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Image123: What? As in, whaaaaaat? It is very normal for people to kill each other? And somebody said there is no devil. i rest my case.

Can you name any point in history where killing has been absent or uncommon.


Killing/murder is part of our humanity and as such normal.

[size=14pt]This man was once a minister!![/size]

lilbakar: [b]“The media is the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that’s power, because they control the minds of the masses.”

- Malcolm X

Yes, we know that.

But did the media and cameramen kill the innocent man??

ogugua88: [size=13pt] The Nigerian criminals I read of tend to be lazy good-for-nothings who want to get rich fast or use religion to make a silly point.

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could you please explain the religion aspect?

tbaba1234: First of all, this is an act of criminality and does not represent us.

As regards, stopping extremists, this , I am afraid is impossible with the US foreign policy. This is the fuel to the fire. It is the marketing tool. What a militant fails to do for years, one drone strike on a village will do for him in an instant. The iraqi war did more to build support for these groups than any action.

To say, ' Muslims are silent' is a cliche that is absolutely inaccurate.Mention a mainstream muslim speaker and you will find a write-up or video where he condemns terrorism.

To destroy support for these groups, we need to reduce the marketing materials they have.

True, there are more effective ways in dealing with foreign policies and it's manipulations, terrorism will never be the answer,and justifications will not either. Terrorism will further propagate the issues and give the oppressors legitimacy.

More exposure and education is the answer.

tunshe: What do you mean by "Children take religion more than an average person"?

A direction towards fundamentalism.

Funny enough, I had a debate a couple of weeks ago with some folks about the role of Parents when their children take on religion more than the average person.

They concluded that not much could be done by the Parents as obeying God is better than obeying parents.


I could not disagree more.

coogar: black mothers have a lot to answer for - they are the ones that can't wait to call the cops to get their husbands out of the house!

The is the greatest problem affecting the majority of black women in the western hemisphere. Apart from abusive situations, black women have abused the safe-guarding system in place and want to eat their cakes and have it.

The fathers are thrown out and women are left with raising boys into Men, a feat only 00.1% of woman have the capacity.

Inevitably, they raise kids that will rebel.

mazaje: you must be a witness to come up with such a statement, no?. . .Have you ever seen satan commanding any body to do anything?. . .

Imagine!!

Can you just imagine the boldness in acute delusion. lol

Its actually funny. Satan orders some boys, and our jester had the privilege to witness it!!

Wow!

Image123: From satan to God to comedy to Oyedepo. You need a friend.

No, I need you.

Never knew you were a comedian? You give me jokes.

Who needs friends when there is a jester around.

Still waiting on that memo which shows Satan's orders.

You were there right? I mean the meeting between Satan and the Boys!

And you are not??

Image123: You are assuming many things.

Image123: You may need to be specific. Like for instance, there is this story making the rounds about two men hacking a soldier to death in london. That is a collaboration. Satan inclined and he clearly ordered two of his own.

ha ha ha ha . lol

Joke of the Century. Tell me you do stand ups, if not, you need to change your occupation.

Comedy is your Forte.

Satan ordered the two, can you e-mail me the memo of that meeting? The collaboration, was Pastor Oyedepo there too?

Waiting for the memo.

What a Joke

Image123: You have very wild assumptions, you need to engage your imaginations in something more productive. Any more reasonable questions?

Lol, you need to engage your imagination in something more intuitive as well. Your delusional stories and assertions are just ridiculous.

Yes, I have more questions, But i'll start with this;

How do you know if a 'bad thing' that was committed is Satan inclined or Man inclined?

The world is being held on ransom.

Radical Islam can only be confronted by a simpler ideology, the wider Muslim must do more is disassociating itself from Islamic fundamentalism.


Its saddening because some Muslims don't like violence, but they need to speak up more because this cancerous elements will engulf all, including innocent Muslims.

Image123: i helped you amplify mans responsibility since you initially thought man was not responsible. What meetings do you refer to?

The meetings you chaired when Satan and Man collaborated!

The ones you delegated responsibilities to, since both seem to have choices on which bad things to do and whatnot.

I assume you were there when Satan and Man were deciding who should be responsible.

Image123: You are getting it little by little. See how your assumptions have been deceiving you all this while. Man is responsible for some bad things and Satan is responsible for some too. Good of you. When a man decides not to prepare for tomorrow, or take his projects seriously, he is responsible for his failure. The person who fails to plan is planning to fail. When a man does not look before he leaps, the evil that befalls is due to his carelessness, not devil. The pain he will cause his family and friends to go through, the poverty he might inflict on his children if he loses his job is caused by him, not the devil. When a man is careless with what he eats and poisons himself, it is not the devil, it is him. The debt incurred from hospital/medical expenditure is his fault, not the devil. Sometimes, man can collaborate with the devil to perpetuate evil. Many times, the devil can even force man(like you) to do what he wants. Other times, he will trick you to taking the evil decision. He can make you create chaos, break bottles and tear shirts. He can make you spoil anotherr person's life with your wickedness. You and the devil will both have to answer for your evil works on the day of judgement. Don't think you will be absolved, don't let the devil deceive you again that he is the only one doing evil.

My Goodness!!

Please tell me you read your post properly before posting it. Man and Satan are both responsible, right? Man is responsible in some cases and in otherS Satan 'tricks' Man,right? And to add to the delusion, 'sometimes man collaborate with the Devil'.

Did you attend all the meetings and collaborations?

Please tell me you were at all the meetings? lol

This is just plain pathetic.

This will hike up an building projects.

An industry that is getting more lucrative and more expensive.

Longer time for projects to get actualised and more excuses from contractors.

From_Guiriga: Very articulate, very eloquent,

[size=15pt]mostly bullshyt[/size].

Corrected.

FBS: By the way, congratulations to everyone on here. Season wasn't too bad or was it?

We play man shaity twice in 3-4 days. What is that all about?

Brand Awareness, I guess.

hisblud:

Why not include your brother's insult in your post. You delibrately ignore his insensitive posts towards me and post mine.

Tell me, is that being objective? At least be fair in your assessments.

Image123: eureka! Seems the light shone? At least, now you're saying what i said, not what i didn't say. You are learning, you are making progress. Many times, man is responsible for other bad things.

I'm sure you were pleased with yourself after writing the nonsense above.

Man is responsible for some bad things and Satan is responsible for some too, right?

Ok, how do you decipher who is responsible for a particular 'bad thing' when it happens? Do you sit with Satan in his Boardroom to know which 'bad thing' he is involved in or which one he should participate in?

'Man is responsible for other bad things' says the telepathic magician that has the intricate knowledge of all that goes on in every Man's mind.

And since you are adept in this knowledge, who is responsible for the islamic bombings around the world, Man or Satan?


I'm certain of this though, you either feed this garbage to people or you gobble it up when told.

Image123: You are close to that ignore button, don't push it. The statement 'satan is not NECESSARILY responsible for EVERY bad thing' is different from 'satan is not responsible for evil'. Feel free to meditate until you break through this challenge.

More obfuscation, my last post did not challenge the difference, it only states that you 'enlighten' me as to what you meant by your statement.

Your elusiveness is pathetic. You revel on trivial issues so as to avoid answering legitimate questions.

Answer my question or simply ignore it.

'Satan is not necessarily responsible for every bad thing',

So who is responsible for the other bad things satan is not responsible for?

Image123: You need to learn basic comprehension if you think that i said satan is not responsible for evil. Your other post was incoherent.I'll be surprised to see anyone else respond to it.

The post was directed to you, I don't care if 'anyone else' responds to it.

Basic comprehension? Ok.

Can you please enlighten me as to what you mean by your statement:

'satan is not necessarily responsible for every bad thing'

For once can you be straight-forward and stop acting like fraudulent charlatans that manipulates everything!

Image123: This is incoherent. i sincerely hope you were not personally affected?

Yea, you wish.

Explain to me how that is incoherent? That you choose not to understand my simple example is your problem. I referred to the Jargon in you post. If Satan is not responsible for evil, who is? Me?

Image123: You stand the grave risk of being ignored, and the possible risk of being banned.

Glad to see I'm being ignored.

I guess we both risk being banned as I feel we have both being uncivil. The only difference is that I have been upfront and straight-forward with my approach.

Image123: Spirits have spirit-form, huh. It's a different realm, the spirit realm. Its akin to asking the shape of sound, or the form of love, happiness, the length of pity or fear. These things are invisible but are real.i know the devil exists because the bible says he does and describes him and his works. i know gases 'exist'. Not everybody can show that, though it can be shown. There are more than a billion people in the world who are oblivious to the fact that they exhale co2. It doesn't change the fact. I know ions exist, i know bacteria exist, i know hate exists. We can clearly see the effect of these things that are not readily visible to the eyes except through medium. satan is not necessarily responsible for every bad thing.Now, how can president Jonathan be said to construct a road in enugu while he was in abuja during the construction? This people who claim to think hardly think when it comes to religious issues.

You really need to shut the hell up with your pathetic attempt in trying to sound reasonable.

If Satan is not responsible for every bad thing then I'm guessing he chooses the evil he wants to participate in, right?

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Satan to God: I feel like using tornadoes on the people in Florida, but I'm a bit tired do you want the Job?
God: Nah, dude I'm Tired, let the humans handle it

Bloody wimp!

Image123: Atheism should not erode your civility and sanity, stop calling me names. Now, why do you have two hands(if you do)?

Theism should not make you a wimp! I'll call you whatever I want as you feel convenient to insult people when it suits you but play victim when given the same treatment. Go back to our previous encounter and point out the person who started being uncivil you pathetic coward!

So this is what Malouda has been doing since...........

mazaje: They just keep making seertions wihout knowing what they are talking about. . .satan this , satan that . . .PLEASE can any body here descrie how satan looks like to me. . .Any body here to describe his features and looks please. . .Any why must satan remain invisible when some people already believe he exist?

Lets just accept the excuse about God not revealing himself/herself/itself for a minute.

What about the devil? What's his excuse?

He revolted already and he does not give a f, why complete his defiance and reveal himself?

Image123: Big grammar doesn't fit you, keep it simple please. Also, i said 'invisible', not 'invincible'. I'm not interested in your question and answer sessions, interested in minds that still have capacity for learning and sincerity.

Ok Grammer troll, once again do not obfuscate, lets stick to the subject.

You can't attest to what you have no idea about. 'Spirits are invisible', yet you have no idea how or why!

Do not make assertive statements if you can not back it up. This is not a church congregation where you are fed nonsense without being respected enough to inspect properly.

Perhaps you need to broaden you own capacity to learn and,at the very least, be sincere enough to admit you know nothing about your 'spirits' that are invisible.

collynzo2: People giving birth to children they can't cater for is our biggest problem in this country

Religion and corruption beg to differ.

Image123: no. Unfortunately, you have not dared to think outside the box you shackled yourself in. You've even deliberately avoided and cut the part of my post that can spur and free your thinking.

I chose the part relavant to the question I asked!

You will not kung foo your way out of this!!
You have not seen spirits, you have not bothered to explain 'why' they are invincible, yet you want to have me believe in them!


Perhaps you need to do the thinking outside the bondage you entrapped yourself in.

Why are your spirits invincible? what is the purpose of their invincibility?

Answer those and stop obfuscating about.