₦airaland Forum

achinaboy:
There is God, but at last, if there is no God,we have nothing to loose, believing in him made a world a better place, the only people that will surelly regret it are those idiotic extremist who thought that they are fighting for God

davien:
What i lose by believing "god?"
IF YOU REFER TO YOUR "god" THEN;

1.Give 10% my income

2.Give in to authority...through "faith men" and be easily conned...

3.Demote women...as "inferior beings"

4.When you base reality on the imaginary....you become more manipulative and have to believe anything absurd to back up the belief i.e Creationism...

5.Live by racist standards i.e Demoting people on sexual preference,ethnicity etc...

6.Have to teach children to not be inquisitive and lie to them...

7.Have to force a view against abortion rights and gay rights based on baseless toilet paper...

8.Have to threaten people with "hell" and "faith" because the myth does not go by its own merits and have to be believed by "faith" ....

9.Have to teach children imaginary do's and don'ts about masturbati0n....and other subjects best left to personal wishes...

10.Stand to lose sanity by believing two members of a species can re-populate that species without losing vigour and without genetic defects and believe in a world wide flood...

LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS OF REASONS...

Elparaiso:
Who said cane cannot solve everything...
When I'm through flogging him...



He would rape our maid...

Rainess:
I will love him or her just the same! And talk about the importance of using contraception. And tell him or her I still expect to have grandchildren one day!

eyeview:
This tribe is synonymous with traditional evil worships, ritual,occultism,idol worships,fetish practices,demonic strongholds, diabolic beliefs and actions,ritual dens,etc.
Am not a bit surprised. When will they start fearing God.
Imagine innocently travelling thru this town as an albino,they will pursue you till they kill you to appease a certain 'river demon'.

An2elect2:
huh? so what next?

johnydon22:
[b]You are not serious right? So you are meaning to tell us you have no independent morals except what your religion gives you?

Tell me, do you need to consult the bible, quran or any other religious book before you know murder is wrong?

If you don't then how come you can't differentiate between sociatal morality and religious morality.
Secular states and country have no business with religious morals when enacting laws, thats why you see legalization of homosexuality even when your religion is against it, Nobody cares what religion thinks.

Morality is not Islamic neither is it christian or hindu. Morality is human, it belongs to no ism. and it is not dependent on any creed, book or supernatural for foundation because morality itself is a foundation.

Secular definition of Morality is: Actions that decreases human suffering and/or betters societal well being, freedom, equality and justice. . .

Am sure judging from this you can simply discern how moral actions are determined and not what religion says.[/b]

An2elect2:
I read the rejoinders and i agree with the op, atheists are very "wise" indeed

Has anybody noticed they are the most religious lately?

With the way they talk about God, they might not be far from the Kingdom of God! hahahahahhahahahahahha

MzNelly:
I dunno.

KingEbukasBlog:
1 Peter 5:6

6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:

James 4:10

10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.

What must you do before the action takes place "Humble yourself "

Psalm 18:25

25 With the merciful thou wilt shew thyself merciful; with an upright man thou wilt shew thyself upright;

KingEbukasBlog:
Hmmm ... davien . I see you

Hebrews 11:1

11 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the b1. evidence of things not seen.

faith

a complete b2. trust or confidence in someone or something

you are smart enough to relate b1 and b2

KingEbukasBlog:
1.You have not acknowledged God

2.John 14:6

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3. The Holy Spirit gives you that assurance of salvation . It cant be explained ; its ineffable

KingEbukasBlog:
@ davien ... just live a good life and believe in God . God is smart enough to know if you are qualified or not

KingEbukasBlog:
Ephesians 2:8

KingEbukasBlog:
Oh davien ... understand who Christians call God and why we hold fast to the belief in Him . You just gave a wrong perception @ bold . *sigh* read my little explanation in my response to thehomer 's question "did God create humans with hands" . It should help

KingEbukasBlog:
Lolz... I hope you've seen why I called you blind ... I wanted the whole thing to boil down to "I dont know"

KingEbukasBlog:
We are talking of the beginning of life here . Look farther than the big bang ... what do you see ? Use your imagination . Forget science !

KingEbukasBlog:
You dont even get it , do you?

@ bold - one of the explanations of the existence of God

KingEbukasBlog:
2.There wouldn't be belief or non-belief in the supernatural then

KingEbukasBlog:
Explain the initial conditions of the big bang then

KingEbukasBlog:
This guy doesn't even get what I'm trying to do him . You are blind walahi

But seriously you cant compare in any way or form your academic credentials to mine ... so lets focus on the argument

KingEbukasBlog:
something came out from nothing then

KingEbukasBlog:
Ok am sorry :

Show me how through evolution (development through simple forms) :

It became: "only a template that can be used for data compression ...and this is in large part only possible due to the data(the data the fellow i was responding to) being in a compressible form like binary..."

and how it

"can be converted into "data" by plotting a sequence that is repetitive and predictable "

Have I explained myself ?

KingEbukasBlog:
Typical davien , This does not show how it arose naturally . It just described one of its characteristics . Am still waiting to be wowed !

KingEbukasBlog:
lol ... please davien show me how that ability to store that size of data "arose naturally "

davien:
numbnuts,DNA doesn't store 700 Terabytes...it's only a template that can be used for data compression ...and this is in large part only possible due to the data(the data the fellow i was responding to) being in a compressible form like binary...

And in truth any form of matter can be converted into "data" by plotting a sequence that is repetitive and predictable ,how do you think computers work?....that doesn't make rocks and mud "designed"

haul:
Unfortunately devin, I won't be able to keep on with this banter, no point going back and forth with no confluence man.

haul:
Bro I insist on it for myself cause it has really helped me to preach more love than hate.

Well can anyone use it to believe anything? Yes so far the person deem it fit, moreso,if the person is moral enthusiast then he may find it worthy.

I'm not here to convince someone to fall inline with it,this is just my own belief and soley responsible for my actions.

haul:
Its no guilt card bro, you mention my beliefs are not well grounded? They are not well grounded cause you never open a clear mind to it, look farther than your nose with your eye there lies your mouth.

Yeah,I belief there is a creator cause I've seen things beyond explanation of man, things human hasn't go beyond, things beyond human knowledge,this you know but you won't agree and I'm not here to make you agree either cause I respect your beliefs so should do mine.