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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 10:44am On Jul 20, 2019
safarigirl:
you don't know how England works

Read on the policy of assimilation and indirect rules

It is easier for a Malian to travel to France than for Ghanaian to travel to England. You dey here dey talk political posts.

Dele Alli that they will soon throw away for Madison?

You don't know England if you think they are fair to immigrants above their own. An immigrant is held to three times as high a standard as their own, it is not the same in France.
Wrong

It is the same everywhere. The implicit bias in applying the rule of law to African immigrants and traditional French. Even in Job placements, the African has to show that he is 3x as good to get it. I read books and even watched a documentary about the subject.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 9:57am On Jul 20, 2019
jihday:
Now confirmed
I'm so happy.

On to the next one.

Good but too inconsistent
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 9:56am On Jul 20, 2019
cc12:
Leave the listed height thing, Kanu Nwankwo is even taller than Alampasu
Have you seen alampasu and KANU stand together?

Or Uzoho and alampasu? I doubt you have
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 9:54am On Jul 20, 2019
safarigirl:
I beg to disagree

The scenarios are different and it has a lot to do with the method of colonialism. The average Francophone African is more welcomed in France than an Anglophone African is welcomed in England.

English system will ALWAYS put their own above any outsiders in everything, irrespective of how great the player is. Do you think 29-year old Nzonzi would have ever played for the English National team at his age? England would rather take a bang average 32-year old PURE English man, than an Nzonzi to the World Cup, no matter how good he is.

England and France are not the same thing as far as players are concerned, and there are some great English players of African descent that will never get to play for England, because of that bias England has.
Wrong.

I believe more Africans hold political posts in England than Africans do in France.

If you're good enough, you'll be chosen. E.g. Dele Ali. The other Nigerians weren't chosen because there were better English players in their position. Would Iwobi at his current level bench Dele? Would Vic Moses bench Trent Arnold or kyle walker? Would Nedum onuoha have benched Micah Richards, John terry or Rio Ferdinand? Plain NO
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 1:56am On Jul 20, 2019
Jarus:
I support his quitting now. Ovation is loudest. Better to be begged to stay (and he refuses) than to be disgraced out of the team. We have short memory in Nigeria. If he goes 3 matches without scoring now, we will forget his 12 goals in one year and start calling for his head.

Even at club level, he will stop getting suitors in the next 2 years and will find himself playing 10-12 games a season in Qatar.
Good points
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 1:20am On Jul 20, 2019
andrew444:
See let me tell you and this is it

All France born African players always wanted to play for France only the average ones that's have seen they can't make the French team choose to play for an African team

If mbappe pogba are average they will be playing for Cameroon and guinea ,dem no dey tell mad man say wat don start

Nzonzi had to wait till 29 years old to make French team and ended up as World Cup winner if nzonzi wasn't good he should be playing for dr Congo

If ngolo Kante was not superb in the Epl he will be playing for Mali

Paul pogba brothers are crappy players that's why they played for guinea ,they are not even making the squad anymore because they are not good enough

But I wonder what made kondogbia later switched to play for Central African Republic after 5 caps for France

Na the one I know I talk sha
You hit the nail on the head.

Its the same with Nigerian players born in England and elsewhere.

A good enough player would be more driven towards the European Super-power than the Average African Team. Its just human nature. We are naturally drawn to excellence and success and want to identify with such
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 1:17am On Jul 20, 2019
BascoVanVeli:
Yea I remember that discussion grin My opinion is that he should stay because leading the line for Nigeria as I have said is a thankless job and it takes time to be able to figure it out. The problem is we don't have such time and we need Ighalo to continue doing his thing while the others develope.
Ighalo should retire. It is a step in the right direction for him and more importantly for the Super Eagles.

We depended on Mikel for too long until age caught up with him while we failed to develop talents in the creative midfield department.

Should Ighalo remain, I forsee the same thing happening to the no 9 position.

I am banking on the newer talents like Osimhen, Odey et al to step up their game and ensure we don't miss Ighalo.

NB: I am not an Ighalo hater oooo. The guy really tried for us and has paid his dues. But all parties must come to an end. Good luck to him in his future endeavours
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 12:21am On Jul 20, 2019
BascoVanVeli:
Funny thing is 6 foot is a pretty average height in the states but here in Naija we are considered giants grin
Average male height in the states is 5ft 9

People from the netherlands have the highest average height

https://www.healthline.com/health/average-height-for-men#how-to-measure

https://www.verywellfit.com/average-height-for-a-man-statistics-2632137
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 12:16am On Jul 20, 2019
cc12:
Uzoho is 6'5 and he is taller than Alampasu
Alampasu is listed at around the same height.

1.98m equivalent to 6ft 5.9inches

So, they are slightly similar in height
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 12:12am On Jul 20, 2019
Sainty92:
This one Mikel and Ighalo has announced their retirements, we are waiting for Ogu, Ezenwa and Akpeyi to do likewise
If them like, make them no announce retirement

According to a news that was posted earlier, Rohr would most likely include them in future squad lists.

Including Balogun but getting regular playing time may help his cause
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 12:10am On Jul 20, 2019
Triniti:
That Senegalese no 9 is the worst striker I have ever seen. How did that guy get to play football professionally?
He was kinda good at youth level with France but fizzled out when he stepped up

Just like Yaya Sanogo
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 10:08pm On Jul 19, 2019
mank1234:
They didn't play much because it's a final and they were a goal up already. You have to play safe especially against a top team like Senegal.

They were the most consistent of all the 24teams. They defeated Senegal twice in this tournament. What can be more convincing than that?
Gbam

The same way Klopp played against Tottenham in the UCL finak

They simply tried to protect their lead. Simple
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 10:07pm On Jul 19, 2019
So Algeria won the tourney.

Good for them. They did quite well till the final.

And kudos to their coach, the turnaround of the team almost overnight is quite impressive. Hope Rohr can learn a thing or two from this
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 4:49pm On Jul 19, 2019
Imagine some people ooo

In 175 appearances, Ramon managed just 10 goals and 4 assists playing mostly for lower tier teams

And they want him in the Super Eagles

shocked
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 4:44pm On Jul 19, 2019
andrew444:
Am not supposed to even mention Thiago Silva and co talkless of Cr7

[b]If you are playing in week in week out [/b]then you can be invited irrespective of your age

Some are suggesting balogun career should be over ,I will only agree if he continues to warm the bench at Brighton ,but if he get game time I will not agree
If you are playing week in week out like you rightly stated yet your performances aren't good enough, then you don't merit the Super Eagles

Do you know how many regulars we have in the NPFL that weren't invited to the national team. It because they are not good enough simple
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 4:41pm On Jul 19, 2019
somehow:
I don't know what is wrong with you and Andrew44 though. I don't mean it in a bad way.

The names you people keep mentioning have been known to be great players from the youth right to this minute.

These are players that have been consistent for more than 10 years, always playing anywhere they find themselves. leave from big clubs to big clubs.

Can these be said of our own old legs?

Maybe we should keep Mikel, Ogu, Joel Obi, Akpeyi, Ezenwa then just because some just cant see the name of Balogun on the list of old legs that should leave.

We have alot of good young defenders that needs space to play but we don't want to make way for them, using wrong comparison as excuses.

Which of our old legs are consistent or can make the first team of all the names you mentioned?
Gbam

It will be wrong to compare our average players with World class players who are not even consistent

Age or not some players are just too good to ignore while other are poor/average even from youth
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 4:39pm On Jul 19, 2019
andrew444:
You know better than this ,how can you judge a player by saying he is too short to win headers ,is that what football is all about ?

And mind you am not a fan of ajagun and I feel the players in super eagles that was invited are better than him

But for you to judge player by height you no try at all ,should I list short players that plays in the midfield ,I will not even list the popular ones ,but Matthieu valbuena says hello ,and this is a player with more than 50 appearance for France .

An average player will never win 50 caps for France
I said his height MAY be a liability.

But you may be right
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 2:17pm On Jul 19, 2019
forgiveness:
What club did Etebor, Ogu, Nwakali brothers etc played for before they got their first invitation to the national team?

Please, find another excuse because Silva, Xavi etc are all shortess but it didn't stop them from playing good football.
I asked that question not to challenge you but to get the info.

See, I wouldn't argue this with you any further. I don't have the strength for it. I am not theGoodjoe
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 2:12pm On Jul 19, 2019
I just saw Ajagun's stats.

He isn't even better than what we have now.

Playing for a lowly rated league and having such average stats yet someone is clamouring for his inclusion huh
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 2:09pm On Jul 19, 2019
forgiveness:
Fear wetin? Those calling Nwakali brothers should fear God.

If Ajagun plays and performs in the Belgium Pro League, I will still mention him here.

This is Nigeria national team and he is eligible and qualified for selection.
Please, what club does Ajagun play for now?

I think the reason Rohr has been overlooking him is because of his height. For a CM, he is too short at 168cm and may be a liability in Goal kicks as he won't win headers
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 2:08pm On Jul 19, 2019
forgiveness:
Why should he join Roma?

Is any Nigerian player in a bigger club bigger than Sharktar Donetsk currently save Iwobi?
But you made it seem like the coach took him along
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 2:06pm On Jul 19, 2019
TheSuperNerd:
Yes Mostob. He surely is although by a few inches. Alampasu is our tallest goalie at the moment.
At 198cm, he may be one of the tallest in Europe
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 2:03pm On Jul 19, 2019
ChrisKels:
L'equipe reporting that Charleroi have accepted a
bid of 15 million euros from Lille for Nigerian
international striker, Victor Osimhen.
Food one.

Osimhen, go there and do the.needful
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 2:02pm On Jul 19, 2019
jihday:
Star Boy
I hope its not that ancestor Ikouwem Utin they are calling the future huh
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 2:00pm On Jul 19, 2019
ChrisKels:
He is a wing forward not an out and out striker
Aiit. Thanks
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 1:59pm On Jul 19, 2019
ChrisKels:
The Head of Department of the faculty of carpentry, University of Eagles, Nigeria, high chief carpenter Mikel Agu finally leaves Porto permanently for lowly Vitoria D' Guimares grin
This is another player that passes the ball to opponents.

Chai, the Super Eagles have fallen for people like this to even be considered.

Very painful angry
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 1:58pm On Jul 19, 2019
BascoVanVeli:
He is not I have seen both with my eyes and Dele is barely taller than me at 6'3
Yes. According to transfermarkt

But you know this people may make mistakes sometimes
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 1:56pm On Jul 19, 2019
forgiveness:
Hehehehehehe! Wetin Tammy do you na? grin

Don't forget Olanrewaju Kayode. His coach has joined Roma.
But did he join Roma with the coach huh

Hian
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 1:56pm On Jul 19, 2019
andrew444:
Yes and it certain to happen
Were they promoted?

If not, then what division are they?

Too much championship guys in a national team that wants to compete with the best may not be such a good idea
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 1:54pm On Jul 19, 2019
ChrisKels:
Yea man, I am still waiting on Awoniyi.

Here are the boys I am looking up to, come next season.

*Osimhen of Lille

*Back to form Iheanacho

*Awoniyi if he joins a top league and replicates his Mouscron form

*Fit and on form Maja of Bordeaux

*Onuachu if he joins a top league and never lets up


Others are Odey and maybe a serious and injury free Success.


Outsiders; Tammy grin
What of Okereke of brugge?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 1:50pm On Jul 19, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Not been negative but not giving sentiment a room. Kelechi nwakali needs to sort his clubs issues out first and make a name for himself in Europe even if it's a backwater league for him to bounce back to reckoning. For now the boy no dey my list of players to replace mikel let alone John ogu
Gbam

You see why I say some people are living on past glory.

They will even prefer people in Morocco division 2 to replace Mikel

huh
Politics › Re: Go Back To Fix Your Wretched Communities: If So Smart And Rich by darkelf: 1:43pm On Jul 19, 2019
skywalker240:
i weep for the Nigerian Youth cos the Nigerian youth today are total failure, [b]just imagine some so educated idiots on this forum spilling rubbish from that phallus of an anus they call mouth during the election. [/b]Some said why cant he contest for councilor or LGA chairman first? Some said he is inexperienced in political affairs, and yet the experienced old idiots keeps ripping them apart.

if there is a word called 'LOST', it should be used to classify the youths in this country.

even when another messiah comes again, these stupid youths would still abandon him for any of the old fools.

Fela said 'SUFFERING & SMILLING' What else do you want me to say.
Kettle calling pot black.

Challenge with facts and not insults.

People like you will cause strife and division if given rule over a local govt.

Learn to challenge notions intelligently. Wars are started with wrong words Mr

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