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Guys do u knw why pep is rated so highly cause he goes for control-chaos football. so in the 4-3-3 he used at barca 5 players would be used to control a match, and 5 would be used to cause chaos .. usually like
this..
chaos- ctrl – ctrl – chaos
———— ctrl
——- ctrl —- ctrl
-chaos – chaos – chaos
usually this would mean dani alves, messi, villa, pedro, sanchez, jordia lba etc can express themselves and absolutely blow the opposition away whilst the likes of busquets, iniesta, xavi, pique would control the play and keep the opposition quiet. for us, everyone is controlled. everyone has orders from the coach, everyone has to control passing and it is sooooo boring. effectively making the whole team robots. and as i said before, we could have ronaldo, messi, suarez etc all starting for us, we would still do the same thing cause they HAVE to fit into this philosophy. infact, and im seriously not sticking up for this player, but di maria is the only player under LVG i have seen really express himself and try to cause some kind of chaos .. what happened to him, he got sold within a season and was dropped continuously with the manager stating ‘if a player dosnt buy into the philosophy then he is not needed’ how about look at the players around you, see their qualities and strongest attributes and put them into a system to get the best out of them. its what SAF did

Mata, Herreira are allowed to have 1
bad game, can Rooney plaese have just
one good game. Please. He stinks up the entire joint with his performance.The game in all honesty never had the feel of a serious affair,just felt like the united blackburn affair a few years ago where both teams just needed a draw, united to win and blackburn to survive. A sort of mutual agreement to see out the draw, really disappointing attitude from both sides.

This game was just a clear display
of how far this so called philosophy” has taken us. Pass
Pass Pass pass zero killer instinct,
zero desire to actually win the
game and remember that this was
against a Manchester City without
their two most dangerous players
by far AND we were playing at home. Fucking ridiculous. We have a coach who cares more about how many passes we make than about scoring goals and winning the football match. It’s always one issue to another with Van Gaal. If it’s not playing the wrong formation, it’s playing players out of position, if it’s not that, it’s making terrible starting
line-up decisions, if it’s not that, it’s
freezing out great players. I’ve had
enough. We have spent more than
200 million pounds and we don’t
look any better than Sunderland
going forward. Ridiculous.

Played decent but just no killer instinct people are scared to shoot, people are scared to take on their man. The default move with this team is to get the ball and make a backwards or sideways pass. I don’t understand this mentality.
Rooney and Mata were terrible and were basically our two worst players on the day. Our defense however was superb all through the game. Valencia, Rojo, Smalling, Schneiderlin and Jones were all very very very good. They looked assured, they looked composed and they looked very very solid. Of our forward players, the only one that looked half dangerous was once again Anthony Martial but he was constantly being doubled up out wide and couldn’t influence the game as much because Rooney were busy being shocking in the middle.
As far as our subs, I thought Lingard and Fellaini were good once they came on. Would have liked to see Memphis though and I have a feeling that if not for Valencia’s injury, Memphis might have come on. Overall, it was a pretty boring game and considering City were without Aguero AND Silva, it is quite disappointing that we didn’t win this.

Played decent but just no killer instinct people are scared to shoot, people are scared to take on their man. The default move with this team is to get the ball and make a backwards or sideways pass. I don’t understand this mentality. Rooney and Mata were terrible and were basically our two worst players on the day. Our defense however was superb all through the game. Valencia, Rojo, Smalling, Schneiderlin and Jones were all very very very good.
They looked assured, they looked composed and they looked very very solid. Of our forward players, the only one that looked half dangerous was once again Anthony Martial but he was constantly being doubled up out wide and couldn’t influence the game as much because Rooney were busy being shocking in the middle.
As far as our subs, I thought Lingard and Fellaini were good once they came on. Would have liked to see Memphis though and I have a feeling that if not for Valencia’s injury, Memphis might have come on. Overall, it was a pretty boring game and considering City were without Aguero AND Silva, it is quite disappointing that we didn’t win this.

Its a lesson to van gaal if only he will learn. Don’t ever play schweinsteiger and Carrick at the same time against pacey oppositions, they will be exposed extremely. Carrick if fuckin 34yrs old for goodness sake, you don’t expect him to chase Walcott.

What A Country.

Thank Christ the season is over.
Poor for large stretches but got it
together at the perfect time and
ended up sealing fourth. Big summer in the offing. A lot of
changes are needed. First of all, there needs to be a change in the style of play. We actually need to go back to playing attacking football and not drab,cboring rubbish football. We haven’t played anything remotely attractive in 3 full years. It’s a getting a bit much now. Time to return to playing football. There’s enough game changers in the team but this system has essentially stifled
all their ability and productivity and
has put them in boxes which is why the attacking production has been pretty low and sub-standard this year. All they need is the leash taken off them so that they can express themselves. If we keep playing this crap, nothing will change. Even if we sign messi. With the likes of Depay and Di Maria, I am hoping that they will be able to play with more freedom next year. Once the style of play changes, then we can begin to add the players. A right back, two top notch centre backs, two midfielders and a fast, potent striker (as it looks like Falcao and RVP will leave and Rooney is shocking more times than not.) If we do not sign at the very minimum two CMs and 2 CBs, then this summer will have been a failure. I am looking forward to seeing who we bring in as that will essentially determine how next
season wlll go.
As far as this season though. I
expected fourth. We got fourth. We
are back in Europe. I am happy.

Anyways glad the season is over.
Pathetic performance. I have been
one of the biggest defender of LVG
and I still feel he will lead us to glory but if we do the same come next season, I will seriosuly start questioning him.

I wonder what’s worse. David Moyes first season or Liverpool this
season. I don’t remember United
being battered like this honestly. 45
minutes and already five down. And ex United Diouf doing his thing Hope we get our act together real quick though and play some useful football for the last 45 of the season.

I’ve said it several times, if United are to get anywhere near elite level, a lot of revamp need to be done. Far too many liabilities.

considering our other fixtures
coming up, this really still is a must
win. Hope we continue where we
left off.

De Gea, Valencia, Jones, Rojo, Blind,
Carrick, Herrera, Mata, Fellaini, Young,
Rooney.
Subs: Valdes, Rafael, McNair, A
Pereira, Januzaj, Di Maria, Falcao.

What does it take for LVG to realize
that 352 isn’t going to work. And there is no reason to stay 352. He could have fielded Raphael – Smailing – Jones – Shaw And plenty more reasons we should avoid this now but I’m appalled by his stubbornness. I’m still adamant that the reason for our draw against Spurs was not primarily due to fatigue (yes I do agree it played a part), it was more because he failed to respond to Pochetino’s tactical change on the second half. Here he demonstrated another odd decisions, first by sticking to 352 and the second was by replacing Falcao. Im really curious to find out why, as I think his inetention was to counter attack Stoke by bringing Januzaj, but the pace was significantly brought down by Falcao’s departure. Januzaj, what is exactly going on with you? Overhyped?

There is something fishy here, How
can 2 planes dissapear without. trace,, The Movie Lost Is Becaming
real , Maybe there are in a remote
iland ,

Superb first half. GOD AWFUL
second half. Some of the worst
finishing i’ve ever seen in my life.
Two points dropped on a day
when the teams in and around us
are Playing each other and will
most likely drop points. Absolutely
infuriating. Everyone keeps talking
about title challenge. What damn
title challenge when we can finish
chances in the big games? High
time we kept quiet about title
challenge and focused on consolidating our position in the
top 4. But at least One point is better
than none (Judging by that second
half, we easily could have lost this
game.) Great that Shaw and Rafa are back. Time to END 3-5-2 and go back to 4-3-3 or 4-3-1-2 against Stoke.

its a mixture of a few things that
lost us 2 points today
1. poor finishing in first half
2. long balls from defence to no
one in second half, its like we didnt
have a midfield cause they wouldnt
pass to them!
3. managerial naivety. why on
earth would you pick the same
lineup within 43 hours of
eachother! and then bring on 3
defenders in the 2nd half when
trying to get a goal
4. Lloris doing a great impression
of de gea in goal BUT, that referee was biased as fu..k. he didnt do any major decisions against us but every
single 50/50 went their way and it
completely slowed down our
tempo. how does the richest league in the world have such incompetent,
unfit referees making desicions each week that is costing teams
vital points?! its shocking. and they
are the most protected people in
football!

Falcao and RVP…. in the first half, how the Bleep they didn’t put at least one of those chances away I’ll never know. Entire team went to shit in the
second half. Another wasted two
points IMO!

The performance has been a lot
better last 2 games. No surprise it’s
coincided with Carrick being brought into midfield and Falcao
being moved forward. But we really have to start taking these chances. We’re keeping Spurs in the game when we should be out of sight.

...........De Gea........,
Jones...McNair......Evans,
Valencia, ................Young
Carrick......Rooney, ......Mata,
............van Persie....Falcao.

no DiMaria and NO Januzaj on the
bench. Our bench is a bit of a worry. But I guess it’s Pereiras time to show wht he got if he gets the nod.

bamog:
dem no fit do dat to china! Nah trouble be dat! U.S fear china lyk mad!

Absolutely America is. I think most
western nations fear China too China is growing larger both militarily and economically because of a system created by the the US and other western countries. China also isn't a democracy in the way that most western countries would like. It also has nuclear weapons and most industrial powers are economically dependent upon them. And don't forget that china holds a huge amount of US debt and it keeps taking on more and more US debt (amongst other country's debts). America can't simply attack as this would cripple the US economy and cause countless deaths on both sides. China could even launch their nuclear weapons. All the US can do is integrate them into the system more and more and make them become dependent on the US and other nations as much as possible.

Nigerians... SMH!!!!!

I’m also not sure why he switched
Ashley Young over when Young
was eating Lowton for lunch all
afternoon. And you don’t take an in
form Van Persie off and leave THREE defenders on the fucking pitch when you’re in need of a
goal. If Van Persie was off form
then yeah you might have taken
him off but he’s scored 3 in his last
2. You leave him on the pitch when
you need a goal. Mata was completely anonymous again
today. He’s literally stuck in only
one gear. Tired of this. He should
have been the one taken off for Di
Maria. Not Van Persie. Not sure what Van Gaal’s philosophy” is all about to be honest. Negative, boring, monotonous lucky football? So disappointing. We should be
playing much better than this given
all the money we’ve spent.

i still dont fucking understand why
young ( who was tearin apart lowton on the left) was moved to
the right. it just doesnt make sense. that is one of the main reasons why we bloody couldnt score. we stopped creating afterwards . it was a senseless move. di maria hasnt played on the left for 5 fucking years. he plays on the right for real and then moved central last year shocking tactical moves

Young is nowhere near as effective
on the right as he is on the left Ironically if it stayed 11 v 11 I think
we’d have won the game, up to that point we were by far the better side in the second half. Not that Villa got much better after it but the atmosphere turned toxic and I think the abuse Young was getting was clearly affecting him too.

Another disappointing performance
yet again with this useless 3-5-2.
Villa were down to 10 men for 25
mins and yet we continued to play
3 men at the back. After taking the
lead you would expect that we would kick on but instead our THREE DEFENDERS were passing
the ball at the back like we were up
3-1. A game we should have won, we have ended up drawing. These are the most frustrating of games to
lose points in.

The lowest shot attempts at
Manchester United in 11 years of
recording. Only 6% of our play was
in the opposition half. If we were
any worse, we might have been
Derby County. It is impossible to
keep playing like this and not get
punished for it eventually. Yeah it’s
great to win but we can’t keep playing like this. We’ve spent far
too much money and invested too
much in Van Gaal. Honeymoon is over. No more “philosophy”. Pick the right players. Play the right formation from the start. Time to start performing.

Make no mistake we were fucking
SHITE in this game just like against
Arsenal but we’ve won so i’ll take
the 3 points but we HAVE to improve going forward. We cannot
continue to play like this. It’s mind-
numbing. Liverpool for all the shite
they’ve been playing are pretty
good upfront and will punish us if
we play this garbage against them.
I criticized Van Persie because he
was rightfully awful for most of the
season but boy am I thankful for
for his performance tonight. By far
his best performance since his first
season for us. I would love more than anything for him to be rounding into form. About fucking
time Robin. Welcome back. Ashley Young, Herrera and De Gea were the only other people who weren’t complete shit. That’s where the pleasantries end. EVERYONE ELSE was terrible. Especially Fellaini. Let me repeat this again. Fellaini is no better than a substitute for this club. He’s only in this side because we literally have no one else to put there. In January or the summer we have to dip into our pockets and find a strong midfielder befitting of Manchester United. Evans was
complete garbage but i’ll chalk that
up to lack of first team action, Rojo
was terrible for most of it too.
We also need to get our full backs
fit again. Tired of seeing back passes. I need full backs willing to
attack. Rafael and Shaw cannot
return soon enough. The 3-5-2
formation was also fucking awful.
Time to ditch this useless formation forever. Awful performance but we’ve got 3 points. The philosophy” LVG keeps banging on about is a massive dose of luck. There’s nothing different in terms of our actual style of play from last season. I really thought we were going to get
better performance wise but we
have not.

De Gea – 7
McNair – 4
Smalling – 5
Rojo – 4
Valencia – 4
Carrick – 5
Fellaini – 4
Young – 6
Mata – 4
Rooney – 4
van Persie – 7
Subs:
Evans – 4
Herrera – 5
Fletcher – 5
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1 = Diabolical
2 = Awful
3 = Very Poor
4 = Poor
5 = Average
6 = Good
7 = Very good
8 = Great
9 = Superb
10 = World Class

WE’VE STARTED SITTING BACK
AGAIN FOR Bleep’S SAKE.
Switch back to a 4 man defense
and KILL THIS FUCKING GAME OFF.

If we want to stand any chance of
winning this game what we need
to do is right in front of us. Get back to 4 men in defense, Make herrera a midfielder and move Mata up the pitch, Get Wilson/Falcao on and try and fucking attack for once.