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tbaba1234: Did the muslims leave to go pray??

What are they doing in a JB concert anyway??

Is it wrong for Muslims to listen to bieber's music?

sholatech: I do business in both Lagos and Jos and thus live there. Jos city is more peaceful of the two, most of the so called security challenges you hear of in the past 3 years as "jos" happens well outside jos(Plateau State). Its like avoiding working in VI because there are attacks in Badagry.

Also, cost of living is cheaper in Jos. and hey, the retail size of Plateau State is also huge. Im sure the Multinational FMCG knows how much sales they generate in a month there. the figures ive seen are sure impressive

A very simple scenario!!

One day you decide to go to Badagry with your colleagues for an outing at that superb 'Suya Joint' they have been inundating you about.20 min later you smell the strange smell of burnt flesh but you assume that it is the suya meat burning.

Unbeknownst to everyone at the joint, a Muslim youth had just been murdered and Badagry is slowly becoming a war zone. Alas the funny smell you thought was Suya is the burning flesh of the victims of reprisal attacks from the Muslim youths.

Sweat trickle down your spine at the thought of been turn into the very Suya you are now finding hard to swallow. You are now paralysed with fear, this is not your town. Where do you run to? you look right and left and notice that your work colleagues and the Suya man have all evaporated.

You are stuck, you are Bleep..ED

Then suddenly, you have an epiphany!

Why the f.uck did you take the job.

Next second, you are now a suya meat.

bolaino: lol, I knew someone was gon pick up on the "fact", lol, and it so happened to be you.

If I lie, tell me say I lie now.

You cant be throwing up words like that in this discourse if you cant back it up.

We will all die someday = Fact
The plane has the ability to fly = Fact
NO society is perfect = Fact

These are all provable statements.

Juju exists =Facts..?

I ask a simple question and you resort to abuse!

How does that help your argument?

Can you prove to me that scientists rely on the bible?

Can you name such scientists and the journals in which their research has been based on the bible?

bolaino: and I hope that one day my frEethinking brethren would come to acknowledge that fact,

Of course it is everyone's right to believe what they want to believe, but the premise of this debate is summed up in your statement in the above.

Stop saying something is a 'fact' if you cannot prove it.

Proffdada: Scientists up to this very day of information age still rely on the Bible

Rely on the bible for what precisely?

Could you expatiate?

ITbomb: Business minds always stressed on the importance of creating awareness for your brand and product to be successful but I keep wondering how these ones succeeded without adverts.

The companies probably make their sales targets anyway. Perhaps they feel it would not be cost effective spending money towards the marketing line.

FOLYKAZE: @ dare2think

You will come here again to tell us the video is edited. Come yourself and witness this.

Cheap escapism!

The video that I said is edited has still not been explained so what are u on about!

Why not debunk the 'edited' claim first! Or can you explain on his behalf?

@emusan
Can you please watch the video and honestly tell me 1.56-1.57 is perfectly ok.

Honesty is a value we should all ascribe to regardless of our affiliation.

Did any of you even consider reading my own version on why I feel the bird fell and debunked the theory?

Purist,

Why are you prolonging issues, let this dude test his magic on a chicken and upload it tomorrow.

That can't be too difficult

Toluwarni: Wait! If it works, if he proves to you that supernatural realm really exists, what then will you do Convert to theism?

I will swallow my pride, and follow whatever religion and practice that he does.


Oya, convince him.

Toluwarni: He gave you options he's sure will work, and you're giving him another option Pick one of those things he gave you

Dear Toluwarni,

I can't work by his option as I have a life outside this forum and I make it to where he his. Hence the reason I gave my own options.

Besides, I have suggested a more practical option.

Get A fowl.

Get a camera phone

Use your supernatural power

Upload it here tomorrow.

That should'nt be too hard!

FOLYKAZE: If you want video, then wait for it. Your answers are therein

Untill then, can you buy a fowl and experiment it for all to see?

A fowl should not be that expensive and I assume you have a camera phone.


Let start with that.

Toluwarni: You're scared of discovering the fact, that you could be wrong.. Folykaze is daring you, Pick a dare... Or are you scared??

'Dare'!! are we in a kindergarten school.

So the supernatural now works with proximity, one has to be around to it to work.

You want a dare?

Ok, I dare him to use his charm, juju and all that nonsense to make me have paralysis so I am unable to type over the next few days.

You wanted a dare, that's my dare!!

FOLYKAZE: I have not shoot a gun once. But dare me with others pls. Are you in Nigeria? You can make option and just let it happen

I'll wait for the video.

So you have done the rest except shooting?

The magun and all?

Lord Babs: Wonders happen. They're real. Seeing is convincing. But the term 'supernaturalism' merely exists in the mind and not within the boundary of mother nature. Any wonders happening within the boundary of nature are understandably governed by the laws of nature. [b]That something is not obvious or explainable doesn't make such thing super-natura[/b]l. Is energy obvious? That hurricane isn't an obvious occurrence in Africa doesn't make hurricane a supernatural thing. It'd be extraterritorially insane to suggest that the supernatural exists within the boundaries of nature(what is natural). Hence, all that we can see(explainable or inexplainable), in terms of wonders are nothing but natural wonders(i.e.the wonders of nature), while we have in mind that these wonders are commandeered by the governing laws of nature!

A lot of things were deemeed supernatural in the stone ages only to be refuted in modern times. Several examples all arounds the world.

We used to kill twins in some parts of Nigeria because they were deemed evil.
England used to burn witches and were convinced they could fly.

The fact that you cannot find explanation to something does not elevate it to the supernatural context.

Toluwarni: My tone isnt rude, you're just misunderstanding me

Perhaps.

FOLYKAZE: OR I WILL GIVE YOU THE OPTION OF MAGUN. I dont know what you people call it in English, I will give you tight gal (olosho), I will set the product on her myself and you go in with her. You are allowed to use condom or any s.ex style. You will know what the result will be. So as not to die, you will drink the gal urine. You can bet on this.

And if you are married, I will give the option of hit and fall. I promise to get 20 litre of water which you will drink cuz that will be the only remedy.

Or the option of stopping your car engine from working. You can drive it down. I promise it wont move an inch unless dragged away from the scene.

Pick up any challenge you got there. South-west is big but can still make it anywhere therein.

Have you done all the above before?

Toluwarni: It flew in during the service dude, isn't it obvious?? don't know if the bird was evil or not, believe me, it was the chanting and praying that brought that bird down... You know what, you guys are confused, you don't know what you believe, you want to believe this, and you want to believe that, since you're so sure there's nothing supernatural in this world, why then are you looking for people to prove you wrong tell me, you dont believe in God, cos you've never experienced any of these things, fine, its your choice and i respect you for that... But the fact is that's plain IGNORANCE... I believe in the supernatural because, i've seen and experienced it before... I've had first hand experiences.. which i don't think i can discuss here..

Again, you do not need to get irate over simple questions, except if your convictions are not as strong as you profess, else there is no need for unwarranted venting especially as I'm dealing with you in a cordial manner.

Secondly, How am I to know the bird flew in? do I have 'supernatural powers'? Did the video show that?

You don't know if the bird is evil or not but the prayers and chantings brought it down!! And you have the nerve to call people confused!!

I don't think it is healthy for a society to be subject to downright foolishness and those that sees the foolishness should keep quiet.

Explain what happened in the video in a split second from 1.56-1.57 when you are free.

Toluwarni: the recording was paused in other to save memory... Cant you see?? After the owl passed out, the next scene was the burning scene

I was not referring to that moment.

I am referring to 1.56-1.57 in the video. Was that stopped to save memory?

And since you were present at the event, did the bird fly in during the service or was the bird already in the church ?

I just want to know how everyone in the church reached the conclusion that the bird is evil!

Toluwarni: like i said before, you'll provide a twist to any video i put on here on spiritual happenings.. what if i told you i was there live what are you gonna say eh? the fact is, you've got this mindset not to believe in any thing spiritual, even if Jesus comes down, i don't think you'll believe, I'm done trying to convince you reetards... There's nothing i'll say that will change you.

Your dont have to be aggressive!! It's really unecessary and deflective.

It's a legitimate 'twist'. If you were there then you are in a better position to tell us why the video is edited.

Can a bird land on a red carpet and the next second be on a concrete floor?

You tell me.

Purist: I'm beginning to tire out. Since this thread hit the front page, it's been really difficult keeping up with the numerous nonsense flying in left, right and centre. I really hope that some people here have learned one or two things from our posts explaining those things they think are voodoo. I leave the rest to you guys now: jayriginal, dare2think, mazaje, musKeeto et al.

I'll continue to monitor this thread and chip in when I think my input is required. Cheers.

lol. I'm tired myself.

The internet and social media is out there for all, yet so much stupidity beyond comprehension.

Everybody should possess the right to believe what they want.

Toluwarni:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRkgTlsRLGY

Firstly, I would like to address the authenticity of the video you posted. I watched it carefully and analysed it several times. The production of the video is highly suspect especially between 1.56- 1.57. The bird landed on the red carpet and the next second its on the concrete floor. Can you explain.


Secondly, here is my own explanation of what may have caused the bird to 'fall'


http://www.avianweb.com/seizures.html
http://www.mickaboo.com/newsletter/jan12/art6.2.html


'Stress: Some birds (particularly budgies) are susceptible to "stress seizures" - also referred to as " cardiac racing syndrome" - and most of the time, they will come right out of it once they calm down. For birds that easily stress out, a stress-free environment should be created as much as possible, before any major change, some homeopathic remedy (like the Rescue Remedy for Pets) might be indicated to help a pet deal with stresses.'

Emusan: Why are you exagerate just to support your claim?

Where did airplane crew throw the man out? Because airplane windows are unlike car's windows. Even if the one you entered has lock & hinge for closing & opening not at the mid-air we all know that.

Oh, now I am the one exaggerating! Suddenly you are able to apply reason to my story even when you were not there but I cannot apply the same reason to other ridiculous stories.

lekkie073: Poor English composition. What fact? State 'them'. I can't state them, I can only state it which I have did.... R u a learner?

My Bad, I had no Idea we are studying English. Judging from your post I contend you are in no position to lecture anyone.

lekkie073: Our juju actually failed which buttresses my proposition that not all supernatural forces have an advantage over the natural.... The whites brought bombs and canons which our priests' supernatural powers could not withstand. QED!
And this doesn't take away d fact dat our herbalists have supernatural capabilities

Really?

What fact? state them.

musKeeto: At this point, I can gladly unfollow...

Thanks guys..

@d2t: how you dey?

I'm good dude. I see you are unrepentant in your effort in helping people see reason.
I gave up a while ago, but sometimes you just get drawn back in.

mazaje: Just hope that you know, one of the MAIN rerasons we are christians and muslims today and threw away our traditional religion and beliefs was because the white people were able to show us that our juju beliefs were all useless and impotent, they showed it to our ancestors live. . .They went into the evil forest the people were afraid of going into, destroyed the shrines, killed some of the most respected and powerful priest, demonized our beliefs and religions, took all the gods, there are many gods or symbol of gods laying in the british mesuem as we speak, symbols of revered gods people used to think were so powerful. The whites came enslaved many, banished many , destroyed many shrines, took away the gods as relics and forced the people against their wish to convert to christianity. . .

One would have thought that the above alone would make sense to our JujU Proponents.

*We are all speaking and writing in 'English' today because our juju failed to protect us from foriegn Invaders*

U

true2god: Im shocked hearing pple say dey dont believe in the power or the existence of the supernatural. Supernatural power is as common as water, pple may chose not to believe.

If u dnt believe in the power of the supernatural, visit igbo-ogunu juction at somolu, in lagos state nigeria by 1am on tuesdays, ur life will never remain the same. Or visit any cemetary at night, if u can, and witness stunts for ursef.

99% percent of natural\spiritual occurence can never be explained by science, and wat science cant explain they term it 'tricks'. Our African believe system alone testify to the power of the supernatural, thats y we have herbalists, native doctors, traditional priests etc, long before the europeans come to Africa.

Supernatural powers is very real, i have seen many.

Where was our supernatural powers when the white man came with real guns and bombs to take away our ancestors?

Where were our juju men and herbalist when they stayed there till 1960.

Where are this supernatural powers when you need them the most. I.e prevent accidents, floods and all other disasters.

Suddenly they are real when it come to stupid things like dodging bullets or turning people to goats. (All of which are exclusive to certain people's eyes only)

All these super stories with no evidence.

Can all our witnesses tell our beloved supernatural people to give our country electricity.

Surely that can't be too difficult, or better still can they aid our security officials in fighting boko haram.

Something useful rather than mundane nonsense that serves no purpose other than instilling fear.

Iykesmooth: Its rili so disgusting when people say supernatural things or magic do not exist? Are u on dis planet or wat? When i started believing was when i entered a bus and d conductor was collecting money and he asked a man 2 pay, the man said he hed no money then d conductor got mad and threatened 2 deal with him...... Wen d man got 2 his bus stop d conductor held his shirt and said he must pay!! D man asked d conductor 2 let go but he refused ... All he did was say a few incantations and touched d conductor , d conductor just started crawling on d floor and acting like a mad man... Everyone in d bus was scared!! Me included.... D driver and d few brave ones had 2 beg him b4 he made d conductor back 2 normal.... Dis was 2years ago... So u pple saying magic dosent exist should shut d Bleep up!!!

Lol, why the agro!!!

2 years ago I was on a plane, someone refused to keep quiet and the cabin crew threw him out of the plane mid air. When we landed guess what? (No parachute)

We saw the same person waiting at the airport.!!

Prove your story and I will prove mine!

Toluwarni: All these Atheists dey argue mumu argument, I witnessed a guys joystick disappear in 2008 just because he picked N500... I was there life.. So abeg, na magic be that I've seen things, I've heard testimonies from close relatives... Well, There's nothing we theists can say that will convince you Muzzcunts.. Believe or Not.. Its your choice

In 2008, and no one was there to put it in video. But a girl getting harrassed on the street can find its way on the Internet.

Yesterday, I saw a snake fly. ( Na your problem if you no believe)

Orikinla: There are supernatural realities.
Whether atheists and scientists believe or not should not bother you.
Faith is not by force.

My mother and my father of blessed memory saw mermaids, but I am yet to see one. And they never lied to me.
A German blonde came into my life in 1992 after I drew myself welcoming a white blonde with open arms. And we understood each other perfectly.

I was psychic and I had to go for deliverance in 1998 to stop it, because it was scary to be seeing things before they happen.

I asked God to send me divine helpers and He has sent me total strangers I have never known or met before and they do favour me abundantly. And the most important thing is they are helping me to create jobs for jobless Nigerians, including the jobless atheists on Nairaland.

Within four years I have started things from the ideas God gave me and these things have become bigger and larger than anything anyone has ever done in the Nigerian film industry and one of them is in fact going to be bigger and larger than Silverbird Cinemas.
God dropped another idea and it is already flying internationally.
So, who is talking?

My grandma also told me she saw people fly.

That woman would never lie to me. God has also given me ideas that would surpass bill gate's

I am talking. So lets see who God like pass