, fridges,stoves etc not Christ Embassy because how will they sell them to buy posh cars everyone will see(those who really love God and abhor evil), but with money it is easy they(givers) obviously don' know how much they are giving.

Also as a christian when the bible says narrow is the way-- How narrow you might ask

The best indications come whenever God judged a particular land the same way he will at the end of the world.

1. During Noah's time 8 people where saved out of the whole world, there could have been 200 000 people, but you see the proportion

2.Lot's time 2 cities where judged only 3 people survived(They should have been 4 but the disobedience continued)

One can say it is  the old testament but still Jesus said the same in the New Testament.

Beloved I exhort you to be diligent and extremely humble in your walk with Christ not walking too presumptuously, sinning deliberately saying because you are born again, claiming you know the will of God, even beyond the normal human limits will not help anyone.

8.Wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction and MANY shall enter thereat. Mat 7v13

The teachings there are corrupt as they say "what God considers to be sin for one person is not necessarily sin to another"Pst Chris GFP paraphrased from the DVD Concept of Sin

Here he used Samson and David as examples--not good doctrine at all Samson died for giving his heart to Delilah in the end, David lost his kingdom for a while to his son Absolom for his issue with Bethsheba, sin is sin no matter who you are.

This looks very innocent to a new christian, but he is teaching a broad way to heaven! not a narrow one, Jesus preached a "strait gate, narrow way to heaven".

The gospel according to Pst Chris GFP, has nothing to do with Jesus also in that regard.

TO BE CONTINUED

3. They tell their people/followers what they want to hear

"The time will come when people will not listen to sound doctrine, but will follow their own desires and collect for themselves more and more teachers who will tell them what they want to hear" 2 Tim 4v3 GNB

Right let's move--before we understand whats happening now lets take into consideration prophets of old according to the bible-its the only true Word of God . Jeremaiah, Isaiah, Hosea, Zephaniah etc were sent to warn the people about God's wrath(captivity into Babylon) to come. These were the true prophets of God, at that very time other prophets who had a GFP signature arose and said the very opposite, telling people that "this is the land of our fathers we shall be on it ever as God has given it to us"(paraphrased). Jonah sent to Nineveh did not bring what sounded good to itching ear, he told them God was going to destroy the land in 40 days(which is a number for testing), they REPENTED and turned to God and were saved.

Now in the modern world people are in need of medical, financial, political etc solutions, the most appropriate person to be there is the GFP-according to the princes of darkness.

How?? they tell them"Its time for your healing" "God does not want you poor" "We are taking over the world" etc from afar these look correct until you come in, and study the bible.

Sorry Mr GFP people are not in need of financial prosperity, they need REPENTANCE to depart from sin FIRST where does today's MESSAGE TITLES fit with the old like---

1.Repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand(Mat 3v2)
2.Mercy and not sacrifice(Hosea 6v6, Mat 12v7)
3.Repent and pray(Acts 8v22), not just pray
4.Jesus is the only way(John 14v6)

Just to name a few these MESSAGE TITLES cannot be seen from a GFP, they cause a man to change kingdoms instantly.


TO BE CONTINUED

@crossman9---The cartoon "Parroting Pastor Chris"  is so funny it makes till you cry because it takes a person who was there and had eyes opened, to really appreciate how well orchestrated it is really, it made me laugh so much !

7. Said the woman that gave that most in the temple one day was the one who gave two mites based on what remained after she gave not how much was given.
But at CE Pst Chris PhD. sorry I mean Pastor Chris GFP. has awards year in year out where the biggest givers are awarded. Most of the top ten are usually Pastors who themselves don't bring money into the church but get it wittingly from members through false doctrine eg.

1. Tithe doctrine-false doctrine(I have lots of proof in the bible, you cannot tithe money) many churches preach it i though so I wont take too many marks away here
2. Firstfruit (outrageous doctrine)
3.Seed(not in the bible at all)
4.Partnership(Paying wheelchair and terminal illness "sufferers")
5.Special seed(especially outrageous! full stop)
6.Ministry material sales--the Rhapsody of Fakealities is your bible no body asks you if you have a bible as long as you have a ROF, DVDs even better

You see if these awards were Holy Spirit inspired the greatest award would have been the award of a person who inspite of his little tithe gave a lot for Reachout etc but not so remember that is too biblical it is not supposed to be that way otherwise people start searching their hearts and repenting of much of the doctrine.

TO BE CONTINUED