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leadzeal:
You suggested whether I was a part of a group, and I stated I was not. I went further to clarify why I don't consider myself a part. In my second response, I try to vindicate myself of been judgement by explaining further that it is an issue prevalent with every believe group.

I will rephrase your question better so we will not be too hasty to make ourselves judge. Are two humans alike? The answer is No. From DNA configuration to blood group or facial representation. At least none is found yet.

You are so quick to classify whether a thing is subjective or objective. Where you priveledged to the evidence or you were thought it was a fact back in school. I don't want go down that road now but know this, an objective observation was once subjective. I can carefully state here that "anger of the gods" was an objective term in premodial times.

You just misconstrue my usage of hate in its context. Your connotation to my idealogy is really flawed here. And I am very disappointed to be honest. Hate when channeled to a bad habit so as to stop that habit is encouraged but when use for murderous intent then it is a no no. Try to understand my usage in the context, i am not perfect, but i believe you should understand the nature of hate used here.
Rather doubts should be encouraged so we can avoid digesting everything the society throws at us and go to our respective drawing board or laboratory to test the validity and efficacy of the theory or claim.

Hate is inevitable as a normal social human being....we hate things to give ourselves a justification for our actions,to give ourselves limits and to distinct what we consider to be good or bad...

I believe I should use more of my apostrophes for words I believe my reader would comprehend its meaning both in context and out of context. I could has well use a mosque here, not need for redifining.

Below is a definition to better help me understand my point.

I define a church used in this context as a place where people with similar believe meet to strengthen their bonds.

FOLYKAZE:
Geography is a field of science.

Gods and spirit is a term use in spirituality and not science but they tend to explain the samething.

Sango in Yoruba is the samething as Thunder. Ogun is Iron. The allegory of Ogun moulding bone is expressed in science which says calcium produces bone. These are few correlation i know.

Rain makers here are not scientist and there practise are not documented.

Where did I say charm is above science?

FOLYKAZE:
Supernatural is a manifestation or event attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature.

FOLYKAZE:
This is not completely ignorance.

For example, rain falling was attributed to gods or some spirit been behind it. But today we alk know that this spirit and gods are some forces.

And today, have some people that can stop rain or make rain. They acquire this skill from somewhere. They know what they are doing but do not have scientific explanation for it.

When science come into an event, gods and spirit are repkaced with force and energy. So to ne, this isnt about ignorance but bringing one stuff to the age of science

leadzeal:
This may be long..

Why I think a thin line exist with both group

I choose not to be tagged with any group or entity be it atheist, christian, agnostic. From my experience, I notice my nature of believe changes as I come of age. The christians will call it "working out my salvation", in my philosophical pursuit i will call it "walking in descartes footsteps" by making my mind as transparent as possible and free from all prejudice . I can validate that I am solipsist just cos I tend to stand out of the other group but this assumption is quickly countered because i don't believe two solipsist are alike. So why but them in the same group.
I want to state here that all other group are not free from the nihilistic tendency.

You said "pathogens" and went further to state that they were the cause of the diseases.
See my friend, pathogen is a name tag, back then their "pathogens" were known as "anger of the gods". They resorted to this because they don't have the medical advancement we have now to resolve the issue.

Humans change with time and no human is alike or think alike. Being part of group has put in hate in me and ofcourse prejudice in time past.

I won't be surprise if we have a church for agnostic or atheist in the future. Why this if i may ask?
Let our logic justify our believe and we shall be happy.

FOLYKAZE:
Pls bear with me bro. I cant type fast and prone to make alot of mistakes using this touchpad. Pks bear with me.

Supernatural is a manifestation or event attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature.

It is supernatural when there is no explanation and mostly attributed to some forces or energy. At the point when there is exolanation, it cease been supernatural

leadzeal:
This is the third usage of solipsist I have come across since my existence and the previous usage I've never been refered to my person.

No I'm not.. I see a solipsist as one likely to, with time have a nihilistic tendency.

Now to your question. Note that I am not trying to down play it but we all know the answer as a lot to with the popular phrase of "the gods must be angry" with the inflicted person or tribe or nation.
It is the usual tendency for man to elevate what he does not understand to the "godhood" sphere.

FOLYKAZE:
Miracle is simply mirage.

Charm is a pratical spiritual, scientifical and esoteric device.

Magic is an entertaining art while charm is a Super natural phenomenon.

leadzeal:
I state assertively here that atom never existed before the invention of microscope. In other, if a postulation can not be proved then it is mere speculation. It's because we can now see them under the microscope that our braggadocio apron is on the fly.

So my friend, i wish there was time travel vehicle which we both can use to go back in time and convince them there's atom without a microscope. We may likely be stoned to death.

As the agnostic will say, there was never an atom before the invention of microscope. This assertion is as valid as it gets.

UyiIredia:
It's not intellectually honest if the only explanation you are 'finding out' is one that excludes God and is materialistic.

Joshthefirst:
don't be foolish davien.


note the bolded. contrast is secondary in design recognition. you don't need to contrast an unmade bed with a made one before,ypu realize the made one is in order. Stop using useless 'secondaries' to justify your denial of truth.

madlatunji:

freecocoa:
How is same sex marriage the same with throwing of christians in jail? Why should I let you know what I practice, just how is that any business of yours?

Who died and gave the you right to determine what's abomination?

Oselumhe:
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Do you know what mizjanet for you to understand the bible You need to surrender your life to Jesus then ask God to help you.....The devil is really deceiving your lies like big bang theory and you weren't there when big bang occur but you hold on to it but you refuse to have faith in God word because you can't see God...May God open you eyes

frosbel:
So you would do what, opt to go to hell and join them in this eternal suffering instead ?

davidylan:
if you've got a better idea then please regale us... we are all ears.

davidylan:
and what experiment have you listed in support of the scientific alternative?

As usual, when all else fails - resort to mockery, false laughing with emojis, youtube videos, fringe website links, faux outrage... run away.

KingEbukasBlog:
I noticed you didn't refute this post ... you just accused me of equivocation . Classic davien !

davidylan:
So your own logic instead is that somehow a spark of lightening created protein which then created DNA, which then seeded life? I need gargantuan amounts of faith to believe both sets of illogical arguments... no difference.

davidylan:
ok so on what basis are you crying about id?

KingEbukasBlog:
The body is made up of materials and minerals found on the surface of the ground . This is 2015 bro , no explanation for ignorance

davidylan:
when all else fails... post a video by some unknown person. I can see the science behind this video for sure... published in nature.

davidylan:
How does evolution explain how the species that allegedly evolved appear in the first place?

davidylan:
Anichiebo, let me explain your own "science is researching" argument.

My brother and I are arguing about the sum of 2 and 3. I say the answer is 5, my brother says it cannot be 5. I ask him how he knows it is not 5, he says he has no idea but is sure it can never be 5, just because... i ask him for evidence, he says mathematicians are still trying to solve the problem but i should just believe that 2+3 is not 5. Now anytime i say that 2+3 = 5 because there is no rational basis for it to be anything else, he just chants "god of the gaps"...

Again let me repeat... your preconceived, but completely factless insistence that only science can explain the origin of the species is behind the constant use of the "god of the gaps" mockery. I asked you to do the math (which is still a form of science by the way)... what is the statistical probability that universal laws of physics and biology sparked life on earth and on no other part of the planet? You have a pen, paper and calculator... start working.

davidylan:
You dont seem to be thinking... all the articles above are strictly on the science of evolution, which as you know, is different from the topic on hand which is - does science provide a valid hypothesis as to the ORIGIN of species?

davidylan:
you've been using the same "science is researching" as an appeal to authority for the last 2 pages so it is quite rich for you to accuse me of doing what exactly amounts to the whole pillar of your argument against ID.

I have not said nothing credible exists outside of those... i certainly publish in other journals but these are the creme de la creme of biochemical research. Surely you are aware that any science that announces a breakthrough in how we understand the origin of human species would be big enough to get into one of the three right? Its just common sense and an idea of how scientific publishing has worked for years.

davidylan:
You're mixing two things - either because you really are that dense or you're just resorting to the usual mockery to escape the yawning deficit in the science you tout.

ID is not the same as the bible... there are many proponents of ID who are not christians and do not subscribe to the biblical notion of God. I think you devolve into the Adam strawman to detract from your difficulty in discussing the science.

I notice you avoid posts that question the science and prefer to traffic in those where you can quickly change the subject into another bible bashing exercise.

KingEbukasBlog:
So much for the poor comprehension of creation story and life coming from inorganic matter

Isnt it funny that the dead body turns to mere dust after some time .

davidylan:
I was very cautious to list 3 of the most prestigious biological journals - nature, science and cell. Any serious biological advance of the last 30 years has come from anyone of them... of course you can find any fringe blog that will publish anything for a fee.