Ubenedictus: So you suddenly became blind to read that the writer of the book totally denied the conclusions he made after 10 years of been debunked and refuted.
Blind delusion sometimes affects comprehension. I can't help you if you choose not to understand what you are reading.
@Syncan, When you come back from church today feeling all pious and talking down on people who are not as holy as you,I would advise you to watch this video about the (in)famous Magdalene laundries in Ireland which were slave labour camps run by the Catholic church to keep the Pope and his hench men living in finery and sh1t. But then what do I know......
@syncan, I see your objective here. In the usual Catholic way. To leave the substance which is PAEDOPHILE CATHOLIC PRIESTS ABUSING AND ANALLY RAPING LITTLE CATHOLIC CHOIR BOYS,in their CARE WITH THE ACTIVE CONNIVANCE OF THE POPE,and chase shadows in order to deflect attention from the horror that the conglomerate called Catholicism represents.
Syncan: I have seen quite a number of your posts on nairaland. Your aggressive campaign to smear Catholicism, by bringing up from anywhere and everywhere, negative publications on various individuals and maybe groups in the Catholic Church, and falsely portraying it as what the church represent is disturbing.
Do you even think that good people have come through the Catholic Church? Do you believe that people's lives have been touched positively through the instruments of the church? Have you given a thought that those whose lives were touched positively have professed, do profess, and will profess, again and again, the goodness of the Church to them.
When you pick your battle, do your homework well. Things are not often the way it seems, be objective and free yourself from hate. Find below the confession of your hero, after 10 years of his book.
"While I believe with many commentators that the pope might have done more to help the plight of the Jews, I now feel, 10 years after the publication of my book, that his scope for action was severely limited and I am prepared to state this.... Nevertheless, due to his ineffectual and diplomatic language in respect of the Nazis and the Jews, I still believe that it was incumbent on him to explain his failure to speak out after the war. This he never did."
Quite frankly I believe the delusion of religion has so blinded you that you have comprehension problems. Read what you posted again.....this time slowly.
Is he right about debunking Catholic priests paedophilia and the Pope shielding them? Anybody can claim to debunk anything,it doesn't mean it didn't happen. There are Jewish people who claim to debunk the holocaust in which six million Jews were gassed to death by the Nazis. It doesn't mean it didn't happen. I have even seen people claiming General Sani Abacha didn't steal public funds,it doesn't mean he did not do it.
Just how you are debunking Catholic paedophilic priests raping choir boys here?
The evil of the conglomerate called the Catholic church did not start today. Goggle the Catholic secret archives . Which are archives hidden in the Vatican containing all the evil atrocities committed by your infallible pope and his henchmen over the ages.
Ubenedictus: you are back again with your accusations, the pope prevented the police from investigating crime abi?
the pope who was against both nazism and facism is now to blame for hitler! you need sleep.
Look you can only fool your fellow Catholics and not me. I suggest you goggle Hitler's pope, in order to know more about the atrocities committed by your pope during the Nazi era. Before the world war and after the war.
Hitler's pope is a book by British author John Cornwell detailing the actions and inactions of Eugenio Paccelli who became Pope Pius XII during Hitler's era. He was so interested in retaining power of the Catholic church that he failed to speak out against the Holocaust and gassing of the Jews by Hitler and Mussolini during the second world war.
Almost all the security agencies are headed by Northerners. The nepotism just tickles down from the top. The postings are done to favour their tribes. The lopsided postings are done with impunity to favour their tribes. It has become so rampant under this APC government. Just take a look at the commandants,commissioners,Comptollers,brigade commanders and naval commanders.You will be shocked.
JujuSugar: @MuttleyLaff, whilst awaiting your response, I went ahead to refresh my knowledge on the Jephthah story as well. Meanwhile, I've just gone through your entire post... [img]https://media./images/4b7128dd8a2410de0eec35afee295939/tenor.gif[/img] Not saying you are right or wrong but I applaud the effort, Sir Muttley. You have made us both spend roughly the whole day dragging on an issue that's not meant to be dragged in the first place. Now let me examine your response....
Two things here: 1) When you hear the word "whatsoever", what springs to your mind? 2) Muttley, I'm already disoriented from this rollercoaster of scripture washing and distortion you're subjecting me to here. The passage clearly said "whatsoever comes forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the LORD'S AND I will offer it up as a burnt offering.". So, pray tell, where are you getting this "If it happens to be an animal..." bit? This statement or anything at all that looks like it cannot be found in the verse. Lol @ this devious insertion of yours. Come to think of it, aren't you even committing a sin here, Muttley? Revelation 22: 18-19 Anyways, back to the topic. Muttley, let me tell you something...
It’s clear as a sunny day, Jephthah made a barbecue from his daughter, his only child.
Look very well at what the text says: Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah ... And Jephthah vowed a vow unto the LORD, and said, If thou shalt without fail deliver the children of Ammon into mine hands, Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the LORD's, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering. So Jephthah passed over unto the children of Ammon to fight against them; and the LORD delivered them into his hands.... And Jephthah came to Mizpeh unto his house, and, behold, his daughter came out to meet him with timbrels and with dances: and she was his only child.... And it came to pass, when he saw her, that he rent his clothes, and said, Alas, my daughter! thou hast brought me very low, and thou art one of them that trouble me: for I have opened my mouth unto the LORD, and I cannot go back. And she said unto him, My father, if thou hast opened thy mouth unto the LORD, do to me according to that which hath proceeded out of thy mouth.... And it came to pass at the end of two months, that she returned unto her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed. - Judges 11:29-40 He sacrificed her, Muttley. He cut her throat, like a sheep, and burned her body as an offering to Yahweh. By "bewailing her virginity," what is meant is that she is to mourn the fact that she will never bear children, never fulfilling the one purpose that women in that society had; the one thing a woman had which was seen to have any value (non-virgins were treated as damaged goods because a man couldn't be absolutely certain that any baby she had was his unless he knew she hadn't slept with anyone else). Understand, human sacrifice was not forbidden. Sacrifice to other gods was forbidden. Yahweh didn't find favor with Abraham because he didn't sacrifice his son — he found favor with Abraham because Abraham proved he was going to do it (see Genesis 22:1–19). We see this in multiple places throughout the Old Testament:
a) In the Ten Commandments in Exodus 34 (the actual Ten Commandments which were written on the stone tablets and described as such in the Bible — the ones that talk about not offering yeast with a blood sacrifice or boiling baby goats in their mothers' milk — not the spoken commands issued at the base of Mount Sinai in Exodus 20 that we are more familiar with), God instructs that firstborn sons belong to him, along with the firstborn of one's livestock. We see this also in Exodus 22:29–30. b) Samuel hacks King Agag of Amalek to pieces before the Lord in 1 Samuel 15. King Saul lost favor in the eyes of Yahweh because, when ordered by Yahweh (through Samuel) to kill the Amalekites - every man, woman, and child, and all the livestock - while Saul did kill the Amalekites, down to the last child, he initially spared their king and kept some of the Amalekites' animals alive to be sacrificed at the temple instead of killing them all on the spot. c) In 1 Kings chapter 13, 2 Kings chapter 23, and 2 Chronicles chapter 34, it is documented that King Josiah "did what was right in the eyes of the Lord" by smashing idols and graven images to other gods and burning their priests on their own altars d) In 2 Samuel 21, God is appeased to end a famine when David has two of Saul's sons and five of his grandsons killed. e) In Numbers 31, Yahweh orders Moses to order the slaughter of the Midianites. All of the men are killed, and Moses is angered to learn that women and young children were kept alive and orders them killed as well — except for virgin girls who are to be divided among the army as war spoils (sex slaves). Beginning in verse 25, Yahweh tells Moses how to divide the spoils, including the girls, who are listed alongside livestock to be distributed. A portion of each type of livestock is to be set aside to be sacrificed to Yahweh, including 32 of the surviving girls, as "heave offerings."
Even passages explicitly condemning human sacrifice (such as Leviticus 18:21 and 20:2) do so in the context of describing those sacrifices being made to other gods (usually Molech). Other members of the Canaanite pantheon, such as Baal and Chemosh, make appearances throughout the Old Testament — each of the nations had a national deity, with Chemosh being the god of the Moabites (for example) and Yahweh being the god of the Israelites, and depending on the fortunes of war between these nations one could begin to see the others' god as being more powerful. The Bible describes a battle where the Israelites are forced to retreat because the Moabite king sacrifices his son to Chemosh and gets a supernatural boost as a result (2 Kings 3:26–27).
Human sacrifice was common throughout the region, and women were regarded as cattle. It was a savage, barbaric time, Muttley.
Cc. budaatum, frank317, Dantedasz, CreepyBlackpool, LordReed, CodeTemplar
Permit me to sign off now, Its way past my bedtime . Good night, MuttleyLaff
Good job dear,but a total waste of time. The people you are debating are known on these boards for never being logical. They call red black as long as it suits their agenda and the agenda of their religious pamphlet.
I opened a thread like this last year,but the Catholic posters using their alternate monikers derailed by constantly posting off point,trolling and spamming. You may want to check it out. It is a lot more detailed especially the first four pages before they sent it off course.
Archbishop Vigano wrote series of letters to this present pope detailing series of abuse in the church and how this present pope has been covering up and delaying so that the issues can be forgotten by the public. Already most of the issues raised last year are off the front pages and the pope's Catholic conglomerate marches on. The victims conveniently forgotten or bought off with money.
Here is another Catholic beast/priest claiming the victims should be blamed for being attractive to their abusers. The Catholic church is made up of sick fvcks.
mekusmanuel: I must express my total disdain to the young man who accuses the Pope of shielding and protecting priests who are beloeved to have engaged in sexual abuse. Bros, it's work that way. The Pops from day one has always followed up the sex abuse alarm back to back.
I express my disdain for you and your pope both of you can kiss my big black behind. Rubbish. Have you ever spared a thought for the victims of serial and relentless abuse from Catholic perverted priests? No! Rather your pope has been sheilding these beasts. Maybe I should post some videos of the victims who are in perpetual pain from years of abuse and what has the goddam pope done about it A fat nothing.
Ubenedictus: Delaying what abeg? these issues have been on since 2001, that was since when this has been addressed... nobody in his right mind will imagine all those cases going away, the pope has a conference on it this year, why do u think he is waiting for it to go away.
My friend,you have come out of your cocoon to defend your Pope and his conglomerate again. Hope you wouldn't run away as usual. All I have to say to you is Archbishop VIGANO. VIGANO has written series of letters and exposes showing that your Pope knew about the serial and unrelenting abuse of children in the Catholic church for decades. The predecessor to the present pope knew about the abuse in fact that is one of the main reasons he resigned from the post expecting the present Pope to handle issues but he has been dilly dallying since last year when this crisis blew up. The Catholic popes ha e always had a policy of supporting EVIL in capital letters from Hitler and Mussolini to the present day perverted priests.
udopee: ***HOW THE ENEMY (DEVIL) USES HOUSEMAIDS TO DESTROY GODLY HOMES ***
In most family settings, there may be need to employ the services of a caregiver known as housemaid. The housemaids helps relieve stress and make things easier around the home like fetching water, washing clothes and plates, sweeping and cleaning the surroundings, bathing and caring for the kids as well as assisting in cooking. In fact, a good housemaid may be a blessing or a curse to the household that employed her. We cannot deny the fact that some are very useful but some of their bad habits should be checked and dealt with and not tolerated for a long time. Most of them, no matter how you show them love and acceptance or how good you treat them, it does not stop the devilish ones from unleashing their sudden hatred, anger and wickedness on the household that employed them.
Some of these housemaids can easily be tempted with material things and influenced negatively by enemies secretly lurking around as evil neighbors, relations and school teachers and be used as tools to perpetuate evil and all manners of wickedness in the home like stealing, spoiling of things in the home, maltreats and sexually assault children kept under their care, kidnapping, used as agents that leak vital information about the family to enemies which are used against them, seduces and sleeps with their bosses, and even murder.
The ones captured by the enemy (devil) are projected with demonic and foul spirits and used to manipulate the children of the boss and initiate them into evil. Some can cause frequent quarrel between the husband and wife. A situation where the wife does not have a tolerant and understanding husband, it intensifies the problem in the marriage and home. The husband who may be under the stronghold and demonic influence of the enemies will start finding unnecessary faults in the home and will accuse the innocent wife of being lazy, unproductive, useless and irresponsible and even lack home training. She cannot take care of her children and left the kids to be perishing, she is a parasite in his house and what she knows how to do best is eat and sleep, as if the innocent woman has being starving or was not eating in her father’s house before he came along and got married to her.
In fact, I have seen a situation whereby an evil housemaid conspired and gang-up with enemies around and manipulate the husband/boss to start misbehaving and chasing strange women outside his marriage, thereby reducing the ignorant wife to nothing as she becomes a victim of the circumstance and finally leading to the breaking of the marriage.
This is why it is very needful that every couple especially the wife to be observant and spiritually vigilant because she is usually the person that receives the unexpected shocks and attacks of the enemies using the housemaid. The Scripture admonishes us not to be ignorant of the devices/antics of the enemy (2 CORINTHIANS 2:11). Any strange behavior displayed by the housemaid should be checked and dealt with before it’s too late.
And if the wife can manage herself and cope without a housemaid, she should avoid them and save herself and home from all their headaches. Engage your children (as early as possible) with house chores they can handle while you wisely and gradually train them and build your home. Just know that whatever does not kill you makes you strong. You need to be strong for yourself and children by rising up to the challenges and emerge victorious or you can succumb to the antics of the enemies using the housemaid(s) and become a victim of the circumstances. THE CHOICE IS YOURS…SHALOM!!!
Those animals/priests need to be put in a 4×4 cell for life after being castrated. Rubbish. Of course the Pope who is the head of the conglomerate which is the Catholic church has been shielding and protecting the perverts by delaying since last year hoping the allegations will go away.
MuttleyLaff: I thoroughly enjoy nonstamp' video again, very satirically entertaining again.
Do you know what your problem is. You are so blinkered by the trees, so can't because of them see the woods, that is why you are so fixated on the impression that Jephthah barbecued his daughter and other Abraham Isaac God misgivings you have
MuttleyLaff: Jephthah never barbecued his daughter. Did not, in the first place nurse any plan to barbecue a human being even.
Logically there is no way Jephthah would have considered nursing barbecuing a human being. It defies any logic an Israelite would stand for. Besides that, it is crystal clear in Judges 11:31b what Jephthah planned to barbecue. Only the blind, deceiver and ignorant would not acknowledge or know this
Keep on doing this. You are doing a good job of the tail wagging the dog.
Christianity Etc › Re: Sexual Abuse In Catholic Church. by Dantedasz(m): 3:57pm On Feb 03, 2019
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