₦airaland Forum

PhysicsQED:
I can see a situation in which 28 out of the 36 states in Nigeria are dependent on say 7 or 8 other West African nations that have actually worked to meet their power needs and have energy left over and then the other 8 states are handled perfectly fine by the power Nigeria currently generates. To me this is the very definition of running away from one's problems and going backwards while those around you develop. If there is a problem, surmount it, don't pass the buck of responsibility to the take-care-of-everything parental government. The Germans, Chinese, Japanese, Argentinians, etc. are not superhuman or anything to be able to meet the energy needs of their many millions of people so I don't see why we can't put the effort into meeting our needs. I don't see Adamawa being the state to do that so maybe for that particular state just buying from a foreign government is necessary for them, but I would prefer different foreign companies in Nigeria supplying power over that and Nigerian companies in Nigeria even more so. But just becoming dependent on other countries does not seem like a solution to Nigeria's problem, even if it is an easy way out for Adamawa.

Until the federal gov't privatizes power generation, then there will not be good power supply nationally. Surely Adamawa shouldn't have to tackle a larger problem than it has to.

If the Nigerian government were to handle it, and Nigerians were to pay an energy bill to the government, we have to ask, how many people in Nigeria even pay taxes (heavy taxes, like Europeans) to even be able to fund the government's improvements in the quality of life, whether it is roads, health care, or electricity, and where would that money for taxes, energy bills, etc. even come from without the improvements in quality of life that would lead to massive increases in employment and productivity that would raise income levels? It seems like a Catch-22 so I would leave out the Nigerian federal government angle.

Yeah, the less the federal gov't does, the better. I'd prefer to see power privatized.

Sounds like some hate. Don't be mad at others for having good media games. Step up your own game instead.

^-- Who is making press announcements?

I don't care whether Yoruba rule Nigeria or not. I just want us to develop our region. Charity begins at home, as they say.

igbobuigbo:
Despite the hatred Yoruba may show for Obj, when he was in power those who gained most from him, unduly I must add, were his kinsmen. That is why most of those under the EFCC searchlight for corruption/irregularities that took place then are from the SW.

Err, what? I thought people before said that most of those under the EFCC spotlight were his enemies? So be consistent. You are saying those under the spotlight were Yoruba, guys he caused to get rich but also simultaneously sent the EFCC after?

igbobuigbo:
Ribadu recently proclaimed that Jonathan will not win the election, not because of PDP, but because he comes from a minority tribe. That tells you that he is not different from the north that you guys castigate, yet he is the one you expect the champion a SW agenda?

I guess this is the difference philosophically between you and I. If Ribadu gets into power and morphs into Atiku, that would be very bad. But for me, I'm not placing ALL my hopes on him as an individual for progress in Nigeria and in the SW especially. Good government at the state and local levels can counterract mischevious gov't at the national level.

This is why having a good state gov't is so very important. And this is why I view ACNs attempts to capture governorships all across the Southwest as more important than who they put out for presidency.

igbobuigbo:
ACN may well behave like PDP when/if they get there. Tinubu was gov of Lagos and things were not different in Lagos as in Kwara, for e.g.,  under him. Fasola is working because of himself, not because of ACN. Afterall, the same Tinubu head of ACN almost destabilized Fasola's govt recently.

Of what importance or relevance is that? ANY party that hypothetically managed to sweep through all of Nigeria could turn into a version of the PDP; one party states are inherently dangerous in this way.

Dunno why you are trying to make it out to be an ACN flaw specifically.

Also, why are we talking about these hypotheticals? While ACN remains a SW based opposition party, it is unlikely to be corrupt. In the highly unlikely event that it steamrolls the remaining parties, then I agree it will become corrupt.

igbobuigbo:
You see the north as the only corrupt and domineering ones, right? Yet Ribadu is a northerner. Sounds ironical

Err, think through your statement. If I believe that among group X, there is tendency Y, does that mean ALL members of group X have tendency Y? Obviously not.

igbobuigbo:
Sounds like the real, albeit covert, SW agenda. , one that will kaput with Ribadu as the president

Heh, you need to tell that Edo State, then. Or the people who have AC representatives outside of the SW.

In any case, I don't think Ribadu really has a real chance of winning. If he does and then completely shifts to become like the rest of the Northerners, then that would be quite surprising.

igbobuigbo:
Those are the hopes and aspirations of every other Nigerian. So why appropriate what is apparently a national agenda?

That isn't really the hope of all Nigerians, to be honest. For example, some are pro Sharia (which leads to unequal gov't, and imo a bad one.)

Also, while it may be the hope of many Nigerians it isn't necessarily the hope of Nigerian political parties (e.g., the PDP.)

If PDP truly believed in these worthy aspirations, there would be no need for the ACN. But it does not.

igbobuigbo:
Well if ACN comes to Rivers and other non-yoruba areas, it is no longer a regional party and will hence not be in any position to pursue  any regional agenda. If it takes over the fed govt, it means the Yoruba of ACN are no longer playing regional politics as ObJ wants. They have to remain regional  or they are as good as PDP, a federal party. An ACN under Tinubu as president with another SWner as VP is doomed because no Igbo or hausa will look at them more than once. If Ribadu becomes the president under ACN, it is still the North in charge, SW agenda kaput. Looks like the so-called SW agenda is flimsy and all-weather, no?

The SW agenda is a good economy, good government and fair elections. It isn't about Yoruba ethnic supremacy, or something. After all, if it were, then why is Benin ACN?

In any case, ACN in rivers/sokoto/kaduna will have a slightly different flavor than in the SW. That is absolutely fine, so long as we can maintain substantial  common interest.

igbobuigbo:
You will of course get your statutory allocation and that is about all. Other things people get by lobbying or by having someone in Abuja such as award of roads, electricity projects etc will be lost. Plus imagine a Nigeria in this 21st century with no Yoruba among the 6 highest positions as they used to be during Awo days.

That is fine. Hopefully electricity gets privatized, so we can negotiate directly with a private company for electricity and pay whatever it costs, rather than begging the federal gov't to do it. Otherwise we could also collaborate and provide electricity as a joint project among our states.

Roads we should probably build and fund ourselves anyway, say through some combination of loans, private investment, and tolls.

I don't care if any Yoruba are among the top 6 positions federally in Nigeria, so long as our region itself is economically sound. Hausa man has had lots of representation federally, but his region has nothing to show for it.

igbobuigbo:
Your is a no brainer; not when you are still a Yoruba. Who no like him mama soup, even if na water water soup?

Heh. I don't think it is that clearcut; I've thought about both sides and think regionalism is the way to go. As you say, regionalism might lose you national power and cause you to be in disfavor with the federal gov't. But to be quite frank, as long as we get whatever federal allocations are due to us, what else will we really be missing from the federal gov't?

What does the federal gov't provide to the SW that they will withold once the PDP is kicked out of the SW?

I'm in almost 100% agreement with Koruji. Solid analysis.

Nigerian politics is extremely entertaining, lol. Hard to believe he'd publicly mock Atiku like this

What did Dirk accomplish? Choked in 2007 and 2008 postseasons. How does a no defense big man compare to KG? KG gives you nearly as good offense, elite rebounding and elite defense.

Ain't no comparison between the two.

Prime KG >>>>> Prime Dirk

Hell, 2007-2008 KG will give prime Dirk a run for his money.

chic2pimp:
Can we all just admit that Dirk is the best PF of all time.

Kevin Garnett? Or Karl Malone? Or Barkley?

@PhysicsQED: So long as Adamawa's power is taken care of, why should those other issues be any of their concern? If this results in cheap and reliable power in Adamawa, then I don't see why they are under any obligation to find solutions that will also serve other states. That is the job of the federal gov't and those other states, not Adamawa.

bawomolo:
that's whatup, so you watch college ball.

what about football

I basically only started watching college ball today just due to my bets, lol. Usually prefer the NBA, but am sort of afraid to watch the NBA lest I catch the Heat playing poorly

Football, never played it as a kid, so don't really watch it. I'd like to get into it over christmas break though.

bawomolo:
especially when you chose to watch boston college? what were u thinking.

go watch some big ten or ACC team not named boston college ball.

Only watching cuz I had money on the game. I have CSU Northridge at +17.5 too, so watching that as well.

Took Boston College +7.5 against Texas A&M, looking pretty good so far. . .college ball is so boring to watch though

Abagworo:
Hausa/Fulani is not up to 5% of Adamawa.Many Nigerians are not aware that Adamawa,Taraba and Crossriver States hold 50% of ethnic groups in Nigeria.

What then is the demographics of Adamawa? I wasn't able to find any information online about it. They have a Fulani Emir though, do they not?

The hatred Nigerians have for themselves is quite sad. Nobody is forcing the Brazilians to come learn, they are choosing to do so themselves. Who is wiser, you who say Nigeria has nothing to teach them or they who want to come to learn from the 2nd largest movie industry in the entire world?

oyb:
eh?

I think Soludo did a good job as head of the CBN, personally. I think the bank merging progress really helped Nigeria, overall. Not sure that the problems the occured at the tail end should wholly be blamed on him. But just my opinion. . .

Crop rotation, fertilizers, mechanization and other modern farming techniques should help in making the land more productive.

A bit of a shame, though

These Fulani are quite impressive, I must say. Imagine, bending an entire other ethnic group (the Hausa), and a region of the country (the North) to your will.

Almost every time a "Northern" candidate is selected, it is a Fulani man. Yet the Northerners never complain that for some reason, only Fulani are fit to lead them. Quite amazing.

Quality over quantity, imo.

While the growth rate of Lagos is impressive, too much of the populace essentially dwells in slums. Something needs to be done to raise the status quo up a bit. I wish there were more jobs in Nigeria sef

I also wonder a bit about the nature of this population growth. Where is it coming from? I know that people all over West Africa move to Lagos, but it'd be nice if we understood the different components of the population growth a bit better.

Atiku is Fulani.

Why isn't there some sort of online dating site in Nigeria? It really shouldn't be that hard for people to find others. . .

Obo Boco:
NO, its not so similar, people only think that they are because Akwa Ibom was cut out of Cross River and we share boundary with them, we have a good knowledge of their culture and so do they have of our's but its different
it may surprise you to know that some of them actually hate the Efiks, and some of them actually claim to be Efiks  but i think its also common in other parts of Nigeria.
that is why my twin specified by saying please am not talking about Akwa Ibom/ Ibibio turn Efik oh
am talking about the proper Efik gentle men, regardless of where they live.
their way of life and culture is certainly not the same.

I see, didn't know the story was that complicated. Too much hatred in Nigeria anyway

I thought Adamawa was mostly Fulani Muslim? A bit surprised it is considered middle belt.